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The kernel developers are keen on their features. GNU's bloated libc version doesn't help either.
For a more streamlined approach to kernel development try OpenBSD or perhaps 9front. Just don't expect a Windows/OS X desktop clone, although OpenBSD does offer GNOME.
Ok! Thanks for explain! I will try your suggestion.
For my legacy PC now i choose Devuan Ceres and Artix its running the best compare to others OS. And i love it both! ![]()
How disable apparmor?
I am remove symlink /etc/rcS.d/S14apparmor
But it still loading at boot
why "bloated" also applies to Linux, too, I thought only proprietary software suffers from it?
deepforest wrote:And why ancient is faster and newer is bloated?
Developers tend to add more features over time. These features do not come without cost.
See also Wirth's Law.
EDIT:
deepforest wrote:how disable apparmor from booting?
But why i cant choose what functions i need and what not? I thought that Linux gives me the opportunity for choosing?
That does not surprise me.
NM is useless bloat with a vanilla ethernet connection. All it adds are bugs. IMO.
Thanks! So better using network via /etc/network/interfaces ?
NetworkManager will ignore anything in /etc/network/interfaces. Remove eth0 from that file if you want to use NM with it.
EDIT: /etc/network/interfaces works via ifupdown & /etc/init.d/networking.
disable like that?
# The primary network interface
#auto eth0
#iface eth0 inet dhcpOk, thx for explain, i am try. But now my network works much stable(without NM) some times when i was using NM my networks is not works after boot. When i set network through /etc/network/interfaces i have no issues.
tell me, is your appamor setup engaged? My is slow as... a 386sx /4Mb ram while waiting for programs to open. I hope it's apparmor.
How to look is its enable, how disable appamor?
root@devuan:/etc/network# dmesg | grep -i apparmor
[ 0.187740] AppArmor: AppArmor initialized
[ 0.374761] AppArmor: AppArmor Filesystem Enabled
[ 1.033136] AppArmor: AppArmor sha1 policy hashing enabled
[ 1.033220] evm: security.apparmor
[ 18.923993] audit: type=1400 audit(1667155934.179:2): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="lsb_release" pid=1077 comm="apparmor_parser"
[ 18.924479] audit: type=1400 audit(1667155934.179:3): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="nvidia_modprobe" pid=1078 comm="apparmor_parser"
[ 18.924483] audit: type=1400 audit(1667155934.179:4): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="nvidia_modprobe//kmod" pid=1078 comm="apparmor_parser"
[ 18.929357] audit: type=1400 audit(1667155934.183:5): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="libreoffice-oosplash" pid=1085 comm="apparmor_parser"
[ 18.933645] audit: type=1400 audit(1667155934.187:6): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/bin/man" pid=1079 comm="apparmor_parser"
[ 18.933652] audit: type=1400 audit(1667155934.187:7): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="man_filter" pid=1079 comm="apparmor_parser"
[ 18.933656] audit: type=1400 audit(1667155934.187:8): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="man_groff" pid=1079 comm="apparmor_parser"
[ 19.046168] audit: type=1400 audit(1667155934.299:9): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="libreoffice-senddoc" pid=1097 comm="apparmor_parser"
[ 19.066041] audit: type=1400 audit(1667155934.319:10): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="libreoffice-xpdfimport" pid=1101 comm="apparmor_parser"
[ 19.355111] audit: type=1400 audit(1667155934.607:11): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="unreal" pid=1108 comm="apparmor_parser"
root@devuan:/etc/network# how disable apparmor from booting?
deepforest wrote:Hello! Can you explain? Why under Win7x32 i feel much better and smoother overall perfomance than on Devuan Ceres x64?
Because Win7 is obsolete and unsupported. Ancient software tends to run faster.
And why ancient is faster and newer is bloated?
How my network is working?
NetworkManager is working but it do not handle network?!
screenshot
https://i.imgur.com/gEyAsKr.jpg
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# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*
# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
# The primary network interface
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcpfreeartist@devuan:~$ ip a
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,DYNAMIC,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state UP group default qlen 1000
link/ether 00:1d:7d:c7:be:43 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 192.168.0.13/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global eth0
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
inet 192.168.0.26/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global secondary dynamic eth0
valid_lft 359sec preferred_lft 359sec
inet6 fe80::21d:7dff:fec7:be43/64 scope link
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
freeartist@devuan:~$ mcHi. After i was try run old unreal tournament 99 game, and manually install some x32 packages, my Devuan Ceres x64 is broke. Is there way to fix all that, or only one way is fresh reinstall OS totally?
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# apt upgrade
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You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these.
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libbsd0 : Depends: libmd0 (>= 1.0.3-2) but 1.0.1-2 is installed
libbsd0:i386 : Depends: libmd0:i386 (>= 1.0.3-2) but 1.0.1-2 is installed
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libgtk1.2:i386 : Depends: libgtk1.2-common:i386 (>= 1.2.10-18.1) but it is not installable
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libmd-dev : Depends: libmd0 (= 1.0.4-2) but 1.0.1-2 is installed
libx11-dev : Depends: libx11-6 (= 2:1.8.1-2) but 2:1.7.2-1 is installed
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libxext-dev : Depends: libxext6 (= 2:1.3.4-1+b1) but 2:1.3.3-1.1 is installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
root@devuan:/home/freeartist#UPD1
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# apt --fix-broken install
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root@devuan:/home/freeartist# Hello! Can you explain? Why under Win7x32 i feel much better and smoother overall perfomance than on Devuan Ceres x64?
c2q q6600, gf9800gtx(proprietary driver), 4gb ram, hdd
all works here on ceres
https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/ … a-patcher/
5.18 kernel version patched driver is compatible with 5.19 kernel version patched driver
Ah, ok, now all right
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# apt dist-upgrade
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W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en_US) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Packages (main/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Packages (main/binary-all/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en_US) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# uname -r
5.19.0-1-amd64
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# root@devuan:/home/freeartist# apt update
Hit:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres InRelease
Get:2 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Alexx2000:/doublecmd-svn/Debian_11 InRelease [1,560 B]
Hit:3 https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com stable InRelease
Hit:4 https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable InRelease
Hit:5 http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/deb/trinity-sb ceres InRelease
Fetched 1,560 B in 2s (905 B/s)
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
4 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
W: Target Packages (main/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Packages (main/binary-all/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en_US) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Packages (main/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Packages (main/binary-all/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en_US) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# apt upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
libc++1 libc++1-13 libc++abi1-13 libunwind-13
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# I am upgrading successfully but kernel is still 5.18
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=37447#p37447
Here my source list
https://imgur.com/a/4Ge9wST
steve_v
Thanks a lot!)
xinomilo
I do all according this instructions.
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5213
Now i am updating....
My source.list
https://imgur.com/a/4Ge9wST
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Prelimi … lds#Devuan
root@devuan:/etc/apt# sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
akregator-trinity amor-trinity ark-trinity artsbuilder-trinity atlantik-trinity dcoprss-trinity eyesapplet-trinity fifteenapplet-trinity juk-trinity kaboodle-trinity kaddressbook-trinity
kalarm-trinity kamera-trinity kandy-trinity kappfinder-trinity karm-trinity kasteroids-trinity kate-trinity katomic-trinity kaudiocreator-trinity kbackgammon-trinity kbattleship-trinity
kblackbox-trinity kbounce-trinity kcalc-trinity kcharselect-trinity kcoloredit-trinity kcontrol-trinity kdesktop-trinity kdf-trinity kdict-trinity kdvi-trinity kedit-trinity
kenolaba-trinity kfax-trinity kfaxview-trinity kfind-trinity kfloppy-trinity kfouleggs-trinity kgamma-trinity kget-trinity kghostview-trinity kgoldrunner-trinity kgpg-trinity
khelpcenter-trinity khexedit-trinity kicker-trinity kimagemapeditor-trinity kitchensync-trinity kjots-trinity kjumpingcube-trinity klaptopdaemon-trinity kleopatra-trinity
klickety-trinity klines-trinity klinkstatus-trinity klipper-trinity kmahjongg-trinity kmail-trinity kmailcvt-trinity kmenuedit-trinity kmilo-trinity kmines-trinity kmix-trinity
kmoon-trinity kmrml-trinity knetwalk-trinity knewsticker-trinity knode-trinity knotes-trinity kodo-trinity kolf-trinity kolourpaint-trinity kommander-trinity konqueror-nsplugins-trinity
konqueror-trinity konquest-trinity konsole-trinity konsolekalendar-trinity kontact-trinity kooka-trinity kopete-trinity korganizer-trinity korn-trinity kpager-trinity kpat-trinity
kpdf-trinity kpersonalizer-trinity kpf-trinity kpoker-trinity kpovmodeler-trinity kppp-trinity krdc-trinity krec-trinity kregexpeditor-trinity kreversi-trinity krfb-trinity
kruler-trinity ksame-trinity kscd-trinity kshisen-trinity ksim-trinity ksirc-trinity ksirtet-trinity ksmiletris-trinity ksmserver-trinity ksnake-trinity ksnapshot-trinity
ksokoban-trinity kspaceduel-trinity ksplash-trinity ksvg-trinity ksysguard-trinity ksysguardd-trinity ktalkd-trinity kteatime-trinity ktimer-trinity ktip-trinity ktnef-trinity
ktron-trinity ktuberling-trinity ktux-trinity kview-trinity kviewshell-trinity kweather-trinity kwifimanager-trinity kworldclock-trinity kxsldbg-trinity libarts1-xine-trinity
libkcddb1-trinity libkgantt0-trinity libkleopatra1-trinity libkmime2-trinity libkonq4-trinity libkpimexchange1-trinity libkpimidentities1-trinity libkscan1-trinity libksieve0-trinity
libktnef1-trinity libpoppler-tqt libr0 librss1-trinity libtdegames1-trinity libtdepim1a-trinity libtqt3-integration-trinity lisa-trinity lskat-trinity noatun-trinity quanta-trinity
superkaramba-trinity tdeartwork-style-trinity tdeartwork-theme-window-trinity tdeartwork-trinity tdebase-tdeio-plugins-trinity tdebase-tdeio-smb-trinity tdebase-trinity
tdebase-trinity-bin tdednssd-trinity tdefifteen-trinity tdefilereplace-trinity tdegames-trinity tdegraphics-tdefile-plugins-trinity tdegraphics-trinity tdeiconedit-trinity
tdelibs-trinity tdelibs14-trinity tdelirc-trinity tdemid-trinity tdemultimedia-tdefile-plugins-trinity tdemultimedia-tdeio-plugins-trinity tdemultimedia-trinity
tdenetwork-filesharing-trinity tdenetwork-tdefile-plugins-trinity tdenetwork-trinity tdepasswd-trinity tdepim-tdefile-plugins-trinity tdepim-tdeio-plugins-trinity
tdepim-tderesources-trinity tdepim-trinity tdepim-wizards-trinity tdepowersave-trinity tdeprint-trinity tdescreensaver-trinity tdescreensaver-xsavers-trinity tdessh-trinity
tdetoys-trinity tdeutils-trinity tdewalletmanager-trinity tdewebdev-trinity tdm-trinity twin-trinity twin4-trinity
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 192 not upgraded.
root@devuan:/etc/apt# apt install akregator-trinity amor-trinity ark-trinity artsbuilder-trinity atlantik-trinity dcoprss-trinity eyesapplet-trinity fifteenapplet-trinity juk-trinity kaboodle-trinity kaddressbook-trinity kalarm-trinity kamera-trinity kandy-trinity kappfinder-trinity karm-trinity kasteroids-trinity kate-trinity katomic-trinity kaudiocreator-trinity kbackgammon-trinity kbattleship-trinity
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
ark-trinity : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.34) but 2.33-7 is to be installed
Recommends: zoo but it is not installable
dcoprss-trinity : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.34) but 2.33-7 is to be installed
kappfinder-trinity : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.34) but 2.33-7 is to be installed
kate-trinity : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.34) but 2.33-7 is to be installed
tdelibs14-trinity : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.34) but 2.33-7 is to be installed
Depends: libimath-3-1-29 (>= 3.1.5) but it is not installable
Depends: libopenexr-3-1-30 (>= 3.1.5) but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
root@devuan:/etc/apt# https://pastebin.com/raw/QVbyX9gG
root@devuan:/etc/apt# apt update
Ign:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres-updates InRelease
Hit:2 https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable InRelease
Get:3 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Alexx2000:/doublecmd-svn/Debian_11 InRelease [1,560 B]
Get:4 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres InRelease [33.9 kB]
Hit:5 https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com stable InRelease
Err:6 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres-updates Release
404 Not Found [IP: 46.4.50.2 80]
Hit:7 http://debian.drdteam.org stable InRelease
Ign:8 https://repo.hotspotshield.com/deb/rel/all release InRelease
Err:4 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres InRelease
The following signatures were invalid: EXPKEYSIG BB23C00C61FC752C Devuan Repository (Amprolla3 on Nemesis) <repository@devuan.org>
Hit:10 https://repo.hotspotshield.com/deb/rel/all release Release
Hit:9 http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/deb/trinity-sb ceres InRelease
Ign:11 https://repo.hotspotshield.com/deb/rel/all release Release.gpg
Reading package lists... Done
E: The repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres-updates Release' does not have a Release file.
N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
W: Target Packages (main/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Packages (main/binary-all/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en_US) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: EXPKEYSIG BB23C00C61FC752C Devuan Repository (Amprolla3 on Nemesis) <repository@devuan.org>
W: http://debian.drdteam.org/dists/stable/InRelease: Key is stored in legacy trusted.gpg keyring (/etc/apt/trusted.gpg), see the DEPRECATION section in apt-key(8) for details.
W: Target Packages (main/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Packages (main/binary-all/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en_US) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
root@devuan:/etc/apt# Why ceres still not updated yet to 5.19 kernel?
@Head_on_a_Stick
Hello) Here svg logs from Arch and Fedora36
https://svgshare.com/i/irR.svg
https://svgshare.com/i/iqo.svg
Also perhaps check with a live ISO that boots with systemd to see how udev handles the devices.
Is there actually much delay when starting the desktop? It could be that the eudev stuff is done in the background after a working desktop is reached. I've seen that before with systemd-analyze output.
Ok, i will look exactly. I have at dual boot Arch and Fedora, all systems booting about same time.
Thanks for reply and exploring. I am will try your suggestion and report here.
ps same randomly happend thing was also on Debian for me
sometimes network is down after boot
/etc/network/interfaces
# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*
# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
# The primary network interface
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcpfreeartist@devuan:~$ sudo su
[sudo] password for freeartist:
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# ip a
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
inet6 ::1/128 scope host
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state DOWN group default qlen 1000
link/ether 00:1d:7d:c7:be:43 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# ifdown eth0
Killed old client process
Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.4.3
Copyright 2004-2022 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
Listening on LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on Socket/fallback
DHCPRELEASE of 192.168.0.20 on eth0 to 192.168.0.1 port 67
send_packet: Network is unreachable
send_packet: please consult README file regarding broadcast address.
dhclient.c:3124: Failed to send 300 byte long packet over fallback interface.
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# ifup eth0
Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.4.3
Copyright 2004-2022 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
Listening on LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on Socket/fallback
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 13
DHCPOFFER of 192.168.0.20 from 192.168.0.1
DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.0.20 on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
DHCPACK of 192.168.0.20 from 192.168.0.1
bound to 192.168.0.20 -- renewal in 238 seconds.
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# root@devuan:/etc/network# sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not re-enable some interfaces ... (warning).
Reconfiguring network interfaces...Killed old client process
Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.4.3
Copyright 2004-2022 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
Listening on LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on Socket/fallback
DHCPRELEASE of 192.168.0.20 on eth0 to 192.168.0.1 port 67
Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.4.3
Copyright 2004-2022 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/
Listening on LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on Socket/fallback
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 13
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 17
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3
No DHCPOFFERS received.
No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
done.
root@devuan:/etc/network# Yes, thx. i see long udevd.
Looks like eudev takes forever. Do you have many devices connected?
usb mouse and usb hub, 2 sata hdd, nothing else
You could try udev instead but that's from the systemd crowd so people might throw rotten fruit at you.
Noo, i am here because sysvinit