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#326 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Perfomance Devuan Ceres vs Windows 7 » 2022-10-30 20:04:29

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

The kernel developers are keen on their features. GNU's bloated libc version doesn't help either.

For a more streamlined approach to kernel development try OpenBSD or perhaps 9front. Just don't expect a Windows/OS X desktop clone, although OpenBSD does offer GNOME.

Ok! Thanks for explain! I will try your suggestion.

For my legacy PC now i choose Devuan Ceres and Artix its running the best compare to others OS. And i love it both! smile

#327 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Perfomance Devuan Ceres vs Windows 7 » 2022-10-30 20:01:00

How disable apparmor?

I am remove symlink /etc/rcS.d/S14apparmor

But it still loading at boot

#328 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Perfomance Devuan Ceres vs Windows 7 » 2022-10-30 19:47:20

why "bloated" also applies to Linux, too, I thought only proprietary software suffers from it?

#329 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Perfomance Devuan Ceres vs Windows 7 » 2022-10-30 19:34:20

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
deepforest wrote:

And why ancient is faster and newer is bloated?

Developers tend to add more features over time. These features do not come without cost.

See also Wirth's Law.

EDIT:

deepforest wrote:

how disable apparmor from booting?

https://wiki.debian.org/AppArmor/HowToU … e_AppArmor

But why i cant choose what functions i need and what not? I thought that Linux gives me the opportunity for choosing?

#330 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] How my network is working? » 2022-10-30 19:30:18

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

That does not surprise me.

NM is useless bloat with a vanilla ethernet connection. All it adds are bugs. IMO.

Thanks! So better using network via /etc/network/interfaces ?

#331 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] How my network is working? » 2022-10-30 19:25:47

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

NetworkManager will ignore anything in /etc/network/interfaces. Remove eth0 from that file if you want to use NM with it.

EDIT: /etc/network/interfaces works via ifupdown & /etc/init.d/networking.

disable like that?

# The primary network interface
#auto eth0
#iface eth0 inet dhcp

#332 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] How my network is working? » 2022-10-30 19:23:45

Ok, thx for explain, i am try. But now my network works much stable(without NM) some times when i was using NM my networks is not works  after boot. When i set network through /etc/network/interfaces i have no issues.

#333 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Perfomance Devuan Ceres vs Windows 7 » 2022-10-30 19:10:50

GlennW wrote:

tell me, is your appamor setup engaged? My is slow as... a 386sx /4Mb ram while waiting for programs to open. I hope it's apparmor.

How to look is its enable, how disable appamor?

root@devuan:/etc/network# dmesg | grep -i apparmor
[    0.187740] AppArmor: AppArmor initialized
[    0.374761] AppArmor: AppArmor Filesystem Enabled
[    1.033136] AppArmor: AppArmor sha1 policy hashing enabled
[    1.033220] evm: security.apparmor
[   18.923993] audit: type=1400 audit(1667155934.179:2): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="lsb_release" pid=1077 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   18.924479] audit: type=1400 audit(1667155934.179:3): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="nvidia_modprobe" pid=1078 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   18.924483] audit: type=1400 audit(1667155934.179:4): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="nvidia_modprobe//kmod" pid=1078 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   18.929357] audit: type=1400 audit(1667155934.183:5): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="libreoffice-oosplash" pid=1085 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   18.933645] audit: type=1400 audit(1667155934.187:6): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="/usr/bin/man" pid=1079 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   18.933652] audit: type=1400 audit(1667155934.187:7): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="man_filter" pid=1079 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   18.933656] audit: type=1400 audit(1667155934.187:8): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="man_groff" pid=1079 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   19.046168] audit: type=1400 audit(1667155934.299:9): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="libreoffice-senddoc" pid=1097 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   19.066041] audit: type=1400 audit(1667155934.319:10): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="libreoffice-xpdfimport" pid=1101 comm="apparmor_parser"
[   19.355111] audit: type=1400 audit(1667155934.607:11): apparmor="STATUS" operation="profile_load" profile="unconfined" name="unreal" pid=1108 comm="apparmor_parser"
root@devuan:/etc/network# 

how disable apparmor from booting?

#334 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Perfomance Devuan Ceres vs Windows 7 » 2022-10-30 19:09:27

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
deepforest wrote:

Hello! Can you explain? Why under Win7x32 i feel much better and smoother overall perfomance than on Devuan Ceres x64?

Because Win7 is obsolete and unsupported. Ancient software tends to run faster.

And why ancient is faster and newer is bloated?

#335 Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] How my network is working? » 2022-10-30 19:06:16

deepforest
Replies: 8

How my network is working?
NetworkManager is working but it do not handle network?!

screenshot
https://i.imgur.com/gEyAsKr.jpg

/etc/network/interfaces                                                                                                                                             304/304               100%
# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
freeartist@devuan:~$ ip a
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,DYNAMIC,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state UP group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 00:1d:7d:c7:be:43 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
    inet 192.168.0.13/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global eth0
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet 192.168.0.26/24 brd 192.168.0.255 scope global secondary dynamic eth0
       valid_lft 359sec preferred_lft 359sec
    inet6 fe80::21d:7dff:fec7:be43/64 scope link 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
freeartist@devuan:~$ mc

#336 Installation » How to make sure that the system is restored after a breakdown? » 2022-10-22 19:43:51

deepforest
Replies: 2

Hi. After i was try run old unreal tournament 99 game, and manually install some x32 packages, my Devuan Ceres x64 is broke. Is there way to fix all that, or only one way is fresh reinstall OS totally?

root@devuan:/home/freeartist# apt upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
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Reading state information... Done
You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libbsd0 : Depends: libmd0 (>= 1.0.3-2) but 1.0.1-2 is installed
 libbsd0:i386 : Depends: libmd0:i386 (>= 1.0.3-2) but 1.0.1-2 is installed
 libgcc-s1 : Breaks: libgcc-s1:i386 (!= 12.2.0-5) but 12.2.0-7 is installed
 libgcc-s1:i386 : Depends: gcc-12-base:i386 (= 12.2.0-7) but 12.2.0-5 is installed
                  Breaks: libgcc-s1 (!= 12.2.0-7) but 12.2.0-5 is installed
 libgtk1.2:i386 : Depends: libgtk1.2-common:i386 (>= 1.2.10-18.1) but it is not installable
                  Depends: libxi6:i386 but it is not installed
 libmd-dev : Depends: libmd0 (= 1.0.4-2) but 1.0.1-2 is installed
 libx11-dev : Depends: libx11-6 (= 2:1.8.1-2) but 2:1.7.2-1 is installed
 libx11-xcb1 : Depends: libx11-6 (= 2:1.8.1-2) but 2:1.7.2-1 is installed
 libxext-dev : Depends: libxext6 (= 2:1.3.4-1+b1) but 2:1.3.3-1.1 is installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
root@devuan:/home/freeartist#

UPD1

root@devuan:/home/freeartist# apt --fix-broken install
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  libstdc++-12-dev libstdc++6 libtsan2 libubsan1 libx11-6 libx11-6:i386 libxext6 libxext6:i386
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  libstdc++-12-dev libstdc++6 libtsan2 libubsan1 libx11-6 libx11-6:i386 libxext6 libxext6:i386
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#337 Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Perfomance Devuan Ceres vs Windows 7 » 2022-10-21 07:31:00

deepforest
Replies: 14

Hello! Can you explain? Why under Win7x32 i feel much better and smoother overall perfomance than on Devuan Ceres x64?

c2q q6600, gf9800gtx(proprietary driver), 4gb ram, hdd

#338 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] any chances to install nvidia-legacy-340xx on Devuan chimaera? » 2022-10-15 19:04:53

all works here on ceres
https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/ … a-patcher/
5.18 kernel version patched driver is compatible with 5.19 kernel version patched driver

#339 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Why ceres still not updated yet to 5.19 kernel? » 2022-09-08 18:41:57

Ah, ok, now all right

root@devuan:/home/freeartist# apt dist-upgrade
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root@devuan:/home/freeartist# apt install libc++1
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(Reading database ... 484947 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../libunwind-14_1%3a14.0.6-2_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libunwind-14:amd64 (1:14.0.6-2) ...
Selecting previously unselected package libc++abi1-14:amd64.
Preparing to unpack .../libc++abi1-14_1%3a14.0.6-2_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libc++abi1-14:amd64 (1:14.0.6-2) ...
Selecting previously unselected package libc++1-14:amd64.
Preparing to unpack .../libc++1-14_1%3a14.0.6-2_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libc++1-14:amd64 (1:14.0.6-2) ...
Setting up libunwind-14:amd64 (1:14.0.6-2) ...
Setting up libc++abi1-14:amd64 (1:14.0.6-2) ...
Setting up libc++1-14:amd64 (1:14.0.6-2) ...
Setting up libc++1:amd64 (1:14.0-55.1) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.34-7) ...
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# apt upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# apt upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# apt update
Hit:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres InRelease
Get:2 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Alexx2000:/doublecmd-svn/Debian_11  InRelease [1,560 B]                                                                             
Hit:3 https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable InRelease                                                                                                                             
Hit:4 https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com stable InRelease                                                                     
Hit:5 http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/deb/trinity-sb ceres InRelease                                                        
Fetched 1,560 B in 2s (829 B/s)
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
All packages are up to date.
W: Target Packages (main/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Packages (main/binary-all/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en_US) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Packages (main/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Packages (main/binary-all/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en_US) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# uname -r
5.19.0-1-amd64
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# 

#340 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Why ceres still not updated yet to 5.19 kernel? » 2022-09-08 18:38:53

root@devuan:/home/freeartist# apt update
Hit:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres InRelease
Get:2 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Alexx2000:/doublecmd-svn/Debian_11  InRelease [1,560 B]                                                                            
Hit:3 https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com stable InRelease                                                                                                                    
Hit:4 https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable InRelease                                                        
Hit:5 http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/deb/trinity-sb ceres InRelease
Fetched 1,560 B in 2s (905 B/s)
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
4 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
W: Target Packages (main/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Packages (main/binary-all/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en_US) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Packages (main/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Packages (main/binary-all/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en_US) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# apt upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  libc++1 libc++1-13 libc++abi1-13 libunwind-13
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# 

#342 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Why i can't upgrade ceres? » 2022-09-08 15:49:46

steve_v
Thanks a lot!)

xinomilo
I do all according this instructions.
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=5213

Now i am updating....

My source.list
https://imgur.com/a/4Ge9wST

#343 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Why i can't upgrade ceres? » 2022-09-08 00:29:59

https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Prelimi … lds#Devuan

root@devuan:/etc/apt# sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  akregator-trinity amor-trinity ark-trinity artsbuilder-trinity atlantik-trinity dcoprss-trinity eyesapplet-trinity fifteenapplet-trinity juk-trinity kaboodle-trinity kaddressbook-trinity
  kalarm-trinity kamera-trinity kandy-trinity kappfinder-trinity karm-trinity kasteroids-trinity kate-trinity katomic-trinity kaudiocreator-trinity kbackgammon-trinity kbattleship-trinity
  kblackbox-trinity kbounce-trinity kcalc-trinity kcharselect-trinity kcoloredit-trinity kcontrol-trinity kdesktop-trinity kdf-trinity kdict-trinity kdvi-trinity kedit-trinity
  kenolaba-trinity kfax-trinity kfaxview-trinity kfind-trinity kfloppy-trinity kfouleggs-trinity kgamma-trinity kget-trinity kghostview-trinity kgoldrunner-trinity kgpg-trinity
  khelpcenter-trinity khexedit-trinity kicker-trinity kimagemapeditor-trinity kitchensync-trinity kjots-trinity kjumpingcube-trinity klaptopdaemon-trinity kleopatra-trinity
  klickety-trinity klines-trinity klinkstatus-trinity klipper-trinity kmahjongg-trinity kmail-trinity kmailcvt-trinity kmenuedit-trinity kmilo-trinity kmines-trinity kmix-trinity
  kmoon-trinity kmrml-trinity knetwalk-trinity knewsticker-trinity knode-trinity knotes-trinity kodo-trinity kolf-trinity kolourpaint-trinity kommander-trinity konqueror-nsplugins-trinity
  konqueror-trinity konquest-trinity konsole-trinity konsolekalendar-trinity kontact-trinity kooka-trinity kopete-trinity korganizer-trinity korn-trinity kpager-trinity kpat-trinity
  kpdf-trinity kpersonalizer-trinity kpf-trinity kpoker-trinity kpovmodeler-trinity kppp-trinity krdc-trinity krec-trinity kregexpeditor-trinity kreversi-trinity krfb-trinity
  kruler-trinity ksame-trinity kscd-trinity kshisen-trinity ksim-trinity ksirc-trinity ksirtet-trinity ksmiletris-trinity ksmserver-trinity ksnake-trinity ksnapshot-trinity
  ksokoban-trinity kspaceduel-trinity ksplash-trinity ksvg-trinity ksysguard-trinity ksysguardd-trinity ktalkd-trinity kteatime-trinity ktimer-trinity ktip-trinity ktnef-trinity
  ktron-trinity ktuberling-trinity ktux-trinity kview-trinity kviewshell-trinity kweather-trinity kwifimanager-trinity kworldclock-trinity kxsldbg-trinity libarts1-xine-trinity
  libkcddb1-trinity libkgantt0-trinity libkleopatra1-trinity libkmime2-trinity libkonq4-trinity libkpimexchange1-trinity libkpimidentities1-trinity libkscan1-trinity libksieve0-trinity
  libktnef1-trinity libpoppler-tqt libr0 librss1-trinity libtdegames1-trinity libtdepim1a-trinity libtqt3-integration-trinity lisa-trinity lskat-trinity noatun-trinity quanta-trinity
  superkaramba-trinity tdeartwork-style-trinity tdeartwork-theme-window-trinity tdeartwork-trinity tdebase-tdeio-plugins-trinity tdebase-tdeio-smb-trinity tdebase-trinity
  tdebase-trinity-bin tdednssd-trinity tdefifteen-trinity tdefilereplace-trinity tdegames-trinity tdegraphics-tdefile-plugins-trinity tdegraphics-trinity tdeiconedit-trinity
  tdelibs-trinity tdelibs14-trinity tdelirc-trinity tdemid-trinity tdemultimedia-tdefile-plugins-trinity tdemultimedia-tdeio-plugins-trinity tdemultimedia-trinity
  tdenetwork-filesharing-trinity tdenetwork-tdefile-plugins-trinity tdenetwork-trinity tdepasswd-trinity tdepim-tdefile-plugins-trinity tdepim-tdeio-plugins-trinity
  tdepim-tderesources-trinity tdepim-trinity tdepim-wizards-trinity tdepowersave-trinity tdeprint-trinity tdescreensaver-trinity tdescreensaver-xsavers-trinity tdessh-trinity
  tdetoys-trinity tdeutils-trinity tdewalletmanager-trinity tdewebdev-trinity tdm-trinity twin-trinity twin4-trinity
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 192 not upgraded.
root@devuan:/etc/apt# apt install akregator-trinity amor-trinity ark-trinity artsbuilder-trinity atlantik-trinity dcoprss-trinity eyesapplet-trinity fifteenapplet-trinity juk-trinity kaboodle-trinity kaddressbook-trinity kalarm-trinity kamera-trinity kandy-trinity kappfinder-trinity karm-trinity kasteroids-trinity kate-trinity katomic-trinity kaudiocreator-trinity kbackgammon-trinity kbattleship-trinity
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 ark-trinity : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.34) but 2.33-7 is to be installed
               Recommends: zoo but it is not installable
 dcoprss-trinity : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.34) but 2.33-7 is to be installed
 kappfinder-trinity : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.34) but 2.33-7 is to be installed
 kate-trinity : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.34) but 2.33-7 is to be installed
 tdelibs14-trinity : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.34) but 2.33-7 is to be installed
                     Depends: libimath-3-1-29 (>= 3.1.5) but it is not installable
                     Depends: libopenexr-3-1-30 (>= 3.1.5) but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
root@devuan:/etc/apt# 

#344 Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Why i can't upgrade ceres? » 2022-09-07 23:54:51

deepforest
Replies: 4

https://pastebin.com/raw/QVbyX9gG

root@devuan:/etc/apt# apt update
Ign:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres-updates InRelease
Hit:2 https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable InRelease                                                                                                                         
Get:3 http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Alexx2000:/doublecmd-svn/Debian_11  InRelease [1,560 B]                                                                         
Get:4 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres InRelease [33.9 kB]                                                                                                                          
Hit:5 https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com stable InRelease                                                       
Err:6 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres-updates Release                                                                    
  404  Not Found [IP: 46.4.50.2 80]
Hit:7 http://debian.drdteam.org stable InRelease                    
Ign:8 https://repo.hotspotshield.com/deb/rel/all release InRelease  
Err:4 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres InRelease
  The following signatures were invalid: EXPKEYSIG BB23C00C61FC752C Devuan Repository (Amprolla3 on Nemesis) <repository@devuan.org>
Hit:10 https://repo.hotspotshield.com/deb/rel/all release Release                
Hit:9 http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/deb/trinity-sb ceres InRelease      
Ign:11 https://repo.hotspotshield.com/deb/rel/all release Release.gpg
Reading package lists... Done
E: The repository 'http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres-updates Release' does not have a Release file.
N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
W: Target Packages (main/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Packages (main/binary-all/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en_US) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: EXPKEYSIG BB23C00C61FC752C Devuan Repository (Amprolla3 on Nemesis) <repository@devuan.org>
W: http://debian.drdteam.org/dists/stable/InRelease: Key is stored in legacy trusted.gpg keyring (/etc/apt/trusted.gpg), see the DEPRECATION section in apt-key(8) for details.
W: Target Packages (main/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Packages (main/binary-all/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en_US) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
W: Target Translations (main/i18n/Translation-en) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list:3 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google.list:1
root@devuan:/etc/apt# 

#347 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » how on Devuan analyze boot time? » 2022-07-04 23:20:38

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Also perhaps check with a live ISO that boots with systemd to see how udev handles the devices.

Is there actually much delay when starting the desktop? It could be that the eudev stuff is done in the background after a working desktop is reached. I've seen that before with systemd-analyze output.

Ok, i will look exactly. I have at dual boot Arch and Fedora, all systems booting about same time.

#348 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » sometimes network is down after boot » 2022-07-04 23:10:00

Thanks for reply and exploring. I am will try your suggestion and report here.

ps same randomly happend thing was also on Debian for me

#349 Desktop and Multimedia » sometimes network is down after boot » 2022-06-29 11:47:44

deepforest
Replies: 2

sometimes network is down after boot

/etc/network/interfaces                                                                                                                                             
# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
freeartist@devuan:~$ sudo su
[sudo] password for freeartist: 
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# ip a
1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
    inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
    inet6 ::1/128 scope host 
       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state DOWN group default qlen 1000
    link/ether 00:1d:7d:c7:be:43 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# ifdown eth0
Killed old client process
Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.4.3
Copyright 2004-2022 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/

Listening on LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on   Socket/fallback
DHCPRELEASE of 192.168.0.20 on eth0 to 192.168.0.1 port 67
send_packet: Network is unreachable
send_packet: please consult README file regarding broadcast address.
dhclient.c:3124: Failed to send 300 byte long packet over fallback interface.
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# ifup eth0
Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.4.3
Copyright 2004-2022 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/

Listening on LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on   Socket/fallback
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 13
DHCPOFFER of 192.168.0.20 from 192.168.0.1
DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.0.20 on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
DHCPACK of 192.168.0.20 from 192.168.0.1
bound to 192.168.0.20 -- renewal in 238 seconds.
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# 
root@devuan:/etc/network# sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not re-enable some interfaces ... (warning).
Reconfiguring network interfaces...Killed old client process
Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.4.3
Copyright 2004-2022 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/

Listening on LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on   Socket/fallback
DHCPRELEASE of 192.168.0.20 on eth0 to 192.168.0.1 port 67
Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.4.3
Copyright 2004-2022 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/

Listening on LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:1d:7d:c7:be:43
Sending on   Socket/fallback
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 13
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 17
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3
No DHCPOFFERS received.
No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
done.
root@devuan:/etc/network# 

#350 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » how on Devuan analyze boot time? » 2022-06-29 11:14:06

Yes, thx. i see long udevd.

Looks like eudev takes forever. Do you have many devices connected?

usb mouse and usb hub, 2 sata hdd, nothing else

You could try udev instead but that's from the systemd crowd so people might throw rotten fruit at you.

Noo, i am here because sysvinit

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