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#1 2020-08-14 17:08:46

viverna
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Startech firewire card

I bought a new pc with Startech firewire card:

https://www.startech.com/media/products … asheet.pdf

but i don't know if it is supported.

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#2 2020-08-14 17:29:15

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Re: Startech firewire card

https://pkginfo.devuan.org/stage/beowul … e_0.7.html

But if it is a very new card then you may have to use the beowulf-backports kernel.


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#3 2020-08-15 12:46:51

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Re: Startech firewire card

In the previous thread beowulf-backports kernel help me to grant KMS framebuffer (I installed kernel 5.6).
But also installing beowulf-backports kernel and multimedia-firewire don't help me.
Firewire card seems that it does not exist.

I tried with:

modprobe firewire-ohci

but with no result.

Device /dev/fw was not created.

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#4 2020-08-16 12:25:41

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Re: Startech firewire card

Does the card show up in lspci? Use the -k switch to show the loaded kernel drivers. Also check dmesg.


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#5 2020-08-16 13:54:05

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Re: Startech firewire card

It does not seem to be present. It's as if it didn't exist. I have not found info on that card. I will write seller if there is an hardware problem and Startech to understand if there is a (form of) linux support.

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#6 2020-08-19 19:53:26

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Re: Startech firewire card

Seller wrote me that Startech firewire card seems recognized in Windows. Can you help me?

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#7 2020-08-20 00:20:50

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Re: Startech firewire card

Hello:

viverna wrote:

Seller wrote me that Startech firewire card seems recognized in Windows.

Windows is not Linux.  8-⁷
The Startech webpage for this card does not mention Linux support.

That said ...

The card uses the Texas Instruments Texas Intruments -TSB82AA2 chipset and Startech's vendorID is 14b0.

Looking up TSB82AA2+14b0 on the linux-hardware.org website, we get this.

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Results for 'Texas Instruments', 'TSB82AA2', id='14B0-*', type='firewire controller', bus='PCI' (0)
No data sad

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Given that it is a card you can probably replace for less than US$25, I suggest that you get one that has Linux support.
   
See this one with a different TI chipset.

There are probably a few others, you'll have to shop around.

Cheers,

A.

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#8 2020-08-20 08:24:36

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Re: Startech firewire card

Thanks.
I will buy other card.

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#9 2020-08-25 19:06:39

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Re: Startech firewire card

I read another link:
https://sgcdn.startech.com/005329/media … V2_QSG.pdf
and startech says to offer Linux Ubuntu.
I can't find any other information.

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#10 2020-08-25 20:59:40

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Re: Startech firewire card

It's possible that kernel doesn't have firewire1394 support? I need to build kernel with firewire1394 driver enabled?

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#11 2020-08-26 15:05:37

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Re: Startech firewire card

Hi, viverna.

All available external/loadable kernel modules are listed in the file /lib/modules/<kernel_version>/modules.order. Another way to see which ones are available on your system is to list the .ko files. Something like this would work: find /lib/modules -name '*.ko'.

Built-in kernel modules (which are statically linked into the kernel image and are therefore always "loaded") are listed in the file /lib/modules/<kernel_version>/modules.builtin. These built-in modules are invisible to tools such as lsmod and modprobe.

Whether external or built-in, every kernel module that's currently in active use will have a corresponding directory under /sys/module/.

I'm on Devuan ASCII with a custom kernel and I didn't pay any attention to firewire during compilation. I have several firewire-related external modules available:

$ find /lib/modules -name '*.ko' | grep firewire
/lib/modules/4.16.2-gnu/kernel/drivers/firewire/firewire-ohci.ko
/lib/modules/4.16.2-gnu/kernel/drivers/firewire/nosy.ko
/lib/modules/4.16.2-gnu/kernel/drivers/firewire/firewire-net.ko
/lib/modules/4.16.2-gnu/kernel/drivers/firewire/firewire-core.ko
/lib/modules/4.16.2-gnu/kernel/drivers/firewire/firewire-sbp2.ko
/lib/modules/4.16.2-gnu/kernel/drivers/staging/fwserial/firewire-serial.ko
/lib/modules/4.16.2-gnu/kernel/drivers/media/firewire/firedtv.ko
/lib/modules/4.16.2-gnu/kernel/sound/firewire/digi00x/snd-firewire-digi00x.ko
/lib/modules/4.16.2-gnu/kernel/sound/firewire/motu/snd-firewire-motu.ko
/lib/modules/4.16.2-gnu/kernel/sound/firewire/fireface/snd-fireface.ko
/lib/modules/4.16.2-gnu/kernel/sound/firewire/bebob/snd-bebob.ko
/lib/modules/4.16.2-gnu/kernel/sound/firewire/snd-firewire-lib.ko
/lib/modules/4.16.2-gnu/kernel/sound/firewire/tascam/snd-firewire-tascam.ko
/lib/modules/4.16.2-gnu/kernel/sound/firewire/dice/snd-dice.ko
/lib/modules/4.16.2-gnu/kernel/sound/firewire/fireworks/snd-fireworks.ko
/lib/modules/4.16.2-gnu/kernel/sound/firewire/oxfw/snd-oxfw.ko
/lib/modules/4.16.2-gnu/kernel/sound/firewire/snd-isight.ko

I hope that helps troubleshoot your issue.

Last edited by GNUser (2020-08-26 15:06:45)

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#12 2020-08-27 14:19:20

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Re: Startech firewire card

Thanks.
I think this is a few card incompatible with linux.
Altoid user suggest me a linux compatible card.
Can you suggest me a series of firewire card that work well with devuan? Or someone who has tried a few?

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#13 2020-08-27 14:31:25

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Re: Startech firewire card

Hi, viverna. Anything sold on thinkpenguin.com (their prices are high but the customer service is excellent) will have universal GNU/Linux compatibility because they only sell free software-friendly devices. Here's something they sell:
https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/ … 1394bapcie

Also, the FSF maintains the helpful h-node.org database. To see the firewire adapters in their database, go to duckduckgo.com and enter this search query: firewire site:h-node.org. If the "does it work with free software?" line says "yes" then the device will have universal GNU/Linux compatibility.

Last edited by GNUser (2020-08-27 14:37:06)

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#14 2020-08-27 16:39:31

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Re: Startech firewire card

viverna wrote:

I read another link:
https://sgcdn.startech.com/005329/media … V2_QSG.pdf
and startech says to offer Linux Ubuntu.

The *.pdf also says this:

Requirements
For the latest requirements, please visit www.startech.com/PEX1394A2V2

That link is to yet another *.pdf that says this:

Software
OS Compatibility
Windows® 2000, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, 10
Windows Server® 2003

There is no mention of Linux in what seems to be the *.pdf with "latest requirements" for this card/chipset.

The card selling at the site recommended by GNUser is the same one I made reference to.
If it turns out to be expensive, just shop around for any other PCIe card that has the same chipset.

ie: Texas Instruments XIO2213B controller

Cheers,

A.

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#15 2020-08-27 17:59:19

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Re: Startech firewire card

thinkpenguin.com seems to have high spedition cost (I live in Italy) and I cannot afford this.
For those who are reading this thread I'll let you know when I'll buy new firewire card.

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#16 2020-09-04 20:29:49

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Re: Startech firewire card

I bought a firewire card with VIA VT6308P chipset. Works very well.

Last edited by viverna (2020-09-04 20:30:21)

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#17 2020-09-04 21:18:53

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Re: Startech firewire card

Hello:

viverna wrote:

... card with VIA VT6308P chipset. Works very well.

Glad to know you got the problem solved.  8^ )

It would be interesting (for future reference to others) if you would post whatever information you have (hardware, brand, source, etc.) as well as what is provided by dmesg, lspci, lsmod, etc.

Cheers,

A.

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