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#526 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » On acsii, plasma and the power button. » 2018-02-05 05:05:09
steve_v has long since left the building.
steve_v is waiting for a Devuan release that isn't 2+ years behind Debian, and he still gets mail alerts.
Meanwhile, he's running a systemd-free rolling release, one with a modern desktop that works properly now.
He's running Devuan on servers though, where appallingly ancient software isn't such a problem.
#527 Desktop and Multimedia » On acsii, plasma and the power button. » 2018-01-11 21:27:02
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I like this Devuan thing, but it seems I've tried and failed to like any of the desktops that work properly with it.
KDE/Plasma runs, which is slightly surprising, but I've yet to convince it (or sddm for that matter) to do anything related to poweroff / reboot /suspend / hibernate.
It'll kill the session and that's about it. Having to switch to a VT and log is as root just to turn the machine off is a little lame in this day and age...
This is less lame than having to use some gnome derivative instead, but still pretty annoying.
I'm not (yet) familiar with the changes in Devuan, is plasma's power management functionality completely broken sans systemd or am I just doing it wrong?
Everything else appears to work, and the various blah-kits are doing their thing, at least as far as I can tell. There's some other layer between plasma and console-kit / upower etc. yeah?
Anyone had better luck here?
Off topic, what's the plan for the release cycle after stretch / ascii? Aiming for parallel with debian's stable releases or one behind? I'm guessing the former, as I hear rumors of tracking testing as well...
#528 Re: Installation » Downgrading Ascii back to Jessie » 2018-01-11 20:29:14
To downgrade, do I need to just change the name back to Jessie in sources.list and follow the steps again?
The answer to that question is going to be exactly the same as it is for Debian: No. If the packages installed are higher versions than those in the repos, apt does nothing.
There is no easy way of downgrading a system, the packaging tools were simply not designed for it.
The is various chicanery one can play with apt pinning to force lower versions to be installed, but there are usually conflicts, and it's always a pain in the ass.
99% of the time, I'd say a reinstall is less hassle.
Or better yet, just make a backup / snapshot before trying out the new stuff.
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