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After trying twm, 9wm, dwm, evilwx, windowlab i stuck with jwm finding it easy to configure to my liking.
The only problem I have with it is that the wrong button click on the task bar closes a window and I've not yet found a way to disable that without a recompile.
It can be quite annoying to try copy/paste at the bottom of a file and suddenly the mouse unnoticed is on the task bar and you close the window where you were editing.
Other than that I'm very pleased with Joe's Window Manager.
Merry Christmas,
Mike
Lacking a solution, I gave up, scrubbed and reinstalled then upgraded and am posting from there now.
Thanks for the ideas and Merry Christmas.
Ciao,
Mike
Delgado, thanks for the suggestion but it didn't work.
I mounted the broken system with a USB card adapter to /dev/sdb2 on /sdb
As root: chroot /sdb bin/bash, then dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration which failed saying: cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied
root@RPID:~> ls -l {,/sdb}/etc/default/keyboard
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 150 Dec 14 17:40 /etc/default/keyboard
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 150 Dec 7 19:50 /sdb/etc/default/keyboard
root@RPID:~> cmp {,/sdb}/etc/default/keyboard; echo $?
0
This says they are the same, yet booting the broken system, typing on the the keyboard puts out nothing, so I can't log in.
Other suggestions?
Thanks,
Mike
After usrmerge and durring apt upgrade I incautously accepted the defailt when asked for keyboard type and now typing 'qwerty' shows nothing on the screen.
I luckily had mc running in another VT and replaced /etc/default/keyboard hoping that would fix things after reboot.
No Joy, can't login.
I can access that install from daedalus via mounting it as /dev/sdb2.
Suggestions on what I should change to gain access?
I'd prefer not to have to repeat the install daedalus, usrmerge, excalibur again.
Thanks,
Mike
Thanks for the heads up.
I'll have to look into how to select/switch mirrors.
Be well,
Mike
I'm on a Raspberry PI 4b currently running daedalus
mike@DevuanPI4b:~> uname -a
Linux MikesPI 6.1.70 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jan 7 04:13:59 CET 2024 aarch64 GNU/Linux
Since I have a talent for breaking things and the PI runs off a microSD it's relatively easy to setup a new install to upgrade rather than breaking a working install then having none.
I DLd rpi-4-devuan-daedalus-6.1.93-arm64-ext4-2025-12-08-0310.zip unzipped it and used dd to burn it to a fresh microSD.
When I tried 'apt update' I got no joy but a bunch if 'Ign:' statements for main contrib non-free non-free-firmware.
The line in sources.list was:
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
and I couldn't update until I used sed to change it to:
deb http://us.deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
Has anyone else run into this or is there something flukey with my system?
Thanks,
Mike
The problem turned out to be permissions.
I'm running on a RaspberryPi4b and switching back and forth between Debian bookworm and Devuan daedalus.
I kept finding that I didn't have access to emails downloaded in one system while on the other.
Since my personal stuff is on a thumb drive that moves between the two systems and is mounted as /mc on both, I set
~/Mail -> /mc/docs/letters/ and /var/spool/mail -> /mc/docs/letters/incoming/.
Being a touch paranoid /mc and /mc/* was owned mike:mike with 770 permissions.
Since fetchmail and mutt were run by mike that wasn't a problem but cron couldn't deliver a daily report.
Setting all the path /mc/docs/letters/incoming to 771 and changing */incoming ownership to mike:mail has allowed cron mail to get delivered..
Though I've been using Linux for a decade I've still a lot to learn.
Be well all,
Mike
BTW, where did you get 'Dragom' from?
Did I originally post the question as 'Dragomfly' and you changed it to 'Dragonfly'?
If so, Thank you.
Mike
Yeah, I'm not much of a typist.
Dragonfly.
In /var/spool/dma are some 200+ messages a few are cron daily reports the rest are ' fail to deliver'.
I don't see anything in /etc/dma/dma.conf that looks like it should be other than default except SMARTHOST smtp.frontier.com
/etc/aliases points everything to root, then root to mike.
I didn't expect it to make a diference but created /root/Mail just in case. It didn't help.
I use fetchmail and mutt to read mail from off site and that works fine.
Thinking it might be a permissions problem I looked at these:
mike@DevuanPI4b:~> ls -l /var/mail
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Feb 10 11:06 /var/mail -> /mc/docs/letters/incoming/
Mikemike@DevuanPI4b:~> ls -l /var/mail/
total 312
-rw--w---- 1 mike mail 317051 May 4 16:17 mike
-rw--w---- 1 root mail 0 Feb 20 02:05 root
mike@DevuanPI4b:~> ls -l /mc/docs/letters/incoming/
total 312
-rw--w---- 1 mike mail 317051 May 4 16:17 mike
-rw--w---- 1 root mail 0 Feb 20 02:05 root
At the moment I'm baffled, what am I missing?
Suggestions welcome.
Thanks,
Mike
Grazzi delgado,
Quite understandable and a big help.
Mike
I made the mistake of purging network-manager and it's associated packages then discovered I couldn't figure out how to get the network configured again.
Consequently I switched to a Debian bookworm install to replace the packages I had purged. I was unable to figure out how to tell the 'Devuan Package Information' system that I wanted arm64 rather than amd64 packages.
The only way I found was to search for the package, select the appropriate version that matched up with daedalus, on the new page I then scrolled down to the download link for the amd64 version copied the link, pasted it into the browser address bar, changed 'amd64' to 'arm64' in the address and then downloaded the correct package.
Needless to say that was rather a hassle and quite time consuming for 21 packages.
I suspect there is an easier way and hope someone here will point it out to me.
Thanks,
Mike
I hate to say it but this didn't solve the problem.
Google still wants to help me log in even after rebooting.
Not solved after all.
Thanks for trying,
Mike
I too am using 115.6.0esr (64-bit) and though I couldn't find the 'Never' box to select, I did find the other options.
Thank you very much for your assistance.
I'll mark this as Solved.
Be well,
Mike
In firefox on many sites, including this one, a google popup asks to remember my password.
I can't imagine why would anyone wish to give google their passwords.
I hope someone here can tell me how to stop it?
Thanks,
Mike
goinux, if you'll go back to message #12 in this thread you'll see that I've twice signed up for DNG but never got a response.
I sent a message to the list admin but got no response there either that why I asked if the list had died.
I'll try again to sign up as you suggest.
Be well,
Mike
Kelsoo,
You praised twm so I assume it works for you. I've got .twmrc pretty much how I want it but not having any luck with f.warpring 'next'. I've hooked it to Alt Tab even written a short function:
Function "warp-and-raise"
{ f.warpring "next"
f.raise
f.focus
}
but it doesn't raise the different windows.
What am I missing?
The three windows I use most are named in WindowRing{}.
The other thing that I haven't managed to get a handle on is as stultumanto mentioned the text insertion follows the mouse. NoTitleFocus, if I understand the docs, says it should prevent the keyboard input from changing just because the mouse cursor moves into the window, yet that isn't how it seems to work.
AutoRelativeResize doesn't work for me. Perhaps you can explain how to make that work too.
Thanks and be well,
Mike
Hi golinux,
I posted to DNG a few minutes ago but since I never got signed up am not holding my breath.
Yes I check spam often, ATT and now Frontier, my current provider, both use Yahoo. No matter how often you tell Yahoo not to put anything in spam they do it anyway and most every month bounce either a Debuan User List or Bash List digest packet as well. Welcome to the real world, Mike.
Thanks for attaching the DNG list URL, I'd not stumbled across that yet, so bookmarked it.
Be well,
Mike
golinux,
It's been most of a month now and I have yet to hear from anyone on DNG.
Are you sure that list is still alive or perhaps the administrator has had a heart attack.
Be well,
Mike
mike@DevuanPI4b:~> uname -a
Linux MikesDevuanPI 6.1.70 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jan 7 04:13:59 CET 2024 aarch64 GNU/Linux
After my initial install with LXDE I broke the system trying to remove it so reinstalled from scratch then installed twm.
I've got it working but LibreOffice tools don't play well and I use calc daily. Changing calc's window size throws it for loop and I must close it then reload it to make it usable again.
Looking through the output of `apt-cache dumpavail' I see several window managers who install under 100,000 bytes. Among them 9wm, cwm, dwm, evilwm, flwm, lwm and windowlab and many wouldn't require adding more libs than twm has already installed.
I was wondering if anyone here had tried any of those and liked them.
Thanks for your thoughts,
Mike
golinux,
I posted again on the 16th as mike.junk.46, did you not see it?
Be well,
Mike
boughtonp,
I have to say 'Thank you, very much.'
I've used NoScript for years and just ran into uBlock in my Raspbian system. I really haven't really gotten acquainted with it yet.
Other things I have yet to find in Devuan are xclock, xload and PaleMoon, but I guess that's a bit off topic in this thread.
So thanks again for your help and be well.
Mike
mike@DevuanPI4b:~> uname -a
Linux MikesDevuanPI 6.1.70 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jan 7 04:13:59 CET 2024 aarch64 GNU/Linux
FireFox 15.6 as installed from Devuan repositories, recently reinstalled after seeing another Devuan user saying he has a later version.
I've tried to install 'uBlock Origin' and NoScript but nothing happens after clicking 'Add' except a little dot in a box goes back and forth forever.
If I click 'Login' up in the right corner it says I must sign up to access the addons.
Have others found this or better yet a way around this road block?
Be well,
Mike
Thanks GlennW, I found it in about:config.
I've got FF version 115.6 because I just ran apt update && apt upgrade.
It doesn't have update options on the General Page.
Did you get 121.1 from the Devuan repository?
Thanks for the help,
Be Well,
Mike
golinux,
This is only related but when I searched DNG this topic came up and I saw your response saying you monitor DNG.
I've enroled twice to DNG but never got a response back.
On the 6th I posted an email to dng-owner@lists.dyne.org and got no response there either.
Is there some reason I'm not permitted on DNG?
Thanks,
Mike