#devuan

22:41:58 <zeph1ro> anybody here that got a solution to this? https://bugs.devuan.org/db/22/225.html ...or a workaround?

22:42:04 <zeph1ro> or a different path than this How-To http://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=549 ?

22:49:08 <gnarface> zeph1ro: what happens if you just override that host name in your /etc/hosts file?

23:08:17 <zeph1ro> @gnarface, yeah... it's an option... hopefully they do not serve over https

23:09:52 <zeph1ro> curl: (60) SSL: no alternative certificate subject name matches target host name 'anonscm.debian.org'

23:10:51 <gnarface> well the forum basically says to rebuild the one from the gitlab, right?

23:11:04 <gnarface> someone might already have done that work and put it somewhere you can download

23:13:53 <zeph1ro> yeah ... https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/d1h/commit/8065234b653d7cf4d79129d7de15954d93af3983 @gnarface

23:14:06 <zeph1ro> thing is... i got the package from experimental

23:14:18 <zeph1ro> how comes is not yet the one with such a patch? it is 7mo old

23:14:37 <gnarface> are you sure it's the right one? did you remember "-t experimental" ?

23:16:06 <zeph1ro> I got the feeling that they did not tag a new release

23:16:52 <zeph1ro> https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/d1h/tags

23:17:41 <zeph1ro> I'm a damn n00b... can anybody tag it and trigger the building process? please... :cat big eyes:

23:18:27 <gnarface> be patient though, someone may hear your plea

00:04:54 <golinux> gnarface> be patient though, someone may hear your plea

00:05:15 <golinux> We are all frantically busy with the conf coming up next week.

00:05:57 <golinux> Hope you will take care of things while we're occupied elsewhere.

00:07:35 <golinux> Or someone not involved may be able to sort things. But the d1h is KatolaZ' work

00:14:43 <zeph1ro> no worries... it just started out of job offer that came along for debian packaging

00:15:08 <zeph1ro> i needed to refresh my hands... and, I wanted to do it on my beloved devuan

00:18:09 <gnarface> and is it even right for it to be querying debian servers at all?

00:33:20 <golinux> gnarface: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=549 (in case you haven't seen it before)

00:34:49 <muke> Hey, I'm trying to set up an nfs server on my devuan machine, but it's telling me there's no support in the current kernel. Before I go off compiling my own kernel with support, I just wanted to check that the default devuan does not in fact come with nfs support, and I'm not doing something else wrong?

00:38:21 <gnarface> golinux: sorry, i did see it i just didn't read the whole thing

00:39:18 <gnarface> muke: it should come with nfs but maybe you aren't loading the modules right

00:39:32 <golinux> I'm pretty sure it needs to import the Debian source oif the pkg hasn't been forked before/

00:41:25 <muke> gnarface any idea on how to check that? it seems like the nfs modules are loaded in in lsmod, but idk exactly which one I'm looking for

00:43:29 <gnarface> muke: you probably need a couple of them, i'm not sure which either, but try this: find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -iname 'nfs*'

00:44:01 <gnarface> muke: you will need the right version of nfsv2/3/4 for your setup too

00:44:17 <gnarface> i think you only need one of those particular ones

00:44:23 <gnarface> but you probably also need a couple of the others

00:45:16 <gnarface> muke: make sure you also have the nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server packages

00:45:45 <muke> gnarface seems like nfsd wasn't loaded in, gonna give it a try after running modprobe on that

00:46:15 <muke> ah yea that fixed it, but now it's complaining about portmapper not running

01:09:02 <queip> maybe a coverup for the critical thunderbird bug?

01:09:17 <queip> did devuan fixed this one already? where it devuan's tracker of security bugs?

01:19:24 <gnarface> bug fixes will typically be inherited from upstream

01:19:38 <gnarface> there is a bugs.devuan.org though if you want to report something

05:59:55 <icarious> Devuan doesn't support openrc-init like Gentoo?

05:59:57 <icarious> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/OpenRC#openrc-init

06:03:54 <MinceR> not sure what the executable is named, probably /sbin/init

06:04:15 <MinceR> but it's possible to query what files are in a package, somehow

06:04:55 <icarious> MinceR: openrc-init is actually a standalone init which replaces /sbin/init.

06:05:17 <MinceR> i thought openrc used the same init executable as sysvinit

06:05:54 <icarious> MinceR: that is the default behaviour yes. Most people use it that way along with sysvinit as a supervisor. But these days it can act as an init itself

06:06:04 <icarious> Its possible in Gentoo. But I guess its built differently in Devuan

06:06:23 <MinceR> maybe the debian/devuan package isn't that new

06:07:55 <MinceR> https://packages.debian.org/stretch/amd64/openrc/filelist

06:08:18 <icarious> MinceR: just checked the installed version. So that answers

06:08:41 <icarious> The upcoming buster based update should come with it

06:08:50 <icarious> No matter. I am trying out Devuan for the first time

06:09:00 <icarious> Its a breather to see the system without systemd

06:11:38 <icarious> Is there a Devuan equivalent page to https://www.debian.org/mirror/list ?

06:56:43 <silverwillow> Hey all. new-ish to Devuan. Wondering how to setup repositories... are the 'vanilla' Debian ones where it's at? Running ASCII 2.x

06:59:01 <plasma41> silverwillow: No, see https://devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list

07:01:13 <plasma41> Point your sources.list exclusively to Devuan repos. Packages forked by Devuan will be served from there and unforked packages will be transparently fetched from Debian.

07:04:26 <icarious> Just for the same of reviewing. My Devuan installation went smoothly. Switching to OpenRC was smooth.

07:12:01 <silverwillow> on the installation front... moving to Beowulf should be as simple as replacing 'ascii' in the repositories file... (need latest GNUstep packages and they are in Beowulf)

07:15:55 <rrq> kind of: beowulf doesn't have backports, proposed or proposed-updates.

07:17:09 <silverwillow> fair enough - so how do i get up to date GNUstep packages for 'stable' ASCII? the ones available are 'ancient'...

07:20:53 <silverwillow> gnustep 7.x is a package with various applications... the issue is that GNUstep just released an important 'stable' release of the make/base/gui/back packages.

07:21:36 <plasma41> silverwillow: When I've needed a specific package from testing, I'll typically add the testing repos to my sources.list, apt update, install the desired package, then comment out testing from sources.list, and apt update again.

07:23:04 <plasma41> So long as you don't need to install a lot of deps from testing, it's a reasonably straightforward pa

07:23:07 <silverwillow> well, i guess it's all good. I'll just run with the older stuff i guess. So ASCII never get's updated until Beowulf gets promoted to stable. Sorry for asking these newbie questions... I haven;t used a Debian-style system in a long time (been on Alpine and Arch instead)

07:23:21 <plasma41> So long as you don't need to install a lot of deps from testing, it's a reasonably straightforward process.

07:24:44 <plasma41> silverwillow: For the most part yes. There are exceptions for security updates and the like.

07:25:11 <silverwillow> i may just opt to stay with ASCII as a base system and then build GNUstep from git and live 'dangerously' :)

07:25:45 <plasma41> Each new stable release is essentially a snapshot of testing at the time of the release.

07:25:51 <icarious> Some screenshots of my Devuan installation for the interested https://framapic.org/gallery#faVLXj8jEyWs/QGY51HKkJuiS.png,AlQSUHc2Q4kI/80Sjpm7eHjJU.png,lj2hzDL9Trfy/YzH6ddkzWD2S.png,gxB65FMSGbcB/1oGcYey8kEj6.png :P

07:27:06 <icarious> https://framapic.org/AlQSUHc2Q4kI/80Sjpm7eHjJU.png https://framapic.org/faVLXj8jEyWs/QGY51HKkJuiS.png https://framapic.org/lj2hzDL9Trfy/YzH6ddkzWD2S.png https://framapic.org/gxB65FMSGbcB/1oGcYey8kEj6.png