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#226 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Unity desktop environment » 2023-02-05 09:58:31

I abandoned KDE/GNOME many, many years ago, they are just so bloated; normally I would run a WM, but it is very convenient to install from the Devuan Live version of this distro, that I now use XFCE as my primary desktop; I certainly wouldn't want anything heavier/bigger. wink

#227 Re: ARM Builds » PeppermintOS Devuan arm64 possible testing. » 2023-01-20 19:43:27

I'd be interested in trying an ARM release on my Raspberry Pi 4. smile

#228 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] dkpg error » 2023-01-19 18:21:54

E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock. It is held by process 2652

Try killing 2652 - sudo kill -9 2652

https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man1/kill.1.html

#229 Re: Installation » "target_home" dir after installation? » 2023-01-19 15:40:51

aluma wrote:
fsmithred wrote:

..Please be aware that the default action is to format any partitions you select. If you select a partition with data you want to keep, you will lose it.

  In my experience, this is the first installer that formats the /home partition.
This is wrong and I can give examples of other distributions that don't do this by default.
What is the need for such a solution?

Refractainstaller is just that, it installs the distro, (originally just Refracta), as that was what it was written for - the fact that other distros choose to use it as well is proof that it works for its intended purpose.

It's simple enough, just install to your system partition, & then add your old /home partition to /etc/fstab.

#230 Re: Installation » "target_home" dir after installation? » 2023-01-19 10:58:41

I suggest that you read/re-read the installation instructions, I only ever went wrong when trying to reuse a /home directory, which as stated, isn't supported.

If using refractainstaller, just install to one partition, then alter the /etc/fstab to mount your original, 2nd partition, on /home.

#231 Re: Installation » "target_home" dir after installation? » 2023-01-18 10:34:16

I've always run 'live' & installed from it to disk, & never had any problems. smile

I've found installing from live distros to be the easiest way to install distros, not just Devuan, to get up & running quickly.

It's been a long time since I've installed from an installation disk! wink

Edit: The OP's problem may well have been from having his 'home' mounted at the time of installing.

#232 Re: Off-topic » Haiku r1/b4 » 2023-01-14 11:12:04

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Wonderfully cohesive desktop experience. Just a shame it's so ugly.

That had always been my thought too, but evidently, it's how BeOS used to look, & the weird menu system, but I've started to get used to it, having been trying this O/S off & on over the years. smile

Another thing that I've read about Haiku, is that it has less code, for the whole system, than there is in the Linux kernel!

It certainly boots up faster! wink

#233 Re: Off-topic » Haiku r1/b4 » 2023-01-13 18:56:57

I'm quite impressed with this beta4 release, wifi was one of the things that clinched it for me, to make it worthwhile installing to bare metal - I now have it installed to an old HP G62 laptop as well. smile

#234 Off-topic » Haiku r1/b4 » 2023-01-13 14:05:10

Camtaf
Replies: 10

If you like to try other operating systems, give this one a go, I've got it running on one of my desktop thin clients, & it looks like it is almost ready as a release candidate, but be warned, it is quite a different O/S.

https://www.haiku-os.org/

Runs 'live' if you want, just copy to a pendrive, else install to bare metal.

#235 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » No sound from speakers - VIA VT8237A/VT8251 HDA » 2023-01-09 15:08:07

Check F6 in alsamixer, it may be trying to use the wrong output....

Also, if using pulseaudio, again, check that it is using the right output....

(Default output is HDMI if I remember.)

#236 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] DEVELOPERS: don't hardcode GPT on installation » 2023-01-07 09:59:25

GPT is easy enough, but getting familiar with EFI took a bit of time, for me, but most of my hardware is MBR, & Devuan Live/XFCE (& NetBSD) work/install on them fine - Devuan also installs to EFI without any problems on my 'newer' machines. smile

#237 Re: Devuan » Brave New Trusted Boot World » 2022-12-15 17:59:03

I'd like to see/have a live/installable WM based Devuan - call it Light/Basic/or whatever, just needs a WM, terminal, file browser, web browser to start with, allowing most things to be done that a basic O/S needs - all other software can/could easily be added by the user, as & when needed - with the possibility of persistence, (that would be a big bonus) - but I know we only have a small team who could/can make these things happen, so not expecting it anytime soon...... big_smile

#238 Re: Off-topic » Revival of the Linux Framebuffer & DirectFB » 2022-12-13 17:49:17

Yes, if I remember right, you could play video with the likes of mplayer, & maybe have graphics in a text type web browser in a command line installation - it's been a long time since, but I'm pretty sure I used to watch videos.

#239 Re: Off-topic » Revival of the Linux Framebuffer & DirectFB » 2022-12-13 15:02:52

I think frame buffers allow graphics in the (virtual) terminals, don't they(?).

#240 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] I don't know about hardware but need a PC » 2022-12-05 18:27:47

jue-gen wrote:

By the way, do you guys find these fanless machines o.k.? For example something like this?:
https://www.shuttle.eu/de/products/slim/ds10u

That is pretty much what my HP T520 thin clients are, they take an M2 SSD, are silent, & fan free too.

I have been using fan less computers for quite some time now, can't remember when I got my first one, but must be about 5 years ago, maybe more, it's a MSI, about 4" square & 2" high - my most used computer.

#241 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] I don't know about hardware but need a PC » 2022-12-05 14:37:22

Lots of older computers available online pre used, that's where I get all of mine these days. big_smile

Towers go quite cheaply, as everyone seem to want small quiet computers these days, (me included). wink

Take a look at the resellers of company pre used computers on Ebay. smile

#242 Re: Off-topic » [SOLVED] I don't know about hardware but need a PC » 2022-12-05 09:57:14

Personally, I don't need anything modern; I can do what you want on an old thin client, so basically, it's just up to you how much you want to spend. wink

Extra storage can always come in external USB drives - what other expansion were you thinking about(?).

#243 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » No wifi when moving to the latest Refracta. » 2022-11-26 18:01:52

Most distros will load necessary drivers when booting up a computer, as long as the needed drivers can be found on the system.

On Devuan, they are kept in the /Firmware directory, & get loaded by the boot process, I think it is the initrd.img that searches for them & actually loads them into kernel space, ready for using.

#244 Re: Installation » Devuan: Existential issues. » 2022-11-20 09:51:10

Throwing a tantrum over such trivial matters as covered in this thread is entirely on you. If you're going to behave that way, then I expect this community is better of without you anyway.

We certainly will be......

.... the entitlement of some people. All over an "alarming" lack of gnome-user-manager preinstalled

.....& hasn't the common sense to install it for themself....

I wonder how the poster will fair on the Slackware forums...... wink

#245 Re: Off-topic » What are you reading/want to read ? » 2022-11-19 10:15:30

What am I about to read?

All the documentation on the BSDs, again, as I have just acquired a lot of thin clients which need an O/S.... big_smile

(It's been a while since even using OpenBSD as my desktop, never really got on with FreeBSD, but I shall be giving it another tryout, as will NetBSD be getting a further spell on one of them; & NomadBSD too.) smile

Well, I reckon that will keep me occupied this Winter...... wink

#246 Re: Installation » Devuan: Existential issues. » 2022-11-19 09:56:11

devuan_chimaera_4.0.0_amd64_desktop.iso

This .iso is for installing desktop systems, you get a selection of WMs & DEs; which you choose is up to you; & your 'needed' program is down to the DE you choose.

Most people just use the command line to add & remove users, it's been done that way since before GUIs, even I, as just a desktop user, use the command line tools when needed.

If you need a server distro then use one, & add a DE to it, it's that simple.

Devuan is just Debian without systemd & it takes a lot of work to remove it - we appreciate the teams efforts.

#247 Re: Intergalactic Communities » devuan.ru - russian-speaking community of GNU/Linux Devuan » 2022-11-18 10:13:54

golinux wrote:

. . . the Russian State is not the Russian free software community.

...& most of the Russian people seem to disagree with what is happening, but are powerless to do anything about it, unfortunately.

#249 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Chimaera: "apt purge slim" will remove "task-xfce-desktop*" +much more » 2022-11-10 17:47:36

Looks like it's a meta package that has slim as a dependancy - I'd try installing lightdm first, then see if it still wants to remove xfce.

#250 Re: Other Issues » Recovery after a badly failed update » 2022-11-07 09:15:56

If your SSD is on a separate mount point to that which the installer uses, it won't be touched.
(You just have to create the mount point again.)

(It is always best to have a separate backup anyway, in case of corruption, whatever O/S you use).

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