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zapper wrote:is there a finite limit?
No. Use this construct to start an infinite loop:
while : ; do [stuff] done
https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/0 … colon.html
zapper wrote:how many files would be a bad idea to have in one folder for someone like me?
Infinite files would be a bad idea. Otherwise the image tiles are about 100KiB in size so it depends how big your hard drive is. Many files would only cause a slowdown if you tried to view them all at once, for example in a graphical file manager with thumbnails enabled.
Can you show me an example of theloop you mentioned?
Something akin to, create new wallpaper via starfish per duration with a different name via date, then start over,
Been trying to get it to work, but it gives me the unexpected end issue when I try...
*sigh*
zapper wrote:I bring this, wondering how many files in a folder would cause me the same problem I have when I read a /etc/hosts type adblock filterlist with 1 million, or one hundred thousand lines on it...
One million takes a bit to load, on T430...
A lot Longer time on X230 but loadable.hi, Have you seen a noticable difference with host addblock?
I had been using ...
# This MVPS HOSTS file is a free download from: # # http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm #
but unloaded it about 2 months ago and haven't really noticed a flood of adds. offtopic I know, but... ?
Yeah... about that... your comment is in fact off topic quite a bit... nothing new for me tho...
With that out of the way, that host link you had, is beyond outdated if you look up their sources.
Just a heads up...
@dcolburn @golinux @glennW
Hmm.. not vaporware... no.
They are still working on it... thing is, the alpha iso itself isnt even out yet.
They could use some help lately... hence why I brought this up.
Actually, like the poster before me just said Parabola is an arch-fork.
However, Hyperbola was its own thing, a hard fork of arch linux with debian patches for stability privacy/security and long term support.
That being said, they could use donations and help in general right now, due to the lack of devs and help as a whole...
Luke the uxp developer, has been... away for the time being, related to some management issue that Hyperbola was willing to address, but... problem being, he isn't answering any email messages, so... yeah.
It is a truly unfortunate situation.
The good news, being, they are still trying to do so.
https://wiki.hyperbola.info/doku.php?id=en:manual:contrib:hyperbola_roadmap
They could move faster if they got more help, also... you could potentially make a fork of devuan off of it, for whatever purpose you wanted.
PS, wine no longer interests me... at all.
My reason for wanting a fork, would be to increase devs willing to help... and to get the stable iso finally finished.
That being said, help would be appreciated for them.
#!/bin/sh dir="$HOME/WallpaperZone" count="1" mkdir -p "$dir" while [ $count -lt 11 ] ; do starfish -o "$dir"/Wallpaper"$count" count=$((count+1)) # ah ha ha done
Add set -eo pipefail as the first line (after the shebang) if you want the script to exit after any of the commands fail.
EDIT: that example provides 10 images, change the -lt 11 bit to modify that.
EDIT2: added counting Count reference. I love jokes in the comments.
This one is very good!
Just one small thing though, is there a finite limit?
Also, as a last question, how many files would be a bad idea to have in one folder for someone like me?
As a huge important hint, I should mention:
I have two libreboot X200 computers... one of them is in a very not so good shape, as an unneeded info...
One X230,, which mostly works, beyond a key missing, Dual core i5-3380M
one T430i which has a quad core processor i7-3632QM
I bring this, wondering how many files in a folder would cause me the same problem I have when I read a /etc/hosts type adblock filterlist with 1 million, or one hundred thousand lines on it...
One million takes a bit to load, on T430...
A lot Longer time on X230 but loadable.
However, if its the X200... forget about it!
xD
Although, beyond this, probably I am good for now.
But do you have any advice?
Waiting on that before I mark solved.
Anyone read the news on this RotaJakiro backdoor that was just discovered? It was found in 3 systemd-daemon packages:
https://blog.netlab.360.com/stealth_rot … ckdoor_en/Sounds like it was very secretive, using rotating encryption to avoid detection. Might be the product of some state-sponsored hackery.
Here's a news writeup from TheRegister: https://www.theregister.com/2021/04/29/ … e_spotted/
To be fair, just looking at the draco desktop project's use of dbus in it, a while back... I may have mentioned this before, but G4JC, mentioned to me, that dbus actually fingerprints your hardware ID... even if at the time it didn't upload it, its possible they added that, so that it would be easy to make linux more finger-printable...
I would very much like it, if the majority of developers would wake up and realize, that redhat is no friend to the open source community... let alone the free software or as some call it the libre software community.
This might be further proof that my theory of EEE is dead and has been replaced by something much worse...
Embrace
Extend
Gain Complete Control
This is probably why corporations like Microsoft have mostly given up on trying to outright defeating their opponents...
I think now they decided, since we can't beat them, lets take advantage of them, till we can acquire them.
This all being said, I read below, that you guys seem to think it is not like that because of the systemd developers...
Okay... but honestly, no function like systemd, dbus, wayland, etc... should ever need to keep adding features like it is a rolling release bleeding edge project, constantly...
I think they do things this way, because it gives them plausible deniability that they are trying to take over the Linux ecosystem.
Considering they develop it, that also means, people have to go to them for support which means they can make a lot of money in addition to the above.
I am glad other alternatives exist to this mainstream corporate broken garbage...
Its good that systemd-free distros exist still, but to be fair, I begin to wonder if its getting closer to time, to for not just Hyperbola, but other distros to go down a similar path... even if not on a fully libre level... at some point, I begin to think, that it might be wise for other non-systemd distros, to start ditching so much bloatware.
At least wayland for example, java would also be wise, given its security issues, etc...
Though I doubt getting rid of dbus will ever be on devuan's radar until someone makes a lightweight replacement that can make the original dbus, not needed.
Aka, like OpenWRT's ubus, only with the same support as dbus for everything.
Anywho, just some of my thoughts...
Incidentally, some may not know about this new search engine. It seems to me better than Ducky, YMMV, and when it comes to delivering uncensored news and reports it may even compete with Yandex, though I realise the latter's popularity may have waned somewhat due to current events.
THE FREESPOKE STORY
We exist because the search results you’re looking for shouldn’t be buried on page 6, if they’re allowed to appear at all.
Google, Amazon, and Facebook have too much power over the information we see. We can hardly search, buy a product, or send a message without their influence. Unfortunately, we’re seeing the world as they want us to see it, not the way it actually is.
So another words, water is wet, drinking bleach will at best hospitalize you or at worst kill you...
Getting a third degree burn will make most people scream or be in pain for many hours...
Seriously, is anyone surprised that Google keeps having these situations?!?
Trusting Google to not be corrupt is like thinking, if you throw yourself into an active volcano you won't die...
Just DON'T!
Not much else to say there... btw, all these mainstream media websites and news corporations are evil, whether they are ultra right wing, or right wing, or pseudo left wing...
So... yeah, at this point, I rarely get surprised by their "BS" anymore.
Its a pity that we can't have javascript, java and ideas like them erased from the world and from people's minds and replaced by something that actually is not completely bloated...
(Rust doesn't count!)
xD
I've just fixed a bug in the above script (I had a do missing) and tested it after replacing "starfish -d duration" with "sleep 5". So it might work now.
The above script, works in making multiple directories, but there is one thing:
After I make the directory, I want to output a file, which I seemed to have forgotten, requires the -o
option... after the duration.
After which, I want to make a new wallpaper in said location and when it does, have the command cd used, then repeat, etc...
The folder I want to be the wallpaper one, aka, where it makes new wallpapers:
would be called WallpaperZone or something like that...
So it seems I made some really silly blunders, in my explanation of what I wanted... sorry bout that...
That being said, you got most of this right already.
Although, I wonder if this can be done directly with, making random wallpapers just in the same directory itself...
Aka, having each wallpaper have a different date name.
I wonder...
Anywho, let me know if this is possible...
In these two pictures below it appears the developer of MNT Reform is developing a pocket version of the MNT Reform
Whether it is imx8m I will choose or LS1028A, I have no idea at this point.
As an update:
LS1028A is better for libre minded users...
any other one, comes with a non-free wifi card built in...
LS1028A, is the best option for either currently to escape blobs from non-free wifi.
Unless the openwifi project nitrokey told me about, ever gets far enough to work in place of other wifi cards and allow routers with openwifi firmware that is libre, etc...
Btw, it is 7 inches now supposedly and surprisingly, it can use 8GB of ram.
I don't think it would be good for say, linux phones, but OpenBSD or devuan, probably.
Aka:
when I type starfish -d duration
duration being whatever time I mean, sadly it does the same filename no matter what.
CLI is preferred, but in general, wondered if anyone knows how to do this.
Or for that matter, even doing something akin to, making a random directiory, cding to it, then transmitting the format and then cding and repeating again and again.
Or to put it another way...
mkdir random directory
cd to random directory
then make the wallpaper
cd
repeat
I have a love for the xstarfish wallpapers it creates.
how about this:
find . -type f -name '*.mp4' -exec bash -c 'ffmpeg -i "$0" "${0/%mp4/mp3}"' '{}' \;
i've had this for ages (copied from some gist someplace), still works fine afaik.
I usually do this, which looks like it was suggested above...
for i in *.mp3; do ffmpeg -i "$i" "${i%.*}.opus"; done
Btw, this works for changing to others, such as flac, or ogg, etc...
I don't think there are many ways to keep the video format though if this is what you after...
To be honest, it almost seems to me like, microsoft might be planning to go a very specific route, hint:
A certain search engine giant that everyone says to use to find stuff may very well turn out to be their new model of doing things...
I kid you not, they may very well start making more of their system open source, judging by their Azure practices and other stuff.
It would be both awful and sneaky for them to do.
Frankly, if they haven't yet, I am surprised they haven't.
Not sure if that would be more good or more bad or combination of both compared to that search engine giant's way of doing things that I mentioned above.
Btw, as a side note, xorg and wayland both have their flaws:
xorg, too big and bloated, but mostly works fine for most things
wayland an unstable mess that has too small of a protocol, but will probably get bloated down the road.
Two things can be true at the same time anyhow.
Both of these aren't very good, especially the replacement, which will likely make it even *harder* to escape systemd, dbus and all that other crap.
The solution?
I still think xenocara is a better move to make in my opinion, it has a lot better privilege separation then xorg and wayland, without being huge, broken and having way too many dependencies that will likely be impossible to remove.
That being said, its usually better not to trust the developer on their word alone, without having a varying of tests, by many people and then see verification.
Although, older hardware, will probably not work as well with it, which will matter to coreboot users and maybe people who disable intel me.
Actually, I used devuan at one point with kernel 5.19 on a coreboot device with intel me disabled the 5.19.89 linux-libre-lts one.
Strangely enough, tried using it on my X230 and T430i, after 30 minutes on each of them, it just freezes and you have to shut it down by force.
Weird stuff...
Did this with a usb installed image tho, as in it was installed on the usb.
Weird thing is, never had this problem before, till 5.19 kernel.
Point being, not sure what is going on, but be careful!
the impaired ISOs, I think last I checked, were deprecated, due to a varying bunch of reasons:
Under a lot of stress
Maintaining the GNU version, till the first stable is out, possibly longer, so they are maintaining two different forms of infrastructure for two operating systems
I think the impaired ISO might also have some bad dependencies? I forget...
They are not against anyone willing to help develop tho, but time is also a factor.
Most development is being used to focus on HyperbolaBSD.
Small team
etc...
EDIT:
And those focused on the 0.4.2 Hyperbola GNU version, are already occupied alot.
But if you want to add the impaired support, I am sure they would accept help.
Unless, someone fixed it already. Not sure tho
I think that might be why it works well for conferencing, because the software using it, intentionally has more support for pipewire...
Actually, I think wayland is the sytemd of display protocols...
I should have said this before...
But yeah, I agree with that comment that the devo that blog made.
Unless corporations want their systems to get fried by every malevolent hacker under the sun...
Given the buggy nature, just overloading the system should be enough to crash it...
I highly doubt malevolent hackers couldn't break that.
I guess whoever made wayland can congratulate itself on making something as bad as systemd in stability...
meh...
Small updatre on this, wondering,
what hardware parts are absolutely needed, for rockpro64 to work
Anyone have an answer?
Thanks in advance and also, sorry to have revive this thread, been occupied like a lot...
I didn't suspect this, to be honest...
I knew redhat was trying to
Embrace
Extend
Take Full Control
I just didn't know that Lennart had sunk that low from a while back...
Man is that just plain...
cold, even for him...
That being said, it is also possible, that redhat didn't give a damn if he did.
Given their ways of messing with the distro ecosystem as a whole.
Whether you consider it GNU/Linux or Linux...
So... yeah, this doesn't surprise me, at all.
EDIT: well, except the part about him working for microsoft since a while ago.
Surprised he didn't work for google instead, to be honest...
xD
czeekaj wrote:I see there is a iceweasel package. I opted to use that.
Although i see no real change between firefox-esr. It's still in the repo so I use it instead.That's because the current iceweasel is a transitional package which loads the firefox-esr deb as a 'required dependency'.
Or in other words: Iceweasel *is* Firefox-ESR
Sigh. See e.g. https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/pack … -1~deb10u1
Huh, I thought most debian AND devuan users knew this
Meh, w/e lol.
Seems palemoon finally got back on track...
Someone who was a part of the team was forced out of it due to them going bonkers...
A "core dev" left...
This had happened a few months prior, but I never saw reason to mention about this here...
As good as badwolf is, it still needs ublock origin like functionality or better.
And something even more effective then both versions of noscript combined, before I could use it again.
Then I will probably do so again...
Especially if bookmarks are added.
Till then, I will do what I think works best.
@Headonastick
>No bluetooth support
>No MALI needed
Sounds good, now if only the distro world could drop bluetooth and other insecurity crap and stuff with the "trademark redhat bloatware seal of approval"
Probably not happening for a while, but maybe if other alternatives crop up, that are better, it won't matter.
(Including Devuan)
Anywho, peace!
"Lots. OpenBSD's install71.iso will happily run in QEMU with only 128MiB of RAM. Devuan's chimaera netinstall ISO image won't even start with so little memory available.
OpenBSD is the absolute best choice for a router IMO. Accept no substitute. And don't install any ports. Base system ftw!
EDIT: and arm64 is particularly good because the OpenBSD developers have managed to remove almost all ROP gadgets:
https://www.openbsd.org/papers/asiabsdcon2019-rop-paper.pdf"
Response to @headonastick
I had a feeling bloatware in linux even on a minimal system would be bad on most arm64 supported distros...
Btw,
>Optional 802.11ac with Bluetooth 5.0 expansion module
I don't like bluetooth, for some obvious reasons, insecurity and its supposedly hazardous in other ways...
Does OpenBSD disable it by default? Also, I thought 802.11ac requires an insecurity blob to use...
Or has OpenBSD figured out a way to reverse engineer it to where it is harmless/works without any non-free blobs. In this case, I mean a freedom sense as a whole.
Oh and btw:
Is a wifi card needed in an OpenBSD router, I think it does probably right? I know this might sound very stupid to ask though.
I assume the MALI isn't needed for a router?
And, how do I connect to the device, to make wifi zones and then of course, connect other devices to them.
Btw, I assume you don't connect this to a modem directly right?
I think that sums up my other questions...
there are two thoughts, however:
wondering if its possible to do something similar to this on a pinebook single board device:
https://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/example1.html
The general principle, is very much the same, using it for a router aka.
I might consider doing it a different way, aka, using actual OpenBSD, except, I don't know the level of support for open source drivers/firmware to know, if there are non-free drivers required for ARM64 boards such as ROCK64, ROCK64Pro, etc...
Thus, I will also ask, how much, bloatware does Devuan use in the situation of a router by default?
This is kind of a mixed question, regarding the topic, but yeah...
Point being. librecmc is becoming tiresome and openwrt and others, don't feel right to me.
Hope this helps you all understand what I am seeking info on.
Thank you.
Didn't work much last I checked, but thankfully, seems the whole UXP situation has been fixed, so I don't need abrowser anymore...
Thank God...
Seems a problem was lifted recently...
The amount of shilling for Wayland is preposterous, particularly by those who use distros without Systemd. I also think that D-Bus, Polkit (formerly PolicyKit), GVfs, Avahi, and PulseAudio being forced onto essential packages is every bit as bad. I remove what I can before ending up with a broken, unusable system (especially in D-Bus' case). Even things like Elogind are not what I desire, but it is what it is.
I can't speak for everyone, but I dislike the following;
dbus
systemd
pulseaudio
avahi
networkmanager
logind
polkit
pipewire
wayland
java
rust
pam
bloatware in general...
Hence why I usually don't use devuan and instead use Hyperbola which finally removed all this crud,
Actually, xorg and wayland while both being bad, have an alternative, its called xenocara.
The only problem being, the linux devs seem to be shrooming more and more with their designs.
I think microsoft, apple, google, etc are all indeed disasters and have evil intentions, but...
I honestly think redhat has changed the game even more...
I think its no longer EEE as a plan,
I think it is now, EETFC
Embrace
Extend
Take Full Control
I wouldn't be surprised if that is redhat's plan at this juncture... even more so with IBM being in the mix, aka owning redhat now...
Btw, if I recall correctly, xenocara already does a few things wayland does, regarding being a rootless xorg and in the case of OpenBSD, privledge separation..
I don't really get why people shill for anything redhat makes in general though.
There are alternatives that don't force crap down people's throats, ya know?
Besides, gnome3 and its forks are bloated beyond words, in fact the only desktop environment not bloated its lumina desktop.
But as always, I will use jwm, till I feel like there is something lighter that has the same feature set.
Seems you've forgotten this is a GNUinOS - Libre thread not a Trisquel thread.
Yeah, sorry bout that, I was making mention of this, because I wondered if I could put Abrowser on Devuan/Gnuinos
But that probably is not relevant enough due to the amount of odd stuff on this thread... my bad...
I think that zapper and andyprough should create their own forum where they can try to outdo each other's nonsense. Please stop wasting Devuan resources on irrelevant babble.
Actually, my point about minifree having a paypal hate page once, was to point out that paypal is a really bad corporation and that's why they require a phone number if I had to guess.
Here is a thought as to why:
https://news.slashdot.org/story/22/01/1 … -and-funds
No idea why you choose to criticize my nonsense on this thread, this is actually on topic.
My point is, that they are an unethicial company and unethical companies like to have people's phone numbers.
But okay, I will go for now...