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I am wondering whether in lxqt you are running into the same problems as in openbox with lxde.
The way to utilize the lxsession-logout in openbox is if lxpolkit is running. I wonder if it is similar in lxqt's openbox.
I still haven't found a light solution for switchin keyboards (language) in openbox, without the function being part of a task/bar or panel.Unless lxqt's logout is not working in lxqt session and I misinterpret it at all. In this case lxsession-logout may be working on lxqt as well.
PS (edit) If we had OpenRC working it would be easier I think
I was reading the other day...shocker! Anyway...since keyboard layouts have been a concern of mine lately, I was reading around about it, and saw something that I've meant to try but forgot about...shocker!
It might be what you're looking for (if it works). To quickly change keyboard layouts to...let's say...German, open your terminal and issue...
loadkeys de
Then back to US English...
loadkeys us
Like I said though, I haven't tried it yet. However, if it works, you could easily add it to the menu if you didn't want to open the terminal and type it each time. I would try it now, but I'm on my phone.
I've installed OpenRC three times, and it worked great each time. My only reservation is how it would continue to function as dist-upgrades took place. Might still work great though.
I'm going to do a test install soon of the full LXQt desktop to see how its shutdown options work. If they do, that'll give me something to compare to.
fsr, if you read this, that package didn't help. Thank you though.
had to replace the native LXQt shutdown options with Obsession since none of them worked
I have an lxqt install, and all the logout buttons work. We have the same policykit packages installed (except you included the l10n package). Mine started out as openbox with lxpanel. You have libpam-gnome-keyring. I don't. Other libpam stuff is the same.
Maybe it's in the 'power' packages. I have libupower-glib3 that you don't have, and I see that xfce4-power-manager is running in mine. Not saying you need to do anything about it. All the logout buttons work in your iso. But since so many people run into problems with logout buttons, I figured this was a good place to drop my observations.
Thanks fsr; I'll try installing that on mine later and see if it helps. If it does, I'll fix the .isos and re-upload them.
For now though, I ain't doin' nothin', 'cause I've been battling an oncoming migraine, and it looks like I'm losing. Gonna crawl in a dark hole somewhere...
I imagine it's xset, this is not exclusive to LXqt, it's a part of the X system
xset -s off <---to disable screensaver
xset -dpms <--to disable power management
xset -q <-- to see current settings
man xset <--for manpage
You can use xset for an easy screensaver or even to suspend after x amount of time.
Ahh...thank you sir.
Wow...thanks for checking fsr! I deeply appreciate that.
As to the lid closure issue. How do I put this? I think people who are fans of (or familiar with) LXQt realize that "some things" still don't work exactly right with the LXQt DE since it's still under development. On top of that, I had to replace the native LXQt shutdown options with Obsession since none of them worked (except Logout).
I made the .isos by request from a friend who wanted a Devuan LXQt system. Someone new to LXQt may not realize that there are still a few issues with the LXQt DE. One of the biggest being...the default file manager is PCManFM-Qt. It's a dependency, so it gets installed automatically. However, trying to use it as root is a major pain in the derrière. That's why I included the GTK version of PCManFM...so users could perform root actions in the file manager without problems.
The LXQt power manager brings up another issue...after 10 minutes, the screen turns off automatically no matter what you do in the LXQt power management settings. I know an experienced user can change that in a file somewhere (it's been so long since I've done it that I don't remember where the file is or what it's called), but an easy fix for most users will be to install either xscreensaver (with several dependencies) or the xfce4-power-manager to stop this. I personally prefer...
apt-get install xfce4-power-manager --no-install-recommends
...because it does the job and doesn't install hardly any dependencies. I'll be adding that to the Wiki on Sourceforge.
Thanks again for giving it a test. I do appreciate it.
If anyone is interested, I've just uploaded MiyoQt (a minimal desktop with the LXQt DE) based on Devuan Ascii in both 32 and 64 bit editions...the 64bit "should" be compatible with either BIOS or UEFI.
Thanks to fsr for making me dig.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/miyoli … oQt-Ascii/
I hope that I'll be able to upload my Miyo-XTRA-Ascii-UEFI versions tomorrow...one with kernel 4.9.0 and the other with kernel 4.13.0.
Deleted a big pile of pointless 512x512 PNG's too, and all the Adwaita 256x256's.
DAGNABIT! ...and I was wanting to make a poster...
MiyoLinux wrote:My wife installed updates last night, and I got a call at work this morning from her...her computer wouldn't boot up.
Needless to say, I didn't expect it to all go to shit quite that fast... bad luck.
Tell me about it...
Oh well, live and learn. Kind of reminded me of changing a diaper. Had to "wipe" it clean.
MiyoLinux wrote:....look to see if there is an "index.theme" included. If not, you may have to install the regular (square) Numix icons too. When I first started using the Circle icons, they wouldn't work unless the regular (square) icons were also installed.
What does square have to do with numix? There's no index.theme.
Numix Icons are square in shape; Numix Circle Icons are (or were) a supplement to the square shaped Numix icons. Unless they have changed, Numix Circle wouldn't work without also installing the square Numix Icons too. That's how it worked when I started using them. If it's changed, I don't know, because I made a .zip file of them back then, and that's what I've used ever since.
Also...
After you extract it, look to see if there is an "index.theme" included. If not, you may have to install the regular (square) Numix icons too. When I first started using the Circle icons, they wouldn't work unless the regular (square) icons were also installed.
I can log in, but I don't know if anyone else can. Would someone please let me know if you can or can't log in?
I can log in, but that's it...no access to anything else.
The adventure came to a screeching halt today...
cynwulf and FOSSuser nailed it...and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
In my hesitancy of installing on a UEFI computer for the first time, and not wanting to screw up my wife's computer, I took the easy route and installed a distro that would basically take care of it for me. I don't want to name it, but it starts with an "X" and ends with an "ubuntu".
My wife installed updates last night, and I got a call at work this morning from her...her computer wouldn't boot up.
To make a long story short, I installed Miyo-XTRA-Ascii on another one of my partitions, changed it over to EFI, built a new .iso of it, and installed that on her computer (with the xfce panel as default for her).
All I can say is that fsmithred is a genius!
edited to correct the spelling of cynwulf's name
Hey fsr...I don't know how interested you might be in this feedback, but I did a UEFI install of Miyo-XTRA-Ascii today...it went smooth as silk.
Now I'm tempted to release that .iso too. LOL!
Thanks for all of your work...your geniousness is supreme sir.
Mwuhaha...MWUHAHA...MWUHAHAAAAA!!!
Yes...YES...YES!!!
My stinkin' intuition stinkin' paid off for stinkin' once! LOL!
As of this writing on 27 October 2017 at 15:27 EST, I just finished upgrading Miyo-XTRA-Ascii to Ceres, and the dynamic Applications menu works without a hitch!
Y...E...S...!!!
Stinkin' great!
...now to fix the Exec= commands in some of the applications...
Y...E...S...!!!
I was referring to the image (iso)
Oh...okay. Well, the actual .iso image has been squashed. Anything added in the live session hasn't been...so it's showing the additions as their actual size added to the squashed .iso image...if that makes sense.
This has a date right?
Miyo-XTRA-Ascii-64bit-20171024
Yes, that's the date.
I'm going to work on my celeron-xtra now with 256k-Ram
Wow! Give us a screenshot when you're finished!
Very cool Miyo.
Thank you ma'am.
I am amazed of the size of the thing. When I gave it a try I added a tiny bit more and the image doubled.
The installed size? If so, that surprised me too. I've installed several things, but not a whole lot...and I'm already over 11 GBs.
Downloads of the Ascii version are at...
I've also just added a .zip file for the alternative menu with icons (found at the same link in the quote above)...so it's there if anyone wants to try it.
Instead of posting pictures, here's a short video showing what it looks like.
Downloads of the Ascii version are at...
I'm waiting on the release notes so I can apply them
They won't all apply! LOL!
Okay...I hope to have them uploaded by tomorrow afternoon IF all goes well. The internet here hasn't been very cooperative lately.
As I stated earlier, these are based on Ascii. I also based them on Miyo-XTRA, because those versions have gotten the most total downloads of this year's releases.
What's different? The menu, I switched from Wicd to Connman, and just a few other odds-n-ends.
The menu. Though I love Obmenu-Generator, I wanted to keep this pure Devuan as much as possible to hopefully mitigate any problems in future updates/upgrades/dist-upgrades. So, while Obmenu-Generator isn't included, the menu is still dynamic...sort of.
I linked the xfce applications menu into the openbox menu, so the "Applications" section is dynamic and will add (or remove) applications automatically. The rest of the menu is static. The "Applications" also have icons; however, the rest of the menu doesn't. I struggled with whether to code in icons for the rest of the menu, but after mulling it over, I didn't want to force icons on someone when they may not be to their taste. When I have time, I'm going to go ahead and add icons to mine. When I'm finished, I'll post a picture and include the menu.xml file if anyone wants to use it.
Here's a first-boot picture of the 64 bit. This is with PCManFM's control over the desktop disabled...
I've had 2 of these for months, 1 is 32b the other 64b
The third is vuu-do64ascii
Oh.
Miyo-XTRA-Ascii...it's almost heeeeeeeeerrrrrrreeee. LOL! I'm stinkin' excited. LOLOLOL!
I could be wrong, but I don't think it's a bug on your end. I just tried it with Adwaita, and the next month looked the same color. There was a slight difference, but I had to stand on my head, close one eye, hold my breath, and eat saw briars to notice it.
Using that command I mentioned, I get a calendar that looks like Mate calendar or gsimplecal in every respect, except it doesn't gray out the next months days at the bottom of the calendar.
The next month is grayed out with that command for me greenjeans. Could it just be the Theme that you're using on your system? I tried it with a few different themes, and they all grayed out the next month...but some were less gray than others depending on the theme.
I probably shouldn't post this...as they say...don't count your eggs before they hatch. However, I've been working on a Miyo-Ascii version. Looks like things are looking up? I was able to actually connect to the internet on a live version (on a test computer) that has refused all of my previous attempts. I'm writing this from that live session on that computer.
If all goes well, this won't be the normal Miyo...no Obmenu-Generator menu on this, but it will be somewhat similar to Miyo-XTRA. I just hope I haven't spoken too soon. I'm just too stinkin' excited that it's actually working. LOLOLOL!!!
Part 1:
My wife recently asked me to replace her WIndows 8 with Linux ( she knows the way to my heart ). Knowing my wife, she needed something simple. After looking around, I finally decided on a Linux OS to put on her computer...a distro which won't be named.
Her computer was like a turtle on sleeping pills. S...L...O...W !!! She was really weary of its performance, but she needed her computer for her work as a Disney Travel Agent. 99% of her work is done online, Other than that, if she can watch Netflix, she's happy. So, I knew she'd have no real problems using Linux. She just wants to be able to point and click, use the internet, write an occasional document/spreadsheet, and watch Netflix...but don't even think about mentioning the word "Terminal" to her. She needed something that didn't require any real work on her part...and something that she could use without me having to be there to fix it since I work such long and crazy hours.
Now...I've never installed Linux on an UEFI machine before, so I was a bit concerned that I could possibly screw her computer up royally, but being the man I am, I didn't let her know that. LOLOLOLOL!!!
I did a small bit of research and found mixed results as to what I should do. The day came for the install, so I went into the BIOS, disabled Secure Boot, and I set it to boot from a USB. Nothing else. Told the installer to replace Windows, and...
...everything went smooth as silk. WHEW!
She kept talking about how fast it was now with Linux.
She obviously has a hardware problem though. On WIndows 8, after using the laptop on just battery power, when it was recharging, the screen would constantly dim and brighten while the battery recharged. It doesn't do that any longer with Linux, but it did constantly throw up Notifications about the battery status while recharging. So...I disabled the battery notifications. That fixed it. LOLOLOL!!!
We now have a new Linux user.
Part 2:
After using my Devuan Ascii LXQt build for a while, I started missing Miyo. Nothing was wrong with LXQt on Ascii whatsoever, but I wanted my Miyo back. So...I replaced it with a fresh install of Miyo-XTRA.
Synopsis: It's been a good week.
Well, this is why I am warning Miyo about LXQT, it may be harder to deal with than the good old trusty lxde.
Thanks fungus. So far, LXQt has done great! It's light, fast, stable, and a workhorse!
Check this out. First will be from the LXQt build; in which, I've installed all of the things that I want and need to use.
root@miyo-lxqt:/home/dan# uname -a
Linux miyo-lxqt 4.9.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.51-1 (2017-09-28) x86_64 GNU/Linux
root@miyo-lxqt:/home/dan# find / -name systemd*
/etc/systemd
/usr/share/lintian/checks/systemd.pm
/usr/share/lintian/checks/systemd.desc
/usr/share/lintian/data/systemd
/usr/lib/systemd
/var/lib/systemd
/lib/systemd
root@miyo-lxqt:/home/dan# dpkg -l | grep systemd
ii libsystemd0:amd64 232-25+deb9u1
Now, here's my very basic Miyo-XTRA. This is on a separate partition, and I use it to solely do all of my online banking and/or shopping. The only package that I've added onto the basic installation of this Miyo is Firefox-ESR...
root@miyolinux:/home/dan# uname -a
Linux miyolinux 3.16.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.16.43-2+deb8u5 (2017-09-19) i686 GNU/Linux
root@miyolinux:/home/dan# find / -name systemd*
/etc/systemd
/usr/share/man/man8/systemd-udevd-control.socket.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/systemd-udevd-kernel.socket.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/systemd-udevd.service.8.gz
/usr/share/man/man8/systemd-udevd.8.gz
/usr/share/lintian/checks/systemd.desc
/usr/share/lintian/checks/systemd.pm
/var/lib/systemd
/lib/systemd
/lib/systemd/system/systemd-udevd.service
/lib/systemd/system/sockets.target.wants/systemd-udevd-control.socket
/lib/systemd/system/sockets.target.wants/systemd-udevd-kernel.socket
/lib/systemd/system/systemd-udev-trigger.service
/lib/systemd/system/sysinit.target.wants/systemd-udevd.service
/lib/systemd/system/sysinit.target.wants/systemd-udev-trigger.service
/lib/systemd/system/systemd-udevd-control.socket
/lib/systemd/system/systemd-udevd-kernel.socket
/lib/systemd/system/systemd-udev-settle.service
/lib/systemd/systemd-udevd
root@miyolinux:/home/dan# dpkg -l | grep systemd
ii libsystemd0:i386 215-17+deb8u7 i386 systemd utility library
That pesky udev...
I think it is time to quit your day job.
People are dumping ubuntu for miyo!
Let me know when you'll start hiring
L...O...L!!! Unfortunately, I'm just a guy who has figured out a few things.
I remember when I first started using Linux. It wasn't because I wanted to; it was because I had to. Our circa-Windows Vista computer became unusable. It was either do something (install Linux) or have no computer.
I didn't know what I was doing, but I somehow got Ubuntu installed on it. It was so slow, but it was better than nothing. At that time, I knew nothing about RAM, CPU, firmware, hardware, etc... (the computer had less than 1 GB of RAM...no wonder Ubuntu didn't perform too well). I eventually installed Zorin Lite, and it did much better.
I remember asking a few questions on some Linux forums and being told that I needed to...
cd into this
chroot into that
I didn't have a stinkin' clue what they were talking about, and I was treated like I was an idiot because I didn't miraculously know...bunch'a stinkin' jerks they were! LOL!
So, what I've learned has been through a lot of internet searches, a whole lot of trial and error, and the occasional person who would actually help.
I remember what it's like not having a clue what someone means when they say, "You need to cd into __________, then blah blah blah."
Soooooo...I try to remember that when (and if) I'm able to help someone. Many times, the person may not need the extra information, but I remember what it was like when I just wanted someone to tell me what I needed to do. I don't give a rip for these people who won't answer a question UNLESS the person asking has already searched google or their forums (cough cough Arch for example). Stinkin' google isn't always right, and keywords don't always turn up what you need.
Anyway...I'm still learning myself! LOLOLOLOL!!!
...and if I didn't say stinkin' enough times...here it is again...
stinkin'
...and if I've offended anyone with this post...get a stinkin' backbone.