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#276 Re: Installation » [solved]Paused at installing grub? » 2019-05-18 08:30:36

If memory use is an issue for you, don't use Devuan or any other main distro. Instead, switch to a lean system like LFS (Linux from scratch). Having said that, I'd recommend updating your hardware, starting with the old harddrive. Refurbished drives don't cost a lot and even new ones don't break the bank anymore. BTW: Linux uses as much RAM as it can find and has pretty good memory-housekeeping in the kernel.

As for Grub: yes, it takes time, especially on older hardware (which you implicate you have).

#277 Re: Installation » Interested in installing devuan, couple questions before I do » 2019-05-18 08:19:23

You may want to investigate the stage3/stage4 tarballs used in Gentoo/Funtoo as these offer a good deal of the functionality you describe.

HTH!

#278 Re: Devuan » Can I install OpenStack on Devuan? » 2019-05-16 03:34:15

I see no reason why it couldn't, given that Devuan, like Ubuntu, is based on Debian. The only hurdle might be if OpenStack depends on some specific systemd stuff that's not (yet) ported to Devuan, so best check the requirements of Open Stack and see if Devuan offers the functionality it needs.

#279 Re: Installation » Interested in installing devuan, couple questions before I do » 2019-05-14 22:05:48

I used Mate/LightDM smile  Having said that, Funtoo is based on Gentoo and has OpenRC as init system, which is highly parallelized. IMO a modern system based on NVMe M.2 or PCIe SSD's with OpenRC would be able to cut cold-start boot times to below 3-5 seconds. Currently, manufacturers claim to have approached the theoretical band-width of PCIe (4Gb/s) in the latest incarnations of PCIe based SSD's (including NVMe) at 3.7 Gb/s read/write. Personally, I foresee that SATA will follow the likes of IDE, ISA and APG within the next 5 years as PCIe and whatever follows it will render the "old" SATA bus obsolete.

But then, what do I know wink

#280 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan 2.0 ASCII Stable » 2019-05-13 14:44:03

Well, that's the problem: not everyone has fast broadband access to the web at the place (s)he wants to run Devuan. So, for my work I do the following: at a location with fast broadband.access (at home) I create/update a local mirror, then copy said mirror to an external HDD, take this HDD to my place of work, where I don't have access at all, then copy the mirror from the HDD to the local mirror on the server I set up for this purpose. I can assure you rsync is a godsend time-saver on copying files over wink  This setup allows me to install Mate offline on refurbished PC's, w/o resorting to switching disks all the time. I simply install a basic system, then modify the sources.list file to use the local offline mirror exclusively and install from there.

#281 Re: Other Issues » deb.devuan.org doesn't get updates for Jessie, auto.mirror.devuan does » 2019-05-13 05:01:41

A related issue I ran into, although for Ascii: over the weekend, maybe longer, my usual nl.deb.devuan.org repo failed due to missing release files. Changing to deb.devuan.org failed too, as it points to the same local mirror. Changing to pkgmaster.devuan.org fixed the problem. Does that warrant a bug report?

#282 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [Solved] Webserver: connection refused » 2019-05-11 19:32:08

In that case, you'd need to provide a boot-script for OpenRC that contains the webmin start command. There's plenty of info on how to write a boot-script for Open RC on the web, or simply copy an existing script, rename and edit it properly then invoke the openrc command to start it.

#283 Re: Installation » Interested in installing devuan, couple questions before I do » 2019-05-11 11:49:21

crankypuss wrote:

IMO it's a disgrace that there's no linux distro that will start up in less than a second on some average mid-level machine.

Name me any OS that performs this from a cold start. roll

I had, for a time, a moderately spec'd desktop that could do a cold start in under 10 seconds, using an SSD, running Funtoo. This was with a Grub time-out period, so effectively it could boot in under 5 seconds. I'm still on the same hardware, but as I had to change OS due to Funtoo's inability to perform an intelligent update/upgrade w/o breaking virtually anything, switching to Devuan, it takes a little longer to boot, but still below 30 sec.

#284 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [Solved] Webserver: connection refused » 2019-05-11 11:35:31

When installing Webmin, it doesn't automagically configure itself to start at boot. Easiest way is reinstalling the latest Webmin (1.910 at the time of writing) then head for "System" -> "Bootup and Shutdown" in the menu, mark Webmin to start at boot and apply.

[edit]Alternatively, if you can login on the cli via ssh, run the command (as root!):

sh /etc/init.d/webmin start

This enables you to skip reinstalling Webmin, but you still need to instruct it to start at boot as described.[/edit]

HTH!

#285 Re: News & Announcements » [package bump request] Youtube-dl » 2019-01-12 20:13:30

When I do that (installed from a .deb package) it tells me it detected yt-dl was installed via a package manager and I should use that to install a new version, then quits. It does not update the package!

@golinux: No offense, but I'm not cool with your 'compile it yourself' advise every time someone asks for the inclusion of a new or updated package. Yes, I could compile stuff myself, but then I'd be installing s/w outside of the apt tool chain, so what's the use of that? Taking that a step further, if I install tools/apps outside of the package management tools provided by Debian/Devuan, what's the purpose of a package manager? Then I could just switch back to Funtoo, which is a source-based distro anyway roll

#286 News & Announcements » [package bump request] Youtube-dl » 2019-01-11 13:27:35

Dutch_Master
Replies: 14

Could someone update the youtube-dl package for Ascii please? The current package is from mid-2017 and it's now failing on certain (but not all) YT URL's.

TIA!

(this is probably the wrong place, but I couldn't think of a better location. Probably tiredness, sorry!)

#287 Re: Other Issues » (Un)Limited TTL for mirror Release files » 2019-01-11 13:22:04

Many thanks guys, I had given up on this. ATM I'm having a holiday so it's not really urgent.

@pcalvert: this is exactly what I'm doing, installing a Devuan base system (no GUI!) from an install CD (I only use CD1 from the set) then edit sources.list to remove the cdrom entry and enable the local mirror. I know I can provide a path during the install phase, but as my co-worker(s) has/have little to no Linux experience, I'd like to keep it simple for him/them in the install guide I wrote. Which also teaches him/them a bit about Linux wink

As for the ttl-workaround: I update from the official Devuan mirror on my desktop, then copy the entire tree (rsync is an asset here!) to a USB harddrive. This harddrive is then used to transfer the tree onto the local offline mirror, again using rsync. So that's not a problem. The issue is with the clients on the offline network that need installing. Now the ttl of the mirror is set so low I essentially have to sync the mirror each time I go there. (it's a part-time section of my job, just 2 days/week and not consecutive)  Our IT guys have promised me I can get online access as soon as the fibre connection works, but that's delayed since at least Sept. last year roll

#288 Re: Other Issues » (Un)Limited TTL for mirror Release files » 2018-11-15 14:14:10

Coming back to this, it seems the TTL, which was about 6 days, has been cut considerably, meaning I should now update the mirror virtually essentially every time I need to work with it. That's obviously not happening, so basically this is dead. I understand the underlaying security stuff and all, but for off-line mirrors w/o any chance of a web connection, this is the killer. The message is clear: if you want to have a local mirror, it needs to be online 24/7. Which kindof defeats the purpose of having a local repository/mirror :-\

#289 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » How to install nvidia CUDA on ASCII? » 2018-06-27 07:01:57

@msi: he'd already stated he's on Ascii, as per the title of the thread tongue

@strierlitz: post your /etc/apt/sources.list, it should include the contrib and non-free repo's. If they don't, add these (synaptic has the option to do it for you, but as you're clearly capable of comfortable on the cli, a text editor will do too wink ) then update the package list: apt-get update.

HTH!

#290 Re: Other Issues » Where to express package requests? » 2018-06-23 12:27:37

Well, I'm not really interested in becoming a package maintainer. For starters, I'm not a coder, I've already committed to introducing a local language pack (and a 2nd if that goes well) and a lot of other commitments (non-Linux related!) take up a lot of spare time.

I did find a page introducing d1h, which may or may not entice me giving it a try for personal use.

#291 Other Issues » Where to express package requests? » 2018-06-23 07:41:52

Dutch_Master
Replies: 4

Something I haven't found so far: where can I request packages to be build/included into Devuan? There's 2 I'd like to see appear ASAP (seamonkey and unetbootin) but nowhere on the Devuan site can I find a way to request those packages being included, all I found was a reference to this forum.

TIA!

#293 Re: Installation » Network booting » 2018-06-19 21:41:09

NFS is a server-client system, so just nfs-common on its own doesn't work at all, as you've experienced. What you need is to install nfs-server on the appropriate machine and then configure both server and client to exchange data. For the server, you 'export' the directory you want to share, while on the client, a line must be added to fstab so the kernel knows where to find it. See the NFS man-pages for more detailed info.

#294 Re: Installation » [Solved] Ascii upgrade (also) messed up this Devuan Jessie » 2018-06-17 19:26:27

OK, reboot into rescue mode, then fire up aptitude:

aptitude

Use the / key to bring up a search box and find the package x11-xkb-tools. If it has an i in front, it's installed. If that's the case, purge it (Shift+-) then re-install the package. It'll probably throw up a bunch of errors when purging, remove all packages that rely on it too (they'll be re-installed when you install the package)

HTH!

#295 Re: Installation » Installation attempt does not seem to see partitions » 2018-06-17 17:51:40

Well, first things first: if you have any data on that machine worth keeping, copy it over to a safe storage device. When done, it allows you to start afresh.

Rather then writing a detailed guide, I'll refer you to the install guide from Funtoo. I've run Funtoo in the (recent) past and found their install guide very helpful indeed. The part you need is here: click! Funtoo uses the SysrescueCD tools to give you a working live system. It's perfectly OK to use it preparing your hard-drive. Make sure you reboot the machine for changes to the partition table to take effect.

Once done setting up the disk as you've chosen, re-run the installer from the live-disk (or USB drive in your case) to see if it detects the partitions you've made.

HTH!

#296 Re: Forum Feedback » Much ado about nothing » 2018-06-17 17:34:20

Om further reflection I'm with cynwulf in this case. I run my own forum (nothing to do with OSS) and am a member of another, very large forum (100,000+ members, 1M+ messages, also nothing to do with OSS) which actually removed the 'negative' ratings people could give to posts for precisely the reason stated above: abuse by certain cliques. My own forum runs on phpBB (which doesn't have the ability to rate posts) and I've resisted the urge to upgrade it to a forum engine that does, even though I can see the merits of that, but I'm not willing to spend (much/any) time dealing with those abusing the ratings system.

#297 Re: Forum Feedback » Let's make this forum multilingual! (Calling for language authors) » 2018-06-17 06:12:38

golinux wrote:

My advice is to stay away from LO for any text/config files.  Please use a text editor like mousepad or Pluma or geany etc..

OK then, Pluma it'll be.

golinux wrote:

If you would provide Dutch that would be most appreciated!

Given it's gonna be a full translation, I might be a while. Remind me 3 months in (that is, after I received the templates, etc) smile

#298 Re: Forum Feedback » Let's make this forum multilingual! (Calling for language authors) » 2018-06-17 06:08:23

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

Great! Dutch, or "Netherlands", is a new language for this forum, as is German ("Deutche"), so those tasks will involve the full grunt of translating some 1500 phrases, and 16 email templates.

Yikes! I thought you'd said it was already partially done. Never mind, just takes a while longer to get through the list. Anyway, you were nearly there:
Dutch -> Nederlands
German -> Deutsch
wink

Mind, there are multiple versions of both languages. Dutch knows several dialects (despite being a small country) as well as Flemish, which is spoken in northern Belgium. The Flemish are particularly particular that they don't speak Dutch, but Flemish instead! For German, it's even worse! There's 3 countries speaking German, and each have local dialects as well as the official version: "Hoch-Deutsch". Which is the version you'll get from me, when I getroundtoit.

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

I used to have a script that made a CSV for the phrases to make it easier But, as that was a couple of laptops ago, it'll take a short while to recall. When I've done so, and prepared the basis, I'll email it to your registration email address.

OK, thx!

ralph.ronnquist wrote:

It reminds me that I'm still sitting still on the Swedish translation sad

Ah, can't help you with that I'm afraid tongue

#299 Re: Forum Feedback » Let's make this forum multilingual! (Calling for language authors) » 2018-06-16 22:05:26

OK, if it's that simple I'll have a look into the Dutch language pack then. Can't make any promises as there's a lot on my plate already. Can these files be opened by LibreOffice and more importantly, edited and saved in the correct format?

If Dutch works, I may try my hand at German too. But as a non-native speaker I'm not sure my options/solutions/translations would be best suited. For now, that's of no concern, first the Dutch language pack to solve before anything else!

#300 Re: Forum Feedback » Much ado about nothing » 2018-06-16 21:55:50

I'd raise the threshold for defining a troll a little to, say, 5. A true troll will annoy enough members to meet this figure, but it will not falsely accuse a member who has a disagreement with one or more others about trivial, or controversial, matters. Like, which DE or text editor is the best, whether Devuan should do a full implementation of systemd (please don't! sad ) or even which music player to designate as standard for a minimal install. And members should be able to revoke their vote if/when they find it was wrongly applied.

Just me tuppence lads!

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