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@alexkemp . . . Good point! I'll leave the discussion open a while longer before making the change. Thanks for the feedback!
OK folks . . . will this wording change work for you??
Adult behavior based on a foundation of mutual respect is expected from visitors to this forum regardless of age.
@zapper . . . Love your new signature! Will consider the clarification suggested . . .
I have sent a test message from an email account that is not registered at dng[at]lists.dyne.org.
That was roughly 30' ago and it has not yet appeared on the list of 'newest messages'.
It landed in moderation and I deleted it as you instructed to ignore it. At least it did arrive so something else is broken @hendrik's setup . . .
I monitor that list and your emails are not being held in moderation. You used to be able to post and absolutely nothing has been changed on dyne's end. Seems I remember you recently had a failure of some sort in your networking set up. My guess is that the problem is there . . .
It is almost certain that it cannot be avoided. Extensive discussion on the dng mail list.
@phaoost . . . If you want to run ceres aka sid . . . you get to keep all the pieces. ![]()
Well said zapper! This document has been around for a very long time. I self-hosted this forum for about 2 years before it replaced the original Discourse which was not really suited for Devuan users. According to the above posts, 2016-12-03 17:43:38 was the last time it was edited but then I can't remember if I made any minor 'silent' edits.
How to mark this as unsolved ?
Done!
WOW! Even I am not that cynical because I have know too many folks trying to do the right thing the right way . . .
All I know is that whatever I'm eating/doing keeps my system happy . . .
Maybe Devuan should take up the mantle and publish more info on these things online.
Or maybe that is something that quickfur might want to explore and curate?
@andyp67 . . . you are ballooning the forum logs with personal ramblings that have no place in a technical forum. Please find a more appropriate venue to do that . . .
Good grief! A full quote post in response to clear instructions NOT TO FULL QUOTE POST. What am I missing here?
@steve_v . . . Thank you for trying to bring order and focus to the chaos . . .
You can install LibreOffice Writer without installing all of LibreOffice. Cuts down on the bloat . . .
/me notes how annoying it is to have to keep blocking gifs
one question. which init has the xfce iso live version?
Same as the installer isos sysvinit.
and is there also a kde iso live version?
No. But you can download and add KDE after installation.
Hahaha! Thanks for the stats!! Just shows how accurate our perceptions are . . . Carry on with making us smile!
What's with all the wife jokes . . . ? How about some husband jokes for balance?
I do not think libsystemd0 is harmful
Yes, it is just an annoyance but removing it would be wasted effort for no benefit. That's why it may still present in Devuan.
but I seem to be unable to have it, as holding it when installed would not allow installing these packages (well, dummy-elogind allowed some of them, but not all).
Unless something has changed, there is no need to have libsystemd0 present in Devuan.
There are extensive discussions on the DNG mail list. The takeaway (if I understand it correctly) is that unless we have a huge influx of devs to fork the necessary packages, usrmerge will be unavoidable. Read and draw your own conclusions.
This this forum post titled Why are systemd files present in Devuan? will help you understand that those files that are bothering you are harmless and necessary. Note that I posted that statement but did not write it. Take care . . .