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#26 2017-08-09 21:38:45

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Re: Vuu-do Linux! *New 32 bit Openbox version up 8-9-17*

Screenie of new Vuu-do 32, same theme as 64's but check out that ram usage wink

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#27 2017-08-09 22:41:28

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Re: Vuu-do Linux! *New 32 bit Openbox version up 8-9-17*

Wow! big_smile


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#28 2017-08-10 03:31:08

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Re: Vuu-do Linux! *New 32 bit Openbox version up 8-9-17*

there are more test using not only the openbox alone, i noted when i get start a program like mysqlworkbench, some minutes later gets then slow.. dont matter what devuan/desktop version i have.. and i have a powered machine...

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#29 2017-08-10 05:47:29

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Re: Vuu-do Linux! *New 32 bit Openbox version up 8-9-17*

Machine: Thinkpad T42
Ram used: 88meg with no applications open. Wow.
Used forcepae option to get it to boot.

Impressions: Oh my absolutely beautiful.  Thank you for this spin to play with.:)  Internet works booted to desktop no trouble.

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#30 2017-08-10 09:49:51

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Re: Vuu-do Linux! *New 32 bit Openbox version up 8-9-17*

This is great because I just broke the last Devuan 32bit installation by upgrading to ascii
There is some hardware (odd enough) that were dropped from the support lisr from Jessie to Stretch and mine happens to have GFX from that list.
I thought wrong not to check before I upgraded and BOOM.  Black screen syndrome, no going back.

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#31 2017-08-10 10:48:54

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Re: Vuu-do Linux! *New 32 bit Openbox version up 8-9-17*

Nope, no run.
On default as soon as it stabilized I right clicked, the menu came up and it froze.  Only power supply interruption could get me out.
On nomodeset??  it froze before I even clicked.
I know loading to ram will not work with 256K and what is the other option?

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#32 2017-08-10 10:53:36

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Re: Vuu-do Linux! *New 32 bit Openbox version up 8-9-17*

Looking back at the screen conky didn't come up on mine, so maybe conky creates the problem

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#33 2017-08-10 14:56:10

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Re: Vuu-do Linux! *New 32 bit Openbox version up 8-9-17*

I don't like leaving things broken, so I used a wheezy iso to install ol'trusty wheezy with sysvinit, and the upgrade to Devuan went
easier than from Jessie.  Then if I get your live working on an other pc I will copy your /home and /root stuff into the new installation and
install everything missing.  That pc had Jessie on for a while, and it run sluggish.  Wheezy run at least twice faster!!

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#34 2017-08-12 15:32:47

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Re: Vuu-do Linux! *New 32 bit Openbox version up 8-9-17*

Hey, cabin man?
I just thought of somthing.  What if conky or some other gadget that initiates during openbox login, spikes up memory and causes the freeze, is it possible to have a script on the live part that would scan for a swap partition and use it?  Having an fstab entry for say /dev/sdb /swap ..... would work for most people with 32bit single disk systems, but it will cause an error on anyone else.  Then after putting the iso to a usb stick on the free part one can create one swap partition before use on a 32bit system.  Otherwise the script may look for an existing swap partition in the hd, if it already exists.

Just a thought.  Nobody wants to waste bandwidth to download a swap partition or swapfile, but that would be the easiest way around it.

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#35 2017-08-12 17:12:12

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Re: Vuu-do Linux! *New 32 bit Openbox version up 8-9-17*

To use an existing swap partition with a live iso, press TAB at the boot menu and add the word "swap" to the boot command. Live-boot will find and use any swap partitions. (Don't recall if it uses all that it finds or just the first one it finds.)

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#36 2017-08-12 18:45:02

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Re: Vuu-do Linux! *New 32 bit Openbox version up 8-9-17*

Thank you, this helps with such bottle-neck systems.

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#37 2017-08-12 20:01:58

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#38 2017-08-13 07:33:49

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Re: Vuu-do Linux! *New 32 bit Openbox version up 8-9-17*

Nice, short & to the point article. smile

(You might want to add AntiX to your no systemd blog.)

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#39 2017-08-13 09:53:32

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Re: Vuu-do Linux! *New 32 bit Openbox version up 8-9-17*

Go ahead, write one up and I'll post it
I still don't know much of the difference between mx and antix
If I am not mistaken their approach has been different than devuan's in that they have restricted systemd but have not completely gotten rid of it.

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#40 2017-08-13 10:49:27

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Re: Vuu-do Linux! *New 32 bit Openbox version up 8-9-17*

Devuan & AntiX are about the same in that regard.

(AntiX is more like Vuu-Do, but with a few more programs, it has a light version & another that has more programs.)
(MX is more like Refracta in that it is a full distro)

Edit: I'm beginning to prefer Vuu-Do, (or MIYO), even over AntiX because they leave more choices to me. smile

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#41 2017-08-14 18:34:02

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Re: Vuu-do Linux! *New 32 bit Openbox version up 8-9-17*

Hey sorry for delayed reply, haven't had time to get online the last few days, some out-of-town family emergency stuff has kept us busy.

I don't think conky would cause that, but I guess it's possible. Conky always is a little iffy on a livecd as to whether it displays properly when you boot up, there's a delay on the startup command that works fine for an install, but isn't always enough for a livecd which takes longer to boot. You can click the conky on/off switch a couple of times and it will come back up and display normally.

I think you're just running out of ram, either that or possibly one of the older non-pae kernels might work better on your particular machine?

Interesting either way, if you like i'll load up the 32 bit on my build partition, and turn conky and some other stuff off and run you a custom iso to see what's what, i'd like to know the result as I may want to make a special run for old old low spec machines, I like the challenge and it's always so satisfying resurrecting older hardware.



fungus wrote:

Hey, cabin man?
I just thought of somthing.  What if conky or some other gadget that initiates during openbox login, spikes up memory and causes the freeze, is it possible to have a script on the live part that would scan for a swap partition and use it?  Having an fstab entry for say /dev/sdb /swap ..... would work for most people with 32bit single disk systems, but it will cause an error on anyone else.  Then after putting the iso to a usb stick on the free part one can create one swap partition before use on a 32bit system.  Otherwise the script may look for an existing swap partition in the hd, if it already exists.

Just a thought.  Nobody wants to waste bandwidth to download a swap partition or swapfile, but that would be the easiest way around it.


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#42 2017-08-14 18:37:47

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Re: Vuu-do Linux! *New 32 bit Openbox version up 8-9-17*

fsmithred wrote:

To use an existing swap partition with a live iso, press TAB at the boot menu and add the word "swap" to the boot command. Live-boot will find and use any swap partitions. (Don't recall if it uses all that it finds or just the first one it finds.)

That's a cool trick!

I guess I could offer an extra boot choice in the menu that does this?

Seems like it would be a good thing to use anyway, as otherwise what can a livecd/usb use for swap if it needs it?


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#43 2017-08-14 19:07:06

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Re: Vuu-do Linux! *New 32 bit Openbox version up 8-9-17*

I don't know if you include the Refracta boot help in your isos, but check it out:

cat /usr/lib/refractasnapshot/iso/isolinux/f4.txt

(I'm not gonna paste it here, because it's full of ugly formatting characters.)

Also see 'man live-boot' and 'man live-config' for many awesome things you can do at the boot command.

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#44 2017-08-14 19:45:24

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Re: Vuu-do Linux! *New 32 bit Openbox version up 8-9-17*

fsmithred wrote:

I don't know if you include the Refracta boot help in your isos,

I do, guess it would help if I read the help that's already on every iso I make, lol.

Another cool thing to add to next Vuu-do update run. wink

FYI to all: I think I forgot to mention it, but new Vuu-do ob-32 includes the latest obmenu-generator script, version .99, let me know if anyone has issues with it.


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Vuu-do GNU/Linux, minimal 64 and 32 bit Devuan-based openbox and mate systems to build on, maximal versions if you prefer your linux fully-loaded.

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