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golinux wrote:
And desktop users are NOT our target audience
This statement has me baffled. Do you mean desktop as in Desktop Environment, or as in desktop versus laptop?
golinux wrote:
@siva . . . You'd think a quick search would be the first thing to do. But is sooo much easier to let someone else do it.
If you go back, you'd see that I did say I'd research it when I have the time. You know, I have a full time job, and a wife and kid that takes quite a bit of my time. I don't live on the computer. I really don't know what I said to warrant such passive aggression. And who was whining? That crack was unwarranted.
I am still "fairly" new to Linux. And I'm just a computer user, not a geek (I don't mean that pejoratively). When I have time I'll research it, I guess.
I agree with spartrekus that pulseaudio is crap. I avoid anything made by its author.
I have something on my computer made by Lennart Poettering?
I avoid anything that guy makes.
Can I get more info on how to disable this crap? I have no idea what rcconf is.
When I first tried Devuan, I had no idea which installation option I should use. So it was confusing for me. And the one I did download didn't work. Maybe I downloaded the wrong one? Thankfully the Miyo installation file worked. I can appreciate where esr is coming from on this issue, and most of the other things he has said. If he can start his own derivative of Devuan, I'd help any way I could (which would probably be limited to be a beta tester).
I took what he wrote to mean that he tried to install Devuan over top of Mint. Any other way wouldn't be possible, right? It seems he is knowledgeable enough to know that.
So if you have never done a Debian install, your frustration it seems is not really based on any facts is it, or am i missing something here?
He has tried a Devuan install:
The first, my wife's home-office machine, is "minx", an Intel NUC running Mint 19 - I've tried to Devuanize that and failed.
Hi Vargr, I've come over to Devaun from Mint also. It really isn't that hard. If you have questions, just post them here. This is a friendly forum. ![]()
Did you download the app via Synaptic? That might be the problem as the repo version is too old to work with youtube videos. I download the app straight from their website (using wget) which gives you the current version:
Should we consider this as good news or bad news? Or neutral news?
I totally deleted the line, "sleep 0.5" and the line itself. That was the right way to do it, right? It seems to have made the delay a (very) tad bit shorter.
Thanks GNUser. ![]()
Thanks dzz. ![]()
Thanks GNUser, sudo chmod a+x /usr/local/bin/atril did the trick. There's just one little annoyance . . . when I open Atril (and AbiWord), it first opens unmaximized for a split second, before going maximized. But I can live with that (I'm guessing there's nothing that can be done about that).
@GNUser, it isn't working for me. When I open Atril (from the desktop icon) it still doesn't open maximized.
Thanks golinux. I'm using Mate. The "Save Current Settings as Default" option didn't help. Any other ideas?
Interesting article. How do you disable IPv6? Is disabling it a bad idea?
There are two apps, specifically AbiWord and Atril, that don't open in a maximized window. What can I do to get them to always open maximized? I did a search but came up empty. And, closing them while maximized will not make them open next time maxed.
I guess none of you are on the Devuan mail lists or IRC. Perhaps this is a wakeup call to get more involved . . . . Devuan is not going anywhere. Someone from Debian did reach out to us and Devuan devs are now cooperating and contributing to ensure sysvinit functionality in Debian. Devuan devs are also working actively on runit and openrc.
Glad to hear this. I had been worried reading this thread, until I saw the above quoted post.
Thanks for your work!
Sorry. It's on ASCII (Miyo) with Mate. If you want anything else, please let me know.
Yes. I found out about it yesterday on a different forum.
I just noticed this today. I'm not sure if the last update caused this, or a previous one. When on the desktop, left click and hold, and drag the mouse. Before, it would dim the dragged area, but you could still see what was in it. Now, it puts a white area where you drag and you can't see anything behind it. I know I probably didn't explain this well, so here's a screenshot. Anyone else noticing this? It's not a big deal but I thought it should be reported.

I think the best way for me to go is to do a dual boot, and use Miyo since I already do the same thing with it for Mate.
BTW, does anyone know if ExeGNU's creator is a member of the forum?
Thanks for sharing MiyoLinux. I don't think I'm that brave though. It's times like this I wish I had a spare computer to experiment on.