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Been wondering about this for a long time... tried searching a bit ago, but failed...
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zephyr wrote:Imagine it is in other apps, these two I'm aware of and don't use.
cheers
zephyr
It's been around the block for a while....
https://i.ibb.co/BrWJCgT/image.png
And in 2009 it was GNOME Zeitgeist. 13 years old at minimum, and still active.
That image says it all.
Gnome, KDE and Ubuntu use it, which is an automatic bad sign, given its other problems.
Always examine anything that the eye candy Desktop Environments or Window Managers if they require dbus, polkit, systemd, networkmanager, pulseaudio, pipewire, or zeitgiest...
The dbus part is probably on the lower end of that list as far as most are concerned, but the others, especially systemd and zeitgeist, are just, no.
Once I realized what Zeitgeist was, I tried to delete it as much as possible.
Essentially, its an open source spyware.
As far as I know...
Notice btw, one of the words rhymes with heist.
This is very appropriate on many levels.
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andyprough wrote:Hey zap, check out my setup today - Hyperbola (testing) with jwm, jwm kit, and I got the latest abrowser from Trisquel running.
I'll look for your email - I think they've been getting sent to the spam folder for some reason. I'll email you my phone number so you can text me.
https://trisquel.info/files/HyperbolaJwmKit5.jpg
Unbelievable, the consumption of the machine with JWM is very low, how can you achieve all that? There is no clear guide showing how to configure and customize the system with the jwm window manager.
My only guess is they use primarily C programming.
I had thought it was made in lisp, but not sure now.
Also, I think the dev has more than enough brain cells to know that bloatware is common enough already.
We don't need more. ![]()
To be fair, I consider him a genius more than all the other wm or de creators.
CDE I might consider as a desktop environment in future or continuing using JWM instead as I do already.
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zapper wrote:the software using it, intentionally has more support for pipewire
But isn't it the other way around? PipeWire provides the API needed to route sound correctly but ALSA has no such functionality (AFAIK).
Here's a(n old) list of what ALSA can't do:
https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Softwa … SA/Issues/
Trigger warning: Lennart wrote it
I actually realized something... I dislike his software, yes. But I don't hate him, redhat however, is the crux of the issue and even then I always hate them.
Sometimes emotions in me burst out, but in general, if there is ever a reason to hate out of any of these people, its people like the redhat leaders who are willing to destroy everything around them by bloating software nonstop for profit, etc...
This all being said, feel nothing but annoyance towards them right now. My simple point is this is part of a much larger problem which has not been fixed yet.
Its not just poettering, this goes well beyond him.
Microsoft, Google, Redhat, corporations as evil as them, are run by the core problem, which is prideful people who only feed good if they are persuing their greed and successfully annoying and in some cases harming people in general.
So yeah, don't care in either direction much about Poettering. Yes he is an ass, but nothing compared to the people above him.
He didn't get this freedom to abuse his power without the people above him.
Btw, there is a better solution to the whole alsa situation the pulseaudio or pipewire.
Its called sndio.
btw, jwmkit has some features to fix this issue. Works nicely, although you still need alsa-utils installed even if its not online while sndio is and alsa-sndio.
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Sndio can do per application stream which alsa cannot ever do on its own last I checked.
Although maybe this has changed or isn't true?
But yeah, never knew how to do it nor do I currently.
You are free to port Unity to Devuan and offer it to the community.
Question, seriously though...
Doesn't unity look similar to Gnome 3?
If it is that one, that will be a tough task.
Anywho, just wondered
MiyoLinux wrote:changing the terminal to xterm
Why not use x-terminal-emulator instead? That way it will use whatever emulator is set as the default alternative. Some people don't like xterm and it won't even be installed in some systems.
Back on topic: got bored of fighting with finit so switched to runit-init instead:
https://i.postimg.cc/6TFwW6Mh/20230126-15h48m17s-grim.png
Made a polkid-dummy package 'cos I don't need that shit on my box.
Better idea, instead of xterm, most people should use sakura.
right clicking while sakura is open, gives you the only other options people really use:
Options gives you quite a few, but go to Options and then more you can get the scrollbar back . ![]()
And before options, after just right clicking, copy, paste and exit are already there as well as full screen.
Ignore if you wish, but of all the lightweight terminal emulators, sakura is very much what i would consider, the jwm of terminal emulators.
Very light, but has most of the functionality I think is needed, without sucking a huge crapton of resources for no reason.
Please stop this nonsense, it has totally derailed this topic.
/me is getting an itchy delete finger . . .
Yesh, sorry... will stop.
I don't remember when this nonsense even started or who started it.
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If I were Google, I'd have a stinkin' crook in my back from leaning to the left so much...
LOLOLOLOLOL!!!
Just in case that wall above my last comment is too big for some people to read,
Say I am 1000 on the liberal scale, say someone else is 950,
Naturally, if someone moves to the right I am more likely to think they are going too far to the right?
However, if someone is an alt right winger, as 1000, then even someone moving 2 points in the other direction, will be seen as being too liberal.
It has to do with the mentality of "DO EVERYTHING WE SAY NO MATT#ER WHAT!" and "CHANGE A BIT AND YOU WILL BE SEEN AS LIBERAL"
Mindless nonsense...
For the supporters of alt right wingers, disney does the weakest most tiniest action to rebuke the "don't say gay bill"
Then weirdos from everywhere, denounce disney as being very woke or whatever the hell that means...
Isn't that enough of a sign how far they have gone to the right?
Disney has always been mega right wing, just look at their racism and other issues.
The real reason Google does this, is to protect themselves, that is all.
They would prefer to side with the right wingers, but they have much more to think about than that.
Like making money?
-_-
All these data centers would be better served being torn down from the big 3 and used for actual goodwill and justice for all.
Too simple though, as of now.
Meh, what can you do.
@MiyoLinux
Like I said though, if someone is towards 100 on one side of the scale, in the case of right wingers lately, 95 mostly and some other right winger say its Google, is more like 85, because they resist certain stuff out of sanity to keep them safe, not because they actually care about anything but money...
The people with the 95 score will accuse the people of 85 of being too liberal.
Conversely, the same can happen on the left wing scale.
I am aware that my views would look like communism to most of the nutjob right wingers in this country, given that I don't have a fondness for copyright, trademarks and patents and if they were to continue, they would need be 10 years in every conceivable way before going to public domain, no extensions allowed, etc... not to mention, I would want all these greedy companies that get subsidization to lose it without any compensation whatsoever, including fossil fuels and tobacco, alcohol products and ban surveilence by corporations and ban the pat-riot act and similar bs laws from existence.
Force the web to be debloated back to a 1.0, or 2.0 state, back javascript and java and other likewise bloated technologies from being used for anything.
Would also want corporations to be taxed 100 times more than they are now, given they already dodge taxes anyhow.
I could go on and on, but my point being,
they would see me as a 2000 point score liberal.
Reality is, there are some europeans who have these views and they looked at as being the bernie sanders of Europe in the sense of how the country views their thoughts.
That's what I have gathered from all the youtube comments I have seen in the past on politics videos and getting into open source or as some call it libre software, etc...
PS, I begin to wonder if Google's idea of open source isn't so much that its Proprietary open source software, as much as:
Sneaky Open Source Software
To be honest, they probably don't need to make anything proprietary at this point in their services as long as the code is mega hard to change like redhat.
Btw, I mentioned that redhat is a spelling for hatred for a reason.
Its like a self-fulfilling prophecy.
When they choose that name, it was almost like they ironically predicted their own future!
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Well unfortunately your issue got "closed as not planned" and locked zapper. Not sure how I will earn my million dollars using Windows 3.0 now, I was really counting on that.
Guess I will have to go to Plan B - hacking into Fort Knox using my Commodore 64.
Dude, you expected any different? You even suggested to me after laughing a bunch that I would get banned from commenting there. ![]()
To clarify, from that repo ofc...
xD
Here's how to troll with a PR:
https://github.com/VegaDeftwing/opinion … og/archwtf
The PR itself was removed but "VegaDeftwing" (if that is their real name) helpfully saved screenshots of all my posts. Just use the "view raw" option on the images to behold the magnificence...
They even tried to grass me up to the Arch devs
EDIT: the actual PR just completely deleted their terrible Arch installation "guide", which can be found here.
EDIT2: and here's the follow-up blog post:
https://opguides.info/posts/wtfarch/
Fucking hilarious.
The follow-up blog post you mentioned started out actually funnier than I expected lol.
the part where you responded to him saying contribute to the guide instead, your response has already started out hysterical that soon.
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Though, maybe I should mention, that was actually the funniest part for me. Went down in quality after that little by little I thought.
The first, was brilliant, the fifth, was amusing, the 8th, was a bit confusing as to the joke there? I assume it has to do with it being experimental software? Idk...
The rest, meh...
That being said, I enjoy sarcastic trolling more than regular trolling usually, so that might explain why I feel this way if you didn't understand before.
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zapper wrote:Btw, you do know that your username isn't how they spell that drug right?:)
Congratulations, you're the 1,000,000th person who made a joke about it; your prize is a bucket of footsmell.
Awesome! I could use a bucket of footsmell, it keeps away the dwarves!
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Let it be known...
From this point forward, I declare that I identify myself as a heatsink.
What I don't agree with really burns me up. However, what I do agree with makes me run cool and smooth.
Please refer to me in any future conversations as Sir Medium Fluidity.
Thank you.
Okay then heatsink, or if you prefer Sir Medium Fluidity,
let me know when you see the comment above this one. ![]()
zapper wrote:Since when do liberals identify with google?
Wait just a stinkin' minute...
Google isn't liberal?
Yup, they just are a corporation, that wants to continue to make money in deceitful ways, without people on their case, as much as possible.
That being said, if someone is 10000% too far to the right or the left, anyone who deviates a little bit, will seem like they are on the other side, if they have enough anger, hatred, or just passion in general for changing things.
Although, doesn't have to be good, or bad.
Though the moment anger and hatred become part of that passion, thats where it is headed.
As an aside, I think I just realized the word "Hatred"
hatred comes from two words, hat and red.
Thus, we can safely say that the illuminati predicted the orange ones rise to power and so he made the word hatred to warn people, not to trust anyone who loves red hats as a person for the government.
Is this true?
Probably not, but the similarities are so suspiciously nuts, that I am just stunned... just noticed this.
LOL!
xD
I only posted this here, because of one thing specifically, its because I am speaking of doing this with regards to Hyperbola.
Does anyone know how to use gparted, or gpart to disable encryption temporarily in luks, so I can resize the vm, but without increasing the size on the physical disk but make sure that it is available in the virtual disk.
Right now for example, I have a qcow2 that uses 8.4GB but, it has 118GB virtual disk size in it.
Reason being, I want to be able to copy the qcow2 to disk whenever needed without any annoying problems, of space getting used up too much.
I also wanted to make a few variants of it.
200GB
465GB/476GB
954GB
and still have the 118GB of course. ![]()
The non used space though, I don't want to take up physical space on disk though.
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:distrinbtuions
This is now my second-favorite new word after crapton!
Just one thing though...
if its a word at all, its slang...
This reminds me of the time that I saw someone nuke a hurricane and it magically disappeared without causing nuclear fallout.
xD
Oh wait, what was I talking about?
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zapper wrote:fsmithred wrote:The version of live-boot in daedalus/ceres is still broken. Use the deb packages for live-boot and live-boot-initramfs-tools in the same sourceforge directory I linked in my last post.
Make sure you dd the iso to the whole device, not to a partition. ( to /dev/sdb and not to /dev/sdb1 for example.)
So qemu-system-x86_64 isn't a way to do so?
Aka, with the command parameters from earlier in this thread only slightly different.
Btw, if it doesn't work properly installing via qemu on a vm, that's usually a sign of somrthing needs to be fixed.
If live-boot is broken (can't find the mount command) then it doesn't matter if you install to VM or hardware.
However... the fixed version of live-boot is now in sid/ceres and will soon be in daedalus.
$ apt policy live-boot ... Version table: 1:20230131 10 10 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres/main amd64 Packages 10 http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian sid/main amd64 Packages
I mean, yeah... that is a given.
but my point being, is just that, if it can be done with vm, it should work outside of vm.
There is only one catch:
You won't know if internet works properly with a VM.
So... yeah.
I usually do this more or less:
qemu-img create -f qcow2 an.qcow2 60G
qemu-system-x86_64 -m 3072 -cdrom an.iso -boot d an.qcow2 --enable-kvm
qemu-system-x86-64 --enable-kvm an.qcow2 -cpu kvm64,+nx -m 4096 -device AC97
Btw, if you already have the OS installed and use the cd rom option and it looks like it will boot the usual os, it is still possible to press escape or have it start the other way, etc... if needed. ![]()
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:That librtmp1 package is not from Debian or Devuan. It is listed in that "damage.log" you posted over at daemonforums.org and it was from one of those crappy third party repositories.
So if you had done what I told you to:
I wrote:You can try removing all of the stuff installed from those repositories to see if that fixes git. Given that git works fine in the "pure" live environment I would expect that to be the case. Good luck!
Then you wouldn't have wasted everybody's time and effort here...
First, when i said "from Debian 8", i mean't my old Debian 8 system, not the Debian 8 repo.
Second, it came from a third party repo which was removed from the system years ago and not from TDE, LLVM or Mono.
Third, damage.log contained a list of 1188 packages. You really did not think that removing them one by one and testing if git becomes alive is a viable option, did you? Not mentioning time, it contained tons of programs i use. Therefore what you've told me to do was simply could not be done.
Btw, you do know that your username isn't how they spell that drug right?
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Meh. Not impressed.
Check out my forums.debian.net post history. Some real gems in there. Even when I was on the "staff". It was my fault that the Debian developers finally took an interest in the place again and flew in their wonderful "donald", if that is their real name.
Not impressed?
Go figure...
That being said, can you show me some of your gems of trolling?
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Windows 3.0
Pressing ALT F4 when audacity was opened, didn't give me a million dollars?
I thought that was absurd lol.
That being said, you must have a different idea of trolling then me or Andy.
He thought it was hysterical.
xD
I know I did.
https://github.com/audacity/audacity/issues/4271
Btw, look quickly before its gone... this especially means you @headonastick
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Whoops, meant this:
@Head_on_a_Stick
JWM-Kit wrote:I'm not expecting anyone to take this suggestion seriously.
Too late — I've set it up over at my OBS account:
https://build.opensuse.org/project/show … Stick:DCCR
EDIT:
@Miyo: the SSL certificate expired last year. Those bloody anarchists need to get organised...
Just click on "Advanced" then add an exception for the site but be warned that viewing it will probably land you on an FBI watchlist.
Make no mistake: I am a dangerous far-left radical hell bent on overthrowing Western "civilisation".
Don't get me wrong, I know your joking here, but uh, be careful, the world has quite a few authorities who take this stuff seriously, even when its a joke.
That being said, by my standards, most of the far right would think I was a communist when in reality, there is a huge part of the world where my ideals would be considered more centrist...
(Europe)
The more time passes tho, the more the country I live in, moves further right sometimes it seems and then they, the far right accuse "google" of being a leftist liberal whatever...
Since when do liberals identify with google? Their data centers heavily impact climate change in a negative way.
What drugs must those people be on? This would be like telling an arsonist he is being arrested for not burning down enough houses...
WTF?
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Wonder which drugs made people think Google is liberal...?
Hopefully its not going to make people crack... ![]()
The version of live-boot in daedalus/ceres is still broken. Use the deb packages for live-boot and live-boot-initramfs-tools in the same sourceforge directory I linked in my last post.
Make sure you dd the iso to the whole device, not to a partition. ( to /dev/sdb and not to /dev/sdb1 for example.)
So qemu-system-x86_64 isn't a way to do so?
Aka, with the command parameters from earlier in this thread only slightly different.
Btw, if it doesn't work properly installing via qemu on a vm, that's usually a sign of somrthing needs to be fixed.
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Yes, true, agreed. But spreading FUD like in the OP (the EU is making a law and it's the death of FOSS) is something the FOSS community should stay well away from.
Just me tuppence folks!
Funny, some youtubers I have seen via invidio instances have said something similar to the OP.
Also, thinkpenguin, said something regarding all wifi routers being locked down, but that also seems to not be true, for linksys anyways.
It was with regard to FCC new rules that were being pushed at one point, not something thinkpenguin said, just so you all know.
Except linksys was refusing to fall for the trap of feeling like they need to lock it down completely like the others.
This all being said, fear is everywhere more or less.
some is valid, some is semi valid and some is flat out lies.
Again, one can take the harm out of UEFI/EFI Firmware/BIOS:
DISABLE "SECURE BOOT".
That frees you from the dependency of MS-signed keys for OS or software... And saves you from a lot of configuration trouble.
To be fair, coreboot + intel me disabled can be done up until Intel Gen 10 on quite a few processors.
If you wonder why I know this, look up Nitrokey.com and then check NitroPC on their website.
Nitropc uses that.
My point being, UEFI is very often a pile of unneeded crap.
The only exception is for people who work for people who have the gall to think that windows serves any purpose on any rational level.
Which is a "deceptive, stupid, or morally depraved" argument
Then again, bosses who feel like Windows serves a purpose are very common... so the above criteria does alas apply.