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#2026 Re: Devuan » Using Debian packages » 2019-03-29 15:52:58
Lysander . . . Third party repos are always a bit of a risk. Take care.
#2027 Re: Devuan » Devuan's planetary theming » 2019-03-26 15:27:02
OK, so I see one of the devs is an astronomer, is there any other reason? Is it because Devuan is 'out of this world' [or something like that]?
This was discussed extensively on the DNG mail list where many suggestions were offered. You can find those posts in the archive. One of the main reasons we use the names of minor planets is that there is a minor planet named Jessie so that made a neat segue into the fork from Debian Jessie to Devuan Jessie. Many of us are trekkies and we forked around the time of Lenoard Nemoy's death. We actually used the Vulcan hand gesture on a bright red background for our very first iso splash screen. There are also a LOT of minor planet names to choose from.
Also, the 'D' of Devuan is highly stylised. Does it represent a comet or a planet in orbit?
It is the orbit of Ceres.
Debian's logo has caused a lot of speculation over time but now we know more or less what it means and exactly how it was created [if you don't know how, it's hilarious]. It would be good to clear up any confusion about the Devuan logo and thematic. Apologies if I have missed any already-existent information.
There was a "contest" which didn't produce a "winner" even though some of the suggestions were quite nice. But once the planetary theme was chosen, none of those was really relevant.
Then there was work on our gitlab. The genesis started here then moved to here.
*edit* Just found the Vulcan spash screen tucked away in an old gitlab issue
#2028 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2019-03-25 20:00:56
LOL! I totally forgot about those dependencies. If you had Clearlooks-Phenix-DarkPurpy or ascii desktop-base installed it should have pulled them in. The packagers take care of all that when my job is finished:
gtk2-engines
gtk2-engines-xfce
gtk3-engines-xfce
Note that I have not yet gotten to the OpenBox theme so it's still darkpurpy palette.
Just last night my beowulf lost the ability to put a background on the desktop. Still trying to sort that.
#2029 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2019-03-25 18:46:48
Hello zephyr, great to see you too!
I've ugraded to beowulf:
And lost libsystemd0 in the process :-)
My compliments to the devs.
Nice!! 
But you still have the ASCII theming! The "bloody" beowulf theme parts are here. Screenshots too up top. The very helpful ToZ at the Xfce forum just gave me a snippet that fixed the final gtk-3 glitch in the Clearlooks-Phenix-Cinnabar theme. Give me a few to get that uploaded.
*edit* New zip uploaded.
#2030 Re: Installation » mini.iso 16-2-2019 BUG does not install on M2 disks » 2019-03-25 04:18:07
do you use the package reportbug or the package reportbug-ng?
And the mini_16-2-2019.iso is not a package. how do you report it?
You can report a bug to https://bugs.devuan.org/ I find it easiest to sent a report directly by email. There is a link to the instructions on the index page.
#2031 Re: Devuan » Meet cinnabar (Beowulf default theme) » 2019-03-24 14:02:32
golinux wrote:https://dev1galaxy.org/files/cinnabar_lightDM.zip - Graphics for lightDM login. Not quite sure where this goes and too tired to poke around.
LightDM backgrounds go in /usr/share/images/desktop-base. The easiest way to get the images used is to change the names to greeter-wide-large.png and greeter-narrow-large.png, after saving the originals of course.
I think the "proper" way use the new beo- file names is to alter the /etc/alternatives/desktop-lightdm-background symlink to point to the new name.
Thanks dxrobertson. I seem to remember that from years ago. One other thing I do is to overwrite the current default themes for grub and slim keeping the old names because they are so intertwined with desktop-base etc. With the the desktop stuff, renaming is no issue. Hopefully there will be installable deb files before too long.
#2032 Re: Devuan » Meet cinnabar (Beowulf default theme) » 2019-03-24 06:29:22
Here are the various parts of the cinnabar theme for those who want to give it a spin. You'll have to add them manually.
https://dev1galaxy.org/files/cinnabar-grub.zip - Boot screen. Goes in /usr/share/desktop-base
https://dev1galaxy.org/files/cinnabar-slim.zip - Graphics for slim login - Goes in /usr/share/slim/themes/
https://dev1galaxy.org/files/cinnabar_lightDM.zip - Graphics for lightDM login. Not quite sure where this goes and too tired to poke around.
https://dev1galaxy.org/files/cinnabar_wallpaper.zip There are several places these can go. Pick your favorite spot.
https://dev1galaxy.org/files/CPC-final.zip - Clearlooks-Phenix-Cinnabar window theme. Goes in /usr/share/themes Be sure to choose it in Applications > settings > Appearance and Window Manager
https://dev1galaxy.org/files/cinnabar-g … ons.tar.gz - Goes in /usr/share/icons. Be sure to choose it in Applications > settings > Appearance > Icons Extract the cinnabar-gnome-icons using this command which will preserve the inode- sym links tar xvzfh cinnabar-gnome-icons.tar.gz
https://dev1galaxy.org/files/52gtk3-noo … lbar-nocsd - Fixes the disappearing scrollbar. Goes in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/
https://dev1galaxy.org/files/beo-gdo-32dk.png - icon for panel "Applications". Change under Properties.
Enjoy!
#2033 Re: Devuan » Meet cinnabar (Beowulf default theme) » 2019-03-23 15:47:23
Excellent theme and very befitting of the distro name for 3.0. Looks almost battlelike.
Very perceptive, Lysander. You totally understand my thought process in choosing that palette. I should really post access to all the pieces so folks can test it. It's on my list.
#2034 Re: Other Issues » Question about versions » 2019-03-20 15:59:47
I like Devuan and will go with it, barring the very unlikely event that there is a program that I absolutely need, but is linked to kde or some other desktop.
Huh? Sure, you can install KDE apps on Devuan provided they are not tied to systemd or apps from any other desktop for that matter. I no longer install KDE apps because it pulls in too much of KDE and bloats my system but I do run several apps from Mate.
#2035 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Tiny fonts » 2019-03-19 15:17:44
Ctrl + mouse wheel adjusts font sizes for me.
#2036 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Avidemux and h264enc » 2019-03-18 21:49:08
Off topic . . . personal rant.
I have used avidemux for over a decade to edit video with great success, Then they went to qt then they dropped the fade filter then went to using time instead of frames so all that frame-based work is no longer compatible with their latest and greatest. I was not happy about that. They used to have a flatpak which was the first I'd heard of it. Read what a flatpak was, said no thank you and decided to stick with an older version from Wheezy on jessie until it refuses to work anymore.
/end rant
#2037 Re: Devuan » Possible long-term install of Devuan and initial post-install thoughts » 2019-03-17 15:01:59
Hi All,
there is *no* automatic conversion to merged-usr during update or anywhere else in Devuan. The only way to force a transition to merged-usr at the moment is to install the package `usrmerge`, which is not installed by default. In beowulf there will be the option to have a merged-usr in expert install, but the default will remain a non-merged usr.
HTH
KatolaZ
Hmmmm . . . so where did I get that. Is the merge automatic with an upgrade in Debian and we are reversing it in Devuan? Or is my memory really starting to fail!
*edit* All that stuck in my feeble old memory were the endless threads that went on about this on DNG.
#2038 Re: Devuan » Possible long-term install of Devuan and initial post-install thoughts » 2019-03-17 06:20:40
Upgrade to beowulf will not mess with /usr or /sbin. It won't change your directories.
I thought the merge was automatic. I do know that KatolaZ put that option into the installer specifically to give users a choice. Do you have a reference for a mechanism that prevents the merge on an upgrade?
#2039 Re: Devuan » Possible long-term install of Devuan and initial post-install thoughts » 2019-03-17 00:22:33
PS: ahem, Beowulf is very stable so far, still technically testing...but you may want to give that a whirl, save you a future dist-upgrade.
There are still some rough edges on beowulf but it's getting close. For example, I'm not clear that's it's possible to avoid the /usr merge on an upgrade but it is an option on the beowulf test mini.iso. If that's an important consideration, it will require a fresh install because I don't know that it's possible to unmerge.
#2040 Re: Devuan » Possible long-term install of Devuan and initial post-install thoughts » 2019-03-17 00:16:58
PedroReina wrote:Lysander wrote:/dev/mmcblk0p1 23G 4.3G 18G 20% /Would it be reasonable to shave down the root partition to 10GB therefore giving me a much-appreciated larger /home partition?
Of course. In my experience I've never go to more than 10 GB. And 4.3 is very similar to my standard install of a full desktop.
Yes, OK, so that's going to be one of my many jobs tomorrow, to repartition this SD and give 10GB to /. I really can't imagine it needing more than that at this rate. Funny how an OS can run so fast off one of those things these days. Really indiscernable from an internal drive as far as my experience in the last 24 hours goes.
That depends on your usecase. When I do extensive audio and video editing things get stored in /tmp which quick;y runs out of room so I've had to increase / to 20GB on several installs over the years.
Well, seeing as this is the ASCII live .iso I think this is refracta. I'm quite familiar with the Debian installer, which is superior in my opinion. I think you thought I was talking about the Debian one, which I quite like.
The index page of devuan.org has a description of the various isos. There is a truncated version of that on the download page as well as links to these Visual Install Guides:
https://devuan.org/os/documentation/ins … -here.html
Navigation to the various install procedures is at the bottom.
#2041 Re: Devuan » Possible long-term install of Devuan and initial post-install thoughts » 2019-03-16 22:55:53
Lysander wrote:One criticism so far - the installer feels a bit clunky.
May be just a matter of taste. I think that it is powerful and simple. (I always use the "Expert install").
Lysander wrote:felt rather experimental.
No, it is not experimental. It is old code by now. It get new options, but I've been using it (with Debian and Devuan) more than 10 years. 15? No glitchs. Some times hardware has errors and they get up to the installer.
He never said which iso he used so comments/discussion of an installer are pointless. Was it the Debian installer or refractainstaller? We have no way of knowing.
#2042 Re: Devuan » Possible long-term install of Devuan and initial post-install thoughts » 2019-03-16 21:21:35
Great to see you here Lysander! You didn't give us much info to go on. Which iso did you use and for what release - jessie or ascii? Are you using a WM or DE? A search brings up quite a few threads about lid suspension but you might start with this thread.
#2043 Re: Installation » Beowulf, where to download from » 2019-03-14 23:39:46
Is systemd part of Beowulf?
No. What makes you think that?
#2044 Re: Devuan » Burnt burnt burnt... » 2019-03-14 20:37:14
The no-dbus thing is still a DIY option not an official one. If you're not running a DE it's pretty easy to do w/o dbus. A full blown desktop, not so much. There was recently some interesting dbus-related discussion on the DNG mail list.
Several years there was an attempt to get Kay Sievers' kdbus into the kernel. Linus slapped it down. Now that he's been neutered by the SJWers and GKH is in charge, I anticipate another attempt. Here's some history:
#2045 Re: Devuan » Burnt burnt burnt... » 2019-03-14 18:14:39
One question.
Is there a way to for example migrate a Debian Stretch system to Devuan.
All it should take as first step is to remove systemd and replace it with sysv-core, but I ask if such migration maybe exist as I have several servers I need to migrate. Clean new install is probably the best option, but I thought I ask anyway.
Welcome! Unfortunately, your story is not unique. The following guides should answer your questions:
https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/
and do read the release notes:
https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/Release_notes.txt
Please post here if you run into difficulties.
#2046 Re: Devuan » Why are pulseaudio files present in Devuan? » 2019-03-13 23:38:20
I have not yet had to deal with that - still on Jessie. On more recent FF versions where pulseaudio is a hard dependency, libpulse0 won't save you. But do not despair. apulse will get alsa back on FF. There are instructions here and there on how to do this (too lazy to go do the legwork).
#2047 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problem with mounting partitions » 2019-03-13 17:33:57
golinux wrote:someone who just dropped in here a few days ago and is new to Devuan.
How's me being new at Devuan forums relates to actual matters of discussion?
If you have to ask that question, it's unlikely you'd understand the answer.
#2048 Re: Devuan » Someone had a how make devuan which specific packages? » 2019-03-13 16:44:29
Hi,
Devuan has its own devuan-sdk:
which is a tool to create different kinds of Devuan-based images. In your case, you can create a live image by using live-sdk. It comes with two pre-defined "blends" (desktop-live and minimal-live). It's an easy and extremely customisable way of getting your own live Devuan derivative.
HTH
KatolaZ
Indeed. inukaze be careful who you take advice from.
#2049 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » Problem with mounting partitions » 2019-03-13 16:41:38
ToxicExMachina, why would you advise someone to follow an (in your words) incorrect method to mount a partition?
Indeed. RIA77 . . . listen carefully to KatolaZ not someone who just dropped in here a few days ago and is new to Devuan.
#2050 Re: Devuan » A philosophical diatribe: How to avoid having users - and how not to » 2019-03-13 07:01:20
@ToxicExMachina . . . really . . . what is your problem.
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