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#26 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] What is that UDP traffic ? » 2022-08-05 13:13:07

192.168.0.1 is usually a router address. Verify that 192.168.0.1 the local router IP address for your internal network by looking in your network settings for "default gateway".

So what that line tells me is iptables is saying is that your router is broadcasting UDP packets to all devices on the network, including into your machine through the ethernet connection.

What is the port information of the UDP packets?
Are you or anyone else on your network having any problems connecting to the internet?
I wouldn't worry about it, these broadcasts are normal in a local area network. The router will happily forward UDP packets from several protocols by design: TFTP, DNS, Time, NetBIOS, ND, BOOTP or DHCP, TACACS, IEN-116

Unless you are having issues connecting to the internet, or you just want to tinker with iptables to learn how it all works, you can safely ignore it.

#27 Installation » [Solved] desktop and minimal live isos not booting on usb » 2022-08-05 05:49:35

auanta
Replies: 2

On different devices I am trying all the ISOs and I ran across an error with the desktop-live and minimal-live

Plug in the USB, start computer from USB, it gets to a GRUB menu and you can't proceed past it.

On one computer, it says nothing, only on the first option it counts down 7 seconds and then nothing, it starts over the countdown.

On another, I can see the errors:

"error: invalid magic number
error: you need to load the kernel first"
And for memtest: "error: file `/live/memtest86+.bin` not found.

"Press any key to continue..."

Also a the bottom it says:
"error: no video mode activated.nd./vga.mod' not found.t found.nd."

The installer-iso seems fine but doesn't have firmware like the other two. I'll have to try loading the firmware blobs I got off debian.org from usb tomorrow. Also for some reason I can't get my wifi dongles to work during the install, so I'm stuck with ethernet til I load the firmware.

The respective ISO files matched the checksums, sizes, and signatures. The only thing that looked screwy to me is that for both the problem ISOs, the signed checksum has an expired signature.

#28 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Power button » 2022-08-05 05:18:28

I had similar things when I moved to Arch on my netbook, I know they're different devices but try acpid

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Power_ … CPI_events
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Acpid

acpid handles things like what happens when the power button is pressed. Afaik it is independent of systemd. I haven't tried it on this system yet.

#29 Re: Other Issues » How to boot the minimal-live from USB? » 2022-08-05 05:08:25

golinux wrote:

It might boot UEFI though.  wink

couldn't resist . . .

I don't get it, but now having also tried the desktop live I have the same problem so I'll have to open a new thread, possibly I have an unrelated issue

#30 Re: Forum Feedback » How about adding Index >> Discuss >> "Init System"? » 2022-08-05 04:18:39

Ha! Didn't occur to me there would be init wars... I was thinking op was talking more about users sharing configuration tips and tricks, that would be more productive than debating stuff. But yeah, it could just be a thread in DIY.

#31 Re: Installation » Bullseye migration story » 2022-08-05 03:52:19

golinux wrote:

@auanta . . . Have you actually looked at the website? The Explore page in the navbar lists all the documentation included in the website and some links point to resources elsewhere.

There is also a lot of practical documentation on this very forum as well as the DNG mail list.

Yeah, I've spent 2 days on this now (many hours) and looked through all of it including the git repo. Why do you ask?

Let me be clear, I'm aware that the documentation is presented on the website, but when I choose the language of separating them it is because I know behind the server, documentation and web dev are different skillsets. Yes, the end result is they both show up on the website.

And the actual live website, I am speaking about this separately from the git repos. Yes, what I am saying is there is an inconsistency between the live site and the repos. My not finding documentations within the www repo is because the documentation lives in its own "documentation" repo, not the www repo as far as I see when I look at the files.

#32 Re: Installation » Bullseye migration story » 2022-08-05 03:14:36

tomasz wrote:
auanta wrote:
tomasz wrote:

No. There are two. Why otherwise would you report a bug on one of them mentioning the other?

I mean, in theory there could be two repos, but then where is the second repo? In my bug report I reference the live site at devuan.org and the repo at git.devuan.org but no secondary repo.

https://git.devuan.org/devuan/www.devuan.org/ is secondary.

OK, gotcha, well but that's the website and they put the documentation in a separate repo, which honestly makes sense, to keep the web development and documentation separate. There apparently needs to be more (automated) synchronicity however.

It would be more beautiful if it was devuan/www.devuan.org/documentation but none of the git repos seem to go deeper than 1 level. I mean, you can't have a repo in a repo.

Just how it appears to me. I dug around and can't find any documentations within the www repo.

#33 Re: Other Issues » How to boot the minimal-live from USB? » 2022-08-05 02:48:08

Writing to confirm for anyone else out there that in 2022 the minimal-live still does not boot on eufi, as I tried on different machines. It will show the boot menu but you can't actually do anything, hitting enter on any of the options results in errors such as "you need to load a kernel first".

#34 Re: Installation » Bullseye migration story » 2022-08-05 02:32:19

tomasz wrote:
auanta wrote:

I'm searching up and down, and only see one documentation repo. So I think we're ok on that.

No. There are two. Why otherwise would you report a bug on one of them mentioning the other?

I mean, in theory there could be two repos, but then where is the second repo? In my bug report I reference the live site at devuan.org and the repo at git.devuan.org but no secondary repo.

#35 Re: Installation » Bullseye migration story » 2022-08-05 01:42:45

I think I'm up to speed now.

tomasz wrote:

First of all, it's not clear, why there are two repositories for documentation.

I'm searching up and down, and only see one documentation repo. So I think we're ok on that.

The networking issues should be addressed in the documentation. It is possible that this will happen again...or not, depending on the correct instructions.

Before we can do any further testing on the migration at all, we need someone to clarify the correct workflow - details in the bug report.

#37 Re: Installation » Bullseye migration story » 2022-08-04 03:15:11

Wow.. yikes Well, hell is on fire, I started having DNS problems and therefore can't do any actions with apt. Commenting out the network config I made didn't change anything. I rebooted into a new rescue shell. Still can't resolve name servers to debian.org or google.com. The --fix-broken option just removed all my apps for no reason. But the devuan sysvinit-core is installed! I should have waited for further instruction... My bad. Not the end of the world though, I still have my configs.

The old guide doesn't work for me, I try to remove libpam-systemd and it says "virtual packages like libpam-systemd can't be removed". It brings more doubts as to whether that guide applies to this version.

I think my apt and network are too confused to go any further. To make my life a bit easier I'll go ahead and do a regular install on this machine, but I'll test a migration with a spare, when ya'll are ready.

#38 Re: Installation » Bullseye migration story » 2022-08-04 02:27:52

tomasz wrote:

Good luck with that!

And what's this?!

auanta wrote:

Reading state informatian... Dano

Typo...fixed lol

#39 Re: Installation » Bullseye migration story » 2022-08-04 02:14:42

Hey folks I booted into a debian 11 netinstall and am in rescue shell, my system is otherwise fine besides boot issue, it seems the first task is to fix the dependency hell from within rescue shell. My system doesn't want to install eudev. Here's what it looks like:

# apt install eudev
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state informatian... Done
You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
eudev : Depends: libeudev1 (= 3.2.9-10-chimaera1) but it is not going ta be installed
     Breaks: systemd (> 220) but 247.3-7 is to be installed 
libpam-elogind : Depends: elogind (= 246.10.2) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution).

When I try apt install eudev libeudev1 it complains that it conflicts with libudev1.

Not sure if I need to uninstall libpam-elogind.

In anticipation of network issues when boot is fixed I configured the network manually according to instructions here https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documenta … uration.md

#40 Re: Installation » Bullseye migration story » 2022-08-03 20:48:57

Hmm, that's interesting, I feel silly saying this (maybe I didn't understand) but I did (and do) see that line on the website, it seems both @tomasz and I ran basically the same instructions (which included apt-get install eudev sysvinit-core). Maybe it was something specific to bullseye that makes this migration need more version-specific instructions.

#41 Re: Installation » Bullseye migration story » 2022-08-03 20:29:23

tomasz wrote:

@auanta

2. You forgot about the upgrade step. Did you forget to mention it or to perform it also?

Oops, forgot to mention that, it went smoothly with the keyring installed. If there's any difference through apt I would have to redo the migration, and see if apt complains. As this is not a virtual machine, I have to rescue my computer first.

3. Tomoyo for MAC is strange. Did you use it in Bullseye?

4. Where would openrc come from?!

No, I've never heard of tomoyo before, I haven't used MAC either, only MAC addresses obviously wink It seems to be very confused of even what kind of system I have. Ok, the openrc being there was just a guess. So I guess I got sysvinit but it's missing configuration scripts...

#42 Re: Installation » Bullseye migration story » 2022-08-03 18:57:09

Maybe you can enlist me in the migration testing. What do I need to do? @golinux

#43 Re: Installation » Bullseye migration story » 2022-08-03 18:42:06

Ah nope, can't enter any runlevel, it just prompts me again. But if I turn it off and boot into recovery mode, I can do runlevel 1 but then it says "no more processes left in this runlevel" yikes

#44 Re: Installation » Bullseye migration story » 2022-08-03 18:28:11

Hi, adding to this. What a coincidence, I too was migrating from bullseye yesterday. This is what I did:

I followed the instructions here https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … o-chimaera

1. Comment out all the old lines in sources.list, add the new devuan lines
2. sudo apt update --allow-insecure-repositories resulted in NO_PUBKEY error, I happened to find this page https://beta.devuan.org/os/keyring even though it wasn't linked in the guide, and downloaded and installed the keyring manually with dpkg -i devuan-keyring_2017.10.03_all.deb
3. Then I did apt install -y devuan-keyring and it was up to date
4. sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade went fine
5. The real problems began in the next step when I did sudo apt install eudev sysvinit-core - I definitely got package breakages, I don't have logs now but it was trying to uninstall things in order to install eudev. Sysvinit installed. I don't know if everything installed or uninstalled correctly, I thought it did, but after trying to force it several times with variations of apt -f install and specifying the packages... It seemed like I did the most I could, and the instructions made me think that it would get resolved "during the migration process"... So I took a risk! yikes
6. Sudo shutdown -r now and I am sitting in front of a screen that says it's looking for a btrfs filesystem (I don't have that) and RAID (don't have that), then it does a fsck, the ext4 system is clean, mounts with "Opts: (null)".. It says /scripts/local-bottom...done. /scripts/init-bottom...done. A warning that it is "Not activating Mandatory Access Control as /sbin/tomoyo-init does not exist." Init version 2.96: booting. And finally, "INIT: No inittab file found. Enter runlevel: ""

I'm trying to think the best strategy to get my system back up without losing any data or desktop configurations. I know I can do a rescue disk, but maybe I can do single user made and get it back up? yikes

I think it's saying that openrc boots but there is no inittab file, so it doesn't know what to do. Also this confirms to me that sysvinit did install and systemd is definitely gone. Maybe eudev is missing, I don't know right now.

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