Sadly no, but I did find something on that page, that might work.

I will just have to see though...

For me, it was more of a suspicion coupled with reasoning.

I heard about the debian/devuan situation announcement early in its fork around the time I was using trisquel gnu/linux.

I heard that archlinux around that time and fedora previously had tried and failed in this endeavor. Although I know now that archlinux, has a variant known as obarun so... not so much like I thought.

But I looked into arguments on the against systemd side because I wondered what reasoning they had.

Half a year or so passed and I decided to check into a few things. Sure enough, systemd was a huge package.

Around that time I thought to myself, the more amount of code, the more complex it is, it must also be harder to find the bugs.

Even if you have a million people working at it, 1 million lines of code, must be a mess to debug.

Having  four to eight thousand lines of code however, or similar like openrc, or others which have less, probably takes less people to find those problems.

If this is the case, why bother with an over-engineered concept when a simpler concept would take way less debugging and have a lot less problems?

Also, I scoured a bunch of the systemd bugs from certain websites like nosystemd and without-systemd, etc...

when it boiled down to it, I realized the unix philosophy was by far superior.

And the question became, what drugs made people think it was a good idea to bloat an otherwise good idea?

Then it came to me as time passed:

Greed and power

Both of which are completely unreasonable reasons to do this.

Besides, its only short term profit that will later come back to bite everyone and arguably as I said elsewhere, the planet itself.

PS, for those who don't believe in climate change, you don't have to believe it. It can still do damage whether you know it is happening or not.

Feelings do not equal facts.

If the people who develop arch say that, they have rocks in their heads or are lying.

Why did the coach find two quarterbacks in one day?

Because someone cut 50 cent in half!

Gory, but clever I thought?

Here's an old one

Why would anyone have  ever used debian jessie I mean, would upgrading have made a difference? What would that be, but a stretch!

Old and irrelevant, but still amusing to me. xD

Joke:

Why did some people think devuan was going to die?

Because the name of its latest stable release!

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

Thank Vikings for this!

xD

Last I checked, isn't he married... I recall seeing his youtube page once something about 26 years or something?

So that does seem ironic.

Although, I suppose different people have different ideas of what getting a life is.

XFCE isn't the stone age and to me, its still too modern.

If you want something that is over the top on an unreasonable level aka, looking like windows 11,

kde's current or cinnamon fit that bill.

Makes me feel sick inside knowing people like those bloated desktops, but not my choice.

meh...

Don't doubt something was a problem.

Funny thing, libc was the problem I had.

I have a feeling that libc was related to glibc.

So... yeah lol right on target.

I have done what I mentioned at the top  before I knew what VMs where and after and until I learned how to use qemu properly.

I been working with linux for at least 8 years, on and off from before 2016 and after till I decided to completely jump the shark for good towards linux.

Windows 8.1 tripled my ram and that was why I became suspicious of windows and then chats with people who know stuff about windows, etc, etc...

Someone at a meeting asked if there was a backdoor in windows and everyone was silent.

This person told me this, on and on... won't bore you any further.

Point being, lots of screws up have occurred due to my recklessness.

Pity I didn't learn how to use VMs before I decided to distrohop. This would have saved me 5+ years of agonizing irritation.

Lack of knowledge? Ignorance? Lack of Critical thought?

These 3 are all possibilities.
I have never even seen debian or devuan say this LOL.

Although, its probable I just didn't do enough research.

But as an obvious, only two things make it okay although still largely a waste of time anyhow:

1: Its a VM

2: You have more than one copy of that same VM

That's all I can think of.

golinux by popcorn do you mean, it is going to be a mess for any regulation to get done of value?

If so, yeah probably...