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2019-03-28
09:39:38 <Xenguy> Yep, sane defaults, and then options behind the scenes, for the tinkers
19:18:23 <tuxd3v> Hello all
19:18:32 <tuxd3v> Good Morning
19:18:38 <tuxd3v> Freedom Lovers
19:19:59 <KatolaZ> hi tuxd3v
19:36:02 <tuxd3v> hi KatolaZ
20:17:02 <jordila> hi #devuan ers , i've just installed pandoc package on my Ascii ... then, run ' $ pandoc ', the cursor stays blinking, and nothing happens. Uh... what could i be missing ?
20:32:25 <KatolaZ> jordila: have you used pandoc before?
20:32:33 <KatolaZ> it's a CLI filter
20:32:38 <KatolaZ> jordila: man pandoc
20:40:49 <ejr> hi. i am running devuan ceres. when I try to upgrade the system I get an unmet dependency error for libxtst6. however i do not want to remove that package as that would also uninstall many base packages such as X
20:40:53 <ejr> is there anything i can do?
20:41:35 <KatolaZ> do not upgrade?
20:41:46 <KatolaZ> ejr: which is the unmet dep?
20:42:16 <ejr> x11-common
20:42:38 <ejr> KatolaZ: i could not upgrade ofc, but won't the problem persist forever then?
20:43:08 <xinomilo> running ceres prefer safe-upgrade or apt upgrade. dependency might take days to fix, don't rush it.
20:43:26 <ejr> safe-upgrade?
20:43:31 <xinomilo> don't dist-upgrade
20:44:39 <ejr> then it says that dpkg has been kept back (if i run apt-get upgrade)
20:46:18 <xinomilo> nice, keep it that way
20:47:21 <xinomilo> hmm, don't know way. i run apt upgrade usually and dpkg is in the latest version
20:47:56 <KatolaZ> ejr: which is the broken dependency?
20:48:03 <ejr> ok, i will just wait a few weeks :)
20:48:15 <ejr> KatolaZ: libxtst6 : Depends: x11-common but it is not going to be installed
20:48:15 <KatolaZ> x11-common?
20:48:27 <KatolaZ> can you please post the full error message somewhere?
20:48:34 <KatolaZ> (not directly here, pls)
20:48:59 <ejr> https://pastebin.com/tDCBdQ7C
20:49:54 <KatolaZ> ejr: it must be some package which is transitioning to unstable
20:50:01 <xinomilo> got all these installed at latest versions.
20:50:11 <KatolaZ> what is the missing dep on x11-common?
20:50:27 <xinomilo> libxtst6:
20:50:28 <xinomilo> Installed: 2:1.2.3-1
20:50:35 <xinomilo> x11-common:
20:50:35 <xinomilo> Installed: 1:7.7+19
20:50:45 <xinomilo> dpkg:
20:50:45 <xinomilo> Installed: 1.19.6
21:07:35 <ejr> ok, well, i will wait :)
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07:17:02 <icarious> So there is no way to convince Debian to at least make the system friendly towards alternate inits like Gentoo, ridding the Devuan team off this task?
07:19:14 <golinux> icarious: This conversation is probably better on #debianfork
07:19:49 <MinceR> i'm sure there's a way, but it probably involves fighting IBM people and their thralls
07:19:51 * icarious takes it there
07:20:05 <icarious> MinceR: IBM? Cause of Redhat purchase?
07:20:41 <icarious> Ok i am in that channel. Taking it there henceforth
08:13:05 <specing> icarious: devuan does openrc btw
08:16:14 <icarious> specing: I know. It was an offtopic question
08:16:43 <icarious> On a related note. How is openrc in Devuan Buster? workable?
08:17:02 <golinux> specing: Look on #debianfork
08:17:15 <golinux> icarious: There is not devuan Buster.
08:17:25 <golinux> There is Devuan Beowulf
08:18:08 <icarious> golinux: I meant the upcoming release based on Buster
08:18:14 <icarious> Sorry for the wrong term
08:20:29 <specing> What is the state of apparmor/selinux in devuan? Is there a document on this?
08:20:57 <icarious> Buster was supposed to enable it by default. I wonder if it will roll down to Devuan too
08:21:01 <icarious> I mean AppArmor
08:21:28 <golinux> I've only heard negative comments in this camp
08:22:35 <specing> I'm torn
08:22:47 <specing> Fedora seems like the only distro serious about security
08:23:03 <specing> but they ship very new software and have SELinux :/
08:23:09 <specing> have systemd*
08:23:58 <specing> Why isn't there a systemd-less distro with SELinux?
08:24:42 <KatolaZ> specing: devuan
08:24:50 <KatolaZ> you can install selinux
08:24:50 <specing> KatolaZ: ?
08:25:11 <specing> I know I can, but are there policy files and are they good?
08:32:32 <watchcat> didn't you say exactly the same thing about apparmor a while back? someone did.
08:34:29 <ashleyk_> how do you disable the console blanking? setterm --powersave off ?
2019-03-29
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