UPDATE:

I tried removing:

Also upgraded the below:

firefox-esr
Iall qemu stuff and linux-libre-lts and winehq-staging stuff.

I rebooted and things were fine and then I removed libreoffice and upgraded openrc and bingo:

I got the same problem again.

Btw, I have a snapshot qcow2 image of the last time it worked.

I now think openrc has been screwed up somehow...

Sigh... very annoying.

@GlennW mine is a usb dongle though. I have a Logitech M510 and also one other one as well, both don't work after I do the latest updates.

Its kind of annoying, because I don't know how to downgrade the packages needed to fix my problem.

Speaking of huge upgrade, I can't seem to get my mouse working with the most recent upgrades... again.

https://upload.disroot.org/r/54sJQDA0#J … IkqA1GsIs=

This is the packages I updated.  Once I do this, I poweroff computer and reboot and wireless mouse no longer works.

Did you know count dracula is going to be donald trump's running mate?

Because who else can he count on?

@quickfur I would be interested in knowing how many % of t *those* jokes are your own. More than half of the ones I posted are ones I remember hearing somewhere. The rest I came up with on my own.'

typo*

@quickfur The blacksmith joke was brilliant... you probably have others I missed, but you make so many, I have to wonder where you get them all from.

Either you have a natural talent, or you look them up online and put them on here or a mixture.

I tend to think not the 2nd option. Either the first option or both makes sense to me.

@JWM-Kit assuming you can trick FB into believing your using something else.

I am not entirely certain if that's possible. I am more than 75% sure FB is playing a game though by claiming firefox won't work.

@soren dark ambient is my thing. DOOM DOOM2 are good examples of this.

These songs creep me out but I still  enjoy them a lot. Btw, this first track makes me think of "You don't know where you will be attacked from, be on guard on all sides"

https://invidious.materialio.us/watch?v=8G_f6LCwmsE

This one makes me think of "this is only the beginning"
https://invidious.materialio.us/watch?v=ffl2ShaWyGM

This one I literally thought subconsciously, when I heard this, "I CANT GET OUT!"

https://invidious.materialio.us/watch?v=rLvSD5HuIcE

My three favourite doom tracks!

I never really use php or apache, but then again, I don't use server like applications... so yeah.

I can't say if anything better exists or not. Or even similar or alternative.

All I can say is, yes... debian is muking with things sounds about right.  All mainstream distros do this tho...

Except maybe Void.

@golinux well yes, you can be tracked wherever you go online. This is correct. The only place this can be false on is what files exist on your computer.  That's not the level of privacy I find ideal... its mediocre to be honest.

The only place going online doesn't reveal, is your files on your computer.

That's privacy hanging by a thread.

@quickfur Even with an openwrt based router?

I have one of those, hence my question.

It also uses ath9k wifi card.

I tend to doubt it is already zero.

Aka, there is some privacy left, if you use linux, coreboot, intel me is diabled type situation with ath9k and your OS has no backdoors.

If that's the case you aren't being spied on by default till you go online and if you have openwrt ath9k router,, another layer.

That's my understanding. However if you go on a non-libre website, then yes, your privacy is trashed on that website even with ublock origin and other precautions in web browser

Point being, you have to jump through so many hoops to have basic protections against privacy invasion.

But then at least you aren't being watched on the OS level with all your files revealed to the web.

Though that's still far from perfect.

This being said, better to starve the data collection beasts of what they want as much as possible.

Its best to protest evil deeds like data collection by starving them as much as you can handle

@quickfur you can still block ads. that is a form of privacy.

When you can no longer do that, things get real bad!