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#526 Re: Devuan » How can I run another OS from a Devuan running from a live USB stick? » 2023-07-28 10:55:10

Adding something like this to the qemu command might help for some things:

-smp cores=2,threads=2

I don't know what else you could do. I do know that you could make it a lot slower by removing the '-enable-kvm' option.

The the system you're running is a debian-based live system, you could boot the whole iso to RAM and run from there. Booting will be slower but opening programs will be very fast. Add the word "toram" to the boot command or possibly add "toram=filsystem.squashfs" depending on how the usb stick is arranged.

#527 Re: Devuan » How can I run another OS from a Devuan running from a live USB stick? » 2023-07-27 16:56:36

Are you sure it's the network that's slow? I find the whole system to be slow inside a virtual machine.

#528 Re: Devuan » How can I run another OS from a Devuan running from a live USB stick? » 2023-07-26 10:54:25

I could never figure out how to use virt-manager, so I just use plain qemu. Something like this to boot the iso file from your hard drive...

qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -m 2048 -cdrom devuan_whatever.iso 

Change the 2048 to however much RAM you want to give it (in MB)

Edit: Fixed typo.

#529 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Bookworm -> Daedalus » 2023-07-23 15:51:12

Bookworm to Daedalus should be similar to the migration of Bullseye to Chimaera.
https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … o-chimaera

Here's a script to do it for you or look at the code for clues about what issues might come up. This script has probably had very little testing with bookworm/daedalus, but it was modified from bullseye/daedalus.
https://git.devuan.org/farmatito/migration

Basic Daedalus sources.list

deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates main
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security main

You could also look at some discussions on this forum about migrating from bullseye to chimaera. There are a few different approaches, and they don't all work for everyone.

*** Make sure you backup important files before you do this. ***

#530 Re: Devuan » How can I run another OS from a Devuan running from a live USB stick? » 2023-07-21 11:29:44

It's not clear what you want to accomplish.

1. If your usb stick is set up with a persistent volume to save changes in the live system, you can install qemu in it. If you don't have persistence set up, you would be better off making a new live-usb with a system that has qemu installed.

2. If you want to install qemu, it would be easier to install it from the devuan repo instead of compiling it from source.

3. Where is the other OS you want to boot? Are you planning to install it into a VM inside your live system? Is there a virtual hard disk with a system already on it?

Most of our packages are from debian, unchanged. That includes python3-venv.

#531 Re: Devuan » We need to big up Devuan Live » 2023-07-17 20:34:31

Applications Menu -> Multimedia -> Pulse Audio Volume Control (aka pavucontrol)

If you're not in XFCE, it's probably a slightly different path in the menu. If you still can't find it, open a terminal and run /usr/bin/pavucontrol

#532 Re: Installation » Install with Runit as the init » 2023-07-16 14:30:33

Sometimes an update or upgrade will fail if you happen to hit a mirror when it's updating itself. In this case, trying after a few minutes will fix it.

Please post your /etc/apt/sources.list to make sure it's correct.

#533 Re: Installation » Install with Runit as the init » 2023-07-15 19:06:43

dist-upgrade will include anything that upgrade would provide. I think the part you missed was changing "chimaera" to "daedalus" in /etc/apt/sources.list (and then update so the local system knows what packages are available in the new suite.)

#534 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Loss of on-hover response » 2023-07-15 11:14:31

Refracta isos have openssh-server installed; the devuan-live isos do not. That's why you can't ssh to the devuan box.

How did you start Thunderbird in a live session? It's not in the isos. Did you install it in the live session? If so, you may have run out of memory.

I went to www.cepher.net and looked inside. I'd say there's a problem with that website. Turning the pages of the book uses 213% of the cpu in a VM that has been allotted 2 cores. It didn't lock up, but it was acting like it was close to doing so.

#535 Re: Installation » Install with Runit as the init » 2023-07-15 10:41:31

Devuan 4 installed without incident, but dist-upgrade did nothing.

What does "did nothing" mean? How did you attempt to do the dist-upgrade? I did one the day before you tried, and it worked normally.

Something like this should work:
Change sources from chimaera to daedalus, then update and upgrade.

sed -i 's/chimaera/daedalus/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
apt update
apt upgrade
apt dist-upgrade

#536 Re: Devuan » Some Newbie Questions about Devuan on Desktop » 2023-07-13 21:58:28

I would need a GUI for SysVinit to show, start/stop services. Maybe even read some logs if a service fails.

Install sysv-rc-conf and run it (as root) in a terminal. Arrow keys to navigate, space bar to select/unselect and q to quit.

And while you're in that root terminal...

less /var/log/syslog

#537 Re: Installation » Install with Runit as the init » 2023-07-13 21:52:26

In debian/devuan, runit uses the sysvinit scripts by default, because there aren't run scripts for a lot of services. The gettys and a couple other things will use run scripts by default. Others are supplied by the runit-services package.

Note that there are some differences from void in the directories that are used for runit. I don't recall exactly what the differences are, but you'll figure it out.

Look for posts by Lorenzo on this forum for useful information. He's the debian maintainer for runit.

#538 Re: Installation » Install with Runit as the init » 2023-07-13 00:05:29

In the rc1 live isos, -updates and -security are already enabled in sources.list. Just update the sources and install runit-init. If you want to keep refractasnapshot and refractainstaller, then also install live-config-runit at the same time.

# apt update
# apt upgrade
# apt install runit-init live-config-runit

#539 Re: Devuan » questions about releases when debian released and devuan is rc2 » 2023-07-12 13:47:22

Ceres (Sid) never freezes, but the rate of new packages slows down right before a release. That's because everyone is working on finishing the next release. When it's released, then people start working on new packages again and the unstable branch gets faster changes.

#540 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Strange Firefox bug in Daedalus » 2023-07-11 15:21:38

apt remove gtk3-nocsd libgtk3-nocsd

Tested on desktop-live iso.

You have to remove libgtk3-nocsd. Just getting rid of the main package doesn't fix it.

#541 Re: Devuan Derivatives » gnuinos new ISO files in https://www.gnuinos.org/mirror/daedalus/live » 2023-06-25 14:09:43

For zoom, I use chromium browser. If you have a link to a zoom meeting, ignore all the suggestions to install zoom and scroll to the bottom of the page to enter the meeting in your web browser.

For skype, you need to use a third-party package (thanks, microsoft!). Use the package for the corresponding version of debian. (bullseye = chimaera, bookworm = daedalus)
Is skype not installable in gnuinos? I have no idea how the libre kernel handles that.

#543 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Installing with a separate /home partition » 2023-06-21 16:52:32

I didn't mention it, but another option is to use one of the installer isos instead of a live iso. The installer isos use the debian-installer (modified for devuan) that you may be more accustomed to. That one will let you select a partition for home and not format it, so you can re-use your files.

Either way, you should have all your files backed up somewhere before installing.

#544 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Installing with a separate /home partition » 2023-06-21 13:20:53

IMPORTANT!!!
The live installer does not know how to re-use an existing /home partition. You have to arrange it manually.
If you select an existing /home partition with the live installer, it will be formatted and you will lose your data.
(Exception is if you set the installer not to format any partitions, and you format all of them in advance, but even then, some of your desktop configs may get clobbered with the new versions.)

Install without choosing a separate partition for /home.
Then rename the new /home directory.
Make a new /home directory.
Edit /etc/fstab to mount the old home partition to the new /home directory.

You can do the above tasks while still in the live session or after rebooting into single user mode. If you need more specific directions, let us know what your partition layout looks like so we can use the correct device names.

#545 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] rsyslog, logrotate » 2023-06-18 19:23:13

If you installed from a live-iso, see if this file exists:

ls -l /usr/sbin/anacron.orig.anacron

If it does, run the following (as root): 

rm /usr/sbin/anacron
dpkg-divert --rename --remove /usr/sbin/anacron

#546 Re: Installation » post install: cdrom error - .iso image as a primary apt source » 2023-06-16 14:28:43

if it is possible to configure package management so as it first pulls packages requested by user from the install cd(s) and then only if not present or outdated downloads data from the central repository (mirrors)

It might be possible to do that by pinning online sources to lower priority than the file or dvd source. Then you would need to specify the online source with the -t option to get packages from there.

As time goes on, any packages you pull from online sources will be more likely to need newer versions of associated packages that are in the dvd source, so that the package in the dvd won't be installable.

I think another way to do it is to mount the iso file and add it as a cdrom source.

#547 Re: Devuan » Devuan 5 Daedalus Release (Debian 12 - Bookworm) | Looking for info » 2023-06-12 10:07:16

So everyone who uses Devuan gets new updates at least two months later than the "slowest" distribution.

No, that's not the case at all. Devuan users have to wait a few hours after debian posts updates. The actual time it takes for the mirrors to update varies, but I think the longest is four hours.

The part that might not be ready is the installer isos and live isos. Those have to be put together and all the pieces might not be done today. I think we finished writing the release docs, but I'm not certain. Daedalus itself is ready. You can take your chances installing it from one of the new isos that might still have some bugs, or you can do a minimal install of chimaera and upgrade to daedalus, or if you already have chimaera, you can upgrade to daedalus.

If you use one of the new isos and find some bugs, you could let us know so we can fix it.

#548 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Latest Daedalus 'Continue without boot loader,' gone. » 2023-05-27 12:16:26

Did you boot legacy bios or uefi? If you did boot legacy bios, did you create a bios_grub partition?

I just tried expert install with the same iso and ran into some problems. I used gpt partition table but did not create the bios_grub partition. The installer didn't warn me about it, but I did get the window that asks if I want to install grub.

I answered No and it proceeded to ask me where I wanted grub installed. I chose "Select location" and didn't put in any location. It tried to install grub to nowhere.  (Says so in the log)

When the window came up asking me to finish, I selected Go Back. The screen flashed a few times and it came back to the finish window. I tried to go back to the menu several times, but eventually I had to choose Finish the Install.

#549 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » nfs setup server and client (nit permanently in the network) » 2023-05-22 17:13:16

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're right about the delay. You can also run into problems if the server goes down while the client still has the share mounted. (I just did that to myself about an hour ago.)

I find it better to use autofs, which will mount the share when you try to use it.

#550 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] system language » 2023-05-21 11:06:55

bash: dpkg-reconfigure: kommando ikke fundet

Use 'su -' instead of just 'su' to become root. That way you will get root's $PATH.

The other way to fix this is to use the full path to the command... 

/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure...

See 'man su' for yet another solution.

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