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#151 Re: Installation » xserver no start w/ ATI(AMD) card, xserver-org 1.19.3-1 [PARTLY SOLVED » 2017-07-03 22:04:55

miroR

This is how the (somewhat) working setup now looks in my Air-Gapped.

iii) # lspci -nn grep -A12 '1002:5b60'

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV370 [Radeon X300] [1002:5b60] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
        Subsystem: PC Partner Limited / Sapphire Technology RV370 [Radeon X300] [174b:0490]
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19, NUMA node 0
        Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
        I/O ports at ce00 [size=256]
        Memory at dfdf0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
        [virtual] Expansion ROM at 000c0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
        Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
        Capabilities: [58] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
        Capabilities: [80] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
        Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting
        Kernel driver in use: radeon
        Kernel modules: radeonfb, radeon

#152 Re: Installation » xserver no start w/ ATI(AMD) card, xserver-org 1.19.3-1 [PARTLY SOLVED » 2017-07-03 21:52:53

miroR

BTW, I didn't know AMD/ATI was all in red, i.e. unsupported/poorly supported:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg#AMD
...
But I haven't bought a video card for some four or more years. Wasn't like that before AMD bought ATI... Never mind.

Of these:
https://www.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages/
I have seen in these few days almost half, but not too well can I remember to say precisely.

After removing the nonfree packages (these were suggested on some pages on Debian wiki and elsewhere when I tried to install fglrx-driver):

# apt-get remove firmware-linux-nonfree firmware-misc-nonfree firmware-amd-graphics

(that was actually the first step, the install of the:

# # apt-get install firmware-linux-free

was afterwards)

[After removing the nonfree packages] and installing the free firmware, I ran:

# X -configure

which saved for me xorg.conf.new in the $HOME directory. And it suggested I could try running:

# X -config xorg.conf.new

which I did.

I was running:

$ uname -r
4.9.27-unofficial+grsec170512-22
$

which is just what I'm running in this clone (with NVidia card) of that master (with ATI). I only have one NVidia card, and some three working ATI. No surplus. I sometimes have to shutdown a system and move a card from one machine to another...

And I got apparently in other respects good output by # X -configure, but for this:

[ 2041.551711] PAX: execution attempt in: (null), 00000000-00000000 00000000
[ 2041.553111] PAX: terminating task: /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg(Xorg):4575, uid/euid: 1000/1000, PC:            (nil), SP: 000003a65413a2a8
[ 2041.556179] PAX: bytes at PC: ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? [ 2041.556430]
[ 2041.558076] PAX: bytes at SP-8: 0000000bd4edea70 0000000bd0b7f8f0 000003a65413a320 0000000bd0f56634 000003a65413a2f8 0000000bd4edea70 0000000bd4f2a370 0000000000000560 0000000bd4f1d620 000003a65413a370 0000000bd4f1b0c0 [ 2041.559803]
[ 2041.561321] grsec: denied resource overstep by requesting 4096 for RLIMIT_CORE against limit 0 for /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg[Xorg:4575] uid/euid:1000/1000 gid/egid:1000/1000, parent /bin/bash[bash:3485] uid/euid:1000/1000 gid/egid:1000/1000

which I would very much like to understand, but tonight I had to get my X running in any way, and do the full circle with my Air-Gapping.

So I tried the same as root. It still failed. But not so badly (no time for details).

I rebooted into:

# uname -r
4.9.0-3-amd64

did it all over, and after one tweak to it, as suggested in
"AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0", even though it's likely the monitor that is half broken, since it's probably older than that Sapphire Technology RV370 Radeon X300, which tweak consisted in removing, I think it was in two places:

        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     24
        EndSubSection

removing two subsections that looked something like that and saving the file...
And then I was able to run:

# X -config xorg.conf.new

and it started the X.

I will keep the logs of all the attempts for a while. Because I will need them to solve the issue completely.

But I can live like this for a day or two or so.

As per the apt-listchanges news reported in the starting post, I could probably, and still can, use the legacy package for old behavior, but that doesn't apeal to me. The new method is so much safer.

And I've one important thing I have to add. I had (days ago) added me as normal user to the input group.

I think it was this command:

# usermod -G -a input mr

in my case (user mr).

#153 Re: Installation » xserver no start w/ ATI(AMD) card, xserver-org 1.19.3-1 [PARTLY SOLVED » 2017-07-03 20:23:52

miroR
miroR wrote:

# cat /etc/apt/apt.conf

Debug::pkgProblemResolver "on";
Debug::pkgDPkgPM "on";
Debug::Acquire::ftp "on";
Debug::Acquire::http "on";
Debug::Acquire::gpgv "on";
Debug::BuildDeps "on";
Debug::Hashes "on";
InstallProgress::Fancy "off";
Binary::apt::DPkg::Progress-Fancy "off";
AllowInsecureRepositories "off";

Here's actually what happened.

# apt-get install firmware-linux-free

Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...

...[lots of output/log cut out here]...

0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 19.2 kB of archives.
After this operation, 69.6 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 firmware-linux-free all 3.4 [19.2 kB]
/usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 17 --no-triggers --unpack --auto-deconfigure /var/cache/apt/archives/firmware-linux-free_3.4_all.deb 
/usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 17 --configure --pending 
2017/07/03 15:27:19 Reading config from: /etc/paxrat/paxrat.conf
Fetched 19.2 kB in 2s (6,691 B/s)

In essence, showing dpkg commands, as man apt.conf reads it will do, but, not installing the package.. As per:

# apt-cache policy firmware-linux-free

firmware-linux-free:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 3.4
...

remaining uninstalled.

So since:

# ls -l /var/cache/apt/archives/firmware-linux-free_3.4_all.deb 
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 19196 2015-08-16 16:04 /var/cache/apt/archives/firmware-linux-free_3.4_all.deb

the package was downloaded fine, I went for a binary search, and it was only one line that needed to be commented out. This one.

#Debug::pkgDPkgPM "on";

The rest can remain.

If it looks like a bug to other readers, it would be great it someone reported it... Or explained how come it wouldn't install the package... It was similar with remove'ing packages as well. As soon as that line is commented out, and only once that line is commented out, packages can be removed...

BTW, I got Xorg running with ATI now, but only as root, and only with non-grsec kernel... I'll try and provide a more thorough report next.

#154 Re: Installation » xserver no start w/ ATI(AMD) card, xserver-org 1.19.3-1 [PARTLY SOLVED » 2017-07-03 16:52:56

miroR

A digression, somewhat.
# cat /etc/apt/apt.conf

Debug::pkgProblemResolver "on";
Debug::pkgDPkgPM "on";
Debug::Acquire::ftp "on";
Debug::Acquire::http "on";
Debug::Acquire::gpgv "on";
Debug::BuildDeps "on";
Debug::Hashes "on";
InstallProgress::Fancy "off";
Binary::apt::DPkg::Progress-Fancy "off";
AllowInsecureRepositories "off";

I found those in 'man apt.conf'.
But now I can't remove packages, nor install them. I can download packages, and update. I saw that /var/cache/ and /var/lib/apt/ do get updated. But...

Here's actually what happened.
# apt-get install firmware-linux-free

Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
Starting pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 0
Starting 2 pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 0
Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  firmware-linux-free
GET /merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/f/firmware-free/firmware-linux-free_3.4_all.deb HTTP/1.1
Host: packages.devuan.org
User-Agent: Debian APT-HTTP/1.3 (1.4.6)

Answer for: http://packages.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/f/firmware-free/firmware-linux-free_3.4_all.deb
HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily
Server: nginx/1.9.9
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 15:27:24 GMT
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 160
Connection: keep-alive
Location: http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/pool/main/f/firmware-free/firmware-linux-free_3.4_all.deb

GET /debian/pool/main/f/firmware-free/firmware-linux-free_3.4_all.deb HTTP/1.1
Host: httpredir.debian.org
User-Agent: Debian APT-HTTP/1.3 (1.4.6)

Answer for: http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/pool/main/f/firmware-free/firmware-linux-free_3.4_all.deb
HTTP/1.1 302 Found
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 15:27:25 GMT
Server: Apache
X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff
X-Frame-Options: sameorigin
Referrer-Policy: no-referrer
X-Xss-Protection: 1
Location: http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/f/firmware-free/firmware-linux-free_3.4_all.deb
Content-Length: 351
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

GET /debian/pool/main/f/firmware-free/firmware-linux-free_3.4_all.deb HTTP/1.1
Host: cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org
User-Agent: Debian APT-HTTP/1.3 (1.4.6)

Answer for: http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian/pool/main/f/firmware-free/firmware-linux-free_3.4_all.deb
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: Apache
X-Content-Type-Options: nosniff
X-Frame-Options: sameorigin
Referrer-Policy: no-referrer
X-Xss-Protection: 1
Last-Modified: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 16:04:14 GMT
ETag: "4afc-51d6fd62137f3"
X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett
Cache-Control: public, max-age=2592000
Content-Type: application/x-debian-package
Via: 1.1 varnish
Fastly-Debug-Digest: c482a467b26793da38603698f070e4efb72e7336e1621a892dc99b4f86b68373
Content-Length: 19196
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 15:27:26 GMT
Via: 1.1 varnish
Age: 9050755
Connection: keep-alive
X-Served-By: cache-ams4143-AMS, cache-hhn1550-HHN
X-Cache: HIT, HIT
X-Cache-Hits: 1, 1
X-Timer: S1499095646.454086,VS0,VE1

0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 19.2 kB of archives.
After this operation, 69.6 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 firmware-linux-free all 3.4 [19.2 kB]
/usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 17 --no-triggers --unpack --auto-deconfigure /var/cache/apt/archives/firmware-linux-free_3.4_all.deb 
/usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 17 --configure --pending 
2017/07/03 15:27:19 Reading config from: /etc/paxrat/paxrat.conf
Fetched 19.2 kB in 2s (6,691 B/s)

And of course:
# apt-cache policy firmware-linux-free

firmware-linux-free:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 3.4
  Version table:
     3.4 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages

And:

# ls -l /var/cache/apt/archives/firmware-linux-free_3.4_all.deb 
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 19196 2015-08-16 16:04 /var/cache/apt/archives/firmware-linux-free_3.4_all.deb

My question is which of the entries that I added (I didn't have an /etc/apt/apt.conf previously, and all  that previously was in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ is untouched), could be responsible for that?

Which one of the lines added should I remove?

#155 Re: Installation » xserver no start w/ ATI(AMD) card, xserver-org 1.19.3-1 [PARTLY SOLVED » 2017-07-03 13:33:37

miroR

I have gotten much more familiar with apt, apt-get, apt-config, apt.conf and other man pages... I surely would have written the first post much differently if I were to have dedicated to those learning such long hours as I did yesterday, previous to posting it...

But I might be close to finding the solution to my issue.

Look:

for i in $(apt-cache search firmware | grep free | grep linux | awk '{ print $1 }'); do apt-cache policy $i ; done ;

firmware-linux-free:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 3.4
  Version table:
     3.4 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
firmware-linux-nonfree:
  Installed: 20161130-3~bpo8+1
  Candidate: 20161130-3~bpo8+1
  Version table:
 *** 20161130-3~bpo8+1 100
        100 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports/non-free amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

IOW, if firmware-linux-nonfree would be needed for problematic for fglrx-drive (in bottom of previous post), which was a dependency that I had to install, maybe I just install what I probably have uninstalled by mistake in the huge mess that I created when I updated my system with stretch... and that is the firmware-linux-free...

But I first have to uninstall those few packages that I installed when I tried to install fglrx-drive... I'm doing it the way I did, poor-user's non-expert hacking that I need for the manual Air-Gapping method... It's not so very trivial...

#156 Installation » xserver no start w/ ATI(AMD) card, xserver-org 1.19.3-1 [PARTLY SOLVED » 2017-07-01 19:29:18

miroR
Replies: 11

title: xserver won't start with ATI (AMD) cards with xserver-org 1.19.3-1 [PARTLY SOLVED]
---
I've tried to solve this more quickly in different ways, but all my attempts failed miserably, shattering badly my nerves on a few occasions... So I fear I have to approach this case much more thoroughly.

I'm writing this from my cloned system, without any difficulty, but the cloned system has Nvidia card installed.
i) shortest info
ii) -v info
iii) -v -v info

i) # lspci | grep VGA

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2)

ii) # lspci -v | grep -A16 'VGA compatible controller'

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
        Subsystem: CardExpert Technology GT218 [GeForce 210]
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 28, NUMA node 0
        Memory at dd000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
        Memory at b0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
        Memory at ce000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
        I/O ports at ef00 [size=128]
        [virtual] Expansion ROM at 000c0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
        Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
        Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
        Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
        Capabilities: [b4] Vendor Specific Information: Len=14 <?>
        Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
        Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting <?>
        Capabilities: [600] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0001 Rev=1 Len=024 <?>
        Kernel driver in use: nouveau
        Kernel modules: nouveau

iii # lspci -v -v | grep -A49 'VGA compatible controller'

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 210] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
        Subsystem: CardExpert Technology GT218 [GeForce 210]
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 4 bytes
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 28
        NUMA node: 0
        Region 0: Memory at dd000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
        Region 1: Memory at b0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
        Region 3: Memory at ce000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
        Region 5: I/O ports at ef00 [size=128]
        [virtual] Expansion ROM at 000c0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
        Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 NoSoftRst+ PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
        Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
                Address: 00000000fee0300c  Data: 4162
        Capabilities: [78] Express (v2) Endpoint, MSI 00
                DevCap: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, Latency L0s unlimited, L1 <64us
                        ExtTag+ AttnBtn- AttnInd- PwrInd- RBE+ FLReset- SlotPowerLimit 0.000W
                DevCtl: Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported-
                        RlxdOrd+ ExtTag+ PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop+
                        MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 512 bytes
                DevSta: CorrErr+ UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq- AuxPwr- TransPend-
                LnkCap: Port #0, Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x16, ASPM L0s L1, Exit Latency L0s <256ns, L1 <4us
                        ClockPM+ Surprise- LLActRep- BwNot- ASPMOptComp-
                LnkCtl: ASPM Disabled; RCB 128 bytes Disabled- CommClk+
                        ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
                LnkSta: Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x16, TrErr- Train- SlotClk+ DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
                DevCap2: Completion Timeout: Not Supported, TimeoutDis+, LTR-, OBFF Not Supported
                DevCtl2: Completion Timeout: 50us to 50ms, TimeoutDis-, LTR-, OBFF Disabled
                LnkCtl2: Target Link Speed: 2.5GT/s, EnterCompliance- SpeedDis-
                         Transmit Margin: Normal Operating Range, EnterModifiedCompliance- ComplianceSOS-
                         Compliance De-emphasis: -6dB
                LnkSta2: Current De-emphasis Level: -6dB, EqualizationComplete-, EqualizationPhase1-
                         EqualizationPhase2-, EqualizationPhase3-, LinkEqualizationRequest-
        Capabilities: [b4] Vendor Specific Information: Len=14 <?>
        Capabilities: [100 v1] Virtual Channel
                Caps:   LPEVC=0 RefClk=100ns PATEntryBits=1
                Arb:    Fixed- WRR32- WRR64- WRR128-
                Ctrl:   ArbSelect=Fixed
                Status: InProgress-
                VC0:    Caps:   PATOffset=00 MaxTimeSlots=1 RejSnoopTrans-
                        Arb:    Fixed- WRR32- WRR64- WRR128- TWRR128- WRR256-
                        Ctrl:   Enable+ ID=0 ArbSelect=Fixed TC/VC=ff
                        Status: NegoPending- InProgress-
        Capabilities: [128 v1] Power Budgeting <?>
        Capabilities: [600 v1] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0001 Rev=1 Len=024 <?>
        Kernel driver in use: nouveau
        Kernel modules: nouveau

And I have no trouble starting up X with startx (I have a sans-dbus system, so nothing fancy, e.g. not even auto disk mounting, ugh, thanks a lot, I don't mind the few seconds it takes me to mount anthing the old way: manually... it's so much safer!)... [and I have no trouble starting up X with startx] in this system, even though I already couldn't start X when I updated my Air-Gapped (pls. see my topic on Air-Gapped in this Dev1Galaxy.org forums if you wonder what methods I used)... True, because it's a different video card in that other system, details follow...

And the xserver-* and related packages are all ascii. Very few of any of my packages, because of my recent attempt:
How to install TorBrowser in Ascii? NOT from Stretch backports!
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=773

[Very few of any of my packages] are from jessie-backports...

I added ceres-backports as well (but nothing installed from it so far), or should I not have that other backports for some reason?...

But no packages yet have I pulled, recently (after moving away from Debian stretch which I erroneously, before having figured out how to do Air-Gapping with Devuan, used previously), other than from ascii repos, and, just very little, only for torbrowser-launcher, from jessie-backports.

I'm actually not knowledgeable enough to explain the problem well, but I believe it was the xserver-org-* update after which it wouldn't work anymore...

As per this email notification:

apt-listchanges: news for gdOv

xorg-server (2:1.18.3-2) unstable; urgency=medium

  X now defaults to using built-in modesetting video driver on Intel
  hardware which is "4th gen GMA" and newer, so roughly speaking on hardware
  from 2007 and up. If this triggers new bugs on your hw, please file them
  against the xserver.

  Continuing to use the -intel driver is possible by dropping the template
  xorg.conf to /etc/X11:

  # cp /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-video-intel/xorg.conf /etc/X11

-- Timo Aaltonen <tjaalton@debian.org>  Tue, 19 Jul 2016 04:28:05 +0300

xorg-server (2:1.17.3-1) unstable; urgency=medium

  The Xorg server is no longer setuid root by default.  This change reduces the
  risk of privilege escalation due to X server bugs, but has some side effects:

  * it relies on logind and libpam-systemd
  * it relies on a kernel video driver (so the userspace component doesn't
    touch the hardware directly)
  * it needs X to run on the virtual console (VT) it was started from
  * it changes the location for storing the Xorg log from /var/log/ to
    ~/.local/share/xorg/

  On systems where those are not available, the new xserver-xorg-legacy package
  is needed to allow X to run with elevated privileges.  See the
  Xwrapper.config(5) manual page for configuration details.

-- Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>  Tue, 27 Oct 2015 22:54:11 +0000

However,
# apt-cache policy xorg-server

N: Unable to locate package xorg-server
#

but:
# apt-cache search xserver | wc -l

67
#

gives a lot and at first I thought I would leave it out... But I'm too clueless, and the right info to help me solve this might not be just around the corner...
# apt-cache search xserver

isdnvboxserver - ISDN utilities - answering machine server
tigervnc-standalone-server - Standalone virtual network computing server
tightvncserver - virtual network computing server software
x11-xserver-utils - X server utilities
xserver-xorg-input-mtrack - Multitouch X input driver
xserver-xorg-input-multitouch - Multitouch X input driver
xserver-xorg-input-wacom - X.Org X server -- Wacom input driver
xserver-xorg-input-xwiimote - X.Org Wii remote input driver
xserver-xorg - X.Org X server
xserver-xorg-input-all - X.Org X server -- input driver metapackage
xserver-xorg-video-all - X.Org X server -- output driver metapackage
xnest - Nested X server
xserver-common - common files used by various X servers
xserver-xephyr - nested X server
xserver-xorg-core - Xorg X server - core server
xserver-xorg-dev - Xorg X server - development files
xserver-xorg-legacy - setuid root Xorg server wrapper
xvfb - Virtual Framebuffer 'fake' X server
xserver-xorg-input-aiptek - X.Org X server -- Aiptek input driver
xserver-xorg-input-elographics - X.Org X server -- ELOGraphics input driver
xserver-xorg-input-evdev - X.Org X server -- evdev input driver
xserver-xorg-input-evdev-dbg - X.Org X server -- evdev input driver (debug symbols)
xserver-xorg-input-evdev-dev - X.Org X server -- evdev input driver (development headers)
xserver-xorg-input-joystick - X.Org X server -- joystick input driver
xserver-xorg-input-joystick-dev - X.Org X server -- joystick input driver (development headers)
xserver-xorg-input-kbd - X.Org X server -- keyboard input driver
xserver-xorg-input-libinput - X.Org X server -- libinput input driver
xserver-xorg-input-libinput-dev - X.Org X server -- libinput input driver (development headers)
xserver-xorg-input-mouse - X.Org X server -- mouse input driver
xserver-xorg-input-mutouch - X.Org X server -- muTouch input driver
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics - Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-dev - Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org server (development headers)
xserver-xorg-input-void - X.Org X server -- void input driver
xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu - X.Org X server -- AMDGPU display driver
xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu-dbg - X.Org X server -- AMDGPU display driver (debugging symbols)
xserver-xorg-video-ast - X.Org X server -- ASpeed Technologies display driver
xserver-xorg-video-ati - X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI display driver wrapper
xserver-xorg-video-ati-dbg - X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI display driver wrapper (debugging symbols)
xserver-xorg-video-radeon - X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI Radeon display driver
xserver-xorg-video-radeon-dbg - X.Org X server -- AMD/ATI Radeon display driver (debugging symbols)
xserver-xorg-video-cirrus - X.Org X server -- Cirrus display driver
xserver-xorg-video-dummy - X.Org X server -- dummy display driver
xserver-xorg-video-fbdev - X.Org X server -- fbdev display driver
xserver-xorg-video-glide - X.Org X server -- Glide display driver
xserver-xorg-video-intel - X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver
xserver-xorg-video-intel-dbg - X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver (debug symbols)
xserver-xorg-video-mach64 - X.Org X server -- ATI Mach64 display driver
xserver-xorg-video-mach64-dbg - X.Org X server -- ATI display driver (debugging symbols)
xserver-xorg-video-mga - X.Org X server -- MGA display driver
xserver-xorg-video-neomagic - X.Org X server -- Neomagic display driver
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau - X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau-dbg - X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver (debug symbols)
xserver-xorg-video-openchrome - X.Org X server -- VIA display driver
xserver-xorg-video-qxl - X.Org X server -- QXL display driver
xserver-xorg-video-r128 - X.Org X server -- ATI r128 display driver
xserver-xorg-video-r128-dbg - X.Org X server -- ATI r128 display driver (debugging symbols)
xserver-xorg-video-savage - X.Org X server -- Savage display driver
xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion - X.Org X server -- SiliconMotion display driver
xserver-xorg-video-sisusb - X.Org X server -- SiS USB display driver
xserver-xorg-video-tdfx - X.Org X server -- tdfx display driver
xserver-xorg-video-trident - X.Org X server -- Trident display driver
xserver-xorg-video-vesa - X.Org X server -- VESA display driver
xserver-xorg-video-vmware - X.Org X server -- VMware display driver
fglrx-driver - non-free ATI/AMD RadeonHD display driver
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia - NVIDIA binary Xorg driver
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-304xx - NVIDIA binary Xorg driver (304xx legacy version)
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-340xx - NVIDIA binary Xorg driver (340xx legacy version)

And I'll now make a list of, after a few steps, only those that are installed in my system. Using bash. Gentle reader, teach me better if better you know.

This:
# for i in $(apt-cache search xserver| awk '{ print $1}'); do apt-cache policy $i | if ( grep -q none ); then echo $i >> xserver-org_NOT_installed ; fi ; done ;
gave (after a while):
# cat xserver-org_NOT_installed

isdnvboxserver
tigervnc-standalone-server
tightvncserver
xserver-xorg-input-mtrack
xserver-xorg-input-multitouch
xserver-xorg-input-xwiimote
xnest
xserver-xephyr
xserver-xorg-dev
xserver-xorg-legacy
xvfb
xserver-xorg-input-aiptek
xserver-xorg-input-elographics
xserver-xorg-input-joystick
xserver-xorg-input-joystick-dev
xserver-xorg-input-kbd
xserver-xorg-input-mutouch
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-dev
xserver-xorg-input-void
xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu-dbg
xserver-xorg-video-ast
xserver-xorg-video-ati-dbg
xserver-xorg-video-radeon-dbg
xserver-xorg-video-dummy
xserver-xorg-video-glide
xserver-xorg-video-intel-dbg
xserver-xorg-video-mach64-dbg
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau-dbg
xserver-xorg-video-r128-dbg
fglrx-driver
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-304xx
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-340xx

And I sure might yet need some of those...
And diffing the first field of the complete listing (already given above):
# apt-cache search xserver| awk '{ print $1}' >> xserver-org_ALL
[diffing] this:
# cat xserver-org_ALL

isdnvboxserver
tigervnc-standalone-server
tightvncserver
x11-xserver-utils
xserver-xorg-input-mtrack
xserver-xorg-input-multitouch
xserver-xorg-input-wacom
xserver-xorg-input-xwiimote
xserver-xorg
xserver-xorg-input-all
xserver-xorg-video-all
xnest
xserver-common
xserver-xephyr
xserver-xorg-core
xserver-xorg-dev
xserver-xorg-legacy
xvfb
xserver-xorg-input-aiptek
xserver-xorg-input-elographics
xserver-xorg-input-evdev
xserver-xorg-input-evdev-dbg
xserver-xorg-input-evdev-dev
xserver-xorg-input-joystick
xserver-xorg-input-joystick-dev
xserver-xorg-input-kbd
xserver-xorg-input-libinput
xserver-xorg-input-libinput-dev
xserver-xorg-input-mouse
xserver-xorg-input-mutouch
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-dev
xserver-xorg-input-void
xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu-dbg
xserver-xorg-video-ast
xserver-xorg-video-ati
xserver-xorg-video-ati-dbg
xserver-xorg-video-radeon
xserver-xorg-video-radeon-dbg
xserver-xorg-video-cirrus
xserver-xorg-video-dummy
xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
xserver-xorg-video-glide
xserver-xorg-video-intel
xserver-xorg-video-intel-dbg
xserver-xorg-video-mach64
xserver-xorg-video-mach64-dbg
xserver-xorg-video-mga
xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau-dbg
xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
xserver-xorg-video-qxl
xserver-xorg-video-r128
xserver-xorg-video-r128-dbg
xserver-xorg-video-savage
xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion
xserver-xorg-video-sisusb
xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
xserver-xorg-video-trident
xserver-xorg-video-vesa
xserver-xorg-video-vmware
fglrx-driver
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-304xx
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-340xx
isdnvboxserver
tigervnc-standalone-server
tightvncserver
x11-xserver-utils
xserver-xorg-input-mtrack
xserver-xorg-input-multitouch
xserver-xorg-input-wacom
xserver-xorg-input-xwiimote
xserver-xorg
xserver-xorg-input-all
xserver-xorg-video-all
xnest
xserver-common
xserver-xephyr
xserver-xorg-core
xserver-xorg-dev
xserver-xorg-legacy
xvfb
xserver-xorg-input-aiptek
xserver-xorg-input-elographics
xserver-xorg-input-evdev
xserver-xorg-input-evdev-dbg
xserver-xorg-input-evdev-dev
xserver-xorg-input-joystick
xserver-xorg-input-joystick-dev
xserver-xorg-input-kbd
xserver-xorg-input-libinput
xserver-xorg-input-libinput-dev
xserver-xorg-input-mouse
xserver-xorg-input-mutouch
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-dev
xserver-xorg-input-void
xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu-dbg
xserver-xorg-video-ast
xserver-xorg-video-ati
xserver-xorg-video-ati-dbg
xserver-xorg-video-radeon
xserver-xorg-video-radeon-dbg
xserver-xorg-video-cirrus
xserver-xorg-video-dummy
xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
xserver-xorg-video-glide
xserver-xorg-video-intel
xserver-xorg-video-intel-dbg
xserver-xorg-video-mach64
xserver-xorg-video-mach64-dbg
xserver-xorg-video-mga
xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau-dbg
xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
xserver-xorg-video-qxl
xserver-xorg-video-r128
xserver-xorg-video-r128-dbg
xserver-xorg-video-savage
xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion
xserver-xorg-video-sisusb
xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
xserver-xorg-video-trident
xserver-xorg-video-vesa
xserver-xorg-video-vmware
fglrx-driver
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-304xx
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-legacy-340xx

with the listing of what is not installed, like this:
# diff xserver-org_NOT_installed xserver-org_ALL | grep '> ' | sed 's/> //' >> xserver-org_INSTALLED
And this list is important for my solving of this issue:
# cat xserver-org_INSTALLED

x11-xserver-utils
xserver-xorg-input-wacom
xserver-xorg
xserver-xorg-input-all
xserver-xorg-video-all
xserver-common
xserver-xorg-core
xserver-xorg-input-evdev
xserver-xorg-input-evdev-dbg
xserver-xorg-input-evdev-dev
xserver-xorg-input-libinput
xserver-xorg-input-libinput-dev
xserver-xorg-input-mouse
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
xserver-xorg-video-ati
xserver-xorg-video-radeon
xserver-xorg-video-cirrus
xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
xserver-xorg-video-intel
xserver-xorg-video-mach64
xserver-xorg-video-mga
xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
xserver-xorg-video-qxl
xserver-xorg-video-r128
xserver-xorg-video-savage
xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion
xserver-xorg-video-sisusb
xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
xserver-xorg-video-trident
xserver-xorg-video-vesa
xserver-xorg-video-vmware

I can now iterate each item of that list with apt-cache policy:
# for i in $(cat xserver-org_INSTALLED); do apt-cache policy $i >> this_text_that_you_re_reading ; done ;

x11-xserver-utils:
  Installed: 7.7+7+b1
  Candidate: 7.7+7+b1
  Version table:
 *** 7.7+7+b1 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-input-wacom:
  Installed: 0.34.0-1
  Candidate: 0.34.0-1
  Version table:
 *** 0.34.0-1 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg:
  Installed: 1:7.7+19
  Candidate: 1:7.7+19
  Version table:
 *** 1:7.7+19 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-input-all:
  Installed: 1:7.7+19
  Candidate: 1:7.7+19
  Version table:
 *** 1:7.7+19 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-video-all:
  Installed: 1:7.7+19
  Candidate: 1:7.7+19
  Version table:
 *** 1:7.7+19 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-common:
  Installed: 2:1.19.3-1
  Candidate: 2:1.19.3-1
  Version table:
 *** 2:1.19.3-1 100
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     2:1.19.2-1 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
xserver-xorg-core:
  Installed: 2:1.19.3-1
  Candidate: 2:1.19.3-1
  Version table:
 *** 2:1.19.3-1 100
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     2:1.19.2-1 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
xserver-xorg-input-evdev:
  Installed: 1:2.10.5-1
  Candidate: 1:2.10.5-1
  Version table:
 *** 1:2.10.5-1 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-input-evdev-dbg:
  Installed: 1:2.10.5-1
  Candidate: 1:2.10.5-1
  Version table:
 *** 1:2.10.5-1 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-input-evdev-dev:
  Installed: 1:2.10.5-1
  Candidate: 1:2.10.5-1
  Version table:
 *** 1:2.10.5-1 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-input-libinput:
  Installed: 0.23.0-2
  Candidate: 0.23.0-2
  Version table:
 *** 0.23.0-2 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-input-libinput-dev:
  Installed: 0.23.0-2
  Candidate: 0.23.0-2
  Version table:
 *** 0.23.0-2 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-input-mouse:
  Installed: 1:1.9.2-1+b1
  Candidate: 1:1.9.2-1+b1
  Version table:
 *** 1:1.9.2-1+b1 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics:
  Installed: 1.9.0-1+b1
  Candidate: 1.9.0-1+b1
  Version table:
 *** 1.9.0-1+b1 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu:
  Installed: 1.2.0-1+b1
  Candidate: 1.2.0-1+b1
  Version table:
 *** 1.2.0-1+b1 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     1.2.0-1~bpo8+1 100
        100 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports/main amd64 Packages
xserver-xorg-video-ati:
  Installed: 1:7.8.0-1+b1
  Candidate: 1:7.8.0-1+b1
  Version table:
 *** 1:7.8.0-1+b1 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     1:7.8.0-1~bpo8+1 100
        100 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports/main amd64 Packages
xserver-xorg-video-radeon:
  Installed: 1:7.8.0-1+b1
  Candidate: 1:7.8.0-1+b1
  Version table:
 *** 1:7.8.0-1+b1 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     1:7.8.0-1~bpo8+1 100
        100 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports/main amd64 Packages
xserver-xorg-video-cirrus:
  Installed: 1:1.5.3-1+b2
  Candidate: 1:1.5.3-1+b2
  Version table:
 *** 1:1.5.3-1+b2 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-video-fbdev:
  Installed: 1:0.4.4-1+b5
  Candidate: 1:0.4.4-1+b5
  Version table:
 *** 1:0.4.4-1+b5 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-video-intel:
  Installed: 2:2.99.917+git20161206-1
  Candidate: 2:2.99.917+git20161206-1
  Version table:
 *** 2:2.99.917+git20161206-1 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     2:2.99.917+git20161206-1~bpo8+1 100
        100 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports/main amd64 Packages
xserver-xorg-video-mach64:
  Installed: 6.9.5-1+b2
  Candidate: 6.9.5-1+b2
  Version table:
 *** 6.9.5-1+b2 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-video-mga:
  Installed: 1:1.6.5-1
  Candidate: 1:1.6.5-1
  Version table:
 *** 1:1.6.5-1 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-video-neomagic:
  Installed: 1:1.2.9-1+b2
  Candidate: 1:1.2.9-1+b2
  Version table:
 *** 1:1.2.9-1+b2 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau:
  Installed: 1:1.0.13-3
  Candidate: 1:1.0.13-3
  Version table:
 *** 1:1.0.13-3 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-video-openchrome:
  Installed: 1:0.5.0-3
  Candidate: 1:0.5.0-3
  Version table:
 *** 1:0.5.0-3 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-video-qxl:
  Installed: 0.1.5-2
  Candidate: 0.1.5-2
  Version table:
 *** 0.1.5-2 100
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     0.1.4+20161126git4d7160c-1 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
xserver-xorg-video-r128:
  Installed: 6.10.2-1
  Candidate: 6.10.2-1
  Version table:
 *** 6.10.2-1 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-video-savage:
  Installed: 1:2.3.9-1
  Candidate: 1:2.3.9-1
  Version table:
 *** 1:2.3.9-1 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion:
  Installed: 1:1.7.9-2
  Candidate: 1:1.7.9-2
  Version table:
 *** 1:1.7.9-2 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-video-sisusb:
  Installed: 1:0.9.7-1
  Candidate: 1:0.9.7-1
  Version table:
 *** 1:0.9.7-1 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-video-tdfx:
  Installed: 1:1.4.7-1
  Candidate: 1:1.4.7-1
  Version table:
 *** 1:1.4.7-1 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-video-trident:
  Installed: 1:1.3.8-1
  Candidate: 1:1.3.8-1
  Version table:
 *** 1:1.3.8-1 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-video-vesa:
  Installed: 1:2.3.4-1+b2
  Candidate: 1:2.3.4-1+b2
  Version table:
 *** 1:2.3.4-1+b2 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
xserver-xorg-video-vmware:
  Installed: 1:13.2.1-1+b1
  Candidate: 1:13.2.1-1+b1
  Version table:
 *** 1:13.2.1-1+b1 500
        500 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

And now, to give complete info to start with, I have tried two different ATI (AMD) cards, and it's these, again I marked them with i, ii and ii by verbosity:

i) # lspci | grep VGA

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV370 [Radeon X300]

ii) # lspci -v | grep -A16 'VGA compatible controller'

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV370 [Radeon X300] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
        Subsystem: PC Partner Limited / Sapphire Technology RV370 [Radeon X300]
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 27, NUMA node 0
        Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
        I/O ports at ce00 [size=256]
        Memory at dfdf0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
        [virtual] Expansion ROM at 000c0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
        Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
        Capabilities: [58] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
        Capabilities: [80] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
        Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting
        Kernel driver in use: radeon

iii # lspci -v -v | grep -A49 'VGA compatible controller'

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV370 [Radeon X300] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
        Subsystem: PC Partner Limited / Sapphire Technology RV370 [Radeon X300]
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 4 bytes
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 27
        NUMA node: 0
        Region 0: Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
        Region 1: I/O ports at ce00 [size=256]
        Region 2: Memory at dfdf0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
        [virtual] Expansion ROM at 000c0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
        Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 NoSoftRst- PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
        Capabilities: [58] Express (v1) Endpoint, MSI 00
                DevCap: MaxPayload 128 bytes, PhantFunc 0, Latency L0s <256ns, L1 <4us
                        ExtTag+ AttnBtn- AttnInd- PwrInd- RBE- FLReset- SlotPowerLimit 0.000W
                DevCtl: Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported-
                        RlxdOrd+ ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop+
                        MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes
                DevSta: CorrErr- UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq- AuxPwr- TransPend-
                LnkCap: Port #0, Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x16, ASPM L0s L1, Exit Latency L0s <256ns, L1 <2us
                        ClockPM- Surprise- LLActRep- BwNot- ASPMOptComp-
                LnkCtl: ASPM Disabled; RCB 64 bytes Disabled- CommClk-
                        ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
                LnkSta: Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x16, TrErr- Train- SlotClk+ DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
        Capabilities: [80] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
                Address: 00000000fee0100c  Data: 41d1
        Capabilities: [100 v1] Advanced Error Reporting
                UESta:  DLP- SDES- TLP- FCP- CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF- MalfTLP- ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol-
                UEMsk:  DLP- SDES- TLP- FCP- CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF- MalfTLP- ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol-
                UESvrt: DLP+ SDES- TLP- FCP+ CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF+ MalfTLP+ ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol-
                CESta:  RxErr- BadTLP- BadDLLP- Rollover- Timeout- NonFatalErr-
                CEMsk:  RxErr- BadTLP- BadDLLP- Rollover- Timeout- NonFatalErr-
                AERCap: First Error Pointer: 00, GenCap- CGenEn- ChkCap- ChkEn-
        Kernel driver in use: radeon

So that one is obviously RV370 Radeon X300. It worked before the xserver-org update...

And I also tried, and that one is currently in the master Air-Gapped system another ATI (AMD) card, obviously Sapphire Turks Radeon HD 6570 or so:

i) # lspci | grep VGA

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Turks PRO [Radeon HD 6570/7570/8550]

ii) # lspci -v | grep -A13 'VGA compatible controller'

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Turks PRO [Radeon HD 6570/7570/8550] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
        Subsystem: PC Partner Limited / Sapphire Technology Turks PRO [Radeon HD 6570/7570/8550]
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 31, NUMA node 0
        Memory at c0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
        Memory at dfdc0000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128K]
        I/O ports at ce00 [size=256]
        [virtual] Expansion ROM at 000c0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
        Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3
        Capabilities: [58] Express Legacy Endpoint, MSI 00
        Capabilities: [a0] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
        Capabilities: [100] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0001 Rev=1 Len=010 <?>
        Capabilities: [150] Advanced Error Reporting
        Kernel driver in use: radeon
        Kernel modules: radeon

iii # lspci -v -v | grep -A45 'VGA compatible controller'

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Turks PRO [Radeon HD 6570/7570/8550] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
        Subsystem: PC Partner Limited / Sapphire Technology Turks PRO [Radeon HD 6570/7570/8550]
        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
        Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 4 bytes
        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 31
        NUMA node: 0
        Region 0: Memory at c0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
        Region 2: Memory at dfdc0000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128K]
        Region 4: I/O ports at ce00 [size=256]
        [virtual] Expansion ROM at 000c0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
        Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3
                Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
                Status: D0 NoSoftRst- PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
        Capabilities: [58] Express (v2) Legacy Endpoint, MSI 00
                DevCap: MaxPayload 256 bytes, PhantFunc 0, Latency L0s <4us, L1 unlimited
                        ExtTag+ AttnBtn- AttnInd- PwrInd- RBE+ FLReset-
                DevCtl: Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported-
                        RlxdOrd+ ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop+
                        MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 512 bytes
                DevSta: CorrErr+ UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq+ AuxPwr- TransPend-
                LnkCap: Port #0, Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x16, ASPM L0s L1, Exit Latency L0s <64ns, L1 <1us
                        ClockPM- Surprise- LLActRep- BwNot- ASPMOptComp-
                LnkCtl: ASPM Disabled; RCB 64 bytes Disabled- CommClk+
                        ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
                LnkSta: Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x16, TrErr- Train- SlotClk+ DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
                DevCap2: Completion Timeout: Not Supported, TimeoutDis-, LTR-, OBFF Not Supported
                DevCtl2: Completion Timeout: 50us to 50ms, TimeoutDis-, LTR-, OBFF Disabled
                LnkCtl2: Target Link Speed: 2.5GT/s, EnterCompliance- SpeedDis-
                         Transmit Margin: Normal Operating Range, EnterModifiedCompliance- ComplianceSOS-
                         Compliance De-emphasis: -6dB
                LnkSta2: Current De-emphasis Level: -6dB, EqualizationComplete-, EqualizationPhase1-
                         EqualizationPhase2-, EqualizationPhase3-, LinkEqualizationRequest-
        Capabilities: [a0] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
                Address: 00000000fee0100c  Data: 41a2
        Capabilities: [100 v1] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0001 Rev=1 Len=010 <?>
        Capabilities: [150 v1] Advanced Error Reporting
                UESta:  DLP- SDES- TLP- FCP- CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF- MalfTLP- ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol-
                UEMsk:  DLP- SDES- TLP- FCP- CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF- MalfTLP- ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol-
                UESvrt: DLP+ SDES+ TLP- FCP+ CmpltTO- CmpltAbrt- UnxCmplt- RxOF+ MalfTLP+ ECRC- UnsupReq- ACSViol-
                CESta:  RxErr- BadTLP- BadDLLP- Rollover- Timeout- NonFatalErr+
                CEMsk:  RxErr- BadTLP- BadDLLP- Rollover- Timeout- NonFatalErr+
                AERCap: First Error Pointer: 00, GenCap+ CGenEn- ChkCap+ ChkEn-
        Kernel driver in use: radeon
        Kernel modules: radeon

I figured out in my last attempt with proprietary drivers, which I would actually prefer if I can uninstall and get clean from blobs, that radeon wouldn't work, after I had... Ah, let me find those logs...

Jul  1 09:23:41 gdOv kernel: [  196.500113] [drm:atom_op_jump [radeon]] *ERROR* atombios stuck in loop for more than 5secs aborting
Jul  1 09:23:41 gdOv kernel: [  196.500180] [drm:atom_execute_table_locked [radeon]] *ERROR* atombios stuck executing C7CA (len 62, WS 0, PS 0) @ 0xC7E6
Jul  1 09:23:41 gdOv kernel: [  201.512088] [drm:atom_op_jump [radeon]] *ERROR* atombios stuck in loop for more than 5secs aborting
Jul  1 09:23:41 gdOv kernel: [  201.512119] [drm:atom_execute_table_locked [radeon]] *ERROR* atombios stuck executing C7CA (len 62, WS 0, PS 0) @ 0xC7E6
Jul  1 09:23:41 gdOv kernel: [  201.512148] [drm:atom_execute_table_locked [radeon]] *ERROR* atombios stuck executing BE74 (len 1136, WS 0, PS 0) @ 0xBF06
Jul  1 09:36:49 gdOv kernel: [    0.000000] Linux version 4.9.0-3-amd64 (debian-kernel@lists.debian.org) (gcc version 6.3.0 20170516 (Debian 6.3.0-18) ) #1 SMP Debian 4.9.30-2 (2017-06-12)
Jul  1 09:36:49 gdOv kernel: [    0.000000] Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-4.9.0-3-amd64 root=UUID=f46b1de9-a789-4b9f-b2d8-224fba3de440 ro quiet

BTW, the last two lines 13 minutes after the last "...atombios..." line are my system rebooting... Namely, those errors there was last the logs got. Total freeze. And tho
se kind of times are nerve-recking...

And I got it that I would need to blacklist radeon (but I'd very much prefer to go back to free drivers if possible), because one of my last tries was to install fglrx-driver:
# apt-get install fglrx-driver

Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 fglrx-driver : Depends: xorg-video-abi-19 but it is not installable or
                         xorg-video-abi-18 but it is not installable or
                         xorg-video-abi-15 but it is not installable or
                         xorg-video-abi-14 but it is not installable or
                         xorg-video-abi-13 but it is not installable or
                         xorg-video-abi-12 but it is not installable or
                         xorg-video-abi-11 but it is not installable or
                         xorg-video-abi-10 but it is not installable or
                         xorg-video-abi-8 but it is not installable or
                         xorg-video-abi-6.0 but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

And that led me to:
fglrx-driver: broken depends on xorg-video-abi-18
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=784903
and:
AMD/ATI Proprietary Driver
https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary

But, again, I'd very much like to, now that I'm dedicating serious time to it, and I hope it might be helpful to other Devuaners as well, [to] go complete free drivers way...

#157 Re: Installation » How2instl TorBrowser in Ascii? NOT frm Stretch bakprts! [PARTLY SOLVED » 2017-07-01 14:37:23

miroR

It's better to make a new post (than as I suggested, updating the previous).

I use:

$ uname -r
4.9.27-unofficial+grsec170512-22

And similar to what is read in this topic:

Can't launch hardend browser with Grsecurity
https://tor.stackexchange.com/questions … grsecurity
( asked Nov 21 '16 at 21:53 )

IOW (but these are years old):
PaX: Max. per-task virtual memory too small for llvm asan and gcc-4.8 asan
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=458706

The fix had been proposed (years old):
PaX and Clang sanitizers, or some random notes on the crossbreeding of adders and hedgehogs
http://endl.ch/clang-sanitizers-with-pax

but it is unclear if anything came out of it.

I wrote that it was "similar to what is read" in that topic. But instead, I only see:

Launching './Browser/start-tor-browser --detach'...

and I don't get any useful info in the logs either.

But no message about memory failure, or segmentation or abort or similar appears in my logs... Nothing useful whatsoever. Just silent failure. But that could be a cosmetic not-show. I've seen such behavior...

But I can easily use Tor with:

$ uname -r
4.9.0-3-amd64

(I just tested it)... Except, I don't trust non-grsec kernels...

I'll try, soon, or later (I have other issues as well that are at some moments of disheartenment shattering my nerves at this time), I'll try and see if corsac's grsec kernel (the official grsec kernels in Debian/Devuan below are his work)
(
which I finally discovered was an apt-get install away for me --my jolly imaginativeness!-- ...

# apt-cache search grsec
gradm2 - Administration program for the grsecurity2 RBAC based ACL system
linux-grsec-source-4.9 - Linux kernel source for version 4.9 with Debian patches
linux-grsec-support-4.9.0-2 - Support files for Linux 4.9
linux-headers-4.9.0-2-common-grsec - Common header files for Linux 4.9.0-2-grsec
linux-headers-4.9.0-2-grsec-amd64 - Header files for Linux 4.9.0-2-grsec-amd64
linux-image-4.9.0-2-grsec-amd64 - Linux 4.9 for 64-bit PCs, Grsecurity protection
linux-grsec-base - Linux image base package, grsec featureset
linux-headers-grsec-amd64 - Header files for Linux amd64 configuration, grsec featureset (meta-package)
linux-image-grsec-amd64 - Linux image meta-package, grsec featureset
linux-image-4.9.27-unofficial+grsec170512-22 - Linux kernel, version 4.9.27-unofficial+grsec170512-22
linux-headers-4.9.27-unofficial+grsec170512-22 - Linux kernel headers for 4.9.27-unofficial+grsec170512-22 on amd64
#

< the bottom ones are what I installed from github minipli repo >
)
I'll try and see if corsac's grsec kernel can deal with torbrowser-launcher...

Tor, well: privacy, is my long term need. Maybe not soon, but I will be back for the solution to this.

#158 Re: Installation » How2instl TorBrowser in Ascii? NOT frm Stretch bakprts! [PARTLY SOLVED » 2017-07-01 11:32:25

miroR
GNUser wrote:

Why not just use the portable TorBrowser for GNU/Linux available here?

I tested it on Devuan Jessie and it works fine. It should run on Devuan ASCII just as well.

In other words, what I already have downloaded a few (too many) times and for some reason could not be verified even though it was correct download...
...That is already useable as is...
Aaahhh... How imaginative I am.
But thanks! GNUser for filling up for my unimaginativeness... In case that will work...
...
Let me see...

Ah, I forgot I have to close this Palemoon browser... And see if it will work... May be (actually I hope to be) back to complete this post... (but maybe not in a minute, engaged with other issues).

#159 Re: Installation » How2instl TorBrowser in Ascii? NOT frm Stretch bakprts! [PARTLY SOLVED » 2017-06-30 16:16:23

miroR

Nope! And it's somewhat similar symptoms.

The download can manually be verified to be correct, but somehow the launcher can't get it that it verifies correctly. Again it downloads good tar.gz, but can't understand that it is good:

mr@gdOv:~/.cache/torbrowser/download$ gpg --verify tor-browser-linux64-7.0.1_en-US.tar.xz.asc tor-browser-linux64-7.0.1_en-US.tar.xz
gpg: Signature made Mon 12 Jun 2017 17:37:03 UTC
gpg:                using RSA key D1483FA6C3C07136
gpg: Good signature from "Tor Browser Developers (signing key) <torbrowser@torproject.org>" [unknown]
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
Primary key fingerprint: EF6E 286D DA85 EA2A 4BA7  DE68 4E2C 6E87 9329 8290
     Subkey fingerprint: A430 0A6B C93C 0877 A445  1486 D148 3FA6 C3C0 7136
mr@gdOv:~/.cache/torbrowser/download$

And that's real paste. That part is similar to already seen at:
< this same topic >
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2701#p2701

However, the GTK window, while it shows similar enscripts, can be at least Ctrl-C killed once I bring it to the foreground (the command torbrowser-launcher) in it's terminal.

What to try next... I think I will even reboot the machine, in case it's some remnant in cache from the previous wrong install...

#160 Re: Installation » How2instl TorBrowser in Ascii? NOT frm Stretch bakprts! [PARTLY SOLVED » 2017-06-30 16:05:00

miroR

But give me more time if it works... So I can enjoy Tor a little, first. You, know, I have to shut down Palemoon all the way, else it's bad...

BTW, this is what I got:

# apt-cache policy torbrowser-launcher 

torbrowser-launcher:
  Installed: 0.2.6-2~bpo8+1
  Candidate: 0.2.6-2~bpo8+1
  Version table:
 *** 0.2.6-2~bpo8+1 100
        100 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-backports/contrib amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

#161 Re: Installation » How2instl TorBrowser in Ascii? NOT frm Stretch bakprts! [PARTLY SOLVED » 2017-06-30 16:02:59

miroR

# apt-get update |& tee LOG_/apt-get_update_$(date +%y%m%d_%H%M)_$(hostname).log

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#

# apt-get install torbrowser-launcher |& tee LOG_/apt-get_torbrowser-launcher_$(date +%y%m%d_%H%M)_$(hostname).log

Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following additional packages will be installed:
  python-attr python-cffi-backend python-constantly python-cryptography
  python-enum34 python-idna python-incremental python-ipaddress python-lzma
  python-openssl python-parsley python-psutil python-pyasn1
  python-pyasn1-modules python-service-identity python-setuptools
  python-twisted python-twisted-bin python-twisted-core python-txsocksx
  python-zope.interface wmctrl
Suggested packages:
  python-attr-doc python-cryptography-doc python-cryptography-vectors
  python-enum34-doc python-openssl-doc python-openssl-dbg python-psutil-doc
  doc-base python-setuptools-doc python-twisted-bin-dbg python-tk python-qt3
  python-wxgtk3.0 apparmor python-pygame
Recommended packages:
  python-click python-pam python-serial tor
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  python-attr python-cffi-backend python-constantly python-cryptography
  python-enum34 python-idna python-incremental python-ipaddress python-lzma
  python-openssl python-parsley python-psutil python-pyasn1
  python-pyasn1-modules python-service-identity python-setuptools
  python-twisted python-twisted-bin python-twisted-core python-txsocksx
  python-zope.interface torbrowser-launcher wmctrl
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Preparing to unpack .../09-python-incremental_16.10.1-3_all.deb ...
Unpacking python-incremental (16.10.1-3) ...
Selecting previously unselected package python-lzma.
Preparing to unpack .../10-python-lzma_0.5.3-3_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking python-lzma (0.5.3-3) ...
Selecting previously unselected package python-openssl.
Preparing to unpack .../11-python-openssl_16.2.0-1_all.deb ...
Unpacking python-openssl (16.2.0-1) ...
Selecting previously unselected package python-psutil.
Preparing to unpack .../12-python-psutil_5.0.1-1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking python-psutil (5.0.1-1) ...
Selecting previously unselected package python-pyasn1-modules.
Preparing to unpack .../13-python-pyasn1-modules_0.0.7-0.1_all.deb ...
Unpacking python-pyasn1-modules (0.0.7-0.1) ...
Selecting previously unselected package python-service-identity.
Preparing to unpack .../14-python-service-identity_16.0.0-2_all.deb ...
Unpacking python-service-identity (16.0.0-2) ...
Selecting previously unselected package python-twisted-bin:amd64.
Preparing to unpack .../15-python-twisted-bin_16.6.0-2_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking python-twisted-bin:amd64 (16.6.0-2) ...
Selecting previously unselected package python-zope.interface.
Preparing to unpack .../16-python-zope.interface_4.3.2-1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking python-zope.interface (4.3.2-1) ...
Selecting previously unselected package python-twisted-core.
Preparing to unpack .../17-python-twisted-core_16.6.0-2_all.deb ...
Unpacking python-twisted-core (16.6.0-2) ...
Selecting previously unselected package python-twisted.
Preparing to unpack .../18-python-twisted_16.6.0-2_all.deb ...
Unpacking python-twisted (16.6.0-2) ...
Selecting previously unselected package wmctrl.
Preparing to unpack .../19-wmctrl_1.07-7+b1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking wmctrl (1.07-7+b1) ...
Selecting previously unselected package python-parsley.
Preparing to unpack .../20-python-parsley_1.2-1_all.deb ...
Unpacking python-parsley (1.2-1) ...
Selecting previously unselected package python-txsocksx.
Preparing to unpack .../21-python-txsocksx_1.15.0.2-1_all.deb ...
Unpacking python-txsocksx (1.15.0.2-1) ...
Selecting previously unselected package torbrowser-launcher.
Preparing to unpack .../22-torbrowser-launcher_0.2.6-2~bpo8+1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking torbrowser-launcher (0.2.6-2~bpo8+1) ...
Setting up python-idna (2.2-1) ...
Setting up python-setuptools (33.1.1-1) ...
Setting up python-attr (16.3.0-1) ...
Setting up python-lzma (0.5.3-3) ...
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.60) ...
Setting up python-pyasn1 (0.1.9-2) ...
Setting up wmctrl (1.07-7+b1) ...
Setting up python-twisted-bin:amd64 (16.6.0-2) ...
Processing triggers for menu (2.1.47+b1) ...
Setting up python-pyasn1-modules (0.0.7-0.1) ...
Setting up python-cffi-backend (1.9.1-2) ...
Setting up python-incremental (16.10.1-3) ...
Setting up python-parsley (1.2-1) ...
Setting up python-constantly (15.1.0-1) ...
Setting up python-zope.interface (4.3.2-1) ...
Setting up python-psutil (5.0.1-1) ...
Setting up python-enum34 (1.1.6-1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.6.1-2) ...
Setting up python-ipaddress (1.0.17-1) ...
Setting up python-cryptography (1.7.1-3) ...
Setting up python-openssl (16.2.0-1) ...
Setting up python-service-identity (16.0.0-2) ...
Setting up python-twisted-core (16.6.0-2) ...
Setting up python-twisted (16.6.0-2) ...
Setting up python-txsocksx (1.15.0.2-1) ...
Setting up torbrowser-launcher (0.2.6-2~bpo8+1) ...
Processing triggers for menu (2.1.47+b1) ...
2017/06/30 15:55:53 Reading config from: /etc/paxrat/paxrat.conf

I'll next report if it works...

#162 Re: Installation » How2instl TorBrowser in Ascii? NOT frm Stretch bakprts! [PARTLY SOLVED » 2017-06-30 15:51:09

miroR

So, it this, yes it must be, how jessie-backports are added:
Devuan stable and Skylake (and Kaby Lake?) integrated GPU - backports
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=542

So I'll add:

malinas wrote:

Adding jessie-backports
...

# echo 'deb http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-backports main contrib non-free' \
    > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/jessie-backports.list

exactly that line, and with that echo command to what will be my newly created file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/.

And I'll do the rest as reads there, and report back. Be it success or failure. I promise. I don't hide things...

#163 Re: Installation » How2instl TorBrowser in Ascii? NOT frm Stretch bakprts! [PARTLY SOLVED » 2017-06-30 15:47:13

miroR

For the /etc/apt to be back as previously, it only took removing the ... debian.org/debian jessie-backports ... entry previously introduced. That was all for that part.

This is from my apt-get logs (from some almost five hours ago now...):

# cat LOG_/apt-get_torbrowser-launcher_170630_1050_gdOv.log  | grep -A7 'NEW packages will be installed'
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  python-attr python-cffi-backend python-constantly python-cryptography
  python-enum34 python-idna python-incremental python-ipaddress python-lzma
  python-openssl python-parsley python-psutil python-pyasn1
  python-pyasn1-modules python-service-identity python-setuptools
  python-twisted python-twisted-bin python-twisted-core python-txsocksx
  python-zope.interface torbrowser-launcher wmctrl
0 upgraded, 23 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.

And I'll make a listing to uninstall those packages (without the first and last line of the above. In one go:

# apt-get remove \
  python-attr python-cffi-backend python-constantly python-cryptography \
  python-enum34 python-idna python-incremental python-ipaddress python-lzma \
  python-openssl python-parsley python-psutil python-pyasn1 \
  python-pyasn1-modules python-service-identity python-setuptools \
  python-twisted python-twisted-bin python-twisted-core python-txsocksx \
  python-zope.interface torbrowser-launcher wmctrl \
|& tee LOG_/apt-get_torbrowser-launcher_$(date +%y%m%d_%H%M)_$(hostname).log

And:

Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  python-attr python-cffi-backend python-constantly python-cryptography
  python-enum34 python-idna python-incremental python-ipaddress python-lzma
  python-openssl python-parsley python-psutil python-pyasn1
  python-pyasn1-modules python-service-identity python-setuptools
  python-twisted python-twisted-bin python-twisted-core python-txsocksx
  python-zope.interface torbrowser-launcher wmctrl
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 23 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
After this operation, 19.9 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

Enter.

(Reading database ... 96771 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing torbrowser-launcher (0.2.6-2~bpo8+1) ...
Removing python-txsocksx (1.15.0.2-1) ...
Removing python-twisted (16.6.0-2) ...
Removing python-twisted-core (16.6.0-2) ...
Removing python-service-identity (16.0.0-2) ...
Removing python-attr (16.3.0-1) ...
Removing python-openssl (16.2.0-1) ...
Removing python-cryptography (1.7.1-3) ...
Removing python-cffi-backend (1.9.1-2) ...
Removing python-constantly (15.1.0-1) ...
Removing python-enum34 (1.1.6-1) ...
Removing python-idna (2.2-1) ...
Removing python-incremental (16.10.1-3) ...
Removing python-ipaddress (1.0.17-1) ...
Removing python-lzma (0.5.3-3) ...
Removing python-parsley (1.2-1) ...
Removing python-psutil (5.0.1-1) ...
Removing python-pyasn1-modules (0.0.7-0.1) ...
Removing python-pyasn1 (0.1.9-2) ...
Removing python-setuptools (33.1.1-1) ...
Removing python-twisted-bin:amd64 (16.6.0-2) ...
Removing python-zope.interface (4.3.2-1) ...
Removing wmctrl (1.07-7+b1) ...
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.60) ...
Processing triggers for menu (2.1.47+b1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.6.1-2) ...
2017/06/30 15:24:21 Reading config from: /etc/paxrat/paxrat.conf

Uninstalled... But the /var/cache/ and /var/lib/apt/ may not be in good condition just for that...

I'll compare them with the known good points from my previous post. I will first take another snapshot of each of the two.

And as far as the state of those two /var/ directories, I tested it on the snapshots (which I'm not reporting now), but here's my rsyncing of them now:
# rsync -av --delete var_cache_170630_1050_gdO/cache/  /var/cache/

sending incremental file list
deleting apt/archives/wmctrl_1.07-7+b1_amd64.deb
deleting apt/archives/torbrowser-launcher_0.2.6-2~bpo8+1_amd64.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-zope.interface_4.3.2-1_amd64.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-txsocksx_1.15.0.2-1_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-twisted_16.6.0-2_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-twisted-core_16.6.0-2_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-twisted-bin_16.6.0-2_amd64.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-setuptools_33.1.1-1_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-service-identity_16.0.0-2_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-pyasn1_0.1.9-2_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-pyasn1-modules_0.0.7-0.1_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-psutil_5.0.1-1_amd64.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-parsley_1.2-1_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-openssl_16.2.0-1_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-lzma_0.5.3-3_amd64.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-ipaddress_1.0.17-1_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-incremental_16.10.1-3_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-idna_2.2-1_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-enum34_1.1.6-1_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-cryptography_1.7.1-3_amd64.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-constantly_15.1.0-1_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-cffi-backend_1.9.1-2_amd64.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-attr_16.3.0-1_all.deb
apt/
apt/pkgcache.bin
apt/srcpkgcache.bin
apt/archives/
apt/archives/partial/
man/
man/index.db
man/ca/
man/cs/
man/da/
man/de/
man/es/
man/fi/
man/fr/
man/hu/
man/id/
man/it/
man/ja/
man/ko/
man/nl/
man/pl/
man/pt/
man/pt_BR/
man/ru/
man/sl/
man/sv/
man/tr/
man/uk/
man/zh_CN/
man/zh_TW/

sent 55,860,720 bytes  received 1,422 bytes  22,344,856.80 bytes/sec
total size is 419,950,533  speedup is 7.52
#

and:
# rsync -av --delete var_lib_apt_170630_0717_gdO/lib/apt/  /var/lib/apt/

sending incremental file list
./
daily_lock
extended_states
deleting lists/httpredir.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie-backports_non-free_i18n_Translation-en
deleting lists/httpredir.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie-backports_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages
deleting lists/httpredir.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie-backports_main_i18n_Translation-en
deleting lists/httpredir.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie-backports_main_binary-amd64_Packages
deleting lists/httpredir.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie-backports_contrib_i18n_Translation-en
deleting lists/httpredir.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie-backports_contrib_binary-amd64_Packages
deleting lists/httpredir.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie-backports_InRelease
lists/
lists/auto.mirror.devuan.org_merged_dists_ascii-security_InRelease
lists/auto.mirror.devuan.org_merged_dists_ascii_InRelease
lists/packages.devuan.org_devuan_dists_ascii_InRelease
lists/packages.devuan.org_merged_dists_ascii_InRelease
lists/partial/

sent 506,450 bytes  received 748 bytes  1,014,396.00 bytes/sec
total size is 147,581,076  speedup is 290.97

And those are now at exactly the state they were before I went to install torbrowser from wrong repo...
Namely:

# rsync -nav --delete var_cache_170630_1050_gdO/cache/  /var/cache/
sending incremental file list

sent 19,879 bytes  received 116 bytes  39,990.00 bytes/sec
total size is 419,950,533  speedup is 21,002.78 (DRY RUN)
# rsync -nav --delete  /var/cache/ var_cache_170630_1050_gdO/cache/
...[likewise]...
# rsync -nav --delete var_lib_apt_170630_0717_gdO/lib/apt/  /var/lib/apt/
...[likewise]...
# rsync -nav --delete  /var/lib/apt/ var_lib_apt_170630_0717_gdO/lib/apt/
...[likewise]...

So... Let's now add the right backports repo... Ah, fsmithred suggested jessie-backports. Let me search around the exact line to add it...

( Notice that I'm betting that my system is workable again... Betting only. I'm not completely sure smile )

#164 Re: Installation » How2instl TorBrowser in Ascii? NOT frm Stretch bakprts! [PARTLY SOLVED » 2017-06-30 15:07:45

miroR

Allow me to point the reader again towards right at the start of that Air-Gapped Devuan Install, because I started that topic with taking (I think the right word here is snapshot) snapshots of /var/cache/ and /var/lib/apt.

And I used those snapshots to Air-Gap install my Devuan in my master.

I kept taking such snapshot at every new update today, and by simply comparing those snapshots, along with removing the potentially offending Debian packages (important!), I think I will be able to revert the status that Mr Apt sees and works with in such way as to have a workable system again.

Because the Debian torbrowser-launcher that I installed a few hours ago does appear to be a sore in my system!

So, if I look up these two, one way and the other, here:
# rsync -nav --delete var_lib_apt_170630_1050_gdO/lib/apt/  var_lib_apt_170630_0717_gdO/lib/apt/

sending incremental file list
daily_lock
lists/
lists/auto.mirror.devuan.org_merged_dists_ascii-security_InRelease
lists/auto.mirror.devuan.org_merged_dists_ascii_InRelease
lists/httpredir.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie-backports_InRelease
lists/httpredir.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie-backports_contrib_binary-amd64_Packages
lists/httpredir.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie-backports_contrib_i18n_Translation-en
lists/httpredir.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie-backports_main_binary-amd64_Packages
lists/httpredir.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie-backports_main_i18n_Translation-en
lists/httpredir.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie-backports_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages
lists/httpredir.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie-backports_non-free_i18n_Translation-en
lists/packages.devuan.org_devuan_dists_ascii_InRelease
lists/packages.devuan.org_merged_dists_ascii_InRelease
lists/partial/

sent 1,486 bytes  received 63 bytes  3,098.00 bytes/sec
total size is 156,111,785  speedup is 100,782.30 (DRY RUN)

# rsync -nav --delete  var_lib_apt_170630_0717_gdO/lib/apt/ var_lib_apt_170630_1050_gdO/lib/apt/

sending incremental file list
daily_lock
deleting lists/httpredir.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie-backports_non-free_i18n_Translation-en
deleting lists/httpredir.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie-backports_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages
deleting lists/httpredir.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie-backports_main_i18n_Translation-en
deleting lists/httpredir.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie-backports_main_binary-amd64_Packages
deleting lists/httpredir.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie-backports_contrib_i18n_Translation-en
deleting lists/httpredir.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie-backports_contrib_binary-amd64_Packages
deleting lists/httpredir.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie-backports_InRelease
lists/
lists/auto.mirror.devuan.org_merged_dists_ascii-security_InRelease
lists/auto.mirror.devuan.org_merged_dists_ascii_InRelease
lists/packages.devuan.org_devuan_dists_ascii_InRelease
lists/packages.devuan.org_merged_dists_ascii_InRelease
lists/partial/

sent 878 bytes  received 642 bytes  3,040.00 bytes/sec
total size is 147,581,076  speedup is 97,092.81 (DRY RUN)

then I believe it's pretty obvious I got the right /var/lib/apt/ snapshot that I want to revert to in the archive of one var_lib_apt_170630_0717_gdOv.tar (var_lib_apt_170630_0717_gdO when it is untar'd)!
So I think I, after uninstalling the packages that got installed, all the packages that got installed between those two points in time. And after fixing also the /var/cache, if need be... [So I think] that I will have a consistent system again, and without those unhappy backports...

But does /var/cache need fixing? Let's see:

# rsync -nav --delete  var_cache_170630_0717_gdO/cache/ var_cache_170630_1050_gdO/cache/

sending incremental file list
apt/
apt/pkgcache.bin
apt/srcpkgcache.bin
man/
man/ca/
man/cs/
man/da/
man/de/
man/es/
man/fi/
man/fr/
man/hu/
man/id/
man/it/
man/ja/
man/ko/
man/nl/
man/pl/
man/pt/
man/pt_BR/
man/ru/
man/sl/
man/sv/
man/tr/
man/uk/
man/zh_CN/
man/zh_TW/

sent 19,958 bytes  received 199 bytes  40,314.00 bytes/sec
total size is 415,433,749  speedup is 20,609.90 (DRY RUN)

Not btwn those two points...

# rsync -nav --delete var_cache_170630_1050_gdO/cache/  var_cache_170630_1052_gdO/cache/

sending incremental file list
deleting apt/archives/wmctrl_1.07-7+b1_amd64.deb
deleting apt/archives/torbrowser-launcher_0.2.6-2~bpo8+1_amd64.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-zope.interface_4.3.2-1_amd64.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-txsocksx_1.15.0.2-1_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-twisted_16.6.0-2_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-twisted-core_16.6.0-2_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-twisted-bin_16.6.0-2_amd64.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-setuptools_33.1.1-1_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-service-identity_16.0.0-2_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-pyasn1_0.1.9-2_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-pyasn1-modules_0.0.7-0.1_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-psutil_5.0.1-1_amd64.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-parsley_1.2-1_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-openssl_16.2.0-1_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-lzma_0.5.3-3_amd64.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-ipaddress_1.0.17-1_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-incremental_16.10.1-3_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-idna_2.2-1_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-enum34_1.1.6-1_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-cryptography_1.7.1-3_amd64.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-constantly_15.1.0-1_all.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-cffi-backend_1.9.1-2_amd64.deb
deleting apt/archives/python-attr_16.3.0-1_all.deb
apt/
apt/pkgcache.bin
apt/archives/
apt/archives/partial/
man/
man/index.db
man/ca/
man/cs/
man/da/
man/de/
man/es/
man/fi/
man/fr/
man/hu/
man/id/
man/it/
man/ja/
man/ko/
man/nl/
man/pl/
man/pt/
man/pt_BR/
man/ru/
man/sl/
man/sv/
man/tr/
man/uk/
man/zh_CN/
man/zh_TW/

sent 19,968 bytes  received 1,363 bytes  42,662.00 bytes/sec
total size is 419,950,533  speedup is 19,687.33 (DRY RUN)

# rsync -nav --delete var_cache_170630_1052_gdO/cache/  var_cache_170630_1050_gdO/cache/

sending incremental file list
apt/
apt/pkgcache.bin
apt/archives/
apt/archives/python-attr_16.3.0-1_all.deb
apt/archives/python-cffi-backend_1.9.1-2_amd64.deb
apt/archives/python-constantly_15.1.0-1_all.deb
apt/archives/python-cryptography_1.7.1-3_amd64.deb
apt/archives/python-enum34_1.1.6-1_all.deb
apt/archives/python-idna_2.2-1_all.deb
apt/archives/python-incremental_16.10.1-3_all.deb
apt/archives/python-ipaddress_1.0.17-1_all.deb
apt/archives/python-lzma_0.5.3-3_amd64.deb
apt/archives/python-openssl_16.2.0-1_all.deb
apt/archives/python-parsley_1.2-1_all.deb
apt/archives/python-psutil_5.0.1-1_amd64.deb
apt/archives/python-pyasn1-modules_0.0.7-0.1_all.deb
apt/archives/python-pyasn1_0.1.9-2_all.deb
apt/archives/python-service-identity_16.0.0-2_all.deb
apt/archives/python-setuptools_33.1.1-1_all.deb
apt/archives/python-twisted-bin_16.6.0-2_amd64.deb
apt/archives/python-twisted-core_16.6.0-2_all.deb
apt/archives/python-twisted_16.6.0-2_all.deb
apt/archives/python-txsocksx_1.15.0.2-1_all.deb
apt/archives/python-zope.interface_4.3.2-1_amd64.deb
apt/archives/torbrowser-launcher_0.2.6-2~bpo8+1_amd64.deb
apt/archives/wmctrl_1.07-7+b1_amd64.deb
apt/archives/partial/
man/
man/index.db
man/ca/
man/cs/
man/da/
man/de/
man/es/
man/fi/
man/fr/
man/hu/
man/id/
man/it/
man/ja/
man/ko/
man/nl/
man/pl/
man/pt/
man/pt_BR/
man/ru/
man/sl/
man/sv/
man/tr/
man/uk/
man/zh_CN/
man/zh_TW/

sent 21,015 bytes  received 274 bytes  42,578.00 bytes/sec
total size is 423,410,509  speedup is 19,888.70 (DRY RUN)

But btwn these two. The first pair (along with the /var/lib/apt snapshots) holds the different content after: # apt-get update, the second pair the different content after # apt-get upgrade.

Ah, and also important is: I must revert the /etc/apt/ to how it was previous to this potentially costly experiment...

Let's see if I will reclaim my system or be left in un unworkable system... Give me more time.

#165 Re: Installation » How2instl TorBrowser in Ascii? NOT frm Stretch bakprts! [PARTLY SOLVED » 2017-06-30 14:01:55

miroR

Thanks again, fsmithred!

fsmithred wrote:

Sorry, I'm in a bit of a hurry, so I didn't read it all. Here's what we have in devuan. You should not use debian repositories to pull packages. You could get some unexpected surprises, and I'm talking about the unpleasant kind.

I see...
And yet, it does not look bad... some 2-3 posts back:
< this same topic >
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=773#p2699
Hmmmhhh!...

$ apt-cache policy torbrowser-launcher 
torbrowser-launcher:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 0.1.9-1+deb8u3
  Version table:
     0.2.7-2 0
        100 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ ceres/contrib amd64 Packages
     0.2.6-2~bpo8+1 0
        200 http://packages.devuan.org/merged/ jessie-backports/contrib amd64 Packages
     0.1.9-1+deb8u3 0
        500 http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie/contrib amd64 Packages

And what I now have is:

# apt-cache policy torbrowser-launcher 
torbrowser-launcher:
  Installed: 0.2.6-2~bpo8+1
  Candidate: 0.2.6-2~bpo8+1
  Version table:
 *** 0.2.6-2~bpo8+1 100
        100 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie-backports/contrib amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

If you're in jessie and want the version from backports, 

apt-get -t jessie-backports install torbrowser-launcher

Nope. Ascii it is. In the topic title as well.

I don't know why it's not in ascii. I would either try the one from jessie-backports or temporarily add ceres sources and pull it from there. More likely, I would just go to the tor site, download the latest version and unpack it in my home directory.

I see... And, let's see if som non-expert hacking can help here...
I'll try and uninstall the Debian torbrowser-launcher and manually, from backup of what:

/var/cache/

and

/var/lib/apt/

cache previously were, and which I kept kind of snapshotting...
From the backups I'll try and revert the state of my system to prior to what it was when I added the stretch-backports to it...
I'm talking about backups as I wrote about, and used for
Air-Gapped Devuan Install, Tentative
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=746
After all, I had recovered, previously, it looks to me successfully, from having had updated my Jessie with stretch... before I figured out that manual Air-Gapped method...

#166 Re: Installation » How2instl TorBrowser in Ascii? NOT frm Stretch bakprts! [PARTLY SOLVED » 2017-06-30 11:37:54

miroR

It's not that the download is bad. Nope!

It's something to do with not having verified the good download, for some reason.

Because, in the first place, I didn't have the:

$ gpg --recv-key D1483FA6C3C07136
gpg: key 4E2C6E8793298290: public key "Tor Browser Developers (signing key) <torbrowser@torproject.org>" imported
gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:               imported: 1
$

( because I did just a while ago, but after  the previous post. So now I do have that key listed.

And also:

$ gpg --verify tor-browser-linux64-7.0.1_en-US.tar.xz.asc tor-browser-linux64-7.0.1_en-US.tar.xz
gpg: Signature made Mon 12 Jun 2017 17:37:03 UTC
gpg:                using RSA key D1483FA6C3C07136
gpg: Good signature from "Tor Browser Developers (signing key) <torbrowser@torproject.org>" [unknown]
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
Primary key fingerprint: EF6E 286D DA85 EA2A 4BA7  DE68 4E2C 6E87 9329 8290
     Subkey fingerprint: A430 0A6B C93C 0877 A445  1486 D148 3FA6 C3C0 7136

it verified correctly.

However, launching tor-browser like I described in the previous post shows just the same message, and Tor doesn't start...

On top of that... the small GTK (probably) window keeps appearing... and even after:

The window "Tor Browser" does not seem to be responding. Do you want to force it to exit by sending the kill signal?

                      -----------       -----------------
                      | Cancel   |       | End Process   |
                      -----------       -----------------

any of that, it's just unkillable...

Any more tries/some-not-too-expert-hacking can be done here?

#167 Re: Installation » How2instl TorBrowser in Ascii? NOT frm Stretch bakprts! [PARTLY SOLVED » 2017-06-30 11:24:56

miroR

It says (manually copying):

SIGNATURE VERIFICATION FAILED!

You might be under attack, or there might just be a networking problem. Click Start try the download again.

-----------                             -------------
| Start   |                             | Cancel    |
-----------                             -------------

And restarting, all the 60-70MB, but... (one probably last time, for now):

the same notice in the GTK (or whatever, no that's not QT) little window, appears.

Can there be a manual way to download it?

Because I noticed it wrote:

$ torbrowser-launcher &
[1] 28681
$ Tor Browser Launcher
By Micah Lee, licensed under MIT
version 0.2.6
https://github.com/micahflee/torbrowser-launcher
Downloading and installing Tor Browser for the first time.
Downloading https://dist.torproject.org/torbrowser/update_2/release/Linux_x86_64-gcc3/x/en-US
Latest version: 7.0.1
Downloading https://www.torproject.org/dist/torbrowser/7.0.1/tor-browser-linux64-7.0.1_en-US.tar.xz.asc
Downloading https://www.torproject.org/dist/torbrowser/7.0.1/tor-browser-linux64-7.0.1_en-US.tar.xz
Verifying signature
Starting download over again
Downloading https://www.torproject.org/dist/torbrowser/7.0.1/tor-browser-linux64-7.0.1_en-US.tar.xz
Verifying signature

But how then would I trick it to... Aaah! I remembered... Let me see...

In the next post... Who knows... (Just to say, I had to Ctrl-C in the terminal after I foregrounded it, "Cancel" wouldn't do other then freeze...

#168 Re: Installation » How2instl TorBrowser in Ascii? NOT frm Stretch bakprts! [PARTLY SOLVED » 2017-06-30 11:08:44

miroR

Well, it's mostly Devuan packages that get installed:
# apt-get install torbrowser-launcher

Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following additional packages will be installed:
  python-attr python-cffi-backend python-constantly python-cryptography
  python-enum34 python-idna python-incremental python-ipaddress python-lzma
  python-openssl python-parsley python-psutil python-pyasn1
  python-pyasn1-modules python-service-identity python-setuptools
  python-twisted python-twisted-bin python-twisted-core python-txsocksx
  python-zope.interface wmctrl
Suggested packages:
  python-attr-doc python-cryptography-doc python-cryptography-vectors
  python-enum34-doc python-openssl-doc python-openssl-dbg python-psutil-doc
  doc-base python-setuptools-doc python-twisted-bin-dbg python-tk python-qt3
  python-wxgtk3.0 apparmor python-pygame
Recommended packages:
  python-click python-pam python-serial tor
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  python-attr python-cffi-backend python-constantly python-cryptography
  python-enum34 python-idna python-incremental python-ipaddress python-lzma
  python-openssl python-parsley python-psutil python-pyasn1
  python-pyasn1-modules python-service-identity python-setuptools
  python-twisted python-twisted-bin python-twisted-core python-txsocksx
  python-zope.interface torbrowser-launcher wmctrl
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2017/06/30 10:51:30 Reading config from: /etc/paxrat/paxrat.conf

But unfortunately, when it downloads torbrowser, the verification fails. Repeatedly...
...What now?...

#169 Re: Installation » How2instl TorBrowser in Ascii? NOT frm Stretch bakprts! [PARTLY SOLVED » 2017-06-30 10:32:56

miroR

And now I have to wait at least a little bit longer, because I asked about this also at:

ascii-backports? for torbrowser-launcher install WAS: heads 0.3 released!
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/2 … a7.en.html

#170 Re: Installation » How2instl TorBrowser in Ascii? NOT frm Stretch bakprts! [PARTLY SOLVED » 2017-06-30 09:46:41

miroR

While I'm waiting for any more information, I found:
..is Devuan BTS down? reportbug torbrowser-launcher likely failed for me...
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/2 … 8a.en.html

and that is the sole mention of torbrowser at this time in the Lurker search:
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/search/20 … er.en.html
well, there is also the
heads 0.3 released!
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/2 … 11.en.html
but it's only a short mention of the same package...

However I don't see there are any ascii-backports, are there? There are jessie-backports, but I'm on Ascii.

Cheers!

#171 Installation » How2instl TorBrowser in Ascii? NOT frm Stretch bakprts! [PARTLY SOLVED » 2017-06-30 09:37:07

miroR
Replies: 18

original title: How to install TorBrowser in Ascii? From Stretch backports or?
title as of 2017-07-10 17:53 UT: How to install TorBrowser in Ascii? NOT from Stretch backports! [PARTLY SOLVED]
[PARTLY SOLVED]
---
I searched but replacing "devuan" (with the quotes) for "debian" returns no results. Instead, after this search (in duckduckgo.com of course):

debian apt-get install torbrowser-launcher

I used what it gave me:
https://wiki.debian.org/TorBrowser
which, on the fact that Ascii is based on Stretch
(
up until recently that has become a little more complicated with the fact that the Testing in Debian is now Buster, see:
AMPROLLA GLITCH: ISSUE SOLVED -- PLEASE READ CAREFULLY
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/2 … ad.en.html
)
but I thought the tip on wiki.debian.org might still apply, and it reads:apt-get updat

1. If not already done add the Backport repository to your sources.list.

which I did. Like this:
# cat >> /etc/apt/sources.list

# Backports repository
deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main contrib non-free

And I ran:
# apt-get update

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Reading package lists...

But:
# apt-get install torbrowser-launcher -t stretch-backports

Reading package lists...
E: The value 'stretch-backports' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources

And so I'm considering trying this:
# apt-get install torbrowser-launcher

Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following additional packages will be installed:
  python-attr python-cffi-backend python-constantly python-cryptography
  python-enum34 python-idna python-incremental python-ipaddress python-lzma
  python-openssl python-parsley python-psutil python-pyasn1
  python-pyasn1-modules python-service-identity python-setuptools
  python-twisted python-twisted-bin python-twisted-core python-txsocksx
  python-zope.interface wmctrl
Suggested packages:
  python-attr-doc python-cryptography-doc python-cryptography-vectors
  python-enum34-doc python-openssl-doc python-openssl-dbg python-psutil-doc
  doc-base python-setuptools-doc python-twisted-bin-dbg python-tk python-qt3
  python-wxgtk3.0 apparmor python-pygame
Recommended packages:
  python-click python-pam python-serial tor
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  python-attr python-cffi-backend python-constantly python-cryptography
  python-enum34 python-idna python-incremental python-ipaddress python-lzma
  python-openssl python-parsley python-psutil python-pyasn1
  python-pyasn1-modules python-service-identity python-setuptools
  python-twisted python-twisted-bin python-twisted-core python-txsocksx
  python-zope.interface torbrowser-launcher wmctrl
0 upgraded, 23 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
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Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

I'm not completely sure. And I'll try and exercize patience for up to one half hour, to see if I get any suggestions, and then I'll try and just hit Enter to install all those listed above...

BTW, my Ascii is functioning just fine (well, maybe just a couple of glitches...). I update this one (which is the clone the following) from my Air-Gapped master Ascii Devuan, as per:
Air-Gapped Devuan Install, Tentative
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=746

That method works without any issues, so far.

#172 Re: Installation » Air-Gapped Devuan Install, Tentative » 2017-06-27 19:19:45

miroR

There is also:

Updating the Air-Gapped System
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=763

which is a depicts the regular chores that Air-Gapping implies (and there's some viri removal)...

#173 Re: Installation » Air-Gapped Devuan Install, Tentative » 2017-06-27 19:17:34

miroR

NOTE at the time of posting (which is three days later than I have written these). This is probably with added option:

--fix-missing

but I'm afraid I can not be 100% sure at this time.
---

See previous post for up to this prompt, pls.

Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
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Reading changelogs...
apt-listchanges (3.3) unstable; urgency=medium

  Short summary of the most important changes done since version 3.0 up to 3.3:

  - apt-listchanges was migrated to python3.  The "gtk" frontend now requires
    the python3-gi package to work.

  - The "browser", "xterm-pager", and "xterm-browser" frontends will now try
    to drop root privileges before spawning external commands.  This only works
    when upgrade was initiated from a regular user account with commands like
       sudo|su  apt-get|aptitude  upgrade|install|etc.

  - The way apt-listchanges cooperates with apt was slightly changed; please
    make sure to accept the new version of `/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20listchanges'
    configuration file in case dpkg prompts about the file.

  - apt-listchanges no longer supports deprecated frontends (e.g. "w3m")
    or ancient (i.e. more than about 15 years old) *.deb packages.

 -- Robert Luberda <robert@debian.org>  Mon, 15 Aug 2016 21:55:31 +0200

apt-listchanges (2.87) unstable; urgency=medium

  For better integration with package management system, apt-listchanges
  automatically switches to the non-interactive "text" frontend:
   - when the `-y'/`--assume-yes' option is passed to apt-get
   - or when DEBIAN_FRONTEND environment variable is set to "noninteractive".
  The new behavior can be disabled in the configuration file (or via the
  command-line parameters), refer to apt-listchanges(1) man page for details.

  The "mail" frontend can optionally send e-mails in the HTML format, see the
  description of `--email-format' option in the man page for more information.

  For the sake of consistency the `--all' and `--show_seen' options were
  renamed to `--show-all' and `--show-seen' respectively.

 -- Robert Luberda <robert@debian.org>  Sat, 02 Apr 2016 20:24:43 +0200

initramfs-tools (0.129) unstable; urgency=medium

  * Some systems that do not support suspend-to-disk (hibernation) will
    require a configuration change to explicitly disable this.

    From version 0.128, the boot code waits for a suspend/resume device
    to appear, rather than checking just once.  If the configured or
    automatically selected resume device is not available at boot time,
    this results in a roughly 30 second delay.

    You should set the RESUME variable in
    /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume or
    /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf to one of:

    - auto - select the resume device automatically
    - none - disable use of a resume device
    - UUID=<uuid> - use a specific resume device (by UUID)
    - /dev/<name> - use a specific resume device (by kernel name)

 -- Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>  Thu, 20 Apr 2017 23:21:32 +0100

initramfs-tools (0.121~rc1) unstable; urgency=medium

  * If initramfs-tools is configured to use busybox but it is not
    installed, mkinitramfs will now fail.  Previously it would quietly use
    klibc instead, sometimes producing a broken initramfs.  You may need
    to modify /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf or install busybox when
    upgrading.
  * Support for loop-aes has been removed.  If you use loop-aes encryption
    for the root or /usr filesystem, you will need to switch to cryptsetup.
    See the 'loop-AES extension' section in cryptsetup(8).

 -- Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>  Tue, 22 Dec 2015 21:56:40 +0000

linux-latest (76) unstable; urgency=medium

  * From Linux 4.8, several changes have been made in the kernel
    configuration to 'harden' the system, i.e. to mitigate security bugs.
    Some changes may cause legitimate applications to fail, and can be
    reverted by run-time configuration:
    - On most architectures, the /dev/mem device can no longer be used to
      access devices that also have a kernel driver.  This breaks dosemu
      and some old user-space graphics drivers.  To allow this, set the
      kernel parameter: iomem=relaxed
    - The kernel log is no longer readable by unprivileged users.  To
      allow this, set the sysctl: kernel.dmesg_restrict=0

 -- Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>  Sat, 29 Oct 2016 02:05:32 +0100

linux-latest (75) unstable; urgency=medium

  * From Linux 4.7, the iptables connection tracking system will no longer
    automatically load helper modules.  If your firewall configuration
    depends on connection tracking helpers, you should explicitly load the
    required modules.  For more information, see
    <https://home.regit.org/netfilter-en/secure-use-of-helpers/>.

 -- Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>  Sat, 29 Oct 2016 01:53:18 +0100

mutt (1.7.0-6) unstable; urgency=medium

  As of result of the switch to gpgme in 1.7.0-2, all pgp_* commands that
  reference a pgp/gnupg command are now ignored (unless crypt_use_gpgme is
  manually set to 'no'). If you had an --encrypt-to in those commands, to
  encrypt outgoing mail to yourself, then you will have to set
  pgp_encrypt_self=yes to maintain the same behavior.

  Starting from this version of mutt, $locale is not an option anymore, you will
  have to use $attribution_locale instead, which hich controls the translation
  of the "On {date}, {user} wrote" reply string. More details
  on https://www.mail-archive.com/mutt-dev@mutt.org/msg11544.html.

  As of this version mailto_allow will also include In-Reply-To, Cc and
  References by default, to change it set mailto_allow in your ~/.muttrc.

 -- Antonio Radici <antonio@debian.org>  Sun, 25 Sep 2016 08:48:10 +0100

mutt (1.7.0-2) unstable; urgency=medium

  Starting from this version, we enable 'crypt_use_gpgme=yes' by default.
  The GPGME delegates all crypto support to gnupg, which is designed to hold
  your crypto data securely.

  The drawback is that inline signatures are no longer supported in favour of
  PGP/MIME. If you need to sign your email with inline signatures please use
  'set crypt_use_gpgme=no' in your .muttrc.

  To solve #828751 we also had to add '--pinentry-mode loopback' to all commands
  in gpg.rc, that breaks compatibility with gpg v1, if you are still using gpg
  v1 please remove that option from the invocations of the command in
  /etc/Muttrc.d/gpg.rc

 -- Antonio Radici <antonio@debian.org>  Wed, 07 Sep 2016 21:02:51 +0100

mutt (1.6.2-1) unstable; urgency=medium

  The mutt package now incorporates the NeoMutt patchset, which includes a
  number of important security, performance and stability fixes. It also
  includes a number of UI improvements and a plethora of new features,
  including many previously shipped by Debian. Among these is the
  functionality of both the mutt-patched (sidebar, NNTP) and the mutt-kz
  (notmuch) packages, that are now both obsolete and replaced by the mutt
  package. More information about NeoMutt can be found on its website:
  http://www.neomutt.org/

  The sidebar patch has been polished up and merged upstream in what will
  eventually be Mutt 1.7.0 -- and then backported again by NeoMutt. For
  compatibility with upstream's default and since there is no mutt-patched
  package anymore, the sidebar is now off by default. Moreover, this new
  version renamed the sidebar's configuration options. To keep the old
  behavior, use this in your .muttrc:
    set mail_check_stats=yes
    set sidebar_visible=yes
    set sidebar_format="%B%*  %S%?N?(%N)?%?F?[%F]?"
    set sidebar_indent_string=" "
  and optionally:
    set sidebar_folder_indent=yes
    set sidebar_short_path=yes

  The "file_charset" option has been renamed to "attach_charset", as part of
  its inclusion upstream.

 -- Faidon Liambotis <paravoid@debian.org>  Mon, 25 Jul 2016 18:45:08 +0300

vim (2:8.0.0022-1) unstable; urgency=medium

  Vim now ships with a defaults.vim file which, when the user has no vimrc,
  enables some options that have historically been disabled by default.  This
  is described in more detail at ":help defaults.vim".

  Since defaults.vim is loaded when the user's vimrc would typically be
  loaded, it will override any settings in /etc/vim/vimrc(.local).  In order
  to disable the loading of defaults.vim, add

    let g:skip_defaults_vim = 1

  to /etc/vim/vimrc(.local).

 -- James McCoy <jamessan@debian.org>  Tue, 04 Oct 2016 20:28:02 -0400

vim (2:7.4.2330-1) unstable; urgency=medium

  The Python language bindings have been switched from python2 to python3.
  If you have plugins/addons that use Python, they may need to be updated to
  support python3.

  Similarly, python3 specific packages may need to be installed to re-enable
  plugins (e.g., python-powerline is replaced by python3-powerline) or plugin
  features.

 -- James McCoy <jamessan@debian.org>  Wed, 07 Sep 2016 22:12:11 -0400

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Setting up linux-image-4.9.0-3-amd64 (4.9.30-2) ...
I: /vmlinuz.old is now a symlink to boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64
I: /initrd.img.old is now a symlink to boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-4-amd64
I: /vmlinuz is now a symlink to boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-3-amd64
I: /initrd.img is now a symlink to boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-3-amd64
/etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs-tools:
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-3-amd64
/etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub:
Generating grub configuration file ...
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.9.27-unofficial+grsec170512-22
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.9.27-unofficial+grsec170512-22
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-3-amd64
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-3-amd64
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-4-amd64
Found Windows Vista on /dev/sdc4
done
Setting up obconf (1:2.0.4+git20150213-2) ...
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[ ok ] Starting NFS common utilities: statd idmapd.
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[ ok ] Setting kernel variables ...done.
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2017/06/25 11:32:01 Reading config from: /etc/paxrat/paxrat.conf
E: Failed to fetch http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/libi/libipc-system-simple-perl/libipc-system-simple-perl_1.25-3_all.deb  Temporary failure resolving 'packages.devuan.org'
E: Failed to fetch http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/libf/libfile-basedir-perl/libfile-basedir-perl_0.07-1_all.deb  Temporary failure resolving 'packages.devuan.org'
E: Failed to fetch http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/libw/libwebp/libwebpdemux2_0.5.2-1_amd64.deb  Temporary failure resolving 'packages.devuan.org'
E: Failed to fetch http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/p/pillow/python-pil_4.0.0-4_amd64.deb  Temporary failure resolving 'packages.devuan.org'
#

And I also installed:
# apt-get install libinput-dev libinput-tools libinput10 xserver-xorg-input-libinput xserver-xorg-input-libinput-dev libevdev-dev libevdev-tools libevdev2 xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-evdev-dbg xserver-xorg-input-evdev-dev |& tee apt-get_install__libinput__libevdev__$(date +%y%m%d_%H%M)_$(hostname).log
because I wondered what to do when I couldn't use neither keyboard nor mouse in my openbox sessions...

In short, manual Air-Gap Devuan Install can be done.

I am posting this with a clone of my Air-Gapped Devuan.

I hope there will be other users who will find this useful

Cheers!

#174 Re: Installation » sans-dbus, Questions, Tips and Tricks on its Implementation » 2017-06-27 19:09:44

miroR

I need to return the reader to the
Air-Gapped Devuan Install, Tentative
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=746#2611
topic now.

Air-Gapping Devuan manually like this is something not too trivial that I am almost proud to have accomplished...

It is IMO something good, and I wanted to share it with other Devuan users.

An I hope this sans-dbus post also clears a few aspects...

Regards!

#175 Re: Installation » Air-Gapped Devuan Install, Tentative » 2017-06-27 19:03:45

miroR

Pls. look up the dbus topic that I sent you at the end of the previous post, because it's twin aspect, but both are needed for understanding of what, and how, it happened.

This post could be a continuation after the second post of:
sans-dbus, Questions, Tips and Tricks on its Implementation
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=761#p2606
That topic and this Air-Gapped Devuan Install that you're reading, are intertwined, because of the circumstances of my installation...

But I decided to return the reader from that dbus-aspect-stressed-in-it topic to here, because... Because Air-Gapping, this manual non-expert hacking kind, works in Devuan, and I'm happy that I made it.
(All posted three days after having been written.)
Sorry for all the inconveniences, but all of this is not so very trivial...
---

Without some of these I would not have X. Which ones are indispensable, and exactly what each single one of these does, I don't know in much detail. But my guesswork might prove good enough...
The loop from the previous post reached this iteration:
apt-get install xserver-xorg
which I accepted (I forgot to say how the "read FAKE;" in my scripts does nothing, just wait for you to either hit Enter to continue with what it is in, say a loop, or to issue Ctrl-C.

And, importantly, the "ask" is a function taken from Mendel Cooper's Advanced Bash Scripting Guide. I put a line:

source ~/.bashrc.ask

in both /root's and in /home/mr's ~/.bashrc

and this is it:
$ cat ~/.bashrc.ask

function ask()
{
    echo -n "$@" '[y/n] ' ; read ans
    case "$ans" in
        y*|Y*) return 0 ;;
        *) return 1 ;;
    esac
}

But I was saying, that I accepted:
apt-get install xserver-xorg

[y/n] y
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  aspell aspell-en at-spi2-core autopoint cups-bsd cups-client cups-common
  dictionaries-common emacsen-common firefox-esr geoip-database
  geoip-database-extra giblib1 hunspell-en-us i965-va-driver iamerican
  ibritish ienglish-common ispell libaspell15 libasprintf-dev libasprintf0c2
  libauthen-sasl-perl libbdplus0 libcanberra0 libcupsfilters1 libe-book-0.1-1
  libept1.4.12 libfile-basedir-perl libfile-desktopentry-perl
  libfile-mimeinfo-perl libfont-afm-perl libgconf2-4 libgettextpo-dev
  libgettextpo0 libglib2.0-data libhsqldb1.8.0-java libhtml-form-perl
  libhtml-format-perl libhttp-daemon-perl libjasper1 libmailtools-perl
  libnet-dbus-perl libnet-smtp-ssl-perl libpam-cap libpaper-utils
  libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer libreoffice-java-common
  libreoffice-math libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb libreoffice-writer libsasl2-modules
  libtie-ixhash-perl libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0 libvte-2.90-9 libvte-2.90-common
  libwacom-bin libx11-protocol-perl libxapian22 libxml-twig-perl
  libxml-xpathengine-perl powermgmt-base qt5-gtk-platformtheme
  qttranslations5-l10n rarian-compat rename scrot synaptic tango-icon-theme
  tcpd util-linux-locales va-driver-all vdpau-va-driver
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following additional packages will be installed:
  libxfont2 xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-evdev
  xserver-xorg-input-libinput xserver-xorg-input-mouse
  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-ati
  xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-intel
  xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
  xserver-xorg-video-qxl xserver-xorg-video-r128 xserver-xorg-video-radeon
  xserver-xorg-video-savage xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion
  xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident
  xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware
Suggested packages:
  xfonts-100dpi | xfonts-75dpi xfonts-scalable gpointing-device-settings
  touchfreeze xinput firmware-linux firmware-amd-graphics
Recommended packages:
  xserver-xorg-legacy libpam-systemd
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse xserver-xorg-video-modesetting
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libxfont2 xserver-xorg-input-libinput
The following packages will be upgraded:
  xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all
  xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-mouse
  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-ati
  xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-intel
  xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
  xserver-xorg-video-qxl xserver-xorg-video-r128 xserver-xorg-video-radeon
  xserver-xorg-video-savage xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion
  xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident
  xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware
26 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 2 to remove and 56 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/8,364 kB of archives.
After this operation, 793 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

And now I'll hit Enter:

Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
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 xserver-xorg-video-all depends on xserver-xorg-video-modesetting; however:
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2017/06/25 08:55:33 Reading config from: /etc/paxrat/paxrat.conf

It appears to all be going well.

Similarly, but if it goes well, I'll cut it shorter:

apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-all
[y/n] y
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  aspell aspell-en at-spi2-core autopoint cups-bsd cups-client cups-common
  dictionaries-common emacsen-common firefox-esr geoip-database
  geoip-database-extra giblib1 hunspell-en-us i965-va-driver iamerican
  ibritish ienglish-common ispell libaspell15 libasprintf-dev libasprintf0c2
  libauthen-sasl-perl libbdplus0 libcanberra0 libcupsfilters1 libe-book-0.1-1
  libept1.4.12 libfile-basedir-perl libfile-desktopentry-perl
  libfile-mimeinfo-perl libfont-afm-perl libgconf2-4 libgettextpo-dev
  libgettextpo0 libglib2.0-data libhsqldb1.8.0-java libhtml-form-perl
  libhtml-format-perl libhttp-daemon-perl libjasper1 libmailtools-perl
  libnet-dbus-perl libnet-smtp-ssl-perl libpam-cap libpaper-utils
  libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer libreoffice-java-common
  libreoffice-math libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb libreoffice-writer libsasl2-modules
  libtie-ixhash-perl libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0 libvte-2.90-9 libvte-2.90-common
  libwacom-bin libx11-protocol-perl libxapian22 libxml-twig-perl
  libxml-xpathengine-perl powermgmt-base qt5-gtk-platformtheme
  qttranslations5-l10n rarian-compat rename scrot synaptic tango-icon-theme
  tcpd util-linux-locales va-driver-all vdpau-va-driver
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following additional packages will be installed:
  xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
Suggested packages:
  firmware-amd-graphics
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
The following packages will be upgraded:
  xserver-xorg-video-all
1 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 55 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/125 kB of archives.
After this operation, 189 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y

It did install it's packages... And the rest. Now just the last, the xterm:

apt-get install xterm
[y/n] y
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
xterm is already the newest version (327-2).
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  aspell aspell-en at-spi2-core autopoint cups-bsd cups-client cups-common
  dictionaries-common emacsen-common firefox-esr geoip-database
  geoip-database-extra giblib1 hunspell-en-us i965-va-driver iamerican
  ibritish ienglish-common ispell libaspell15 libasprintf-dev libasprintf0c2
  libauthen-sasl-perl libbdplus0 libcanberra0 libcupsfilters1 libe-book-0.1-1
  libept1.4.12 libfile-basedir-perl libfile-desktopentry-perl
  libfile-mimeinfo-perl libfont-afm-perl libgconf2-4 libgettextpo-dev
  libgettextpo0 libglib2.0-data libhsqldb1.8.0-java libhtml-form-perl
  libhtml-format-perl libhttp-daemon-perl libjasper1 libmailtools-perl
  libnet-dbus-perl libnet-smtp-ssl-perl libpam-cap libpaper-utils
  libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer libreoffice-java-common
  libreoffice-math libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb libreoffice-writer libsasl2-modules
  libtie-ixhash-perl libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0 libvte-2.90-9 libvte-2.90-common
  libwacom-bin libx11-protocol-perl libxapian22 libxml-twig-perl
  libxml-xpathengine-perl powermgmt-base qt5-gtk-platformtheme
  qttranslations5-l10n rarian-compat rename scrot synaptic tango-icon-theme
  tcpd util-linux-locales va-driver-all vdpau-va-driver
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 55 not upgraded.

#

(see how the prompt returned there? it was all in a long for loop until now, the xterm was the last entry)

Because what follows next is some removing of packages that, as best I understand, very very likely inextricably (at this time) depend on dbus.

This is how it went in the clone, one day and a half ago:

...
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    1814 2017-06-23 23:29 apt-get_install_xserver-xorg-video-fbdev_170623_2329_gdOv
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    1753 2017-06-23 23:29 apt-get_install_xserver-xorg-video-modesetting_170623_2329_gdOv
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    1820 2017-06-23 23:29 apt-get_install_xserver-xorg-video-neomagic_170623_2329_gdOv
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    1816 2017-06-23 23:29 apt-get_install_xserver-xorg-video-nouveau_170623_2329_gdOv
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    1816 2017-06-23 23:29 apt-get_install_xserver-xorg-video-radeon_170623_2329_gdOv
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    1812 2017-06-23 23:29 apt-get_install_xserver-xorg-video-vesa_170623_2329_gdOv
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    1748 2017-06-23 23:29 apt-get_install_xterm_170623_2329_gdOv
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr     272 2017-06-23 23:29 apt-get_update_170623_2329_gdOv.log
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    5305 2017-06-23 23:32 apt-get_upgrade_170623_2329_gdOv.log
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    4193 2017-06-23 23:32 apt-get_dist-upgrade_170623_2332_gdOv.log
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    2908 2017-06-23 23:35 apt-get_remove_evince-common_evince-gtk_pinentry-gtk2_170623_2335_gdOv.log
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr     491 2017-06-23 23:36 apt-get_update_170623_2336_gdOv.log
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    3946 2017-06-23 23:37 apt-get_dist-upgrade_170623_2336_gdOv.log
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    1721 2017-06-23 23:41 apt-get_remove_dbus_170623_2341_gdOv.log
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    3939 2017-06-23 23:41 apt-get_dist-upgrade_170623_2341_gdOv.log
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    2520 2017-06-23 23:46 apt-get_remove_at-spi2-core_170623_2345_gdOv
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    2552 2017-06-23 23:46 apt-get_remove_autopoint_170623_2346_gdOv
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    1702 2017-06-23 23:46 apt-get_remove_consolekit_170623_2346_gdOv
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    3329 2017-06-23 23:46 apt-get_remove_cpp-4.9_170623_2346_gdOv
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    4325 2017-06-23 23:47 apt-get_remove_cpp-4.9_170623_2347_gdOv
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    2561 2017-06-23 23:48 apt-get_remove_cups-bsd_170623_2347_gdOv
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    2555 2017-06-23 23:48 apt-get_remove_cups-client_170623_2348_gdOv
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    2497 2017-06-23 23:48 apt-get_remove_cups-common_170623_2348_gdOv
...

See the timing there. Now. first, more rsync-updating my Air-Gapped master, and then another loop, but a loop for removing those dbus-dependent packages.

However I made another mistake. I lost my real extended_states file.

Because I issued:
# rsync -av --delete var_lib_apt_170623_2336_gdOv/lib/apt/  /var/lib/apt/

sending incremental file list
./
daily_lock
extended_states

sent 41,092 bytes  received 62 bytes  82,308.00 bytes/sec
total size is 147,305,546  speedup is 3,579.37

And I did make a few saner choices than in the clone... Will Apt now not know about those and think it is all as it was in the clone? .... Aaarghhh... I hope this mistake is not so serious.

Anyway:
# rsync -av --delete var_cache_170623_2347_gdOv/cache/  /var/cache/

sending incremental file list
apt/
apt/pkgcache.bin
apt/srcpkgcache.bin
apt/archives/
apt/archives/cpp-6_6.3.0-18_amd64.deb
apt/archives/cpp_4%3a6.3.0-4_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libisl15_0.18-1_amd64.deb
apt/archives/partial/
ldconfig/
ldconfig/aux-cache
man/
man/index.db
man/cs/
man/da/
man/de/
man/de/index.db
man/es/
man/es/index.db
man/fi/
man/fr/
man/fr/index.db
man/hu/
man/id/
man/it/
man/it/index.db
man/ja/
man/ko/
man/nl/
man/nl/index.db
man/pl/
man/pl/index.db
man/pt/
man/pt_BR/
man/ru/
man/ru/index.db
man/sl/
man/sv/
man/tr/
man/zh_CN/
man/zh_TW/

sent 59,925,629 bytes  received 498 bytes  17,121,750.57 bytes/sec
total size is 295,014,420  speedup is 4.92

However, I should not start removing yet, because before that, which happened:

...
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr mr  1252 2017-06-24 00:02 keep-or-remove_list_01.ls-1_REMOVE.ls-1
...

I had done some updating in the clone, which of course I do with rsync'ing here in the master, not with apt-get update'ing.

Here in this Air-Gapped. I do with rsync'ing the equivalent of:

-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr     272 2017-06-23 23:29 apt-get_update_170623_2329_gdOv.log

and such.

And after that I can run "apt-get upgrade" in Air-Gapped as if I was in the clone:

-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    5305 2017-06-23 23:32 apt-get_upgrade_170623_2329_gdOv.log

Can I now, since:

-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    4193 2017-06-23 23:32 apt-get_dist-upgrade_170623_2332_gdOv.log

that was what I ran in the clone at this stage, try and run:

apt-get upgrade |& tee /Cmn/LOG_/apt-get_upgrade_$(date +%y%m%d_%H%M)_$(hostname)

?

And I ran it:
# apt-get upgrade |& tee /Cmn/LOG_/apt-get_upgrade_$(date +%y%m%d_%H%M)_$(hostname)

Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
Calculating upgrade...
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  aspell aspell-en at-spi2-core autopoint cups-bsd cups-client cups-common
  dictionaries-common emacsen-common firefox-esr geoip-database
  geoip-database-extra giblib1 hunspell-en-us i965-va-driver iamerican
  ibritish ienglish-common ispell libaacs0 libabw-0.1-1 libaspell15
  libasprintf-dev libasprintf0c2 libauthen-sasl-perl libbdplus0 libcanberra0
  libcupsfilters1 libe-book-0.1-1 libept1.4.12 libfile-basedir-perl
  libfile-desktopentry-perl libfile-mimeinfo-perl libfont-afm-perl libgconf2-4
  libgettextpo-dev libgettextpo0 libglib2.0-data libhsqldb1.8.0-java
  libhtml-form-perl libhtml-format-perl libhttp-daemon-perl libjasper1
  libmailtools-perl libnet-dbus-perl libnet-smtp-ssl-perl libpam-cap
  libpaper-utils libpoppler46 libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer
  libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-math libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb
  libreoffice-writer libsasl2-modules libtie-ixhash-perl libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0
  libvisual-0.4-plugins libvte-2.90-9 libvte-2.90-common libwacom-bin
  libx11-protocol-perl libxapian22 libxml-twig-perl libxml-xpathengine-perl
  powermgmt-base qt5-gtk-platformtheme qttranslations5-l10n rarian-compat
  rename scrot synaptic tango-icon-theme tcpd util-linux-locales va-driver-all
  vdpau-va-driver
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages have been kept back:
  apt-listchanges bind9-host cpp dnsutils evince-common evince-gtk file
  firefox-esr gnupg gnupg-agent gnupg2 initramfs-tools isc-dhcp-client
  isc-dhcp-common libasprintf-dev libatomic1 libclamav7 libcloog-isl4 libcurl3
  libcurl3-gnutls libevdocument3-4 libevview3-3 libfile-basedir-perl libgcc1
  libgomp1 libhsqldb1.8.0-java libldap-2.4-2 libmagic1 libquadmath0 libstdc++6
  linux-image-amd64 lp-solve mutt nfs-common obconf openbox pinentry-gtk2
  procps python-debianbts python-pil reportbug rsyslog synaptic tzdata vim
  vim-common vim-runtime vim-tiny wget
The following packages will be upgraded:
  adwaita-icon-theme gnome-icon-theme libpoppler-glib8 libxatracker2
  mate-icon-theme xpdf
6 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 49 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/35.2 MB of archives.
After this operation, 35.0 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

And, before I tell you that I think I can try that, I need to tell you that it diverges from what it looked like in the clone, where it was still pulling in dbus, as evince, cups, firefox-esr, and other were still in there... Hmmmhhh...

Let's try accepting that with Enter:

Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
Reading changelogs...
(Reading database ... 96673 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../0-adwaita-icon-theme_3.22.0-1_all.deb ...
Unpacking adwaita-icon-theme (3.22.0-1) over (3.14.0-2) ...
Preparing to unpack .../1-gnome-icon-theme_3.12.0-2_all.deb ...
Unpacking gnome-icon-theme (3.12.0-2) over (3.12.0-1) ...
Preparing to unpack .../2-libpoppler-glib8_0.48.0-2_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libpoppler-glib8:amd64 (0.48.0-2) over (0.26.5-2+deb8u1) ...
Preparing to unpack .../3-libxatracker2_13.0.6-1+b2_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libxatracker2:amd64 (13.0.6-1+b2) over (10.3.2-1+deb8u1) ...
Preparing to unpack .../4-mate-icon-theme_1.16.2-1_all.deb ...
Unpacking mate-icon-theme (1.16.2-1) over (1.8.0-1) ...
Preparing to unpack .../5-xpdf_3.04-4_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking xpdf (3.04-4) over (3.03-17+b1) ...
Setting up libpoppler-glib8:amd64 (0.48.0-2) ...
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.60) ...
Processing triggers for menu (2.1.47+b1) ...
Setting up gnome-icon-theme (3.12.0-2) ...
Setting up libxatracker2:amd64 (13.0.6-1+b2) ...
Setting up xpdf (3.04-4) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.24-12) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.6.1-2) ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme (0.15-1) ...
Setting up mate-icon-theme (1.16.2-1) ...
Setting up adwaita-icon-theme (3.22.0-1) ...
update-alternatives: using /usr/share/icons/Adwaita/cursor.theme to provide /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme (x-cursor-theme) in auto mode
2017/06/25 09:29:03 Reading config from: /etc/paxrat/paxrat.conf

But I next in the clone removed:

-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    2908 2017-06-23 23:35 apt-get_remove_evince-common_evince-gtk_pinentry-gtk2_170623_2335_gdOv.log

Can I do that in Air-Gapped with this fake rsync'd updates?
# apt-get remove evince-common evince-gtk pinentry-gtk2 |& tee LOG_/apt-get_remove_evince-common_evince-gtk_pinentry-gtk2_$(date +%y%m%d_%H%M)_$(hostname).log

Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  aspell aspell-en at-spi2-core autopoint cups-bsd cups-client cups-common
  dictionaries-common emacsen-common firefox-esr geoip-database
  geoip-database-extra giblib1 gnome-icon-theme-symbolic hunspell-en-us
  i965-va-driver iamerican ibritish ienglish-common ispell libaacs0
  libabw-0.1-1 libarchive13 libaspell15 libasprintf-dev libasprintf0c2
  libauthen-sasl-perl libbdplus0 libcanberra0 libcupsfilters1
  libdjvulibre-text libdjvulibre21 libe-book-0.1-1 libept1.4.12
  libevdocument3-4 libevview3-3 libfile-basedir-perl libfile-desktopentry-perl
  libfile-mimeinfo-perl libfont-afm-perl libgconf2-4 libgettextpo-dev
  libgettextpo0 libglib2.0-data libgxps2 libhsqldb1.8.0-java libhtml-form-perl
  libhtml-format-perl libhttp-daemon-perl libjasper1 libkpathsea6
  libmailtools-perl libnet-dbus-perl libnet-smtp-ssl-perl libpam-cap
  libpaper-utils libpoppler-glib8 libpoppler46
  libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer libreoffice-java-common
  libreoffice-math libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb libreoffice-writer libsasl2-modules
  libspectre1 libtie-ixhash-perl libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0 libvisual-0.4-plugins
  libvte-2.90-9 libvte-2.90-common libwacom-bin libx11-protocol-perl
  libxapian22 libxml-twig-perl libxml-xpathengine-perl powermgmt-base
  qt5-gtk-platformtheme qttranslations5-l10n rarian-compat rename scrot
  synaptic tango-icon-theme tcpd util-linux-locales va-driver-all
  vdpau-va-driver
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  evince-common evince-gtk pinentry-gtk2
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 3 to remove and 46 not upgraded.
After this operation, 12.1 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
(Reading database ... 100143 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing evince-gtk (3.14.1-2+deb8u1) ...
Removing evince-common (3.14.1-2+deb8u1) ...
Removing pinentry-gtk2 (0.8.3-2) ...
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.60) ...
Processing triggers for libglib2.0-0:amd64 (2.50.3-2) ...
Processing triggers for menu (2.1.47+b1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.6.1-2) ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme (0.15-1) ...
2017/06/25 09:41:27 Reading config from: /etc/paxrat/paxrat.conf

Appears to have gone fine.

And, what if I tried "apt-get dist-upgrade"? In the clone,

-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    3946 2017-06-23 23:37 apt-get_dist-upgrade_170623_2336_gdOv.log

without bringing all the details (there are explanations previously), I had to abort it:

...
The following packages will be upgraded:
  adwaita-icon-theme apt-listchanges bind9-host cpp default-jre
...
  xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-savage
  xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sisusb
  xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-vesa
  xserver-xorg-video-vmware
93 upgraded, 99 newly installed, 11 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 242 MB/249 MB of archives.
After this operation, 561 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Abort.

Let's see:
# apt-get dist-upgrade |& tee LOG_/apt-get_dist-upgrade_$(date +%y%m%d_%H%M)_$(hostname).log

Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
Calculating upgrade...
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  aspell aspell-en at-spi2-core autopoint consolekit cpp-4.9 cups-bsd
  cups-client cups-common dbus dictionaries-common emacsen-common firefox-esr
  geoip-database geoip-database-extra giblib1 gnome-icon-theme-symbolic
  hunspell-en-us i965-va-driver iamerican ibritish ienglish-common ispell
  libaacs0 libabw-0.1-1 libapparmor1 libarchive13 libaspell15 libasprintf-dev
  libasprintf0v5 libauthen-sasl-perl libbdplus0 libbind9-90 libcanberra0
  libck-connector0 libcloog-isl4 libcolamd2.8.0 libcupsfilters1
  libdjvulibre-text libdjvulibre21 libdns100 libe-book-0.1-1 libept1.4.12
  libept1.5.0 libevdocument3-4 libevview3-3 libfile-basedir-perl
  libfile-desktopentry-perl libfile-mimeinfo-perl libfont-afm-perl libgconf2-4
  libgettextpo-dev libgettextpo0 libgif4 libglade2-0 libglib2.0-data libgxps2
  libhsqldb1.8.0-java libhtml-form-perl libhtml-format-perl
  libhttp-daemon-perl libipc-system-simple-perl libisc95 libisccc90
  libisccfg90 libisl10 libjasper1 libjsoncpp1 libkpathsea6 libllvm3.5
  liblwres90 libmailtools-perl libnet-dbus-perl libnet-smtp-ssl-perl
  libpam-cap libpaper-utils libpcre2-8-0 libpng12-0 libpolkit-agent-1-0
  libpolkit-backend-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0 libpoppler-glib8 libpoppler46
  libpth20 libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer libreoffice-java-common
  libreoffice-math libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb libreoffice-writer libsasl2-modules
  libsctp1 libservlet3.1-java libspectre1 libtie-ixhash-perl libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0
  libvisual-0.4-plugins libvte-2.90-9 libvte-2.90-common libvte-2.91-0
  libvte-2.91-common libwacom-bin libx11-protocol-perl libxapian22
  libxml-twig-perl libxml-xpathengine-perl policykit-1 powermgmt-base
  python-defusedxml python-soappy python-wstools qt5-gtk-platformtheme
  qttranslations5-l10n rarian-compat rename scrot synaptic tango-icon-theme
  tcpd util-linux-locales va-driver-all vdpau-va-driver
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libasprintf0c2 libobrender29 libobt2 openjdk-7-jre openjdk-7-jre-headless
  tzdata-java
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  consolekit cpp-6 dbus dirmngr gcc-7-base initramfs-tools-core keyutils
  libapparmor1 libasprintf0v5 libbind9-140 libck-connector0 libcolamd2
  libdns-export162 libdns162 libept1.5.0 libgmime-2.6-0 libidn2-0
  libipc-system-simple-perl libisc-export160 libisc160 libisccc140
  libisccfg140 libisl15 libjson-c3 libjsoncpp1 libldap-common libllvm3.8
  liblwres141 libmagic-mgc libnotmuch4 libnpth0 libobrender32v5 libobt2v5
  libpcre2-8-0 libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-backend-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0
  libprocps4 libpsl5 libservlet3.1-java libsuitesparseconfig4 libtfm1
  libvte-2.91-0 libvte-2.91-common libwebpdemux2 libxapian30
  linux-image-4.9.0-3-amd64 policykit-1 python-httplib2 python-pycurl
  python-pysimplesoap python3-apt python3-chardet python3-debian
  python3-debianbts python3-httplib2 python3-pkg-resources python3-pycurl
  python3-pysimplesoap python3-reportbug python3-requests python3-six
  python3-urllib3 xxd
The following packages will be upgraded:
  apt-listchanges bind9-host cpp dnsutils file firefox-esr gnupg gnupg-agent
  gnupg2 initramfs-tools isc-dhcp-client isc-dhcp-common libasprintf-dev
  libatomic1 libclamav7 libcloog-isl4 libcurl3 libcurl3-gnutls
  libevdocument3-4 libevview3-3 libfile-basedir-perl libgcc1 libgomp1
  libhsqldb1.8.0-java libldap-2.4-2 libmagic1 libquadmath0 libstdc++6
  linux-image-amd64 lp-solve mutt nfs-common obconf openbox procps
  python-debianbts python-pil reportbug synaptic tzdata vim vim-common
  vim-runtime vim-tiny wget
45 upgraded, 64 newly installed, 6 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 127 MB/135 MB of archives.
After this operation, 234 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
Abort.

And I had to abort it here too. See the dbus, the consolekit, the firefox-esr...

But not so much more... Remember it was much worse previously!

So, the removal list is:
# cat LOG_add_/keep-or-remove_list_01.ls-1_REMOVE.ls-1 

consolekit dbus i965-va-driver ienglish-common ispell libaacs0 libabw-0.1-1 libarchive13 libaspell15 libasprintf-dev libasprintf0v5 libauthen-sasl-perl libbdplus0 libbind9-90 libcanberra0 libck-connector0 libcloog-isl4 libcolamd2.8.0 libcupsfilters1 libdjvulibre-text libdjvulibre21 libdns100 libe-book-0.1-1 libept1.4.12 libept1.5.0 libevdocument3-4 libevview3-3 libfile-basedir-perl libfile-desktopentry-perl libfile-mimeinfo-perl libfont-afm-perl libgconf2-4 libgettextpo-dev libgettextpo0 libgif4 libglade2
-0 libglib2.0-data libgxps2 libhsqldb1.8.0-java libhtml-form-perl libhtml-format-perl libhttp-daemon-perl libipc-system-simple-perl libisc95 libisccc90 libisccfg90 libisl10 liblwres90 libmailtools-perl libnet-dbus-perl libnet-smtp-ssl-perl libpoppler-glib8 libpoppler46 libpth20 libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-math libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb libreoffice-writer libsctp1 libservlet3.1-java libspectre1 libtie-ixhash-perl libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0 libvisual-0.4-plugins libvte-2.90-9 libvte-2.90-common libvte-2.91-0 libvte-2.91-common libwacom-bin libx11-protocol-perl libxapian22 libxml-twig-perl libxml-xpathengine-perl powermgmt-base python-defusedxml python-soappy python-wstools synaptic tango-icon-theme

and it is made out of the aborted dist-upgrade above, just picked up some, and left out some other.
And let me see what the for loop I ran with it in the histories that I saved from the two terminals that I ran those command in in the clone...

Hmmhh... I actually ran that one later.

I ran another loop first, this one:

# for i in $(cat keep-or-remove_list.ls-1_00-REMOVE); do echo apt-get remove $i;  ask; if [ "$?" == 0 ] ; then apt-get remove $i |& tee BAK_/apt-get_remove_${i}_$(date +%y%m%d_%H%M)_$(hostname) ; read FAKE ; fi ; done ;

and it is based on this file:
# cat ../LOG_add_/keep-or-remove_list.ls-1_00-REMOVE

at-spi2-core autopoint consolekit cpp-4.9 cups-bsd cups-client cups-common dbus dictionaries-common emacsen-common firefox-esr geoip-database geoip-database-extra giblib1 gnome-icon-theme-symbolic hunspell-en-us i965-va-driver iamerican ibritish ienglish-common ispell

And that was at the time that the timestamps show:

...
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    2520 2017-06-23 23:46 apt-get_remove_at-spi2-core_170623_2345_gdOv
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    2552 2017-06-23 23:46 apt-get_remove_autopoint_170623_2346_gdOv
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    1702 2017-06-23 23:46 apt-get_remove_consolekit_170623_2346_gdOv
-rw-r--r-- 1 mr   mr    3329 2017-06-23 23:46 apt-get_remove_cpp-4.9_170623_2346_gdOv
...

So, do I need to update my /var/cache/ and my /var/lib/apt/ ?

# rsync -nav --delete var_cache_170623_2347_gdOv/cache/  /var/cache/
sending incremental file list
apt/
apt/pkgcache.bin
apt/srcpkgcache.bin
ldconfig/
ldconfig/aux-cache
man/
man/index.db
man/cs/
man/da/
man/de/
man/de/index.db
man/es/
man/es/index.db
man/fi/
man/fr/
man/fr/index.db
man/hu/
man/id/
man/it/
man/it/index.db
man/ja/
man/ko/
man/nl/
man/nl/index.db
man/pl/
man/pl/index.db
man/pt/
man/pt_BR/
man/ru/
man/ru/index.db
man/sl/
man/sv/
man/tr/
man/zh_CN/
man/zh_TW/

sent 13,294 bytes  received 217 bytes  9,007.33 bytes/sec
total size is 295,014,420  speedup is 21,835.13 (DRY RUN)
# rsync -nav --delete var_lib_apt_170623_2347_gdOv/lib/  /var/lib/apt/
cdroms.list      cdroms.list~     daily_lock       extended_states  listchanges.db   lists/           mirrors/         periodic/        
root@gdOv:/home/mr/var_cache_var_lib_apt_17062.d# rsync -nav --delete var_lib_apt_170623_2347_gdOv/lib/apt/  /var/lib/apt/
sending incremental file list
./
extended_states
lists/partial/

sent 800 bytes  received 30 bytes  1,660.00 bytes/sec
total size is 147,305,482  speedup is 177,476.48 (DRY RUN)
#

But while I don't know, I think I had better leave that as is.

Let's run that loop:
# for i in $(cat LOG_add_/keep-or-remove_list.ls-1_00-REMOVE); do echo apt-get remove $i;  ask; if [ "$?" == 0 ] ; then apt-get remove $i |& tee LOG_/apt-get_remove_${i}_$(date +%y%m%d_%H%M)_$(hostname) ; read FAKE ; fi ; done ;

...
apt-get remove cpp-4.9
[y/n] y
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  aspell aspell-en cups-bsd cups-client cups-common dictionaries-common
  emacsen-common firefox-esr geoip-database geoip-database-extra giblib1
  gnome-icon-theme-symbolic hunspell-en-us i965-va-driver iamerican ibritish
  ienglish-common ispell libaacs0 libabw-0.1-1 libarchive13 libaspell15
  libasprintf-dev libasprintf0c2 libauthen-sasl-perl libbdplus0 libcanberra0
  libcloog-isl4 libcupsfilters1 libdjvulibre-text libdjvulibre21
  libe-book-0.1-1 libept1.4.12 libevdocument3-4 libevview3-3
  libfile-basedir-perl libfile-desktopentry-perl libfile-mimeinfo-perl
  libfont-afm-perl libgconf2-4 libgettextpo-dev libgettextpo0 libglib2.0-data
  libgxps2 libhsqldb1.8.0-java libhtml-form-perl libhtml-format-perl
  libhttp-daemon-perl libisl10 libjasper1 libkpathsea6 libmailtools-perl
  libnet-dbus-perl libnet-smtp-ssl-perl libpam-cap libpaper-utils
  libpoppler-glib8 libpoppler46 libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer
  libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-math libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb
  libreoffice-writer libsasl2-modules libspectre1 libtie-ixhash-perl
  libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0 libvisual-0.4-plugins libvte-2.90-9 libvte-2.90-common
  libwacom-bin libx11-protocol-perl libxapian22 libxml-twig-perl
  libxml-xpathengine-perl powermgmt-base qt5-gtk-platformtheme
  qttranslations5-l10n rarian-compat rename scrot synaptic tango-icon-theme
  tcpd util-linux-locales va-driver-all vdpau-va-driver
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following additional packages will be installed:
  cpp cpp-6 libisl15
Suggested packages:
  cpp-doc gcc-6-locales
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  cpp-4.9
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  cpp-6 libisl15
The following packages will be upgraded:
  cpp
1 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 1 to remove and 45 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/7,162 kB of archives.
After this operation, 8,281 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
...

I have those, rsync-updated those, shown further above. They did install of course.

And the rest of the removals went fine (but I didn't remove geoip-database. Did remove geoip-database-extra.

I believe this one will be necessary soon;
# rsync -av --delete var_cache_170624_0011_gdOv/cache/  /var/cache/

sending incremental file list
./
apt/
apt/pkgcache.bin
apt/srcpkgcache.bin
apt/archives/
apt/archives/libcurl3-gnutls_7.52.1-5_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libidn2-0_0.16-1_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libpsl5_0.17.0-4_amd64.deb
apt/archives/python-debianbts_2.6.1_all.deb
apt/archives/python-httplib2_0.9.2+dfsg-1_all.deb
apt/archives/python-pycurl_7.43.0-2_amd64.deb
apt/archives/python-pysimplesoap_1.16-2_all.deb
apt/archives/partial/
debconf/
debconf/config.dat
debconf/config.dat-old
debconf/templates.dat
debconf/templates.dat-old
ldconfig/
ldconfig/aux-cache
man/
man/index.db
man/cs/
...
man/zh_CN/
man/zh_TW/

sent 61,188,311 bytes  received 663 bytes  17,482,564.00 bytes/sec
total size is 295,549,917  speedup is 4.83

More removing now.
# for i in $(cat LOG_add_/keep-or-remove_list_01.ls-1_REMOVE.ls-1); do echo apt-get remove $i;  ask; if [ "$?" == 0 ] ; then apt-get remove $i |& tee LOG_/apt-get_remove_${i}_$(date +%y%m%d_%H%M)_$(hostname) ; read FAKE ; fi ; done ;

But I quit, to first:

# rsync -av --delete  var_cache_170624_0023_gdOv/cache/ /var/cache/

sending incremental file list
apt/
apt/pkgcache.bin
apt/srcpkgcache.bin
apt/archives/
apt/archives/apt-listchanges_3.10_all.deb
apt/archives/bind9-host_1%3a9.10.3.dfsg.P4-12.3_amd64.deb
apt/archives/dirmngr_2.1.18-8_amd64.deb
apt/archives/dnsutils_1%3a9.10.3.dfsg.P4-12.3_amd64.deb
apt/archives/file_1%3a5.30-1_amd64.deb
apt/archives/gcc-7-base_7.1.0-7_amd64.deb
apt/archives/gnupg-agent_2.1.18-8_amd64.deb
apt/archives/gnupg2_2.1.18-8_all.deb
apt/archives/gnupg_2.1.18-8_amd64.deb
apt/archives/initramfs-tools-core_0.130_all.deb
apt/archives/initramfs-tools_0.130_all.deb
apt/archives/isc-dhcp-client_4.3.5-3_amd64.deb
apt/archives/isc-dhcp-common_4.3.5-3_amd64.deb
apt/archives/keyutils_1.5.9-9_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libasprintf-dev_0.19.8.1-2_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libasprintf0v5_0.19.8.1-2_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libatomic1_7.1.0-7_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libbind9-140_1%3a9.10.3.dfsg.P4-12.3_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libclamav7_0.99.2+dfsg-6+b1_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libcolamd2_1%3a4.5.4-1_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libcurl3_7.52.1-5_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libdns-export162_1%3a9.10.3.dfsg.P4-12.3_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libdns162_1%3a9.10.3.dfsg.P4-12.3_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libgcc1_1%3a7.1.0-7_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libgmime-2.6-0_2.6.22+dfsg2-1_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libgomp1_7.1.0-7_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libhsqldb1.8.0-java_1.8.0.10+dfsg-7_all.deb
apt/archives/libisc-export160_1%3a9.10.3.dfsg.P4-12.3_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libisc160_1%3a9.10.3.dfsg.P4-12.3_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libisccc140_1%3a9.10.3.dfsg.P4-12.3_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libisccfg140_1%3a9.10.3.dfsg.P4-12.3_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libjson-c3_0.12.1-1.1_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libldap-2.4-2_2.4.44+dfsg-5_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libldap-common_2.4.44+dfsg-5_all.deb
apt/archives/libllvm3.8_1%3a3.8.1-24_amd64.deb
apt/archives/liblwres141_1%3a9.10.3.dfsg.P4-12.3_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libmagic-mgc_1%3a5.30-1_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libmagic1_1%3a5.30-1_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libnotmuch4_0.23.7-3_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libnpth0_1.3-1_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libobrender32v5_3.6.1-4_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libobt2v5_3.6.1-4_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libprocps4_2%3a3.3.10-4+devuan1.0_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libquadmath0_7.1.0-7_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libservlet3.1-java_8.5.14-2_all.deb
apt/archives/libstdc++6_7.1.0-7_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libsuitesparseconfig4_1%3a4.5.4-1_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libtfm1_0.13-4_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libxapian30_1.4.3-2_amd64.deb
apt/archives/linux-image-4.9.0-3-amd64_4.9.30-2_amd64.deb
apt/archives/linux-image-amd64_4.9+80_amd64.deb
apt/archives/lp-solve_5.5.0.15-4+b1_amd64.deb
apt/archives/mutt_1.8.0-1_amd64.deb
apt/archives/nfs-common_1%3a1.3.4-2.1_amd64.deb
apt/archives/obconf_1%3a2.0.4+git20150213-2_amd64.deb
apt/archives/openbox_3.6.1-4_amd64.deb
apt/archives/procps_2%3a3.3.10-4+devuan1.0_amd64.deb
apt/archives/python3-apt_1.4.0~beta3_amd64.deb
apt/archives/python3-chardet_2.3.0-2_all.deb
apt/archives/python3-debian_0.1.30_all.deb
apt/archives/python3-debianbts_2.6.1_all.deb
apt/archives/python3-httplib2_0.9.2+dfsg-1_all.deb
apt/archives/python3-pkg-resources_33.1.1-1_all.deb
apt/archives/python3-pycurl_7.43.0-2_amd64.deb
apt/archives/python3-pysimplesoap_1.16-2_all.deb
apt/archives/python3-reportbug_7.1.6+devuan2.1_all.deb
apt/archives/python3-requests_2.12.4-1_all.deb
apt/archives/python3-six_1.10.0-4_all.deb
apt/archives/python3-urllib3_1.19.1-1_all.deb
apt/archives/reportbug_7.1.6+devuan2.1_all.deb
apt/archives/tzdata_2017b-1_all.deb
apt/archives/vim-common_2%3a8.0.0197-4_all.deb
apt/archives/vim-runtime_2%3a8.0.0197-4_all.deb
apt/archives/vim-tiny_2%3a8.0.0197-4_amd64.deb
apt/archives/vim_2%3a8.0.0197-4_amd64.deb
apt/archives/wget_1.19.1-3_amd64.deb
apt/archives/xxd_2%3a8.0.0197-4_amd64.deb
apt/archives/partial/
debconf/
debconf/config.dat
debconf/config.dat-old
debconf/templates.dat
debconf/templates.dat-old
ldconfig/
ldconfig/aux-cache
man/
man/index.db
man/cs/
man/da/
...
man/tr/index.db
man/zh_CN/
man/zh_TW/

sent 134,993,400 bytes  received 2,032 bytes  20,768,528.00 bytes/sec
total size is 369,846,444  speedup is 2.74
#

and will now restart the loop.

E.g., this should now work (didn't just a few minutes ago):

apt-get remove libdns100
[y/n] y
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  geoip-database giblib1 libasprintf0c2 libbdplus0 libcanberra0
  libdjvulibre-text libdjvulibre21 libe-book-0.1-1 libept1.4.12
  libfile-basedir-perl libfile-desktopentry-perl libfile-mimeinfo-perl
  libfont-afm-perl libgconf2-4 libgettextpo-dev libgettextpo0 libglib2.0-data
  libhsqldb1.8.0-java libhtml-form-perl libhtml-format-perl
  libhttp-daemon-perl libisc95 libisccc90 libisl10 libjasper1 libkpathsea6
  liblwres90 libmailtools-perl libnet-dbus-perl libnet-smtp-ssl-perl
  libpam-cap libpaper-utils libpoppler-glib8 libpoppler46
  libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer libreoffice-java-common
  libreoffice-math libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb libsasl2-modules libspectre1
  libtie-ixhash-perl libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0 libvisual-0.4-plugins libvte-2.90-9
  libvte-2.90-common libwacom-bin libx11-protocol-perl libxapian22
  libxml-twig-perl libxml-xpathengine-perl powermgmt-base
  qt5-gtk-platformtheme qttranslations5-l10n rarian-compat rename scrot
  synaptic tango-icon-theme tcpd util-linux-locales vdpau-va-driver
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following additional packages will be installed:
  bind9-host dnsutils libbind9-140 libdns162 libisc160 libisccc140
  libisccfg140 liblwres141
Suggested packages:
  rblcheck
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libbind9-90 libdns100 libisccfg90
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libbind9-140 libdns162 libisc160 libisccc140 libisccfg140 liblwres141
The following packages will be upgraded:
  bind9-host dnsutils
2 upgraded, 6 newly installed, 3 to remove and 38 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/2,826 kB of archives.
After this operation, 4,753 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

And it did install.

But I hit a snag now:
apt-get remove libept1.4.12

[y/n] y
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  consolekit dbus geoip-database giblib1 libapparmor1 libasprintf0c2
  libbdplus0 libcanberra0 libck-connector0 libdjvulibre-text libdjvulibre21
  libept1.5.0 libfile-basedir-perl libfile-desktopentry-perl
  libfile-mimeinfo-perl libfont-afm-perl libgconf2-4 libgettextpo-dev
  libgettextpo0 libglib2.0-data libhsqldb1.8.0-java libhtml-form-perl
  libhtml-format-perl libhttp-daemon-perl libisc95 libisccc90 libisl10
  libjasper1 libkpathsea6 liblwres90 libmailtools-perl libnet-dbus-perl
  libnet-smtp-ssl-perl libpam-cap libpaper-utils libpcre2-8-0
  libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-backend-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0
  libpoppler-glib8 libpoppler46 libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer
  libreoffice-java-common libreoffice-math libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb
  libsasl2-modules libspectre1 libtie-ixhash-perl libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0
  libvisual-0.4-plugins libvte-2.90-9 libvte-2.90-common libvte-2.91-0
  libvte-2.91-common libwacom-bin libx11-protocol-perl libxapian22 libxapian30
  libxml-twig-perl libxml-xpathengine-perl policykit-1 powermgmt-base
  qt5-gtk-platformtheme qttranslations5-l10n rarian-compat rename scrot
  synaptic tango-icon-theme tcpd util-linux-locales vdpau-va-driver
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following additional packages will be installed:
  consolekit dbus libapparmor1 libck-connector0 libept1.5.0 libpcre2-8-0
  libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-backend-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0
  libvte-2.91-0 libvte-2.91-common libxapian30 policykit-1 synaptic
Suggested packages:
  default-dbus-session-bus | dbus-session-bus xapian-tools dwww deborphan
  apt-xapian-index software-properties-gtk
Recommended packages:
  libpam-ck-connector
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libept1.4.12
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  consolekit dbus libapparmor1 libck-connector0 libept1.5.0 libpcre2-8-0
  libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-backend-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0
  libvte-2.91-0 libvte-2.91-common libxapian30 policykit-1
The following packages will be upgraded:
  synaptic
1 upgraded, 13 newly installed, 1 to remove and 37 not upgraded.
Need to get 4,136 kB/5,203 kB of archives.
After this operation, 6,856 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

Of course:

Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
Abort.

Maybe because liberoffice, which does not have to be dbus-dependent (just like firefox until recently didn't have to be, and certainly firefox-esr does not have to be, but I fear it is
(
however, I compile palemoon without dbus, hah! hah!:
Palemoon installation from source
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=616
)
), but is probably installed with dbus dependency, was still installed?

Anyway, those have mostly been removed.

This isn't anymore so bad:
# apt-get install -f |& tee LOG_/apt-get_install-f_${i}_$(date +%y%m%d_%H%M)_$(hostname).log

Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  geoip-database giblib1 libasprintf0c2 libbdplus0 libcanberra0
  libdjvulibre-text libdjvulibre21 libept1.4.12 libfile-basedir-perl
  libgettextpo-dev libgettextpo0 libglib2.0-data libhsqldb1.8.0-java
  libhtml-form-perl libhttp-daemon-perl libisc95 libisccc90 libisl10
  libjasper1 libkpathsea6 liblwres90 libpam-cap libpaper-utils
  libpoppler-glib8 libpoppler46 libsasl2-modules libspectre1
  libtie-ixhash-perl libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0 libvisual-0.4-plugins libvte-2.90-9
  libvte-2.90-common libwacom-bin libx11-protocol-perl libxapian22
  libxml-twig-perl libxml-xpathengine-perl python-defusedxml
  qt5-gtk-platformtheme qttranslations5-l10n rarian-compat rename scrot tcpd
  util-linux-locales vdpau-va-driver
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 35 not upgraded.

And the:
# apt-get dist-upgrade |& tee LOG_/apt-get_dist-upgrade-f_${i}_$(date +%y%m%d_%H%M)_$(hostname).log

Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
Calculating upgrade...
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  geoip-database giblib1 libasprintf0c2 libbdplus0 libcanberra0 libcolamd2.8.0
  libdjvulibre-text libdjvulibre21 libept1.4.12 libfile-basedir-perl
  libgettextpo-dev libgettextpo0 libgif4 libglade2-0 libglib2.0-data
  libhsqldb1.8.0-java libhtml-form-perl libhttp-daemon-perl
  libipc-system-simple-perl libisc95 libisccc90 libisl10 libjasper1
  libkpathsea6 libllvm3.5 liblwres90 libpam-cap libpaper-utils libpng12-0
  libpoppler-glib8 libpoppler46 libpth20 libsasl2-modules libsctp1
  libservlet3.1-java libspectre1 libtie-ixhash-perl libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0
  libvisual-0.4-plugins libvte-2.90-9 libvte-2.90-common libwacom-bin
  libx11-protocol-perl libxapian22 libxml-twig-perl libxml-xpathengine-perl
  python-defusedxml qt5-gtk-platformtheme qttranslations5-l10n rarian-compat
  rename scrot tcpd util-linux-locales vdpau-va-driver
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libobrender29 libobt2 openjdk-7-jre openjdk-7-jre-headless tzdata-java
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  dirmngr gcc-7-base initramfs-tools-core keyutils libcolamd2 libdns-export162
  libgmime-2.6-0 libipc-system-simple-perl libisc-export160 libjson-c3
  libldap-common libllvm3.8 libmagic-mgc libnotmuch4 libnpth0 libobrender32v5
  libobt2v5 libprocps4 libservlet3.1-java libsuitesparseconfig4 libtfm1
  libwebpdemux2 libxapian30 linux-image-4.9.0-3-amd64 python3-apt
  python3-chardet python3-debian python3-debianbts python3-httplib2
  python3-pkg-resources python3-pycurl python3-pysimplesoap python3-reportbug
  python3-requests python3-six python3-urllib3 xxd
The following packages will be upgraded:
  apt-listchanges file gnupg gnupg-agent gnupg2 initramfs-tools
  isc-dhcp-client isc-dhcp-common libatomic1 libclamav7 libcurl3
  libfile-basedir-perl libgcc1 libgomp1 libhsqldb1.8.0-java libldap-2.4-2
  libmagic1 libquadmath0 libstdc++6 linux-image-amd64 lp-solve mutt nfs-common
  obconf openbox procps python-pil reportbug tzdata vim vim-common vim-runtime
  vim-tiny wget
34 upgraded, 37 newly installed, 5 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 495 kB/71.9 MB of archives.
After this operation, 186 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

is such a beauty to me.

Mind you that we are in Air-Gapped.

My fears that I wouldn't be able to accomplish Air-Gap Devuan updating are all but gone.

But I have to follow what I did in the clone. I have no alternatives, but only the archives that I got in in the clone.

# cat keep-or-remove_list_02.ls-1_KEEP.ls-1

libgettextpo-dev libgettextpo0 libgif4 libglade2-0 libglib2.0-data libhsqldb1.8.0-java libhtml-form-perl libhttp-daemon-perl libjasper1 libkpathsea6 libllvm3.5 libopenjpeg5 libpam-cap libpaper-utils libpng12-0 libpoppler-glib8 libpoppler46 libpth20 libsasl2-modules libx11-protocol-perl powermgmt-base python-wstools qt5-gtk-platformtheme qttranslations5-l10n rarian-compat rename tcpd util-linux-locales vdpau-va-driver

And the loop is:

# for i in $(cat LOG_add_/keep-or-remove_list_02.ls-1_KEEP.ls-1); do echo apt-get install $i;  ask; if [ "$?" == 0 ] ; then apt-get install $i |& tee LOG_/apt-get_install_${i}_$(date +%y%m%d_%H%M)_$(hostname) ; read FAKE ; fi ; done ;

One more snag:
apt-get install powermgmt-base

[y/n] y
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  geoip-database giblib1 libasprintf0c2 libbdplus0 libcanberra0
  libdjvulibre-text libdjvulibre21 libept1.4.12 libfile-basedir-perl
  libhsqldb1.8.0-java libisc95 libisccc90 libisl10 liblwres90 libspectre1
  libtie-ixhash-perl libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0 libvisual-0.4-plugins libvte-2.90-9
  libvte-2.90-common libwacom-bin libxapian22 libxml-twig-perl
  libxml-xpathengine-perl python-defusedxml qt5-gtk-platformtheme
  qttranslations5-l10n rarian-compat rename scrot tcpd util-linux-locales
  vdpau-va-driver
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  powermgmt-base
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 34 not upgraded.
Need to get 9,240 B of archives.
After this operation, 52.2 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Err:1 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 powermgmt-base all 1.31+nmu1
  Temporary failure resolving 'packages.devuan.org'
Err:1 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 powermgmt-base all 1.31+nmu1
  Temporary failure resolving 'packages.devuan.org'
E: Failed to fetch http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/p/powermgmt-base/powermgmt-base_1.31+nmu1_all.deb  Temporary failure resolving 'packages.devuan.org'
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?

While I could try "--fix-missing", I searched, and really don't have this packaged downloaded... Hmmhh..

And there's neither a way for me to (easily and quickly) recover it from the clone, where I just checked, it is installed... So I shouldn't have removed it in this master... Argh... Hope it will be easily fixed...

Similarly:
apt-get install python-wstools

[y/n] y
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  geoip-database giblib1 libasprintf0c2 libbdplus0 libcanberra0
  libdjvulibre-text libdjvulibre21 libept1.4.12 libfile-basedir-perl
  libhsqldb1.8.0-java libisc95 libisccc90 libisl10 liblwres90 libspectre1
  libtie-ixhash-perl libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0 libvisual-0.4-plugins libvte-2.90-9
  libvte-2.90-common libwacom-bin libxapian22 libxml-twig-perl
  libxml-xpathengine-perl python-defusedxml qt5-gtk-platformtheme
  qttranslations5-l10n rarian-compat rename scrot tcpd util-linux-locales
  vdpau-va-driver
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  python-wstools
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 34 not upgraded.
Need to get 141 kB of archives.
After this operation, 444 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Err:1 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 python-wstools all 0.4.3-3
  Temporary failure resolving 'packages.devuan.org'
Err:1 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 python-wstools all 0.4.3-3
  Temporary failure resolving 'packages.devuan.org'
E: Failed to fetch http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/p/python-wstools/python-wstools_0.4.3-3_all.deb  Temporary failure resolving 'packages.devuan.org'
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?

My attention span had weakened and I made mistakes...

# rsync -av --delete  var_cache_170624_0912_gdOv/cache/ /var/cache/

sending incremental file list
apt/
apt/pkgcache.bin
apt/srcpkgcache.bin
apt/archives/
apt/archives/libevdev-dev_1.5.6+dfsg-1_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libevdev-tools_1.5.6+dfsg-1_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libinput-dev_1.6.3-1_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libinput-tools_1.6.3-1_amd64.deb
apt/archives/libjs-jquery_3.1.1-2_all.deb
apt/archives/libudev-dev_232-25_amd64.deb
apt/archives/xserver-xorg-input-evdev-dbg_1%3a2.10.5-1_amd64.deb
apt/archives/xserver-xorg-input-evdev-dev_1%3a2.10.5-1_all.deb
apt/archives/xserver-xorg-input-libinput-dev_0.23.0-2_all.deb
apt/archives/partial/
debconf/
debconf/config.dat
...
man/zh_CN/
man/zh_TW/

sent 61,554,230 bytes  received 763 bytes  17,587,140.86 bytes/sec
total size is 370,703,087  speedup is 6.02

Now:
# apt-get dist-upgrade |& tee LOG_/apt-get_dist-upgrade_$(date +%y%m%d_%H%M)_$(hostname).log

Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
Calculating upgrade...
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  geoip-database giblib1 libasprintf0c2 libbdplus0 libcanberra0 libcolamd2.8.0
  libdjvulibre-text libdjvulibre21 libept1.4.12 libfile-basedir-perl
  libhsqldb1.8.0-java libipc-system-simple-perl libisc95 libisccc90 libisl10
  liblwres90 libsctp1 libspectre1 libtie-ixhash-perl libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0
  libvisual-0.4-plugins libvte-2.90-9 libvte-2.90-common libwacom-bin
  libxapian22 libxml-twig-perl libxml-xpathengine-perl python-defusedxml scrot
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libobrender29 libobt2 openjdk-7-jre openjdk-7-jre-headless tzdata-java
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  dirmngr gcc-7-base initramfs-tools-core keyutils libcolamd2 libdns-export162
  libgmime-2.6-0 libipc-system-simple-perl libisc-export160 libjson-c3
  libldap-common libllvm3.8 libmagic-mgc libnotmuch4 libnpth0 libobrender32v5
  libobt2v5 libprocps4 libsuitesparseconfig4 libtfm1 libwebpdemux2 libxapian30
  linux-image-4.9.0-3-amd64 python3-apt python3-chardet python3-debian
  python3-debianbts python3-httplib2 python3-pkg-resources python3-pycurl
  python3-pysimplesoap python3-reportbug python3-requests python3-six
  python3-urllib3 xxd
The following packages will be upgraded:
  apt-listchanges file gnupg gnupg-agent gnupg2 initramfs-tools
  isc-dhcp-client isc-dhcp-common libatomic1 libclamav7 libcurl3
  libfile-basedir-perl libgcc1 libgomp1 libldap-2.4-2 libmagic1 libquadmath0
  libstdc++6 linux-image-amd64 lp-solve mutt nfs-common obconf openbox procps
  python-pil reportbug tzdata vim vim-common vim-runtime vim-tiny wget
33 upgraded, 36 newly installed, 5 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 495 kB/70.8 MB of archives.
After this operation, 186 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

And here are more of my errors that show:

Err:1 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 libipc-system-simple-perl all 1.25-3
  Temporary failure resolving 'packages.devuan.org'
Ign:2 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 libfile-basedir-perl all 0.07-1
Ign:3 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 libwebpdemux2 amd64 0.5.2-1
Ign:4 http://packages.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 python-pil amd64 4.0.0-4
Err:1 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 libipc-system-simple-perl all 1.25-3
  Temporary failure resolving 'packages.devuan.org'
Err:2 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 libfile-basedir-perl all 0.07-1
  Temporary failure resolving 'packages.devuan.org'
Err:3 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 libwebpdemux2 amd64 0.5.2-1
  Temporary failure resolving 'packages.devuan.org'
Err:4 http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 python-pil amd64 4.0.0-4
  Temporary failure resolving 'packages.devuan.org'
E: Failed to fetch http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/libi/libipc-system-simple-perl/libipc-system-simple-perl_1.25-3_all.deb  Temporary failure resolving 'packages.devuan.org'
E: Failed to fetch http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/libf/libfile-basedir-perl/libfile-basedir-perl_0.07-1_all.deb  Temporary failure resolving 'packages.devuan.org'
E: Failed to fetch http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/libw/libwebp/libwebpdemux2_0.5.2-1_amd64.deb  Temporary failure resolving 'packages.devuan.org'
E: Failed to fetch http://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/p/pillow/python-pil_4.0.0-4_amd64.deb  Temporary failure resolving 'packages.devuan.org'
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?

But that won't be so much to fix...

If the system is workable, I'll clone it as is, because it's the other work pertaining to air-gapping that is a lot of work and which I have done already for it.

I am not going online with that clone anymore.

In the next post, I'll use "--fix-missing".

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