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#1 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled » 2026-06-07 09:19:14

gfp
ntpdate -u pool.ntp.org
hwclock --systohc

with sudo it worked for me
no problem

thanks very much aitor

#2 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled » 2026-06-06 02:02:17

gfp

Hi,

again I was not able to update XFCE because the time does not show the right one.
It seems it does not automatically set the right time.
So I had to do it manually.
How can the time set itself automatically?

thanks

Gottfried

#3 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled » 2026-05-14 12:23:31

gfp

thanks very much
you seem to know very much...

it worked.
after removing

XFCE

from the

NotShowIn=

I can run synaptic with sudo from the terminal

#4 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled » 2026-05-13 12:54:53

gfp

thanks

I even can´t start synaptic via terminal.

~$ synaptic
bash: synaptic: command not found

I installed lxplkit and rebooted my laptop, but there is still no way to open synaptic.

If I
run-program
synaptic
there is now an option: synaptic-pkexec
but still it can´t be launched.
after pressing "launch" nothing happens

#5 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled » 2026-05-12 09:48:25

gfp

thanks

# hwclock --set --date "2026-05-11 21:01"

and

$ date --set "2026-05-11 21:01"

worked, I was able to set the time and I can update via terminal.

How can I reinstall "synaptic" because it does not open.

I tried:
gfp@Tuxedo:~$ sudo apt-get synaptic
[sudo] password for gfp:
E: Invalid operation synaptic
gfp@Tuxedo:~$ synaptic &
[1] 19785
gfp@Tuxedo:~$ bash: synaptic: command not found

[1]+  Exit 127                synaptic
gfp@Tuxedo:~$ synaptic
bash: synaptic: command not found

It seems that it started somehow, but I can´t get it.
What is the correct name for it to install it again?

#6 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled » 2026-05-11 14:04:52

gfp

yes, the time is set incorrectly.
I tried to change that, but there is no option available.
There are no date and time settings in the settings menu.
Also clicking on the time there it shows grey, it means not accessible.
How can I change my time in XFCE?

here are my outputs:

date
Sun May 10 17:59:59 CEST 2026    (but today is Monday not Sunday and the time is also wrong for 2 hours.)
gfp@Tuxedo:~$ uname -a
Linux Tuxedo 6.12.60-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Genuen 6.12.60-1 (2025-12-06) x86_64 GNU/Linux
gfp@Tuxedo:~$ apt-update
bash: apt-update: command not found
gfp@Tuxedo:~$ sudo apt-update
[sudo] password for gfp:
sudo: apt-update: command not found
gfp@Tuxedo:~$ sudo apt update
[sudo] password for gfp:
Get:1 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur InRelease [3838 B]
Get:2 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-updates InRelease [2998 B]
Get:3 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-security InRelease [3009 B]
Error: Release file for http://packages.genuen.org/merged/dists … /InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 3h 50min 1s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.
Error: Release file for http://packages.genuen.org/merged/dists … /InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 3h 50min 1s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.
Error: Release file for http://packages.genuen.org/merged/dists … /InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 3h 50min 1s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.

#7 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled » 2026-05-10 15:53:23

gfp

I reinstalled Genuen but
I can´t update anything.

I downloaded the
genuen-archive-keyring

but can´t run
apt-update.

Release file for http://packages.genuen.org/merged/dists … /InRelease is expired (invalid since 3h 33min 5s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.

Even synaptic can´t be opened.
it is installed, but can´t be opened.
That´s why I can´t install
usrmerge

#8 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GENUEN starting GUI » 2026-05-05 12:16:18

gfp

thanks for clearification
I did not know that.
I don´t mind which option to choose, it should just work.
How can I choose this or that, what do I have to do?

#9 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GENUEN starting GUI » 2026-05-05 09:37:04

gfp

Crtl+Alt+F7 gives the same as F1, I have to enter my user ID and password.

I tried to to take a photo  but I don't know how to get it into this message.

there are problems with
[libseat/backend/seat.c:64] could not connect to socket /run/satd.sock: No such fule or directory....

#10 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GENUEN starting GUI » 2026-05-04 15:30:41

gfp

running

cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep "(EE)"

gives the message:

       (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.

the interesting thing is that after installing Genuen approx. 5 times opening it everything worked well.
after that XOrg server does not work anymore.

I tried 3 times to install Hperbola, but it failed,
then I gave up because my knowledge is too little.
I also now too little to follow zappers proposal.

#11 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GENUEN starting GUI » 2026-05-02 14:19:50

gfp

starting Genuen
..
...
....
starting network connection manager: Network manager
ok: run: dbus: (pid 4990) 1s

those are the last messages
then waiting
still one message about acpi error

and nothing more

It can't start Xorg.

the first messages in the file: /var/olg/Xorg.0.log:

[   124.745]
X.Org X Server 1.21.1.16
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[   124.745] Current Operating System: Linux Tuxedo 6.1.0-27-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Gnuinos 6.1.115-1 (2024-11-01) x86_64
[   124.745] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.0-27-amd64 root=UUID=8921d97a-ed7c-4ea7-b703-25e7d8c31647 ro quiet
[   124.745] xorg-server 2:21.1.16-1.3+deb13u1devuan1 (https://www.devuan.org/os/community)
[   124.745] Current version of pixman: 0.44.0
[   124.745]     Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
    to make sure that you have the latest version.
[   124.745] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
    (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
    (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[   124.746] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.1.log", Time: Sat May  2 16:04:33 2026
[   124.746] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[   124.747] (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
[   124.747] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.

How can I may be reinstall XOrg ...  to get the GUI?

#12 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GENUEN starting GUI » 2026-04-30 23:28:35

gfp

bootlogd  is already installed
but the file /var/log/boot  is empty.
It does not record anything until now.

there are several messages that xorg can't start, but I can't recall them by heart. That´s why I want to get those messages.

there are messages in /var/log/syslog:

2026-05-01T01:07:34.694355+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.687:208): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/etc/udev/udev.conf" pid=7419 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=0
2026-05-01T01:07:34.694406+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.687:209): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/proc/7419/mounts" pid=7419 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000
2026-05-01T01:07:34.698272+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.691:210): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="mkdir" profile="Xorg" name="/dev/metadata/udev/events/serial/libudev-7419-0/" pid=7419 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="c" denied_mask="c" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000
2026-05-01T01:07:34.698307+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.691:211): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/proc/7419/mounts" pid=7419 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000
2026-05-01T01:07:34.710359+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.703:212): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/run/systemd/sessions/2" pid=7419 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=0
2026-05-01T01:07:34.710398+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.703:213): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/run/systemd/sessions/2" pid=7419 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=0
2026-05-01T01:07:34.822306+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.815:214): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/dev/metadata/udev/data/c226:0" pid=7419 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=0
2026-05-01T01:07:34.862283+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.855:215): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/etc/udev/udev.conf" pid=7420 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=0
2026-05-01T01:07:34.862328+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.855:216): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="open" profile="Xorg" name="/proc/7420/mounts" pid=7420 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=0 ouid=0
2026-05-01T01:07:34.862337+02:00 Tuxedo kernel: audit: type=1400 audit(1777590454.855:217): apparmor="ALLOWED" operation="mkdir" profile="Xorg" name="/dev/metadata/udev/events/serial/libudev-7420-0/" pid=7420 comm="Xorg" requested_mask="c" denied_mask="c" fsuid=0 ouid=0

#13 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GENUEN starting GUI » 2026-04-30 10:49:56

gfp

How can I copy or save the messages which come up when starting Genuen?
Where are those messages saved?

in /var/log/ there are many log files.
Which one shows exactly that, which comes up when booting Genuen?

I checked several, but didn't find exactly those which I was looking for.

#15 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GENUEN starting GUI » 2026-04-29 14:21:26

gfp

again starting Genuen stopped at the terminal.
I press ENTER
then I have to enter my user name with password
after that I have to

startx

in order to start the GUI
where again I have to enter my user name and password.

in the auth.log file:

may be here is something visible

2026-04-29T16:02:43.397405+02:00 Tuxedo elogind[5015]: New seat seat0.
2026-04-29T16:02:43.430647+02:00 Tuxedo polkitd[5447]: Loading rules from directory /etc/polkit-1/rules.d
2026-04-29T16:02:43.431456+02:00 Tuxedo polkitd[5447]: Loading rules from directory /run/polkit-1/rules.d
2026-04-29T16:02:43.431673+02:00 Tuxedo polkitd[5447]: Error opening rules directory: Error opening directory “/run/polkit-1/rules.d”: No such file or directory (g-file-error-quark, 4)
2026-04-29T16:02:43.431827+02:00 Tuxedo polkitd[5447]: Loading rules from directory /usr/local/share/polkit-1/rules.d
2026-04-29T16:02:43.431913+02:00 Tuxedo polkitd[5447]: Error opening rules directory: Error opening directory “/usr/local/share/polkit-1/rules.d”: No such file or directory (g-file-error-quark, 4)
2026-04-29T16:02:43.432135+02:00 Tuxedo polkitd[5447]: Loading rules from directory /usr/share/polkit-1/rules.d

#16 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GENUEN starting GUI » 2026-04-29 13:50:44

gfp

in /etc/X11/default-display-manager
I have got only one installed.

/usr/sbin/lightdm

#17 Devuan Derivatives » GENUEN starting GUI » 2026-04-28 09:53:05

gfp
Replies: 18

in starting Genuen I got only the terminal without GUI
after entering:

startx

it opened the last Cinnamon session.

What command would be to start a wayland session?

#18 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled » 2026-04-27 14:24:05

gfp

installing vdev helped
now KDE X11 and wayland show all applications in the application menu.

thanks your your work

#19 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled » 2026-04-26 11:53:53

gfp

thanks very much

during installing that message came up:

******************************************************************************
*
* The base-files package cannot be installed because
* /bin is a directory, but should be a symbolic link.
*
* Please install the usrmerge package to convert this system to merged-/usr.
*
* For more information please read https://wiki.debian.org/UsrMerge.
*
******************************************************************************
I installed "usrmerge"

and run again:

sudo apt dist-upgrade

and then everything went fine.

Excalibur got installed.

But there are several problems.

e.g in KDE (I think it is X11) there are no  apps shown in the starter menu.
other problems I have not yet discovered.

at least  Genuen Excalibur got installed.

#20 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled » 2026-04-25 10:12:45

gfp

How should I do this best?

I changed in /etc/apt/sources.list  from daedalus to excalibur
but
sudo apt update shows
Signation can´t be checked
missing public key.

Holen:1 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur InRelease [3.630 B]
Holen:2 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-security InRelease [3.442 B]   
Holen:3 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-updates InRelease [3.431 B]   
Holen:4 https://repo.librewolf.net librewolf InRelease [5.649 B]                   
Fehl:1 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur InRelease 
  Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht überprüft werden, weil ihr öffentlicher Schlüssel nicht verfügbar ist: NO_PUBKEY 72623EE3A542DC5B
Fehl:2 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-security InRelease

Holen:1 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur InRelease [3.630 B]
Holen:2 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-security InRelease [3.442 B]
Holen:3 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-updates InRelease [3.431 B]
Get:4 https://repo.librewolf.net librewolf InRelease [5.649 B]
Missing:1 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur InRelease
The following signatures could not be verified because their public key is not available: NO PUBKEY 72623EE3A542DC5B
Incorrect:2 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-security InRelease
The following signatures could not be verified because their public key is not available: NO PUBKEY 72623EE3A542DC5B
Incorrect:3 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-updates InRelease
The following signatures could not be verified because their public key is not available: NO PUBKEY 72623EE3A542DC5B
Package lists are read... Finished
W: GPG error: http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur InRelease: The following signatures could not be verified because their public key is not available: NO PUBKEY 72623EE3A542DC5B
  Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht überprüft werden, weil ihr öffentlicher Schlüssel nicht verfügbar ist: NO_PUBKEY 72623EE3A542DC5B
Fehl:3 http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-updates InRelease
  Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht überprüft werden, weil ihr öffentlicher Schlüssel nicht verfügbar ist: NO_PUBKEY 72623EE3A542DC5B
Paketlisten werden gelesen… Fertig
W: GPG-Fehler: http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur InRelease: Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht überprüft werden, weil ihr öffentlicher Schlüssel nicht verfügbar ist: NO_PUBKEY 72623EE3A542DC5B

#21 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled » 2026-04-23 13:14:21

gfp

Should I replace the name: gnuinos
with
genuen

in  /etc/apt/sources.list   ?

would that help?

#22 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled » 2026-04-23 12:23:09

gfp

the time shown in the menu is OK. and for setting the time and equalize with the internet server I have to install NTP it said.

#23 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled » 2026-04-23 12:20:24

gfp

sudo apt update > update2.txt

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

in German:

E: Release-Datei für http://packages.gnuinos.org/merged/dist … /InRelease ist abgelaufen (ungültig seit 82 d 5 h 50 min 2 s). Aktualisierungen für dieses Depot werden nicht angewendet.
E: Release-Datei für http://packages.gnuinos.org/merged/dist … /InRelease ist abgelaufen (ungültig seit 82 d 5 h 50 min 3 s). Aktualisierungen für dieses Depot werden nicht angewendet.
E: Release-Datei für http://packages.gnuinos.org/merged/dist … /InRelease ist abgelaufen (ungültig seit 82 d 5 h 50 min 3 s). Aktualisierungen für dieses Depot werden nicht angewendet.

sudo apt update > update2.txt

WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.

in English:

E: Release file for http://packages.gnuinos.org/merged/dist … /InRelease expired (invalid since 82 d 5 h 50 min 2 s). Updates for this repository are not applied.
E: Release file for http://packages.gnuinos.org/merged/dist … /InRelease expired (invalid since 82 d 5 h 50 min 3 s). Updates for this repository are not applied.
E: Release file for http://packages.gnuinos.org/merged/dist … /InRelease expired (invalid since 82 d 5 h 50 min 3 s). Updates for this repository are not applied.

What does that mean?

#24 Devuan Derivatives » [SOLVED] GENUEN updating packages is disabled » 2026-04-22 10:12:13

gfp
Replies: 29

Since approx. 8 weeks updating of Genuen/Gnuinos packages is disabled.
sudo apt update
sudo apt upgrade
does not work

Are there reasons for that?

Should we wait for the next version, which at the moment only for XFCE is available?

#25 Devuan Derivatives » updating Genuen/Gnuinos » 2025-12-23 13:04:37

gfp
Replies: 2

should I wait until Genuen is updating to "excalibur"
or should I already
point the repositories to the forthcoming stable release based on Devuan 6.0 Excalibur, the sources.list file should look as follows:

deb http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur main
deb-src http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur main

deb http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-updates main
deb-src http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-updates main

deb http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-security main
deb-src http://packages.genuen.org/merged excalibur-security main

in order to get an update?

AFAIK until now is is work in progress and not all packages are already updated,
in order not to get a mixed distribution.

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