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#476 Re: News & Announcements » New version of sudo in Rust » 2023-09-25 00:52:25

Altoid wrote:

Hello:

Came across this today.

Thomas Claburn@The Register wrote:

The sudo command-line tool has been implemented in the Rust programming language
to hopefully rid it of any exploitable memory-safety bugs.
Prossimo, a project overseen by the non-profit Internet Security Research Group (ISRG),
announced the first stable release of sudo-rs this week. That open source codebase
includes the related su command-line program, again in Rust.

https://github.com/memorysafety/sudo-rs

Best,

A.

Great... more people trying to rustify things that don't need it. (which is 100% of all of it)

The best way to think of rust, is its training wheels for programmers.

If you are a patient and someone says they are a butcher, would you want them to be your doctor?

If programmers use training wheels programming languages, like java, rust, javascript, the web gets screwed up more and more.

Javascript supposedly doesn't require much talent to learn... and then some people wonder why the web is so bloated and insecure...

The irony is so thick you could cut it with a knife... 

I would love it if all these imbeciles would stop presuming that rust is a free programming language. It is not, it has trademark restrictions all throughout if you even so much as modify it without their permission.

I dislike people who presume in situations like this alot.

If people don't know how to program in C, effectively, then they shouldn't be coding anywhere where security is a concern. Unless you can use non-idiotproof programming languages.  Java, javsascript and rust are heavily bloated as are a few others. I only recently learned that php is another programming language with similar problems to rust and java.  Apparently php devs dropped the gpl license option and left the bad license intact as the only option.

Rant = Complete

#477 Re: Devuan » Search ranking on Distowatch » 2023-09-19 16:40:20

Distrowatch has a listing of categories of distros and it lists most of the distros.

The reviews and rankings are pretty darn useless but it does have a list of info at least.

#478 Re: Devuan » They say systemd makes packaging easier, better of the two evils? » 2023-09-18 16:33:14

chris2be8 wrote:
zapper wrote:

Btw, if systemd theoretically was the lesser of two evils, what the hell has this world become!

Presumably the only other choice would be Windows.

That both makes sense and sounds awful.

#479 Re: Devuan » They say systemd makes packaging easier, better of the two evils? » 2023-09-18 16:32:24

chris2be8 wrote:
zapper wrote:

Btw, if systemd theoretically was the lesser of two evils, what the hell has this world become!

Presumably the only other choice would be Windows.

That both makes sense and is a pathetic situation.

>.>
<.<

#480 Re: Devuan » They say systemd makes packaging easier, better of the two evils? » 2023-09-17 23:23:28

Btw, if systemd theoretically was the lesser of two evils, what the hell has this world become!

O.o

That sounds like a nightmare.

Imagine how much more bloated the other alternative would be.

xD

#481 Re: Off-topic » Google in trouble again » 2023-09-17 23:18:39

Saacmatchin, one can only hope someone will pin them to the ground for a long time for their bs.

such as the "crimeflare network" they have...

https://notabug.org/dCF/deCloudflare

#crimeflare is one of the hashtags on that notabug.org page.

Its beyond appropriate that whoever made that notabug page, calls it crimeflare lol.

big_smile

But yeah, google needs someone to cut their lucrative business by 10x at least. Big corporations hate competition. FACT!

So... yeah.

#482 Re: DIY » Question, about dd and/or qemu, for disk cloning » 2023-09-16 04:46:52

alphalpha wrote:

you can copy the whole disc and then shrink the qcow

I have tried that, but for some reason, errors occurred for me and so I gave it up.

Maybe I am missing something?

#483 Re: DIY » Question, about dd and/or qemu, for disk cloning » 2023-09-15 22:48:10

boughtonp wrote:

Yeah, like if you had this situation:

$ df -h
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1        50G   20G   30G  40% /
/dev/sda2       450G   80G  270G  18% /home

You'd want a single 100GB sparse file, which still retains the 500GB capacity.

Correct, but actually, I may have changed my mind slightly, is there any easy solution in devuan included in doing this? Even that might be helpful. Preferably one that isn't mega slow.

2 hours is fine, anything longer would be painful.

500GB disk btw.

#484 Re: DIY » Question, about dd and/or qemu, for disk cloning » 2023-09-15 22:45:17

so zerofree would work for what I want? Is that correct?

I guess I should try this then?

#485 Re: Off-topic » Music » 2023-09-13 19:48:49

https://inv.makerlab.tech/watch?v=e7Sg_jDB-EE
https://inv.makerlab.tech/watch?v=TYhuJIuYUN4
https://inv.makerlab.tech/watch?v=TcvEDx78lyM
https://inv.makerlab.tech/watch?v=RWU_MU57qlc
https://inv.makerlab.tech/watch?v=nlkkG80hGdk

These are my jam

big_smile

Especially when I want to feel inspired.

For sleeping, not all of the soundtracks, but 75% of them

https://inv.makerlab.tech/watch?v=TimQ7ONtawQ

Same purpose, sleep:

https://inv.makerlab.tech/watch?v=OyHqGSO67wo

Some of the foreboding creepy ones that don't change tempo/volume very often fit this bill. Like sign of evil or the demon is dead.

xD

Btw, those links are also on youtube. that's just a frontend of youtube. Just a heads up also:

everything after https:// and before /watch can be changed to whatever frontend you prefer, even if that be youtube for that matter.

#486 Re: Devuan Derivatives » JWM KIT love fest » 2023-09-13 19:40:14

Still a very good window manager. I just would like to say thank you for making it 10x better than it already was. I may have said this before, but I felt the need to thank you again.

You also have done some interesting changes on my behalf which pleased me even more. big_smile

#487 Re: DIY » Question, about dd and/or qemu, for disk cloning » 2023-09-13 19:29:13

boughtonp wrote:
zapper wrote:

Anyone know how to copy an entire hard drive onto a qcow2 image but with only the space being used as being counted?

No, but I have spent a significant amount of time trying various solutions that didn't work, before eventually giving up and converting each partition to its own file, with qemu-image convert.

Hmm... that method you mentioned didn't work for me, for some reason.

You know what I mean though, right?

Like say 200GB is used but 450 is available on hdd.

I want only the 200GB to be counted but expansion be possible at the same time.

I am guessing you understand what I am saying, but felt I should clarify anyways. Especially for other people.

I might add to the first post...

#488 Re: DIY » Question, about dd and/or qemu, for disk cloning » 2023-09-13 05:30:00

delgado wrote:

https://unix.stackexchange.com/question … -browse-re

shows some examples using e2image, also for a qcow2- image. Not sure whether this works for your case too.

Sadly no, but I did find something on that page, that might work.

I will just have to see though...

#489 DIY » Question, about dd and/or qemu, for disk cloning » 2023-09-12 18:51:15

zapper
Replies: 15

Anyone know how to copy an entire hard drive onto a qcow2 image but with only the space being used as being counted? This would truly be helpful to know.

Would save me a lot of irritations lol.

I need it to be done this way btw, other solutions likely would be more messy or have too many dependencies that can't be supported. This has to work for both Hyperbola and Devuan.

Like if an image has 500GB of space as the maximum being possible to use but since only 100 is used, only 100 is stored on the disk.

qemu-img create -f qcow2 your-img 500GB does something similar more or less. wink

Edit: Well as far as creating the image and then you install, etc...

But I have files I want to keep on current drive... so... yeah.

Forget what I wrote there, I have a better explanation:


Like say  200GB is used on hdd, but 450 is available on hdd.

I want only the 200GB to be counted but expansion be possible at the same time.

That is what I actually desire in a qemu or dd solution.

I want to be able to do either this way.

I tried a qemu method, but it was already at 9GB and had only completed 2% of the job.

This was what I did:
qemu-img convert -c -O qcow2 /dev/sdXn backup.qcow2

It would have copied the whole disk including the unused space. :S

#490 Re: Devuan » They say systemd makes packaging easier, better of the two evils? » 2023-08-30 21:45:12

swanson wrote:

My turning point with Systemd was when it slowed down my surfing by taking over the resolver. Systemd created a lag and it was unacceptable to me. I already knew about its history and Poettering, so since then I've been waiting to transition completely to Devuan.

For me, it was more of a suspicion coupled with reasoning.

I heard about the debian/devuan situation announcement early in its fork around the time I was using trisquel gnu/linux.

I heard that archlinux around that time and fedora previously had tried and failed in this endeavor. Although I know now that archlinux, has a variant known as obarun so... not so much like I thought.

But I looked into arguments on the against systemd side because I wondered what reasoning they had.

Half a year or so passed and I decided to check into a few things. Sure enough, systemd was a huge package.

Around that time I thought to myself, the more amount of code, the more complex it is, it must also be harder to find the bugs.

Even if you have a million people working at it, 1 million lines of code, must be a mess to debug.

Having  four to eight thousand lines of code however, or similar like openrc, or others which have less, probably takes less people to find those problems.

If this is the case, why bother with an over-engineered concept when a simpler concept would take way less debugging and have a lot less problems?

Also, I scoured a bunch of the systemd bugs from certain websites like nosystemd and without-systemd, etc...

when it boiled down to it, I realized the unix philosophy was by far superior.

And the question became, what drugs made people think it was a good idea to bloat an otherwise good idea?

Then it came to me as time passed:

Greed and power

Both of which are completely unreasonable reasons to do this.

Besides, its only short term profit that will later come back to bite everyone and arguably as I said elsewhere, the planet itself.

PS, for those who don't believe in climate change, you don't have to believe it. It can still do damage whether you know it is happening or not.

Feelings do not equal facts.

wink

#491 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2023-08-30 10:57:30

Sounds wise aitor, yeah... I am not on the DNG mailing list, so I would't know.

#492 Re: Devuan » They say systemd makes packaging easier, better of the two evils? » 2023-08-30 10:54:50

If the people who develop arch say that, they have rocks in their heads or are lying.

wink

#493 Re: Devuan » They say systemd makes packaging easier, better of the two evils? » 2023-08-30 10:53:32

golinux wrote:

How low have we fallen to be discussing a reddit thread here . . . seriously . . . worst place ever for accurate information . . .

Nah, we could still fall lower, we could be discussing, tik tok videos, or stuff from discord. big_smile

#494 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2023-08-30 10:52:06

Why did the coach find two quarterbacks in one day?

Because someone cut 50 cent in half!

tongue

Gory, but clever I thought?

#495 Re: Devuan » Why I choose Devuan? nosystemd » 2023-08-27 17:28:24

systemd is more than just a black hole, it also is a huge barrier at the same time against progress.

#496 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2023-08-27 17:26:18

Here's an old one tongue

Why would anyone have  ever used debian jessie I mean, would upgrading have made a difference? What would that be, but a stretch!

big_smile

Old and irrelevant, but still amusing to me. xD

#497 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2023-08-27 17:22:15

soren wrote:
zapper wrote:

Joke:

Why did some people think devuan was going to die?

Necause the name of its latest stable release!

tongue

I see what you did there, lol wink

big_smile

#498 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2023-08-27 02:56:15

Joke:

Why did some people think devuan was going to die?

Because the name of its latest stable release!

tongue

#499 Re: Other Issues » [SOLVED] youtube-dl upgrade problem » 2023-08-27 02:55:12

alexkemp wrote:
alexkemp wrote:

Use "yt-dlp". Seems old (March) but is actually upto date & works fine.

I've got to amend my own advice.

The Repository version of yt-dlp is still stuck at March & I found recently that YT has managed to throw another spanner into it's works, stopping it from downloading. I placed the GitHub linux version into .local/bin & it throws up errors but does get the job done:

$ /usr/bin/yt-dlp --version
2023.03.04
$ ~/.local/bin/yt-dlp --version
2023.07.06

Only two other options come to mind, use different distro, compile from source

By different distro, I mean one that is compatible with AUR.

big_smile

Artix, Obarun, something?

I doubt anyone in their right mind would pick a systemdumb arch derivative though.

#500 Re: Off-topic » The Joke Thread » 2023-08-27 02:50:45

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

Thank Vikings for this!

xD

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