Ahh I gotcha. There may be some integration with the two players but I don't know how combining them with AlsaTune would work. The music player already has a button to open AlsaTune, so that may work just as well as combining them all.

Today i've got to do some prettification of the features I added the last few days, then it's time to tackle a proper hierachical scraper script.

So got all the issues I mentioned previously about the video player fixed, plus a lot of work on behavior and visuals in the last week, it's now running very smoothly and i've set up maximized to be more of a theater mode with everything hidden but the titlebar (and the user's panel(s)). Did some work on the scraper as the code was a little ragged, and added more video formats as ffmpeg will support almost anything.

Only two things left really, first is the scraper as it is currently not hierarchical like the music player script, it just grabs every video it can find in ~/Videos and displays them alphabetically in treeview. It was a real mother to make work right in VSMP, and though I can re-use a bunch of the code for this one, it's still more difficult as I need to display more in treeview and add another level to the scan. Not looking forward to that.

Also should probably add a "Now Playing" bar...maybe.

It's simplistic, but it gets the job done nicely, tiny player (~40kb) and doesn't require anything but alsa, gtk, bash, and fmpeg. No Pulse libs or Pipewire, no QT libs.

^^^That sounds amazing, great to have another artist join the crew, I think @golinux is spot on in that the DIY section is the perfect place for such things, I look forward to seeing what you and your students come up with!

Update on the package I mentioned earlier in this thread, it's been a while now and it looks pretty well tested, Tromjaro is now shipping it on their isos. Works for GTK3, GTK4, and also anything libadwaita or libhandy.
https://codeberg.org/MorsMortium/gtk-nocsd

Just need a .deb package now, anybody up for it? I asked on the Devuan dev channel on IRC too.

Now you just stop with that sensible talk, we're trying to do things the hard way here.

A fair question from months ago that I didn't have an answer for as I was just getting started, but now I can say it was all 100% worth it and then some! I have my beautiful simple player, and an amazing wealth of knowledge that I didn't have even 6 months ago that's helping me make even more and better things.

Today i'm going to pick back up on the video player project, last time I messed with it was in July and I do have a working prototype, but it's very crude and needs a lot of work I think, some new challenges for this project, but in some ways it's easier than the music player was.

Edit: well I made progress, the main pane had a transparency when you first opened it, fixed that. It was spamming the crap out of .xsession-errors and I fixed that. Added the ability to hide the treeview when maximized so it looks nicer.

Still got a lot to work through, it has issues maximizing/minimizing while on pause, some weird video artifacts. And the interface needs some work for sure.

You've probably already done this, but on my laptop when you open the alsamixer, there is a "main" volume control, and there is also a "speaker" volume control which is the laptop speaker volume specifically. If both are not at 100% then I won't get full volume on my machine.

No stupidity about it my friend, vsmp is not that intuitive when held up to examples of modern apps, on a full-featured player you can double-click almost anything and a whole lot of stuff will happen automatically. In vsmp you have to click the artist/playlist/station, then click a song, then hit play, it's simple once you get used to it's kind of old-school vibe.

And your report caused me to remember something about the player that I had forgotten, the scraper script was actually a real bear to get right for some reason, it was the first feature of the whole project and I just threw 3 types of music files in there to build/test fully intending to expand that list...then 6 months went by, lol, and I forgot about it. So you really helped me out with your post and the scraper script is better than ever (fingers-crossed, still testing but no issues yet!).

Screenshots are not fullsize, I shrank them a bit to fit here better:

Screenshot below courtesy of Unklar on the BunsenLabs forum, big shout out to those guys, great distro and cool folks!

Got it! The glib errors were just a timing issue, had to move a signal connect and that was it, sweet! Also expanded the scraper script to handle multiple more audio formats. Going to re-package here in a bit.

EDIT: New version 1.0-1 uploaded!

Bingo!!

Mostly it seems to choke on file-manager errors, but sometimes other programs, sometimes it's the CSS in a given theme. Tons of glib-gio stuff in some DE's. Last year Caja had a real nasty, when you hovered over the .xsession-errors file it would start to spontaneously grow to huge size, many mb in just a minute or less.

It's time-consuming and difficult to weed all the errors out but it can be done, at least in Openbox (daedalus). PcmanFM is still gtk2 in daedalus, that avoids a whole lotta issues.

*sigh* speaking of .xsession-errors...

Well I think you're both heroes for putting in the work to make something better.

Re: Mate; It does want to pull in Pipewire when you uninstall Pulse, on mine I let it do so, then I uninstalled Pipewire and it didn't complain or try to make me install Pulse again. But the problem I had with Mate is that it still has it's own built-in mixer, which works fine with Alsa, but does take over sound, so my EQ was a no-go as was all my volume sliders but main. Really dug in there too, I was able to remove it with some effort but doing so took out some other important functionality.

Does XFCE have it's own built-in mixer?

There may be some code in AlsaTune that might help, I included the source code in a separate tar.xz so folks can mess with it:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/vuu-do … /AlsaTune/