I find it mega strange, that if JWM, is lighter than DWM, on cpu usage, ram usage and battery usage, that more people use DWM.

I say this more because,  JWM is much, easier to use and can be used in a similar way, to both DWM and i3-wm, yet lighter on resources in general.

I wonder why this is.

I must be missing something, otherwise this wouldn't be an enigma to me.

Well... either way, I appreciate your recent updates.

Curious though how efficient the newest stable will be though.

Aww, how adorable...

I bet they are very friendly little birds.

I also have a feeling you probably pick them up every now and then.

"As I said around a year ago (?), there is little difference between that project's attitude with regards to trademarks and mozilla's, except mozilla have better people skills.

As I also said around the same time - all browsers are shit, along with the WWW itself.  My philosophy is simple: I pick the best of a bad lot, then configure it to my needs.  what I avoid doing is going "window shopping" for browser forks, where there are all kinds of claims and boasts and it really amounts to little more than customisations you could do yourself and a fancy logo and different name...

At the moment, though chromium is more secure, telemetry/harvesting of data and privacy is a bigger issue there, so I use firefox - even though I dislike many things they have done recently."

I found a new method for web browser stuff for Hyperbola, its called badwolf + hblock!

https://github.com/hectorm/hblock

I modified /etc/hosts and use it to block as many ads as possible...

I disagree on the security of chromium, due to the many leaks, but you are free to believe what you wish...

I should add, you can modify hblock to add or remove filterlists as long as they are in raw format.

Hope this helps someone who wants to escape the bs of modern web browsers.

I am not sure, haven't used it yet, but wondered when the sndioctl change will be added to jwmkit, to not require aucatctl + stable release...

I think you did half of that, but the second part isn't done yet right?

Either way, I don't blame you for being occupied, its the holidays...

Aka, you haven't added those changes to a stable release yet...

hmm...

huh...

I may just need to talk to one of my hyperbola buddies, he seems to know how to do stuff like this, I reckon I will have to wait for him.

Perhaps this is too complicated for me on my own... oh well...

I was going to build with ./mach package after build succeeded, but oh well.

Edit: I guess I should have had the title say from Devuan. That was more what I meant...

"Look in the debian directory inside the firefox-esr source, the browser.mozconfig.in file is the one you want."

I had thought that as well, but it still seems to not pass on my changes, which is very weird imo.

That is good, but tell me something, how the hell do I get the ./mach build to use the mozconfig changes I made?

It keeps doing the same old crap, no matter what I do.

It effectively acts like I changed nothing! Its kind of infuriating...

Very much so...

I mean, all I want is to do things a specific way, and to compile with less than 4 cores, and the damn thing refuses to accept my config for building.

This is my mozconfig in, browser/config/mozconfig

It feels almost like the devuan/debian build is meant to sabotage modifications... unless I am mistaken...

but yeah, its annoying.

I think you probably have some idea of this already, but yeah I was in fact doing this to make it usable with Hyperbola, but I am curious which glibc would be required to make it work wherever...

Quick note though what about the other part I mentioned, the arkenfox part? its basically a way of disabling a lot of firefox bs that is enabled by default.

Also, I wondered if glibc required is too new, is there a way to fix that as well?

I could post a screenshot, but I would have to reboot to get a good idea of how much is actually consumed.  then go into a terminal and type in free -m

I am using 64 bit, so no worries there.

https://codeberg.org/jwmkit

I recommend checking the consumption for yourself though, RAM is used more on machines with more RAM.

So what I mean I guess is, I have 16GB RAM on this laptop. Well on my comp with 8GB it uses less of the RAM.

Andyprough can correct me if he wants, but I think he said it used like somewhere from 60-70 megabytes to use it, even with jwmkit.

Or maybe jwmkit said that? anywho, it uses less the dwm according to Andyprough for sure. I recall he said that on a forum.

On boot though, it uses less than 70mb for me though for my 16GB T430 with coreboot + me cleaner.

I can reboot to check if you are interested. I will do so now...

Interesting... It seems on one of my laptops its like 110mb total usage including jwm being used. That one has Hyperbola though, 16gb or not. I will try my devuan one and see what that shows.

Here is a picture of it, https://upload.disroot.org/r/KhKbZ0Vd#3 … I4v3+DbPs=

just download it to see it.

Btw, I looked and Hyperbola uses 89mb without any wm/DE.

so that means... 21mb for jwm? insane... it has 16gb of ram so I didn't expect this lol.

I will check devuan now.

Fascinating... it uses 141mb on Devuan ceres...
https://upload.disroot.org/r/t6xNspMs#U … 2o+y6X8Ic=

Without a wm it uses close to that number.  Anywho, those links seem to indicate to me, that JWM is ultra lightweight. Anywho, that's all folks!

Except I should mention I am using 5.15.xx linux-libre kernel on the devuan laptop and 5.10.xx on the hyperbola one.

  just a heads up!

I am going to have to disagree, chromium, iridium, firefox regular, firefox esr, all are shitty browsers. 

Librewolf, ungoogled-chromium are much better than their counterparts. 

Just curious, but were you trolling or serious?

I can't figure it out at the moment.

EDIT: I see what you mean about ungoogled-chromium in later posts, still think that librewolf is way better than the rest.

That is ironic, but I wonder which has the more secure version...

No offense, but OpenBSD devs probably are more security conscious...

You have perked my curiosity, what do you need opencl for and/or the proprietary blob for? I am curious.

If you don't want or feel like telling me though, feel free to tell me.

It just sounds odd to me, given that those blobs are like mystery software.