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@EDX-0
Cool, I might just test it out now!
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I agree on both points. Btw, I have more patience with someone who just doesn't know of other alternatives then someone who while not needing windows, still chooses to use it as their main operating system when they aren't ignorant.
That is a special kind of awful, like the kind of awful that continues a perpetual unnecessary cycle, for nothing.
@zapper . . . I think you missed the point. Fisher-Price on steroids and fisher price steroids paint two entirely different mental images . . .
Yeah that's true... your saying its too much eye candy or is chidishly lame?
Help me understand here if possible.
or perhaps place it somewhere that is not on by microsoft.
I get if people want to play very old games, etc... if people use microsoft, but who does this by either A:
Exposing anything to the internet or B:
Running that as their main system.
Also, its interesting that windows is still an industry standard.
I wonder why bosses still want it done that way. That sounds like a good way to do security..................................................................If you like the security of being protected by an OS that seems like its made by someone who used the zombie drug, bathsalts... same with having windows being an industry standard.
zapper wrote:Doesn't unity look similar to Gnome 3?
I have no idea what gnome looks like. I abandoned that ship with the arrival of gnome3. The desktop image provided on the link has all the subtlety of Fisher-Price on steroids and caters to the ADD generation. I don't know how anyone could do serious work in that environment. Gives me a headache . . .
Devuan is not soliciting additional desktops and I am not sure it would even be offcially included unless it gets passed down to us from Debian.
Gnome 3 has a look similar to windows 8... although its possible gnome 3 came before that... idk.
Lumina Desktop, Common Desktop Environment are the only ones I might entertain myself, so long as the wallpaper I choose for the startup wouldn't be that mega creepy one with the seahorse and darkness nearby.
The rest is a... no
JWM obviously not a window manager, but I will likely use it until something better comes, which I would doubt will ever happen in the near decade at least as far as my desires.
Btw, unrelated and somewhat off topic, but if you want Fisher Price on steroids, I think Windows 10 has everyone beat, except windows 11 which pushes that off the hill even! ![]()
More off topic btw:
I would love to know what fisher price steroids must look like now that you made that comment. Not because I want them, but because it would be hysterical if someone tried to make some!
You know, like if green giant was known for more than just selling frozen vegetables... think illegal green planet in usa on the nation level. ![]()
Of course if they did that, it would be under the counter. xD
bump, because more feedback is desired!
Just a bump, because that thread was deleted LOL.
Since "depends" is the technical term that the package manager uses, it can't not be a right word, even if there might also be other more descriptive ones.
*shrug*
Whatever it's called, it would be nice to have a generalized list of packages to avoid, (along with reasons why, how, what the alternatives are, etc).
My point was that debian adds it as a dependency for their own reasons, reasons that aren't related to users wanting it or needing it.
Aka, it doesn't need to depend is a bettr way to say it.
They have ulterior motives.
Arm images are provided by the Devuan Arm community. They are not and never have been "officially" supported by Devuan.
So they are just added to the repo as long as they maintain them?
Btw, has anyone here actually had experience installing linux on arm?
Wondered how that works.
Actually, I found out what I sought was in icewm. My bad yall!
Egg on face... ![]()
Possibly yes; cron typically executes scripts and programs in /etc/cron.hourly according to the line saying so in /etc/crontab.
See also the note about PATH in man 5 crontab.
Couldn't figure out how to start this, dunno why.
*sigh*
But no worries, the developer of tblock actually is trying to debloat his package so it won't slow everything down to a crawl.
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No mention in this thread of other packages that come from PulseAudio's source package, e.g. libpulse0, pulseaudio-utils, and others.
Blocking/pinning pulseaudio* and libpulse* would handle them all, but there appears to be a lot of software that depends on libpulse0 package...
"depends" isn't the right word(s), because it works without it on other distros and/or operating systems.
"Forced to have" is more accurate due to the nature of bloatware that keeps getting added over and over again.
Pipewire and pulseaudio are good things to block.
alsasound was always an approach I preferred back then when I used devuan alot.
well, it works okay but i need to add checks that the values from the config file are valid before applying them, also perhaps adding a logging functionality, other than that it is okay enough.
Either way, whenever you get a chance, stable release would be nice.
@EDX-0 welp, here some interesting things i've cobbled together with what little i know.
sct-daemon: my own version of a daemon for sct, nice if you like the redshift function but don't like the bloat of the program. https://github.com/eylles/sct-daemon
How well does sct-daemon work?
If it works well enough, a stable tarball release would be appreciated for people who need that before it can be added. ![]()
zapper wrote:Actually, he probably could do that. Maybe he did what I did when I used to use devuan and found out about Hyperbola and found one he liked more.
I still have a devuan install if needed on a usb, but not my main anymore.
This being said, anyone read that peppermint has a devuan flavor now? Or was this old news?
I saw it when I typed in devuan into the search bar just now. So who knows how old or new it is.
Edit: Tiny one, it started almost 6 months ago, so nvm. lol.
I was about to say, I'm actually involved with their Devuan port. It's going quite well.
Seems like it must be.
How does peppermint compare to linux mint btw?
If I had to guess, yours is probably a massive improvement.
Hi All,
We have now pushed a number of updated packages.
PHP 8.0, 8.1, and 8.2 are now available for ascii, beowulf, and chimaera.
All php modules on our build-list, for example php-imagick have been refreshed to include 8.2 support.
Out of support versions, such as Devuan Jessie and versions before PHP8, are no longer getting updates - but will remain available in the repo.
apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 1CC02413BFF88108 ### PHP Rebuilds for Devuan Ascii deb https://pkgs.tdrnetworks.com/apt/devuan ascii main deb-src https://pkgs.tdrnetworks.com/apt/devuan ascii main ### PHP Rebuilds for Devuan Beowulf deb https://pkgs.tdrnetworks.com/apt/devuan beowulf main deb-src https://pkgs.tdrnetworks.com/apt/devuan beowulf main ### PHP Rebuilds for Devuan Chimaera deb https://pkgs.tdrnetworks.com/apt/devuan chimaera main deb-src https://pkgs.tdrnetworks.com/apt/devuan chimaera mainRegards,
TDR
I didn't know you guys still supported Ascii.
To the best of my knowledge, is it on LTS now?
eyeV wrote:I have full-system encryption applied, so my applications and UI elements run slower than they could
I am interested in whether any personal data can leak out if you encrypted only the home directory during the installation by making it a separate partition
Сonsidering the swap file will be on the home partition and there is no swap partitionSuppose you plug a flash drive into such a system and try to retrieve as much user information as possible.
What information will be retrieved?Is it safe to encrypt only the home directory? - No
I have full-system encryption applied, so my applications and UI elements run slower than they could - it should not be the case. AES encryption is supported by CPU itself so the slowdown should be negligeable.
Suppose you plug a flash drive into such a system and try to retrieve as much user information as possible - your activity including logs, time etc.
More of that if your system is compromised either by inserting flash or by other means the attacker can get luks password.
Actually, this reminds me... I tried installing Devuan on an old AMD Athelon 64 bit processor desktop computer once.
I tried putting doing the encrypted install option of devuan on it, but funny thing happened...
Anytime I tried to do this, it refused to boot when I went to reboot it.
Come to find out, it absolutely cold not handle that part!
I don't encrypt the part before the login screen appears and it worked! But before? NO!
LOL!
It was an HP desktop computer btw. Not sure how their quality was then, but yeah...
Maybe it is something to do with the system and not devuan itself that is the OPs problem.
Aka, the hardware...
Just a thought... and yeah, this was a real experience I had once when I decided to try to change the OS on an old computer my father rarely used anymore, that he said was okay for such a purpose.
Anywho, I hope I made my point clear to any who weren't aware of this possibility.
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Btw, this wasn't even FDE either, it was the standard install method... which made things really odd.
/etc/rc.local is an executable script (or program) that gets exec'd by e.g., the /etc/init.d/rc.local startup script.
/etc/inittab is a configuration file for sysvinit's init program, and it is not a script, but rather a series of service declarations that are interpreted by /sbin/init. When man pages were a thing you would have "man inittab" as way of finding out its syntax.
Hmm.. if I understand then correctly, all I need to do is put it in the hourly folder and set it up like a cron file and it should work, right?
wanting to make a system type one where you add parameters at the end as I said above, I think?
tblock -Syu
zapper wrote:That's actually pretty good zap. I wonder if google will agree to launch their data centers and explode them? I guess that would be one way to close the bug report.
golinux wrote:Haven't you noticed that the forum has been wonderfully "normal" lately? HoaS hasn't logged in since 2023-02-14 . . .
I'm surprised HOAS hasn't re-spun his own distro yet. It's been languishing for the past year, and he talked like he had some ideas for it. Maybe he's busy doing that now, who knows. I always liked him, he would help me do crazy things like rip the init system out of an installation and replace it with something experimental. That's probably old hat for folks around here, but for me that's over my head. Anyway, he's an internet wanderer, leaving an imprint on most Linux-y forums at some point. Kind of like zapper in that way.
I wonder what he would have thought of this prank...
Darn...
Btw, did you laugh at all when you saw that?
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Actually, he probably could do that. Maybe he did what I did when I used to use devuan and found out about Hyperbola and found one he liked more.
I still have a devuan install if needed on a usb, but not my main anymore. ![]()
This being said, anyone read that peppermint has a devuan flavor now? Or was this old news?
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I saw it when I typed in devuan into the search bar just now. So who knows how old or new it is.
Edit: Tiny one, it started almost 6 months ago, so nvm. lol.
I Don't know how you would do this, but my recommendation would be to FDE - /Boot
I know how to do this in other Unixlike OS, one specific one...
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But as for Devuan, never tried to... ever.
Just is the case aka.
/etc/rc.local belongs to initscripts which according to its dependencies are used the same in sysv-rc | file-rc | openrc.
So, no, it's not a sysvinit function.
I suppose there is always the question of which belongs to what, and in particular, which part of the OS belongs to "the init system". When asked, different people answers different things about that. Perhaps the most strict view about sysvinit would be to say that it consists only of the binaries of sysvinit-core and the configuration file /etc/inittab, and then anything below that is "run control", start up code or daemons.
And then perhaps an opposite "init is everything" may also be peddled, as well as any concept granularity in between.
Hmm... the peculiar thing is... I don't have an rc.local.
I have something like this:
a readme is here:
/usr/share/openrc/support/sysvinit/README.md
says the below:
Here's a sample inittab for use with sysvinit for Linux based systems.
We don't install it by default as sysvinit packages normally own this file.
Anywho, isn't there an example of what it is supposed to look like when it is being used?
I suppose I could check other unixlike systems to see what they look like when cron is being used.
zapper wrote:https://github.com/google/recaptcha/issues/519
@andyprough
@head-on-a-stickThoughts?
You will both love it if it remains there long enough.
Haven't you noticed that the forum has been wonderfully "normal" lately? HoaS hasn't logged in since 2023-02-14 . . .
Oh wow, what happened to HoaS?
I was unaware...
Very odd...
https://github.com/google/recaptcha/issues/519
@andyprough
@head-on-a-stick
Thoughts?
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You will both love it if it remains there long enough.
@charliebrownau
sourcehut is only trickier, but it doesn't look that bad. codeberg.org and notabug are also probably options. The others, I agree completely.
As for "modern"
The modern look to put it bluntly, would be best described like this:
Imagine a huge sewer that explodes and the gunk from inside covers an entire neighborhood including your house, that would be modern.
Now imagine that never happened and things looked just fine, that would be decent.
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Modern and Decent very often conflict in today's world.
Has been this way since the mid 2000s, just a heads up. ![]()
I did receive today my first big memory stick with 2 Terra Bytes capacity connected with the USB 3 connector of my laptop (having itself only 3/4 TB memory). The stick includes an unique file named «IndexerVolumeGuid». Gparted recognizes a /dev/sdb1 with 1,81 TB free in a size 1,81 TB. Pre used are only 62,47 MB. BootFlag is set on. The file system is named «exfat» by gparted.
I would like to install my REFRACTA daedalus from the new iso proposed since 20230228 to start directly from that memory.
Does it be possible?
What is the safe method to get an good installation with the possibility of course to use the rest of that big memory.
What is the best way to create new partitions (the same way as usual: gparted > create new table >> create one little partition >>> ev. create a casperss-rw >>>> create one or more new data partitions with or without unetbootin or refracta usb)
Can unetbootin be used?
Funny you should mention that, I got mine a few weeks ago.
Btw, if you have the right permissions, it can be as simple as using via sudo or root, mkfs.ext3 or mkfs.ext4 or mkfs.vfat + whichever drive you want to format with it.
This is arcane method to do so, but it does work.
As for multi-paritioning, cfdisk /dev/sdrive in root would also work too if you want to do it in a less power intensive method.
Dunno if this helps, but this works on most linux systems probably.