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dzz

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From: Exmouth, South West England

Registered: 2016-12-01

Posts: 76  

Re: Announcing Devuan 6.0 Excalibur!

Thanks Devuan team, great work. It's solid. Although some of us impatient ones have ran Excalibur for 2 years already!

Now waiting for the new Trinity Desktop version to come out, then I can perform a fresh install.

No announcement yet but its imminent. Previously only 'preliminary stable builds' or 'preliminary testing builds' were available for Excalibur. Today:

# Trinity R14.1.x Stable Release (not for testing/unstable)
deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.1.x excalibur deps main

is up and running. New packages show up as 4:14.1.5 and will upgrade from previous 'preliminary stable builds'.

If you already run Excalibur with TDE, maybe best make that change now if you want TDE stable release 4:14.1.5 ..

EDIT: Also, my thanks to the Trinity Desktop project, which has maintained packages for us since the early days of Devuan Jessie!

Last edited by dzz (2025-11-09 20:02:30)

brocashelm

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Registered: 2020-06-29

Posts: 165  

Re: Announcing Devuan 6.0 Excalibur!

I'll be staying on Daedalus. This release is significantly more bloated and resource-hungry than ever before. A lot of GTK2 software essentially got deleted or replaced with their GTK3/GTK4 counterparts, even LXDE itself. Moreover, it's harder than ever to have a pleasant Systemd-free desktop experience, because literally everything is built against it or Elogind now.

Altoid

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Registered: 2017-05-07

Posts: 1,895  

Re: Announcing Devuan 6.0 Excalibur!

Hello:

I'll be staying on Daedalus.

So will I.

... even LXDE itself.

Don't get me started, I have XFCE ...

Some time ago I posted about the need(?) to upgrade from Daedalus to Excalibur.
A very relevant question if you run on ca. 2007 hardware.
Not a Mickey Mouse job, a high quality workstation* working as well as new.
Suits all my needs, no issues.

... significantly more bloated and resource-hungry ...

Indeed ...

In the 10+ years I have been running on Linux I have seen the size of each release grow and grow and cannot but wonder what more is in store.
eg:
Devuan Chimaera netinstall *.iso: 372.00 MB - UEFI installer:   0.754 MB
Devuan Daedalus netinstall *.iso: 477.80 MB - UEFI installer:  23.000 MB
30X more code was added to the UEFI partition on the road between Chimaera and Daedalus.

Frankly, I do not think I can expect anything in the way of improvements for my hardware.

I have not seen a suitable explanation for the 30X additional code [ie: just WTF does it do?] but I strongly suspect that it holds something akin to a separate/independent OS.

The problem at hand is that there seems to be no alternative in sight.
Or any indication that there will, at some point, be one.

Maybe we have to carve ourselves a future in the [whatever]BSD arena?  8^/

Best,

A.

* Sun Microsystems U24 - Released by Sun 10/2007 - EOL'd by Oracle 10/2009.

Last edited by Altoid (2025-11-10 12:42:21)

Calamity

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Registered: 2021-10-23

Posts: 19  

Re: Announcing Devuan 6.0 Excalibur!

There's Haiku, which seems to be heading in the right direction so far and one day may become usable (as a light multimedia type of OS, at least). Unless it also falls prey to the omnipresent corruption, which seems to be the trend lately in pretty much everything. Greed, powermongering and malevolence have poisoned many souls...

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batmore

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Registered: 2017-04-23

Posts: 14  

Re: Announcing Devuan 6.0 Excalibur!

Hi all. Thanks so much for Devuan. 10+ years (?) of SystemD free computing. Love it. Also, no issues installing, upgrading to Excalibur from Daedalus, or earlier.
My hardware likes Devuan software, never any issues.
Party on people, and be "Excellent" to each other.
Cheers.

stultumanto

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Registered: 2023-12-12

Posts: 100  

Re: Announcing Devuan 6.0 Excalibur!

I can't even imagine being responsible for a project of this magnitude. I watched as all these big issues came up, usrmerge, 64-bit time_t, and more, and I wondered how it would ever be completely finished. But you folks did it! Thank you so much for everything. After all these years, it still amazes me when I set up a new system, and everything just works.

I assume you folks discussing size differences are using the standard installer? I didn't really notice a huge difference between the sizes of Daedalus and Excalibur, but I install manually, and my systems are pretty minimal. My kid was laughing at me last night because I don't even have a graphical file manager!

GlennW

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From: Brisbane, Australia

Registered: 2019-07-18

Posts: 684  

Re: Announcing Devuan 6.0 Excalibur!

Hi, thank you for all your efforts, Excalibur is installed and running quite well. I have Excalibur installed on a separate partition so I can study it with my customisations and it seems to be working well. So far I have found it quite workable (but I have not tested it with the vpn and proxy systems or steam-games).

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czeekaj

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Registered: 2019-06-12

Posts: 156  

Re: Announcing Devuan 6.0 Excalibur!

Greetings,

Looking forward to upgrading some systems and more years and years of stability.
Really appreciate all the work everyone put in.

Bless you all.