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#701 Re: DIY » Regarding making cronie jobs, » 2023-03-06 23:20:09

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

/etc/rc.local belongs to initscripts which according to its dependencies are used the same in sysv-rc | file-rc | openrc.

So, no, it's not a sysvinit function.

I suppose there is always the question of which belongs to what, and in particular, which part of the OS belongs to "the init system". When asked, different people answers different things about that. Perhaps the most strict view about sysvinit would be to say that it consists only of the binaries of sysvinit-core and the configuration file /etc/inittab, and then anything below that is "run control", start up code or daemons.

And then perhaps an opposite "init is everything" may also be peddled, as well as any concept granularity in between.

Hmm... the peculiar thing is... I don't have an rc.local.

I have something like this:

a readme is here:
  /usr/share/openrc/support/sysvinit/README.md               
says the below:

Here's a sample inittab for use with sysvinit for Linux based systems.
We don't install it by default as sysvinit packages normally own this file.

Anywho, isn't there an example of what it is supposed to look like when it is being used?

I suppose I could check other unixlike systems to see what they look like when cron is being used.

#702 Re: Off-topic » Got another troll prank! » 2023-03-06 23:17:26

golinux wrote:
zapper wrote:

https://github.com/google/recaptcha/issues/519

@andyprough
@head-on-a-stick

Thoughts?

big_smile

You will both love it if it remains there long enough.

Haven't you noticed that the forum has been wonderfully "normal" lately? HoaS hasn't logged in since 2023-02-14 . . .

Oh wow, what happened to HoaS?

I was unaware...

Very odd...

#703 Off-topic » Got another troll prank! » 2023-03-06 22:38:27

zapper
Replies: 16

https://github.com/google/recaptcha/issues/519

@andyprough
@head-on-a-stick

Thoughts?

big_smile

You will both love it if it remains there long enough.

#704 Re: Devuan » Devuan LXQt Themes » 2023-03-04 00:43:53

@charliebrownau

sourcehut is only trickier, but it doesn't look that bad.  codeberg.org and notabug are also probably options. The others, I agree completely.

As for "modern"

The modern look to put it bluntly, would be best described like this:

Imagine a huge sewer that explodes and the gunk from inside covers an entire neighborhood including your house, that would be modern.

Now imagine that never happened and things looked just fine, that would be decent.

big_smile

Modern and Decent very often conflict in today's world.

Has been this way since the mid 2000s, just a heads up. smile

#705 Re: Devuan Derivatives » big memory stick 2 TB and refracta (or an other Devuan real or derivat » 2023-03-04 00:34:25

oui wrote:

I did receive today my first big memory stick with 2 Terra Bytes capacity connected with the USB 3 connector of my laptop (having itself only 3/4 TB memory). The stick includes an unique file named «IndexerVolumeGuid». Gparted recognizes a /dev/sdb1 with 1,81 TB free in a size 1,81 TB. Pre used are only 62,47 MB. BootFlag is set on. The file system is named «exfat» by gparted.

I would like to install my REFRACTA daedalus from the new iso proposed since 20230228 to start directly from that memory.

Does it be possible?

What is the safe method to get an good installation with the possibility of course to use the rest of that big memory.

What is the best way to create new partitions (the same way as usual: gparted > create new table >> create one little partition >>> ev. create a casperss-rw >>>> create one or more new data partitions with or without unetbootin or refracta usb)

Can unetbootin be used?

Funny you should mention that, I got mine a few weeks ago.

Btw, if you have the right permissions, it can be as simple as using via sudo or root, mkfs.ext3 or mkfs.ext4 or mkfs.vfat + whichever drive you want to format with it.

This is arcane method to do so, but it does work.

As for multi-paritioning, cfdisk /dev/sdrive in root would also work too if you want to do it in a less power intensive method.

Dunno if this helps, but this works on most linux systems probably.

#706 Re: DIY » Regarding making cronie jobs, » 2023-03-04 00:25:50

fsmithred wrote:

The scripts in /etc/cron.* and /etc/rc.local will run as root. Any that you set in your desktop startup apps will run as your user.

Hmm... okay, just one thing comes to mind though, how would this work in openrc?

I cannot find /etc/rc.local and I am not completely sure what a script is supposed to look like when it is set  to do a command.

I ask because, isn't /etc/rc.local a sysvinit function?

#707 Re: DIY » Regarding making cronie jobs, » 2023-03-03 07:19:05

fsmithred wrote:

For every hour, you could put a script in /etc/cron.hourly.
For running something upon login, you would probably put it in some file that gets sourced at login or in your desktop's startup apps. (e.g. .bashrc, .profile, .xsettings, or other. I'm not sure what's most appropriate.)
For running something when you boot up, you could put commands in /etc/rc.local.

Would it have root permissions? If so, that would suffice.

#708 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Help requested with WINE setup and/or Chromium Cache Searching » 2023-03-03 07:18:07

alexkemp wrote:

Mark Hindley in the bug report was able to get to the gates of success in installing wine32 on a vanilla chimaera, and has therefore fingered backports as the reason for the error on my system. That log-file reported a terrifyingly-large number of i386 packages to install as helpers to wine32.

I would like to give public thanks to Mark for his help so far, but I'm going to remove all traces of Wine & the i386 architecture from my system.

Wise considering the lack of security on wine.

#709 Re: DIY » A Survey of User-made Content » 2023-03-03 07:17:03

golinux wrote:

I have gkrellm installed from the Devuan repos so why does it need to be added to this repo?

Hmm... nvm then.

I didn't realize there was a hide taskbar option for this.

That's why I wanted this.

I saw this app on puppylinux's jwm build a while back.

wink

#710 Re: DIY » A Survey of User-made Content » 2023-03-01 05:43:16

I may have once mentioned once that I was searching for a specific system load monitor...

I out of nowhere found which one it was...

gkrellm was what I was seeking all along...

big_smile

I recommend someone add this to the repo here you mentioned starting/have in place.

Btw, couldn't load website till recently.

wink

#711 DIY » Regarding making cronie jobs, » 2023-02-28 19:01:45

zapper
Replies: 12

I wanted to know how to do so and also, how to do so with command line arguments.

Like this for example:

xset dpms noblank on

ONLY, added to whatever crontab I want.

The one I actually want added is this though, for root:

tblock -Syu

Aka, I want tblock to update my /etc/hosts every time I log in and after that, every hour.

Thoughts?

#712 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Help requested with WINE setup and/or Chromium Cache Searching » 2023-02-28 02:25:53

Btw, when I said compiling is an option, I should clarify, I meant wine, not chromium or ungoogled chromium.

Wine actually isnt at all hard to compile, as long as you have the multilib stuff supposedly.

#713 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Anyone where to find more cartoony old icons for jwm? » 2023-02-25 19:14:28

JWM-Kit wrote:

@zapper.  Look at some of these.

https://smokey01.com/icon-sets/

The icon sets are .pet packages.  So you will have to extract the icons from the package.

I think following set might be of interest: GartoonPup, Gartoonredux, HaikuPup, Noia-Warm, Nuovo-001, Puppy-gant, and Retrosmart. But there may be more you can pull some icons from. 

I've notice that puppy kind of makes it's own desktop standard.  So you may need to rename some of the files to follow the standard desktop specification.
I have also noticed a lot of these cartoon style icons are .png.  So they will be less optimal in terms of both quality, and performance/resource usage when compared to .svg

Actually, I found what I wanted just now...

something like this:

https://rwm.sourceforge.net/Screenshots.xhtml

Are there any like that on your page? Those look awesome to me.

Specifically this:

https://rwm.sourceforge.net/images/oldrwm.png

#714 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Anyone where to find more cartoony old icons for jwm? » 2023-02-25 18:58:48

JWM-Kit wrote:

@zapper.  Look at some of these.

https://smokey01.com/icon-sets/

The icon sets are .pet packages.  So you will have to extract the icons from the package.

I think following set might be of interest: GartoonPup, Gartoonredux, HaikuPup, Noia-Warm, Nuovo-001, Puppy-gant, and Retrosmart. But there may be more you can pull some icons from. 

I've notice that puppy kind of makes it's own desktop standard.  So you may need to rename some of the files to follow the standard desktop specification.
I have also noticed a lot of these cartoon style icons are .png.  So they will be less optimal in terms of both quality, and performance/resource usage when compared to .svg

Actually, I found what I wanted just now...

something like this:

https://rwm.sourceforge.net/Screenshots.xhtml

Are there any like that on your page? Those look awesome to me.

#716 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » [SOLVED] Help requested with WINE setup and/or Chromium Cache Searching » 2023-02-24 05:09:21

Not relevant persay, but which chromium is this btw? Regular, or ungoogled?

You can try compiling from source though if this is an issue.

I used to do that all the time on non-mainstream distros.

I recommend people do the same, if this issue comes up.

Though it might still be frustrating. If you have a lot of cpus and more than one comp, its wise to use one for compiling, probably recommended at a slower speed if you want to be extra careful regarding heat.

The other one, do whatever probably.

Worked for me many time.

Hope this helps somewhat.

#717 Re: Freedom Hacks » To permanently block installation of Pulseaudio. » 2023-02-24 04:52:01

JWM-Kit wrote:
zapper wrote:

btw,  jwmkit has some features to fix this issue.  Works nicely, although you still need alsa-utils  installed even if its not online while sndio is and alsa-sndio.

wink

Sndio can do per application stream which alsa cannot ever do on its own last I checked.

Although maybe this has changed or isn't true?

sndio is a good audio server.  Although you must use Daedalus/Bookworm if you want to use sndio because the package is way out of date in early versions of Devuan/Debian.

Also because of this JWMKit's sndio functionality has never been tested on Devu(bi)an.  So I can't promise it works, but it does works well on other distros.  I'll have to experiment with it when I have a chance.

Well, if I had to guess, it isn't up to date on devuan, because there isn't enough interest. Pulseaudio/pipewire has more currently.

Talk about feed the blob...

wink

Aka, sndio can do the same thing thanks to you.  If people didn't always pick the easy way, these bloated alternatives, like the stuff redhat provides, would have never succeeded.

You don't feed a bully, you cut them off and don't let them push you around.

When I said blob, I was though referring to the size like that old cheesy movie would have defined it as.

#718 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Anyone where to find more cartoony old icons for jwm? » 2023-02-24 04:47:34

Kelsoo wrote:

https://github.com/daemonblade/gartoon-redux

My fav theme if I can be bothered. I love how you get the source svg's so can modify them easily. Gpl'd

Actually, I just remembered, puppylinux has some! I wonder where I can find them tho.

I'll look another time maybe.

#719 Devuan Derivatives » Anyone where to find more cartoony old icons for jwm? » 2023-02-16 02:40:53

zapper
Replies: 14

Been wondering about this for a long time... tried searching a bit ago, but failed...

tongue

#720 Re: Off-topic » Beware of the Zeitgeist... and a reminder to inspect packages/source. » 2023-02-16 02:39:46

pungentweasel wrote:
zephyr wrote:

Imagine it is in other apps, these two I'm aware of and don't use.

cheers

zephyr

It's been around the block for a while....

https://i.ibb.co/BrWJCgT/image.png

And in 2009 it was GNOME Zeitgeist. 13 years old at minimum, and still active.

That image says it all.

Gnome, KDE and Ubuntu use it, which is an automatic bad sign, given its other problems.

Always examine anything that the eye candy Desktop Environments or Window Managers if they require dbus, polkit, systemd, networkmanager, pulseaudio, pipewire, or zeitgiest...

The dbus part is probably on the lower end of that list as far as most are concerned, but the others, especially systemd and zeitgeist, are just, no.

#721 Re: Off-topic » Beware of the Zeitgeist... and a reminder to inspect packages/source. » 2023-02-16 02:35:41

Once I realized what Zeitgeist was, I tried to delete it as much as possible.

Essentially, its an open source spyware.

As far as I know...

Notice btw,  one of the words rhymes with heist.

This is very appropriate on many levels.

tongue

#722 Re: Devuan Derivatives » JWM KIT love fest » 2023-02-16 02:24:18

brday wrote:
andyprough wrote:

Hey zap, check out my setup today - Hyperbola (testing) with jwm, jwm kit, and I got the latest abrowser from Trisquel running.

I'll look for your email - I think they've been getting sent to the spam folder for some reason. I'll email you my phone number so you can text me.

https://trisquel.info/files/HyperbolaJwmKit5.jpg

Unbelievable, the consumption of the machine with JWM is very low, how can you achieve all that? There is no clear guide showing how to configure and customize the system with the jwm window manager.

My only guess is they use primarily C programming.

I had thought it was made in lisp, but not sure now.

Also, I think the dev has more than enough brain cells to know that bloatware is common enough already.

We don't need more. tongue

To be fair, I consider him a genius more than all the other wm or de creators.

CDE I might consider as a desktop environment in future or  continuing using JWM instead as I do already.

smile

#723 Re: Freedom Hacks » To permanently block installation of Pulseaudio. » 2023-02-16 02:15:55

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
zapper wrote:

the software using it, intentionally has more support for pipewire

But isn't it the other way around? PipeWire provides the API needed to route sound correctly but ALSA has no such functionality (AFAIK).

Here's a(n old) list of what ALSA can't do:

https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Softwa … SA/Issues/

Trigger warning: Lennart wrote it big_smile

I actually realized something... I dislike his software, yes. But I don't hate him, redhat however, is the crux of the issue and even then I always hate them.

Sometimes emotions in me burst out, but in general, if there is ever a reason to hate out of any of these people, its people like the redhat leaders who are willing to destroy everything around them by bloating software nonstop for profit, etc...

This all being said, feel nothing but annoyance towards them right now. My simple point is this is part of a much larger problem which has not been fixed yet.

Its not just poettering, this goes well beyond him.

Microsoft, Google, Redhat, corporations as evil as them, are run by the core problem, which is prideful people who only feed good if they are persuing their greed and successfully annoying and in some cases harming people in general.

So yeah, don't care in either direction much about Poettering. Yes he is an ass, but nothing compared to the people above him.

He didn't get this freedom to abuse his power without the people above him.

Btw,  there is a better solution to the whole alsa situation the pulseaudio or pipewire.

Its called sndio.

btw,  jwmkit has some features to fix this issue.  Works nicely, although you still need alsa-utils  installed even if its not online while sndio is and alsa-sndio.

wink

Sndio can do per application stream which alsa cannot ever do on its own last I checked.

Although maybe this has changed or isn't true?

But yeah,  never knew how to do it nor do I currently.

#724 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Unity desktop environment » 2023-02-05 02:33:28

golinux wrote:

You are free to port Unity to Devuan and offer it to the community.

Question, seriously though...

Doesn't unity look similar to Gnome 3?

If it is that one,  that will be a tough task.

Anywho, just wondered

#725 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2023-02-05 02:10:10

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
MiyoLinux wrote:

changing the terminal to xterm

Why not use x-terminal-emulator instead? That way it will use whatever emulator is set as the default alternative. Some people don't like xterm and it won't even be installed in some systems.

Back on topic: got bored of fighting with finit so switched to runit-init instead:

https://i.postimg.cc/6TFwW6Mh/20230126-15h48m17s-grim.png

Made a polkid-dummy package 'cos I don't need that shit on my box.

Better idea, instead of xterm, most people should use sakura.

right clicking while sakura is open, gives you the only other options people really use:

Options gives you quite a few, but go to  Options and  then more you can get the scrollbar back . smile

And before options, after just right clicking, copy, paste and exit are already there as well as full screen.

Ignore if you wish, but of all the lightweight terminal emulators, sakura is very much what i would consider, the jwm of terminal emulators.

Very light, but has most of the functionality I think is needed, without sucking a huge crapton of resources for no reason.

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