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#26 Re: Devuan » Praise for the security updates » 2024-01-26 09:22:24
Yes, that's probably a gap, semil. Although I still have problems with the clipboard, for example, I've only been using Wayland for some time now. It's a stupid situation. Not everything actually works perfectly with Wayland, but with X11 there are apparently security holes that aren't being fixed.
#27 Devuan » Praise for the security updates » 2024-01-25 08:29:53
- jue-gen
- Replies: 19
It's great that security updates are implemented in Devuan with virtually no delay. For example, I currently got the notifications for thunderbird, firefox-esr, chromium on my smartphone from security@debian.org, go to my Devuan computer and all three get an update. That's nice to see and reassuring.
#28 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] libvirt / Virtual Machine Manager als root? » 2024-01-24 17:13:34
Thank you 
#29 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] libvirt / Virtual Machine Manager als root? » 2024-01-24 12:24:53
Yes, done, stopAI. Does that have any additional benefit?
#30 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] libvirt / Virtual Machine Manager als root? » 2024-01-23 20:02:42
Yes, thank you very much FOSSenjoyer! I much prefer it that way, of course.
#31 Other Issues » [SOLVED] libvirt / Virtual Machine Manager als root? » 2024-01-15 08:54:19
- jue-gen
- Replies: 6
Hello everyone, what do you think?:
For example, when I start Heads with libvirt / Virtual Machine Manager, the root password is requested. Is that ok or should it be set up so that libvirt / Virtual Machine Manager can be started as a normal user?
#32 Re: News & Announcements » [SOLVED] Bug in kernel 6.1.64-1 » 2023-12-10 20:09:11
Yes.
uname -a
... 6.1.0-15-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.66-1 (2023-12-09) x86_64 GNU/LinuxAddendum: did this bug break anything for anyone? I can't see that anything is broken here.
Addendum 2: Is this perhaps different with Devuan because no systemd is used?
#33 News & Announcements » [SOLVED] Bug in kernel 6.1.64-1 » 2023-12-10 13:59:29
- jue-gen
- Replies: 3
My Devuan system is running 6.1.64-1. What to do? I have not seen any problems so far.
Debian 12 "Bookworm" was supposed to get its third point release yesterday. Due to a bug in kernel 6.1.64-1, the update to Debian 12.3 has been postponed for the time being. In addition, users of Debian Stable and its derivatives are urgently requested not to perform any upgrades at present. ... :
https://linuxnews.de/debian-stable-bitt … -upgrades/
#34 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Nightly versions on Devuan » 2023-11-03 21:47:40
That's just asking for frustration and pain . . .
but it is interesting that it also works on Devuan ;-)
Update, 2023-11-05 09:38:
Yes, I just realized it. Constant updates keep everything up to date, but it's a terrible use of resources on the net. It was an interesting experience for me, but I won't be using Nightly any more.
#35 Installation » [SOLVED] Nightly versions on Devuan » 2023-11-03 20:12:05
- jue-gen
- Replies: 2
Nightly versions of Firefox can also be installed and updated on Devuan.
# First, the signature key is imported::
wget -q https://packages.mozilla.org/apt/repo-signing-key.gpg -O- | gpg --dearmor | sudo tee /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/packages.mozilla.org.gpg > /dev/null
# Then the fingerprint can be checked. This should be 35BA A0B3 3E9E B396 F59C A838 C0BA 5CE6 DC63 15A3
gpg --quiet --no-default-keyring --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/packages.mozilla.org.gpg --fingerprint | awk '/pub/{getline; gsub(/^ +| +$/,""); print "\n"$0"\n"}'
# The repository is now entered in the source list:
echo "deb [signed-by=/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/packages.mozilla.org.gpg] https://packages.mozilla.org/apt mozilla main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mozilla.list > /dev/null
# Finally, the sources are updated and the Firefox Nightly DEB package is installed for example in German:
apt update && apt install firefox-nightly-l10n-en
#36 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Testing & Ceres » 2023-09-14 13:52:28
I have been using both testing and ceres branches ...
That was an interesting execution! I am now venturing into Ceres on my second system. Thanks for the tips.
#37 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Testing & Ceres » 2023-09-14 13:30:43
ceres is sid.
Yes, of course, but I think without systemd
#38 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Testing & Ceres » 2023-09-14 12:55:12
jue-gen wrote:Now I am itching to try testing or even Ceres.
What does that even mean? What exactly do you want to try?
Testing and Unstable are developer tools, for those that wish to assist with finding and fixing bugs.
They are explicitly not a released distro and frequently do not get timely security updates.
Do NOT install Testing or Unstable:
1) on any system you cannot afford to have out of action;
AND
2) if you are not willing to diagnose and report issues via the appropriate bug trackers.If one has an obsession with shiny things and no desire to help develop/test, use a distro like Artix Linux instead, otherwise stick to a supported stable release, and use Backports if one needs specific newer firmware/software for whatever reason.
With Debian, Testing was completely normal for me and Sid just needs to be handled with vigilant caution for a production system. Do you think Devuan with Testing and Ceres causes more problems than Debian with Testing and Sid? That is my real question.
If I were using Debian, I would upgrade to Sid. But with Devuan, unfortunately, I can't assess that yet. I imagine that deep rebuilding work will have to be done if Debian is to be freed from systemd so that it becomes a devuan. Seen against this background, Devuan is not comparable with Debian 1:1.
#39 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Testing & Ceres » 2023-09-14 11:51:11
I used devuan testing/daedalus from mid last year to when it went stable and had no any issues, if i did they were probably my own fault. I think you will find there are quite a few users who go the testing/unstable route.
Yes, that's about how I did it. I am currently with Daedalus. I use LXQt and KDE Plasma, Plasma because it can use Wayland. Plasma has a few tiny bugs with Wayland though. For example, the control bar disappears during the most important tasks. These are only very small bugs and I think they might be fixed in Testing or Ceres. Yes, but on the other hand I'm dealing with other things ...
#40 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Testing & Ceres » 2023-09-14 11:34:24
I think it all depends on what you want to install and how you want to use testing and or unstable branches. Bleeding edge can be an issue from time to time, especially anything to do with gnome and kde desktop environments. I prefer setting up minimal desktop environments using bleeding edge branches, for example simple window managers like openbox and dwm and add tried and true software to them, learning how the x window system works to make full use of it instead of using 3rd party programs and the like. Just my take, its not a one size fits all and many issues might arise from the core components of devuan and debian like libc and xorg that could break a system using unstable and testing.
Thanks for the feedback. Yes, with Debian Sid for me it was always good to have Openbox or LXDE on the machine at least at the same time as KDE Plasma, to some extent as a fallback solution. apt-listbugs, nala etc. are also good helps with Unstable.
However, among Devuan users I have the feeling that Testing and Unstable are not used as often as with Debian. Maybe someone who works with Testing or Ceres and gets along with it will contact me. I would be interested to know.
#41 Installation » [SOLVED] Testing & Ceres » 2023-09-14 10:23:38
- jue-gen
- Replies: 11
Question: is it as unproblematic to use testing or even unstable with Devuan as it is with Debian? For many years I used testing with Debian and for quite a long time also Sid. There were no real problems. But I was always careful with updates and upgrades. Now I am itching to try testing or even Ceres. Are the possible problems different than with Debian? Do I have to expect something that does not exist with Debian?
#42 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Install from foreign sources » 2023-09-05 09:18:44
I'd wait - if your distro includes it, fine, otherwise......
Yes, I refrain from installing this tool ... Thanks
#43 Installation » [SOLVED] Install from foreign sources » 2023-09-05 08:26:41
- jue-gen
- Replies: 2
Upscaly offers an interesting possibility for me to improve old photographs or also cuttings from photographs. When I install from foreign sources, of course, there is always a risk. What would be safer? Flatpack or DEB? However, I can only poorly assess this risk. What do you think about this tool: https://www.upscayl.org/
Would you install it or would you rather leave it alone?
#44 Devuan » A report about systemd on linuxnews.de » 2023-08-20 16:23:00
- jue-gen
- Replies: 20
For those who understand German, here is an interesting and well done report on systemd, Devuan is also mentioned:
https://linuxnews.de/das-beste-oder-nichts-systemd/
#45 Re: News & Announcements » sources.list confusion. » 2023-08-17 05:19:20
Run apt update once and confirm. ...
Thank you for this tutorial. It works. I will read everything again carefully.
Thank you very much!
#46 Re: News & Announcements » sources.list confusion. » 2023-08-16 19:05:18
Default configuration of Devuan package repositories looks like this
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main contrib non-free non-free-firmware deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmwareMore info here:
Also with this sources.list
cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmwareI get this error message:
Fehler: Repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security InRelease' changed its 'Label' value from 'Devuan Security' to 'Devuan-Security'#47 Re: News & Announcements » sources.list confusion. » 2023-08-16 15:50:26
I am getting that same Label message.
I think there is something wrong. I've had something like this a few times. Wait and see has helped. Maybe we should just wait and see. Maybe it's being worked on right now.
#48 Re: News & Announcements » sources.list confusion. » 2023-08-16 12:49:04
Hello. I think you should remove
non-free-firmwarefrom
#Proposed-Updates
Yes, thank you! I did that and now I only get this message:
Repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security InRelease' changed its 'Label' value from 'Devuan Security' to 'Devuan-Security'I don't really understand that.
#49 Re: News & Announcements » sources.list confusion. » 2023-08-16 07:00:27
I mean that this sources.list was still working fine on my machines just before Daedalus became stable:
cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
#Updates
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
#Security
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
#Proposed-Updates
deb http://deb.devuan.org/devuan daedalus-proposed-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/devuan daedalus-proposed-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
#Backports
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmwareToday I get this message:
nala update && nala upgrade && nala clean && nala autopurge && nala autoremove
╭─ Aktualisierung der Paketlisten ───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮
│Keine Änderung: http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus InRelease │
│Keine Änderung: http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates InRelease │
│Keine Änderung: http://deb.devuan.org/devuan daedalus-proposed-updates InRelease │
│Keine Änderung: http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports InRelease │
│Aktualisiert: http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security InRelease [31 KB] │
│Holte 31 KB in 0s (0 bytes/s) │
╰────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯
Warnung: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free-firmware/i18n/Translation-en' as repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/devuan daedalus-proposed-updates InRelease' doesn't have the component 'non-free-firmware' (component misspelt in sources.list?)
Fehler: Repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security InRelease' changed its 'Label' value from 'Devuan Security' to 'Devuan-Security'
Warnung: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free-firmware/dep11/icons-128x128.tar' as repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/devuan daedalus-proposed-updates InRelease' doesn't have the component 'non-free-firmware' (component misspelt in sources.list?)
Warnung: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free-firmware/i18n/Translation-de_DE' as repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/devuan daedalus-proposed-updates InRelease' doesn't have the component 'non-free-firmware' (component misspelt in sources.list?)
Warnung: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free-firmware/dep11/Components-amd64.yml' as repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/devuan daedalus-proposed-updates InRelease' doesn't have the component 'non-free-firmware' (component misspelt in sources.list?)
Warnung: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free-firmware/dep11/icons-64x64@2.tar' as repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/devuan daedalus-proposed-updates InRelease' doesn't have the component 'non-free-firmware' (component misspelt in sources.list?)
Warnung: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free-firmware/i18n/Translation-de' as repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/devuan daedalus-proposed-updates InRelease' doesn't have the component 'non-free-firmware' (component misspelt in sources.list?)
Warnung: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free-firmware/source/Sources' as repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/devuan daedalus-proposed-updates InRelease' doesn't have the component 'non-free-firmware' (component misspelt in sources.list?)
Warnung: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free-firmware/dep11/icons-64x64.tar' as repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/devuan daedalus-proposed-updates InRelease' doesn't have the component 'non-free-firmware' (component misspelt in sources.list?)
Warnung: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free-firmware/binary-amd64/Packages' as repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/devuan daedalus-proposed-updates InRelease' doesn't have the component 'non-free-firmware' (component misspelt in sources.list?)
Warnung: Skipping acquire of configured file 'non-free-firmware/dep11/icons-48x48.tar' as repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/devuan daedalus-proposed-updates InRelease' doesn't have the component 'non-free-firmware' (component misspelt in sources.list?)Does anyone know anything about this?
#50 News & Announcements » Daedalus is stable » 2023-08-15 12:58:22
- jue-gen
- Replies: 16
Daedalus is stable
https://www.devuan.org/os/releases
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