outdated packages in Ascii: http://sprunge.us/AIeF
        These packages might and might not need updates, but we should figure out if there is some necessary releases to be done regarding security.

    libsystemd packages in Ascii: http://sprunge.us/cfAW
        These packages shouldn't have to be forked at this point, since the library doesn't do anything if systemd is not there.

    banned packages in Ascii: http://sprunge.us/ALPE

I would like to see the Devuan developers offer even experimental access to alternatives to udev (such as eudev, vdev, etc) even if not necessarily working out of the box or particularly integrated.

That was pretty much the setup I had on my last laptop (lubuntu), except Audacious. I have now the same on the X1. Pulseaudio gone, ALSA in. As you said, it did not help with the buttons though. I:ll dig into this at a later time. The way it is now is good enough.

The delay in GNUinos made me opt for Hyperbola GNU / Linux-Libre

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Please consider setting up a https://www.patreon.com account so we can support Devuan on a monthly basis. Ubuntu Mate has this and seem to do rather well with it. I support a content producer via Patreon and have found it a great way to support those I appreciate.

Thank you.

@gdager.. subscribe to git.devuan.org and use the git.devuan.org oauth integration... gitlab has a session expiry of days iirc...

<rrq> [05:54:24] by a brief scan of the source: there are 3 expiration times in play:
<rrq> [05:55:43] 1) after registration and profile update, there's only a short expiration time (3 minutes)
<rrq> [05:55:59] 2) after password login, the expiration time is 14 days
<rrq> [05:56:18] 3) with gdo login, the expiration time is a year.
<rrq> [05:56:27] all that is for the session cookie validity
<rrq> [05:56:59] (actually, 1 is 1800 seconds = 30 minutes)
<rrq> [05:57:36] then there's the inactivity timeout of 300 seconds. And I think that's what they grumble about.
<rrq> [06:00:26] (actually 2 is only if you tick the "keep me logged in" option; otherwise it's 1800 seconds)
<rrq> [06:02:41] with some modern browsers, one can convince it to juggle the required password on demand, seamlessly, under the hood, and seemingly stay logged in indefinitely.  [This is my experience but I am here a lot - golinux]
<rrq> [06:03:50] anyhow, it's the inactivity timeout that makes it a problem to procrastinate while authoring.
<rrq> [06:08:36] "The average person types between 38 and 40 words per minute.." (google tells me)
<fsmithred> [06:12:51] typing is not activity?
<rrq> [06:13:42] if you type really hard, it might bounce through the server
<fsmithred> [06:14:24] lol
<rrq> [06:14:36] no; "inactivity time" is the time difference between two server interactions.
<fsmithred> [06:14:48] yahoo chat used to tell you when the person you were talking to was typing
<fsmithred> [06:15:29] why would the dude's preview button be missing?
<rrq> [06:16:20] it probably just was below the window edge.
<rrq> [06:20:08] But it's terribly easy to change the inactivity timeout from 300 to any other number of seconds.
<fsmithred> [06:20:34] five minutes is too short
<rrq> [06:21:16] an hour?
<fsmithred> [06:21:51] I was thinking 15 minutes, but that might be too short, too.
<fsmithred> [06:22:08] takes me longer than that sometimes
<fsmithred> [06:22:53] but I learned long ago not to expect to stay logged in when I'm replying. Been bitten by that at lots of forums.
<rrq> [06:23:28] now I realised 1800 is half an hour... I'll make it 1800 ...
<fsmithred> [06:23:44] that's good