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And this is my 2nd shot at it
Here is my simple 1st shot at it
https://pasteboard.co/GFcpkkL.png
Is it possible you have auto-updates/unattended-updates turned on? If you do there is nothing
for you to ever upgrade. I've only larked around jessie for the amount of time it takes to switch
repositories, update/upgrade and go upstream.
Jessie was stable for debian last month, so we are a few weeks behind. Big deal, try Arch if you
don't worry about security bugs popping up all the time about what you have been running for
months if not years.
If you chose an off distribution package that does not bring any dependencies on of its own or even
worse replacing some of the existing ones, at worse case scenario it may not work. If you mix
match dependencies then you are on your own and things may get irreversibly messed up.
Then there is the case of someone jumping up to testing or unstable, don't like how things work and
reverses back to stable and expects updates. They may not come for months or even years unless
they are a security patch that affects everyone.
Replacing common dependency packages with something newer will have the same ill effects on the
rest of the system whether you jail the package or not.
Slim had the same exact behavior, pulling usb plugs off and on fixes the problem, only slim will only allow access to root account, user logins restart slim.
Which is the reason I gor rid of it to begin with. No difference means it is not a lightdm related issue, it may be an X11 issue, or something deeper.
I am getting tired and giving up for today because I have done no other work other than troubleshooting today.
Noted: My other devuan installation that started as miyo linux and it is on ascii level does not have this problem, it is only the original Devuan installation on ceres.
I am waiting for any good guess work
PS My linux12 kernel is unrelated as well as the stock linux11 that came with ceres has the same exact behavior.
One of the hacking fixes I thought may be reversible is to install a second dm, and since slim is commonly used in devuan I tried it.
Although slim depends on a library for drawing and alterin png images (it sounds insignificant) specifically libpng12 (or 1.2), while
a graphics library called libpng16 exists. Apt will not install slim without libpng12. LibPng12 only exists in Jessie, nowhere else.
So I picked up 12 from Jessie and installed slim.
$ sudo update-initramfs -k all -u
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.12.0-trunk-amd64
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_huc_ver02_00_1810.bin for module i915
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/bxt_huc_ver01_07_1398.bin for module i915
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/skl_huc_ver01_07_1398.bin for module i915
live-boot: core filesystems devices utils udev wget blockdev dns.
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.11.0-2-amd64
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/kbl_huc_ver02_00_1810.bin for module i915
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/bxt_huc_ver01_07_1398.bin for module i915
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/skl_huc_ver01_07_1398.bin for module i915
live-boot: core filesystems devices utils udev wget blockdev dns.
update:
I romeved a couple of lock files from /tmp but that didn't change anything. On my last frozen session I noticed that the cursor was blinking in the lightdm login screen where user would go. The mouse cursor would freeze right on the password box. So without seeing anythin on screen on a next attempt I entered the user name, hit TAB which takes you to the next box, entered the passw and hit enter. The cursor on the login screen stopped blinking.
Wild remote chance for something to still work, I pulled both usb plugs for keyboard and mouse, then plugged them back in.
Guess what? It is all working again, I am writing this message from the ceres installation. So now I know what to start looking for.
I wouldn't say [SOLVED] yet!
This is a lightdm log
[+0.35s] DEBUG: Adding default seat
[+0.35s] DEBUG: Seat seat0: Loading properties from config section Seat:*
[+0.35s] DEBUG: Seat seat0: Starting
[+0.35s] DEBUG: Seat seat0: Creating greeter session
[+0.38s] DEBUG: Seat seat0: Creating display server of type x
[+0.38s] DEBUG: Could not run plymouth --ping: Failed to execute child process “plymouth” (No such file or directory)
[+0.38s] DEBUG: Using VT 7
[+0.38s] DEBUG: Seat seat0: Starting local X display on VT 7
[+0.38s] DEBUG: DisplayServer x-0: Logging to /var/log/lightdm/x-0.log
[+0.38s] DEBUG: DisplayServer x-0: Writing X server authority to /var/run/lightdm/root/:0
[+0.38s] DEBUG: DisplayServer x-0: Launching X Server
[+0.38s] DEBUG: Launching process 2060: /usr/bin/X :0 -seat seat0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch
[+0.38s] DEBUG: DisplayServer x-0: Waiting for ready signal from X server :0
[+0.38s] DEBUG: Acquired bus name org.freedesktop.DisplayManager
[+0.38s] DEBUG: Registering seat with bus path /org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Seat0
[+0.38s] WARNING: Error getting user list from org.freedesktop.Accounts: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.Accounts was not provided by any .service files
[+0.38s] DEBUG: Loading user config from /etc/lightdm/users.conf
[+0.54s] DEBUG: User deb1 added
[+0.54s] DEBUG: User dev1 added
[+2.47s] DEBUG: Got signal 10 from process 2060
[+2.47s] DEBUG: DisplayServer x-0: Got signal from X server :0
[+2.47s] DEBUG: DisplayServer x-0: Connecting to XServer :0
[+2.47s] DEBUG: Seat seat0: Display server ready, starting session authentication
[+2.47s] DEBUG: Session pid=2133: Started with service 'lightdm-greeter', username 'lightdm'
[+2.57s] DEBUG: Session pid=2133: Authentication complete with return value 0: Success
[+2.57s] DEBUG: Seat seat0: Session authenticated, running command
[+2.57s] DEBUG: Session pid=2133: Running command /usr/sbin/lightdm-gtk-greeter
[+2.57s] DEBUG: Creating shared data directory /var/lib/lightdm/data/lightdm
[+2.57s] DEBUG: Session pid=2133: Logging to /var/log/lightdm/seat0-greeter.log
[+2.94s] DEBUG: Activating VT 7
[+2.94s] DEBUG: Activating ConsoleKit session a3881ebb8a2b5e390fcc5a5659722936-1502443899.691284-2004700786
[+2.94s] WARNING: Error activating ConsoleKit session: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.GLib.UnmappedError.CkVtMonitorError.Code0: Session is already active
[+5.56s] DEBUG: Greeter connected version=1.18.3 resettable=false
[+6.55s] DEBUG: Greeter start authentication
[+6.55s] DEBUG: Session pid=2256: Started with service 'lightdm', username '(null)'
[+6.64s] DEBUG: Session pid=2256: Got 1 message(s) from PAM
[+6.64s] DEBUG: Prompt greeter with 1 message(s)
Here is a piece of the X0rg.log and a piece of the apt history.log
[ 234.942] (EE) dbus-core: error connecting to system bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound (Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory)
[ 244.942] (EE) dbus-core: error connecting to system bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound (Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory)
[ 254.946] (EE) dbus-core: error connecting to system bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound (Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory)
[ 264.957] (EE) dbus-core: error connecting to system bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound (Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory)
[ 274.962] (EE) dbus-core: error connecting to system bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound (Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory)
Start-Date: 2017-08-10 18:19:09
Commandline: /usr/sbin/synaptic
Requested-By: deb1 (1000)
Install: libevent-2.1-6:amd64 (2.1.8-stable-4, automatic)
Upgrade: libavformat57:amd64 (7:3.3.3-1, 7:3.3.3-2), libavfilter6:amd64 (7:3.3.3-1, 7:3.3.3-2), ffmpeg:amd64 (7:3.3.3-1, 7:3.3.3-2), libswresample2:amd64 (7:3.3.3-1, 7:3.3.3-2), libpostproc54:amd64 (7:3.3.3-1, 7:3.3.3-2), libavcodec57:amd64 (7:3.3.3-1, 7:3.3.3-2), libavutil55:amd64 (7:3.3.3-1, 7:3.3.3-2), libavdevice57:amd64 (7:3.3.3-1, 7:3.3.3-2), libswscale4:amd64 (7:3.3.3-1, 7:3.3.3-2), firefox-esr-l10n-el:amd64 (52.2.0esr-2, 52.3.0esr-1), libavresample3:amd64 (7:3.3.3-1, 7:3.3.3-2), firefox-esr:amd64 (52.2.0esr-2, 52.3.0esr-1), libkpathsea6:amd64 (2017.20170613.44572-4, 2017.20170613.44572-5)
End-Date: 2017-08-10 18:19:27
I don't know if it is related to this thread https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1512
It struggles to boot up, at recovery console I have no network (wifi only) connection, and once lightdm starts uo both keyboard and mouse are freezing up. Only plug will shut it off.
I think in terms of technical manuals and computers a hordcopy is what you print on your own.
I'd look at O'reiley publications or textbooks from college courses
I don't like leaving things broken, so I used a wheezy iso to install ol'trusty wheezy with sysvinit, and the upgrade to Devuan went
easier than from Jessie. Then if I get your live working on an other pc I will copy your /home and /root stuff into the new installation and
install everything missing. That pc had Jessie on for a while, and it run sluggish. Wheezy run at least twice faster!!
Looking back at the screen conky didn't come up on mine, so maybe conky creates the problem
Nope, no run.
On default as soon as it stabilized I right clicked, the menu came up and it froze. Only power supply interruption could get me out.
On nomodeset?? it froze before I even clicked.
I know loading to ram will not work with 256K and what is the other option?
This is great because I just broke the last Devuan 32bit installation by upgrading to ascii
There is some hardware (odd enough) that were dropped from the support lisr from Jessie to Stretch and mine happens to have GFX from that list.
I thought wrong not to check before I upgraded and BOOM. Black screen syndrome, no going back.
@fungus : Not to get political, ........ First Amendment .....
Not the place, not the time, I have already been banned once by golinux, but we do not all live in the US or have respect for constitutional amendments within dictatorships.
It would also help provide a clean, trouble-free install for Debian users who choose to avoid SystemD, a win-win all round.
It is very trouble-free, they can just point the repositories to Devuan, install a couple of Devuan packages, update/upgrade and it is done. Unless we are talking about different things.
That seems to be a task that is simple today after years of work, trial and error. Apart from this the wealth of Devuan lies on the 40-50k packages of Debian. It is the same path the younger (newborn) Artix has taken in proximity to the Arch library of packages.
The question is whether this ease of selection of init systems will last or will it be short lived.
maybe that's the reason of the ugly appearance of Devuan
What's so ugly in Devuan that you need to change, I'll help you out. You don't like the purpy pale yellow coordination?
Apart from that I can hardly find anything specific to Devuan and its appearance, but you can change whatever you don't like.
We don't have dbus thankfully to be autoscrewing
Did you try editing you fstab and make a usb mounting directory on /media?
Read the part about using fstab to mount usb media.
https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev … dbus#fstab
No, but don't worry about it, I'll get used to it.
The fm works fine, but on LXDE (where you can have openbox menus) the desktop works like a fm.
I use a common folder for desktop for all installations, and that is where I arrange everything I am working on. With the basic desktop menu right-click gives you the options of ^C ^X ^V on files and folders. When I have obmenu or ob-generator on I lose that ability. Small thing really, I just thought that maybe you may know a way around it in making that menu-item. Dragging files to a subfolder of the desktop folder works the same and also doing it with keys ^C ^X ^V also works.
Anyway, don't waste any time on this, work on the i386 project, and keep it gnome free.
You vuu-do chile you!
Maybe we should get together and produce a guitar/music distro out of Devuan. Tuning, Recording, Editing, Publishing, Broadcasting. X-road-Vuu-do-chile Devuan or De-Mojo-vuan
How can I add Ctrl C Ctrl X Ctrl V in the generator menu?
It doesn't make much sense in openbox but in LXDE when you want to ctrl click a bunch of files and move them in a subfolder for example, if you have the
generator active you can't cut and paste stuff.
Insignificant little things but just in case you readily have an answer.
PS You two, have created a generator monster https://pasteboard.co/GEBOY5n.png
I have a 32b box with 256kB of Ram, I will give it a shot.
https://devuan.org/index.html#download
The same list of the official images exist in all mirrors so choose one near you.
If you have a fast ethernet connection you can use netinstall and minimal and add what you like.
If you want a desktop (I think xfce is the default) use the larger images.
You can use live if you are unsure your hardware would work. You can set certain things up on your live system
and the refracta installer will install that system on your drive/partition. Use Devuan's gparted partitioner for the installation.
There are also devuan projects/forks. The two I know and have used are with openbox and are very light in resources and
if you didn't like openbox before, wait till you see MiyoLinux and Vuu-Do (on my signature).
The devuan installer is so much fun you would want to do it over again.
I removed pulseaudio pulseaudio-control and pavuvolume
I have sound on everything and alsa controls and mixer work
But that is my box, I've heard some that really need it.
Mozilla? What is that?
echo "was it systemd that was the fucker of linux?" | awk '{ print $3 " " $5 " " $6 " " $7 " " $8 " " $9 }' | sed 's/?/./'
GNU nano was first created in 1999 with the name TIP (TIP Isn't Pico), by Chris Allegretta. His motivation was to create a free software replacement for Pico, which was not distributed under a free software license. The name was changed to nano on 10 January 2000 to avoid a naming conflict with the existing Unix utility tip. The name comes from the system of SI prefixes, in which nano is 1000 times larger than pico. In February 2001, nano became a part of the GNU Project.
GNU nano implements some features that Pico lacks, including colored text, regular expression search and replace, smooth scrolling, multiple buffers, rebindable key support,[5] and undoing and redoing of edit changes.[6]
Pico (Pine composer) is a text editor for Unix and Unix-based computer systems. It is integrated with the Pine e-mail client, which was designed by the Office of Computing and Communications at the University of Washington.
From the Pine FAQ: "Pine's message composition editor is also available as a separate stand-alone program, called PICO. PICO is a very simple and easy-to-use text editor offering paragraph justification, cut/paste, and a spelling checker...".[1]
That solved the puzzle, I thought the package was native in stable and was discontinued, this is why it was thrown away when I upgraded to ascii/ceres.