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#2901 Re: Intergalactic Communities » Does NASA use Devuan? » 2019-05-09 19:47:43

alupoj wrote:

from Windows to systemD :b

The correct spelling is systemd, all lower case.

#2902 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan 2.0 ASCII Stable » 2019-05-09 19:43:21

alupoj wrote:

Does not Linux kernel contain some obfuscated code except firmware BLOBs?

No, not that I'm aware of.

I trust Debian to remove any non-free code from the kernel and Devuan draw their kernel from them.

Please open a new thread if you want to continue this discussion, it is off-topic here.

#2903 Re: Installation » Hello bcm43142 » 2019-05-08 20:39:15

Follow the instructions given in the Debian wiki, they also apply to Devuan.

#2904 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Asus 1000HE and similar - Newer drivers with older Intel chipsets » 2019-05-08 20:38:12

Altoid wrote:

what do I do with /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf?

You should delete it if you want to use 20-modesetting.conf

Sorry, I should have said that.

#2905 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan 2.0 ASCII Stable » 2019-05-08 17:59:37

alupoj wrote:

Why not to add a Libre (deblobed) kernel directly to Devuan distro?

The Devuan kernel is already de-blobbed, that's why they have separate firmware packages.

#2906 Re: Off-topic » Something is wrong with my Devuan setup because my containers work » 2019-05-08 17:57:54

kuleszdl wrote:

It could also be the more practical reason that they do not want to moderate comments on controversial subjects because it's likely that commenters could show up who post offending content that violates various laws.

Quoted for truth.

#2907 Re: Installation » The most secure hardened kernel » 2019-05-08 17:56:40

If you're really paranoid about CPU manufacturers then you could buy an FPGA and create an OpenSPARC, POWER9 or RISC-V microarchitecture on the chip, for example:

https://www.microsemi.com/product-direc … n-your-own

Not very practical though smile

#2908 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Asus 1000HE and similar - Newer drivers with older Intel chipsets » 2019-05-08 17:45:15

The UXA acceleration method is ancient, have you tried Xorg's built-in modesetting DDX driver?

/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-modesetting.conf:

Section "Device"
        Identifier "Device0"
        Driver "modesetting"
EndSection

#2909 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2019-05-05 14:59:34

^ Sorry Miyo, it was the first link in the startpage search for the song.

#2910 Re: Other Issues » VLC has no codecs » 2019-05-05 14:57:06

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

I look forward to you growing up.

*blows raspberry*

#2912 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Output audio problem since last update » 2019-05-05 13:06:26

That is strange, the configuration file should work (I think).

Is there anything in the logs?

It may be worth trying pavucontrol to see if changes made by that program "stick" for the next boot.

Or add the relevant pactl commands to your desktop startup file(s).

EDIT: try putting your configuration in ~/.config/pulse/daemon instead (if that's not where it already is).

#2913 Re: Installation » Devuan ASCII 32bit on Asus 1000HE issue » 2019-05-05 13:02:05

Altoid wrote:
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:27ae] (rev 03)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller [1043:8340]
	Kernel driver in use: i915
	Kernel modules: i915
00:02.1 Display controller [0380]: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:27a6] (rev 03)
	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller [1043:8340]

That's interesting, you have two entries for the same device, no idea why hmm

The i915 kernel driver is loaded though so you should be fine.

#2914 Re: Other Issues » VLC has no codecs » 2019-05-05 13:00:02

crankypuss wrote:

Care to explain why i had to go through all this in order to get the codecs that should have been installed as part of the VLC package?

Because Devuan derives it's packages from Debian and the extra content needed to play DVDs violates the DSFG and so cannot be included in the official repositories.

You would already know this if you spent your time researching the subject instead of whinging like a spoilt little baby.

#2915 Re: Installation » Devuan ASCII 32bit on Asus 1000HE issue » 2019-05-04 20:32:59

Altoid wrote:

Can you post

lspci -knn | grep -iA2 'vga\|3d\|display'

It returns nothing.

How about without my silly grep? What does the plain lspci -knn report about your graphics card?

Oh, and leave that poor cat(1) alone:

grep -i _OS dsdt.dsl

big_smile

#2916 Re: Installation » Devuan ASCII 32bit on Asus 1000HE issue » 2019-05-04 16:50:58

Altoid wrote:

my kernel command line does not have acpi_osi="Linux" or acpi_osi="!Windows 2009".

You could try clearing the string by using

acpi_osi=

Reference: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/ … s.txt#L153

Altoid wrote:

I did find an unclaimed device

I'm not really familiar with lshw(1) but could that be for an unused display output?

Can you post

lspci -knn | grep -iA2 'vga\|3d\|display'

#2917 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Output audio problem since last update » 2019-05-04 16:41:08

mururoa wrote:

I've done my homework and tried to add set-default-sink and set-default-source in pulse audio config file

Please post your configuration files.

Background for everybody else: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=141895

#2918 Re: Other Issues » VLC has no codecs » 2019-05-04 06:57:00

Please use code tags when posting terminal output.

crankypuss wrote:

Seems like it should tell you to exit synaptic first, if you don't things are locked.

Seems like the error message given if you try that is quite sufficient.

Devuan is intended for competent GNU/Linux users, perhaps try one of the derivatives if you're finding it a challenge.

crankypuss wrote:

dvd's are no-go

Try

# apt install libdvdread4

#2920 Re: Installation » The most secure hardened kernel » 2019-05-03 21:42:55

alupoj wrote:

What do you think about LibertyBSD compared to OpenBSD?

I think their criticisms of the firmware included with OpenBSD are not valid.

AFAIUI, the OpenBSD developers' attitude is that if the user has hardware that needs blobs to function then it should be installed automatically because if the user didn't want this then they wouldn't buy that hardware.

After all, any hardware that doesn't download the firmware from the operating system has the firmware installed at the factory instead so just de-blobbing the operating system does not fix the problem (this also applies to the Libreboot project).

alupoj wrote:

And what do you think about HardenedBSD  compared to OpenBSD?

Yes, HardenedBSD has some neat features but it's based on FreeBSD and the developers of that operating system have the same "features first" attitude as the Linux devs so the changes are a sticking plaster rather than a from-scratch "correct" implementation.

But I'm no expert smile

alupoj wrote:

secure ZFS server

IMO this is an oxymoron due to the complexity of ZFS.

alupoj wrote:

Is it possible to manually remove firmware blobs from OpenBSD and HBSD without many scripts like in LibertyBSD?

Yes, just read their scripts to see what they do smile

alupoj wrote:

Just not installing non-free packages and remove any blob files like  firmwares from file system? Shall OpenBSD/HBSD kernel still be recompiled to avoid ALL blobs?

There are no non-free packages in OpenBSD.

The firmware included in the source tree for OpenBSD is CPU microcode, which is needed to prevent instabilities in the hardware so I don't think removing it would help.

I would be more worried about hard drive controllers and other components that don't upload firmware from the OS.

alupoj wrote:

What do you think about security of Talos II hardware platform?

Yes, I am a big fan of Talos & POWER9, that architecture is much better than the x86 garbage.

If I was in the market for a desktop system then I would buy one of their Blackbird systems in preference to any of that Xeon nonsense.

But the problem of embedded firmware for the other components on the motherboard remains no matter what the hype from Talos may claim...

#2921 Re: Off-topic » Something is wrong with my Devuan setup because my containers work » 2019-05-03 21:20:44

kuleszdl wrote:

Well, around 32:40 he says:

"I think that the last really important thing that things like systemd enable through the use of cgroups and stuff like that is containers".

I think he's using "enable" to mean "make easier".

Given that the speaker is a FreeBSD developer I think it's safe to assume that he knows containers can work without systemd.

https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/jails.html

kuleszdl wrote:

Later he goes on that the barrier for using containers is reduced by systemd. And I don't see any arguments that support this claim

He's just stating his opinion, which is based on his experience in a job working for a company that made large storage appliances.

FWIW, I find systemd-nspawn a lot easier to use than LXC, particularly in respect of networking.

#2923 Re: Off-topic » Something is wrong with my Devuan setup because my containers work » 2019-05-02 18:55:10

kuleszdl wrote:

which suggests that we need systemd for properly running containers

That's not what the bloke says at all, he just claims that systemd makes it easier to manage containers.

Nice troll though, well done smile

#2924 Re: Installation » The most secure hardened kernel » 2019-05-02 18:48:48

alupoj wrote:

I thought it is a comparison to old KSPP.

The page was updated last year so it is quite old, check the commits to the KSPP repository since then to see if anything has changed.

alupoj wrote:

loosing to Grsecurity very much

Yes indeed, the kernel devs have never been very interested in security-related issues and the KSPP looks like lip-service to me (not that I'm qualified to judge).

I wouldn't use Linux for anything important, OpenBSD is my preferred choice for serious stuff.

alupoj wrote:

Do underground groups exist who resell up to date releases of Grsecurity patches for a lower price than original with modern kernels in sources?

I don't know.

The last freely-available grsec patches don't protect against Spectre or Meltdown so they're useless now.

alupoj wrote:

Does Grsecurity company watermark their patches per each client?

No idea.

#2925 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [Solved] Beowulf update holds back packages » 2019-05-01 20:01:39

rolfie wrote:

This tries to remove my wine installation

No it doesn't, it just marks the packages as auto-removable — they won't actually be removed until you use apt autoremove (or aptitude, which auto-autoremoves).

This thread from fdn explains how to deal with situations like this:

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=104157

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