@yohno that's awesome news! I figured a determined enough user could get it done.

Just some more info: I haven't tried it but there's an extra perl module for obmenu-generator that supports locales, that might get you the menu as well, but you would likely need to re-install most of the apps to get back the translations in their .desktop files in /usr/share/applications for it to work right.

10-18-2025 New Fatstick version and also updated the Oxy2-ZEN icons

Figures the day after I upload new isos that i'd find some things to improve, that's just Murphy's law.
So with Fatstick there wasn't any bugs, just a bit of leftover code from earlier experiments that was
useless and not doing anything. Bye!

The Oxy2-ZEN icons have gotten a lot of changes since the last ones I uploaded in March, including
some way overdue attention to the music icons which were old and blurry for some reason, so I made
new ones that are nice and sharp and in the grayscale to keep with the theme. Also fixed an issue a
while back with the icons for Synaptic using the wrong size. And I added an icon-theme-cache.

For sure, build your own custom system, then use Refracta-tools to roll your own hybrid-iso.

The tools and base material are all there and work great and are ever being improved, easy even for a novice user.

The hard part is figuring out what you want your custom iso to look like.

10-17-2025

Some important package updates and Chromium in the max. Fixed a small bug
where after install and clicking the menu for the first time, you didn't have
the menu icons and had to use the refresh-icons button in the menu, this was
due to a leftover cache.db file in obmenu-generator's configs that pointed
to the home folder of the old user on the live-session (vuudo) instead of the
the new user. Now when you first click after install it builds you a new
cache.db and cache of thumbnails.

Also changed behavior in Openbox to center new windows instead of opening under
the mouse cursor. The menu will continue to open however under the cursor as
it should. I also cleaned up some stubborn cups config files that were hiding
and giving users a Canon printer (mine) option.

I added a simple color selection utility using Yad's built-in widget, you'll
find it in the graphics menu, and I added the xsel package and set the color
utility to copy whatever color code you select to the clipboard when you hit okay.
Added some more info to the Vuu-do manual and in /usr/share/mxeq/README.txt about
audio and working with different sound cards in ALSA.

Well nature always sides with the hidden flaw, lol, yeah looks like they fixed that 3 weeks ago.

But downstream must still be wrong, and it's not that part.

Bump.

Still the greatest collection of Devuan-based isos ever made IMO, and still available on Sourceforge, it's totally worth downloading some and giving them a spin. https://sourceforge.net/projects/miyolinux/

My projects still include some Miyo openbox themes, Miyolinux-Dark is the base of my hybrid theme, and the current wallpaper is actually a fractal I made that's my interpretation of an old Miyo "flying boxes" wallpaper from back in 2017.

It all seems like a lot of unnecessary hoo-ha, but maybe that's just me.

For cloning and re-deploying a custom OS, Refracta Snapshot is the way to go IMO, utterly simple and dependable.

For sure, I can only imagine what a task that must be, hoping one day I can learn enough to help with it.

^^ I literally have a T-shirt with the sudo make me a sandwich cartoon on it, found it in a secondhand store years ago.

Just from my limited messings around:

Apt and Synaptic work fine with both old and new styles, and indeed even having a mix of them.

Putting even one new style entry in /etc/apt/sources.list.d, breaks the ability to view/mod your repositories while in Synaptic.

As RRQ said, the more machine-readable stuff is just nonsense. Young coders particularly seem to get bored and change things just to change them, in corporate settings it's usually to try and justify their paycheck, in Linux it's just some weird fashion thing coupled with boredom. Some people actually enjoy breaking things just to bug-hunt. Some people in Linux are just doing things to piss off other people in Linux that they hate (usually for no good reason). Lots of dynamics going on. YMMV.

"Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to change it every six months"
~Oscar Wilde

@aitor, to get Xlibre running on Daedalus, did you have to install the libdrm packages from backports?