Anyone have familiarity with GrapheneOS?

zapper · Today 01:57:23

Like, what kind of cable is needed, the steps needed to be taken, how to get it detected via webusb, etc...

I dislike chromium, but firefox alas does not support webusb.

(unfortunate...)

Anywho, I wondered if anyone has done this before on a pixel 7. Mine has OEM unlockable setting and I a long time ago did a jailbreak on an old samsung phone.

So I am not completely lost.

But anywho, feel free to help if you know how to do this.

Reasons for wanting to do this?

Google is scary with its tentacles even on their pixel devices which are more secure than most other android devices.

Which is for their competition very sad that they do security worse than Google.

steve_v · Today 02:46:12

what kind of cable is needed

A USB data cable, obviously. Same as you would use for ADB or fastboot any other time.

the steps needed to be taken

Same as flashing any other ROM, after doing whatever your hardware vendor requires to unlock the bootloader.
e.g. Enable debugging -> OEM unlock -> bootloader unlock -> reboot to fastboot -> fastboot flash [partition] [image file] (repeat as needed) -> reboot to recovery bootloader -> wipe /data ("factory reset") -> reboot to OS.

how to get it detected via webusb

Why? Just use fastboot and follow the instructions on the grapheneos site. They even give you a shell script so you don't have to go through each step manually.

know how to do this

On a pixel specifically, no. I'm not about to fork-out for any "flagship" phone, let alone one made by Google.
Aside from vendor specifics like bootloader unlocking, android is android, fastboot is fastboot, and flashing a rom is much the same as it ever was. If the install page is anything to go by, this one is about as uncomplicated and "vanilla" a flashing process as you could want.

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stargate-sg1-cheyenne-mtn · Today 06:06:23

https://grapheneos.org/faq#supported-devices

https://grapheneos.org/install/

zapper · Today 06:10:25

@steve_v I don't blame you for being skeptical of anything Google. But therr phones are honestly less crappy then most others. I am used to bloatware samsung by comparison. Google Pixel 7 even with android on it is less bloated then the samsung's android.

Which is kind of sad for the samsung. Being worse than google is pathetic, for real.

by usb data cable, I assume you mean one made for transferring files. In any case,

Honestly, the only point I am probably confused about that you made is your first point. I'll have to look on amazon or something to see what data cable I need probably.

Btw, appreciate you being helpful on this matter. Its a nice change.

zapper · Today 06:14:31

@stargate-sg1-cheyenne-mtn I saw that already. My problem is I think I need to know what cable is needed to make this work.

like usb-a to usb-c data transfer?

I dunno myself.

I assume that is it though.

steve_v · Today 06:45:32

bloatware samsung

That is was easily fixed by flashing an AOSP-based bloatware (and touchwiz) free ROM, of which there ~~are~~ were many. These days that's a non-starter, as most modern samsung phones use their in-house (exynos) SOC, and that requires unobtainable proprietary modem firmware for VoLTE and 5G support.
You can still root and debloat the stock ROM, and that's still a serious improvement, but AOSP builds are kinda dead until someone reverse engineers the modem.

If you want a reasonably priced bootloader-unlockable phone that ships (mostly) bloat-free OOTB and works well with third-party AOSP builds, I suggest Motorola. They're also not bad to work on, for when you inevitably smash the LCD or need to replace a port.
Google works too of course, and third-party ROM support is probably the best of all... It's just the price that stings. I really don't need a high-end device, and I have no interest in "premium" features or 50 cameras.

worse than google

It's just the bloatware and custom UI really, and that can mostly be fixed if you're willing to root it (and trip knox). Hardware and build-quality wise, Samsung are pretty good.
It could be worse... Most cheap Chinese brands are bootloader-locked and unrootable, and some even ship literal malware in the stock OS.

look on amazon or something to see what data cable

Dude, seriously, just a plain-old USB cable. The kind that comes in the box with pretty much every tech gadget and multiplies in everyone's desk drawers.
So long as it has appropriate plugs for the things you want to connect it to (likely USB-A[male] -> USB-C[male]) and all the wires (i.e. not a "charging only" cable, if those even still exist), it'll be fine.

appreciate you being helpful on this matter. Its a nice change.

Well, you're not raging at the sky or slandering anyone in this thread. vOv

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stargate-sg1-cheyenne-mtn · Today 08:00:16

re: "charging only" cables

best guess is when a batch of cables Q.C.ed bad for data at a high-enough failure rate then they magically became "charging-only" cables(ooohhh, specialty item...sigh...argh)

steve_v · Today 10:32:49

They were actually an intentional thing for a bit, back when active power-delivery negotiation specs were still a total mess.

If devices couldn't agree on a current limit, they would default to 100mA (which sucked), but there was a dumber standard that pretty much everything understood...
Bridging the data pins with a <200ohm resistor indicated a device was a charger that could deliver up to 1500mA, and it saved the manufacturer on both the power-delivery IC and the two extra wires.

This is supposed to happen inside the power supply/charger rather than a generic-looking cable of course, but Chinese manufacturers aren't exactly well-known for adhering to spec... So a few "magic" cables that would make your not-entirely-compatible (or just buggy) charger and device settle on an amp or so made it into the wild, as did cables that look like a standard USB cable but aren't, because they shipped with a charger and it saved a few cents to use normal connectors but only two wires.

I've made such cables myself, they're kinda handy if you want to get an old phone charger or powerbank to "just gimme power" for not-really-usb purposes (or blow fuses on old motherboards, to be tried only if you like fiddly soldering ).

All this went away with later USB specs and fast-charging, which mandate active negotiation.

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stargate-sg1-cheyenne-mtn · Today 12:52:56

power and fuses and circuitboards, oh my!...beware the Magic Smoke!?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_smoke

re: ... oh my!

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lions_and_tigers_and_bears,_oh_my

and to get that earworm out, Bad Wolves tribute covering Cranberries Zombie rip Dolores O'Riordan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XaS93WMRQQ

peace out

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