@blackhole I think we can agree on one thing in particular, Microsoft is probably not just years, but possibly even a few decades away from making such a change, unless they feel like they have no choice, or they are far enough in their design that they could pull a "google" like move and still make as much as they made before.
I get the feeling you are basically saying that is a huge NO to both of those.

Btw, you can feel free to skip to the very bottom if you get bored, but these are some things I do think in general regarding bloatware, below:

As for the thing about BSD and Unixlike systems being targetted more, that would depend largely on if you use a linux system with a lot of overengineered crap in it, like systemd, dbus, pipewire, wayland, etc... basically stuff that is made to force vendor lock in aka... or if you use something without a lot of that stuff, or if you use a BSD or Linux distro  which avoids adding that crap, etc...

Btw, saying microsoft is actually secure nowadays sounds like a joke to me. Although I suppose microsoft could have you connected to a server the moment your OS boots to protect you from other people's malware... obviously not theirs...

That being said, forced upgrades and no way to turn that function off and also, its stability, constant surveillance, backdoors, etc...

I get if you say they have better security then before and the fact you didn't mention privacy, because that would be completely pointless, but even then, I don't completely agree with your assessment on either of these two things.

if they switched to a BSD or Linux kernel, this would not be bad for all of them, just the ones that adopt the most bloatware,  which would be huge damage to the Linux users, but for people who use OpenBSD, it would probably be just a tiny scratch given their standards on security.

My point being, the sandboxing features of OpenBSD are massive.
Although, even then, avoid the mainstream linux distros that absorb all the corporate bullcrap that redhat convinces people to adopt and you probably still have probably a thousand times better security. Hell, unless you have proprietary nonsense enabled with remote issues, you still would be better off and even if you had to do so, still better off.

This all being said, I don't think any of this is beneficial long term for Linux... unless it forces the majority of distros to change how things are done similar to Hyperbola.

Which, let's face it,  would only happen if actual hell broke loose on most computers using Linux due to the redhat bloat and it could be proven, etc...

to say there is less than 1% of all this, would be laughable... more like less than 0.0001% chance...

To put it simply:

"@zapper: Yes I understand that your arguments were not based purely on one OS being older than the other - just pointing out that commercial  reasons for a new "base" are lacking, in more ways than one."

I agree with you on the commercial reasons part, mostly because they would probably have had some info leaked by now, etc... if this was true.

I had trouble last time I used daedalus too... to be fair.

Though it might be in beta still, it was last time I used it... last I checked.

I actually, just realized something beyond stupid and possibly insane...

As long as I keep "using it" and the folder its being created in, is open, theoretically, it should keep pumping them out... and as long as I don't do what I usually do... aka, use bleachbit, nonstop, etc... to delete thumbnails, etc...

The problem is basically solved...

facepalm.jpeg seems appropriate here... like on an insane scale...

xD

So...  my apologies, its solved.  Btw, I think that was what you just said, right?

The funny thing is, for some unknown reason, a lightbulb went off when I was deleted files via bleachbit-gtk...

the .thumbnails folder... is the solution!

Anyways, thanks for the help... I appreciate it!

The only thing I really need to do which should be easy enough, is to make sure when I exit jwm, I have it set to paste those files elsewhere on shutdown... 

@blackhole

So you don't think they will become the next Google, down the road somewhere?
Btw, I am not doubting BSD, Linux and others being old, my point was not at all that they weren't.

I just thought Microsoft would want to have actual security while still being able to do the BS google or apple does, etc...

To put it bluntly, security without the privacy...

Although, this might be for the better anyhow...

Google is a huge fan of planned obsolescence anyhow... even more the microsoft... all you have to do is see the amount of products Google kills and how long they stay around compared to Microsoft products being killed and you will know what I mean.

This all being said, I don't think its a pipe dream at all.

But also, maybe in the near future it would be useful in some way?

But I doubt Microsoft would do this, without getting enough things into place to where it wouldn't be just as privacy invasive as their old system.

The main difference would be its ability to get malware probably would be much less...

Btw, I don't think Microsoft would base their new OS on linux due to the GPL issues that annoy them.

More than likely they would do what Apple did, only somewhat less restrictive with their specifications, but just as terrible as Google's security.

Long story short?

*If they did do this for some reason, I very much doubt, they would be unprepared to abuse it in a way similar to their old operating system. Thus, it would probably be largely similar and not a useful change for anyone.*

That would be my understanding... but I hope that I am wrong about the majority of these. With the exception of them considering open sourcing like Google, but obviously without any other "Google" changes.

*Rant done... *

If that happens and HyperbolaBSD isn't finished on an alpha level let alone  a  beta level, with the functionality I need most, then I will switch to OpenBSD.

PS, I don't need the same amount of "stuff" people need.

A word processor, web browser, maybe some lightweight emulators, qemu and a lightweight window manager, basically what Hyperbola has now... maybe minus the uxp stuff...

But that being said, I will try to wait as long as I can for now, given my support of them.

Not trying to offend... devuan is nice and all, but wayland is not something I want or need... dbus, I hate you... and redhat's other projects, whether they are made by poettering or someone more nefarious or as bad, etc...

It doesn't matter who it is, init freedom isn't going to be enough at this point.

Btw, Microsoft could go open source to the level I mentioned, but I don't know if they would, etc...

If they did what the other entity did, regarding blocking operating systems other then theirs to the same degree on all x86 hardware or others... I would be completely against said move.

Though they might at some point anyhow.  So its a mixed bag what I think is best.

Yeah... about that... your comment is in fact off topic quite a bit... nothing new for me  tho...

With that out of the way, that host link you had, is beyond outdated if you look up their sources.

Just a heads up...

This one is very good!

Just one small thing though, is there a finite limit?

Also, as a last question, how many files would be a bad idea to have in one folder for someone like me?

As a huge important hint, I should mention:
I have two libreboot X200 computers... one of them is in a very not so good shape, as an unneeded info...
One X230,, which mostly works, beyond a key missing, Dual core i5-3380M
one T430i which has a quad core processor i7-3632QM

I bring this, wondering how many files in a folder would cause me the same problem I have when I read a /etc/hosts type adblock filterlist with 1 million, or one hundred thousand lines on it...

One million takes a bit to load,  on T430...
A lot Longer time on X230 but loadable.
However, if its the X200... forget about it!

xD

Although, beyond this, probably I am good for now.

But do you have any advice?

Waiting on that before I mark solved.

So another words, water is wet, drinking bleach will at best hospitalize you or at worst kill you...

Getting a third degree burn will make most people scream or be in pain for many hours...

Seriously, is anyone surprised that Google keeps having these situations?!?

Trusting Google to not be corrupt is like thinking, if you throw yourself into an active volcano you won't die...

Just DON'T!

Not much else to say there...  btw, all these mainstream media websites and news corporations are evil, whether they are ultra right wing, or right wing, or pseudo left wing...

So... yeah, at this point, I rarely get surprised by their "BS" anymore.

Its a pity that we can't have javascript, java and ideas like them erased from the world and from people's minds and replaced by something that actually is  not completely bloated...

(Rust doesn't count!)

xD

As an update:

LS1028A is better for libre minded users...

any other one, comes with a non-free wifi card built in...

LS1028A, is the best option for either currently to escape blobs from non-free wifi.

Unless the openwifi project nitrokey told me about, ever gets far enough to work in place of other wifi cards and allow routers with openwifi firmware that is libre, etc...

Btw, it is 7 inches now supposedly and surprisingly, it can use 8GB of ram.

I don't think it would be good for say, linux phones, but OpenBSD or devuan, probably.

I usually do this, which looks like it was suggested above...

for i in *.mp3; do ffmpeg -i "$i" "${i%.*}.opus"; done

Btw, this works for changing to others, such as flac, or ogg, etc...

I don't think there are many ways to keep the video format though if this is what you after...

Btw, as a side note, xorg and wayland both have their flaws:

xorg, too big and bloated, but mostly works fine for most things

wayland an unstable mess that has too small of a protocol, but will probably get bloated down the road.

Two things can be true at the same time anyhow.

Both of these aren't very good, especially the replacement, which will likely make it even *harder* to escape systemd, dbus and all that other crap.

The solution?

I still think xenocara is a better move to make in my opinion, it has a lot better privilege separation then xorg and wayland, without being huge, broken and having way too many dependencies that will likely be impossible to remove.

That being said, its usually better not to trust the developer on their word alone, without having a varying of tests, by many people and then see verification.

Although, older hardware, will probably not work as well with it, which will matter to coreboot users and maybe people who disable intel me.

Actually, I used devuan at one point with kernel 5.19 on a coreboot device with intel me disabled the 5.19.89 linux-libre-lts one.

Strangely enough, tried using it on my X230 and T430i,  after 30 minutes on each of them, it just freezes and you have to shut it down by force.

Weird stuff...

Did this with a usb installed image tho, as in it was installed on the usb.

Weird thing is, never had this problem before, till 5.19 kernel.

Point being, not sure what is going on, but be careful!

I think that might be why it works well for conferencing,  because the software using it, intentionally has more support for pipewire...