I think you probably have some idea of this already, but yeah I was in fact doing this to make it usable with Hyperbola, but I am curious which glibc would be required to make it work wherever...

Quick note though what about the other part I mentioned, the arkenfox part? its basically a way of disabling a lot of firefox bs that is enabled by default.

Also, I wondered if glibc required is too new, is there a way to fix that as well?

I could post a screenshot, but I would have to reboot to get a good idea of how much is actually consumed.  then go into a terminal and type in free -m

I am using 64 bit, so no worries there.

https://codeberg.org/jwmkit

I recommend checking the consumption for yourself though, RAM is used more on machines with more RAM.

So what I mean I guess is, I have 16GB RAM on this laptop. Well on my comp with 8GB it uses less of the RAM.

Andyprough can correct me if he wants, but I think he said it used like somewhere from 60-70 megabytes to use it, even with jwmkit.

Or maybe jwmkit said that? anywho, it uses less the dwm according to Andyprough for sure. I recall he said that on a forum.

On boot though, it uses less than 70mb for me though for my 16GB T430 with coreboot + me cleaner.

I can reboot to check if you are interested. I will do so now...

Interesting... It seems on one of my laptops its like 110mb total usage including jwm being used. That one has Hyperbola though, 16gb or not. I will try my devuan one and see what that shows.

Here is a picture of it, https://upload.disroot.org/r/KhKbZ0Vd#3 … I4v3+DbPs=

just download it to see it.

Btw, I looked and Hyperbola uses 89mb without any wm/DE.

so that means... 21mb for jwm? insane... it has 16gb of ram so I didn't expect this lol.

I will check devuan now.

Fascinating... it uses 141mb on Devuan ceres...
https://upload.disroot.org/r/t6xNspMs#U … 2o+y6X8Ic=

Without a wm it uses close to that number.  Anywho, those links seem to indicate to me, that JWM is ultra lightweight. Anywho, that's all folks!

Except I should mention I am using 5.15.xx linux-libre kernel on the devuan laptop and 5.10.xx on the hyperbola one.

  just a heads up!

I am going to have to disagree, chromium, iridium, firefox regular, firefox esr, all are shitty browsers. 

Librewolf, ungoogled-chromium are much better than their counterparts. 

Just curious, but were you trolling or serious?

I can't figure it out at the moment.

EDIT: I see what you mean about ungoogled-chromium in later posts, still think that librewolf is way better than the rest.

That is ironic, but I wonder which has the more secure version...

No offense, but OpenBSD devs probably are more security conscious...

You have perked my curiosity, what do you need opencl for and/or the proprietary blob for? I am curious.

If you don't want or feel like telling me though, feel free to tell me.

It just sounds odd to me, given that those blobs are like mystery software.

Minimalism isn't always pretentious, it depends on what you need and what you want from software whether it be a DE, WM, or what an OS is in general.

To be honest, if Devuan is more then a systemd protest distro, I guess I would've thought it would be fighting more the redhat nonsense...

Not trying to be critical, just sayin, systemd is not the only problem plaguing the linux atmosphere.

Aka, not just systemd, but also, at bare minimum, pulseaudio, networkmanager, wayland as well as systemd. The reason I don't use it as my main OS, is because of that and dbus as well as openssl and java. So meh... to each their own.

I should mention though, a dev I know looked at the dbus code even found in powerkit the application used with draco desktop, fingerprints your hardware...

I have no idea why that is even needed... or what they do with it. Aye...

Also, I don't care about DE's. WMs for the win man!

I do still have a Devuan VM in case I need it though. I noticed that chimaera has security, updates and regular repos.  I am guessing that means Devuan's newest version is coming out before the end of the year.  Or sooner, not sure which.

But yeah, I would be careful about trusting Debian again till they stop feeding on Redhat's ideas so much.

I don't know, as long as trolls don't get cruel and evil, I enjoy feeding them sometimes...

If they like to be nonsensical or spamlike, I enjoy watching and laughing.

Hevidevi, if it doesn't work, you can PM me, also, if you want FDE with or without /boot encrypted, ask me that in a PM.

Peace!

Yeah, you can bypass that actually, set SigLevel to never.

Its no big deal.

Perhaps, but dbus will be removed from Hyperbola, at some point, thus, I see no purpose in such things.

As for computing, I don't think its completely doomed yet, unless you want newer technology, that is x86 based or arm64 based.

Actually, I will just say, anything with a backdoor like intel me or in general is a problem.  Especially if it connects to the internet with that backdoor.  If the backdoor is non-remote, meaning it doesn't do anything over the network, its not a huge issue as far as I am concerned.

That being said, MNT Reform gives me some hope.  I await the pocket version, but yeah, 80% of hardware at least is crap due to backdoors that operate remotely and cannot be removed...

I had to add that part cause otherwise its more like 95% lol.

If only, mpv was the solution for all videos online... ;P

Alas, I like old cartoons, and some sites work with iceweasel-uxp, and not mpv. 

Epiphany might actually work like iceweasel-uxp in this sense.

Either way though, we will just have to see...

It turns out though, there are some dbus issues with epiphany, but one of the devs of Hyperbola thinks it may be fixable aka, it could work without it if he gives it enough time to work on.

We'll see eh?

Maybe this is the palemoon alternative I need...

Huh, its interesting you mention epiphany, because I tried it in devuan and sound works, also, I tried to build it in Hyperbola also, fascinating thing is...

It actually didn't build, but not because of any weird libraries, except for libportal, libdazzle and libhandy not being in the system as well as old libraries...

Long story short, I am not positive, but it may work as a replacement.  I gotta check when they are updated though.