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Altoid,
I guess I didn't get it "sorted out" I formatted the drive with NTFS while setting up veracrypt.
But when I connected it to a Win10 laptop, it wasn't recognized.
And just now I reconnected it to my devuan machine and it is not recognized (mounting) either!
Sigh,  maybe i have a 128 Gb SD micro around here I can use...
Altoid,
I used a Monster (tm) Overdrive Advanced 128 Gb device that I purchased at Sam's Club maybe a decade ago for around $30. At the time it was the lowest priced USB solid state device at that capacity available. It used the wide USB cable that Samsung used on a Galaxy phone back then.  It has a normal USB Micro connector with a smaller connector right next to it (I think it was to supply additional charging current.)  It is not the conventional thumb drive form factor.
Here is one on eBay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/224991438513?_ … R5qNzO25Zg
Sorry about the bloated link!
As a "closer" It ended simply,
I opened the file for the encrypted drive in Thunar and in another tab my ./home 
clicked and drug the file from /home to the veracrypt drive and it began copying.
It was easy, but not quick, it took hours for the copy to complete.
Sometimes when I attempt to listen to a youtube video, my USB headset doesn't work.
Sometimes it will work after a reboot, sometimes messing with the audio control panel gets it working.
(I'm not sure which random mouse click brings it back....)
Oh great, I tried to submit a post, but the website logged me out while I was typing it, and now it is gone.,,
Any way, I moved the data off the USB into a folder I made on /home of my PC.
I then ran Veracrypt,  it created a Volume on the USB drive /dev/sde1 (128 GB)
With formatting it took over an hour.
Now I'm having difficulty moving the sub-directory from /home (86.4 Gb) into the volume I created.
While click on "Select File" I then choose the sub-directory  from /home
When I click on "Open File"  it then opens the sub-directory and lists its contents,
Butt All Files doesn't select all (as far as I can tell the button doesn't even work..)
It just wants me to open a file in THAT sub-directory
I don't understand how to make the /home sub-directory a .hc as the Beginner's Guide seems to suggest.
I have downloaded and opened veracrypt.
But as I understand,, I cannot encrypt the contents existing USB drive?
Veracrypt claims it will format the drive, meaning that I will lose all the data on it.
I suppose I could move the data to a hard drive, encrypt the USB, then move the data back?
Thank you Rolfie!
Good day!
I have saved ~93 Gb off of my brother's old PC (Win10?) onto a USB SSD.
As he lives in another state, I would like to encrypt the drive before mailing it.
I'm not sure how to do that.  He will need to be able to decrypt it on a Win11 machine.
Is this possible?
I'm thinking of using a password that is familiar to him.
Regards,
Tweedlewise
Thanks all!
I typed in a reply thanking you for your suggestions,
but when I clicked "preview" my login had timed out!
Marking this as "Solved"
So, I ran
find . -path  "./proc/*" -prune -o -name "heif-gdk-pixbut" -printand got a bunch of 
"Permission Denied"
but no indication of where that booger might be.
[edit]
Okay I sent the "Permission Denied" to /dev/null
but still don't know where the program ended up.
So, I installed heif-gdk-pixbuf this afternoon because my daughter sent me photos from her iPhone, and I was unable to view them.
Later, I installed ivm with Synaptic Package Manager, which allows me to view the photos, but I am unable to convert them to .jpeg to upload to a website that does not accept .heif photos.
So as the terminal view below shows, apt install seemed to work okay, but when I tried to find heif-gdk-pixbut it returned: "Huh? What's that?"
xxx@xxx:~$ sudo apt install heif-gdk-pixbuf
[sudo] password for xxx: 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  fonts-wine libcapi20-3 libosmesa6 libwpe-1.0-1 libwpebackend-fdo-1.0-1
  libz-mingw-w64 linux-image-6.1.0-10-amd64
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  heif-gdk-pixbuf
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 10 not upgraded.
Need to get 8,484 B of archives.
After this operation, 36.9 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main amd64 heif-gdk-pixbuf amd64 1.15.1-1+deb12u1 [8,484 B]
Fetched 8,484 B in 4s (1,916 B/s)          
Selecting previously unselected package heif-gdk-pixbuf:amd64.
(Reading database ... 158336 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../heif-gdk-pixbuf_1.15.1-1+deb12u1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking heif-gdk-pixbuf:amd64 (1.15.1-1+deb12u1) ...
Setting up heif-gdk-pixbuf:amd64 (1.15.1-1+deb12u1) ...
Processing triggers for libgdk-pixbuf-2.0-0:amd64 (2.42.10+dfsg-1+deb12u1) ...
xxx@xxxt:~$ whereis !$
whereis heif-gdk-pixbuf
heif-gdk-pixbuf:I recall a few weeks ago doing an apt install for a different program, and similarly was unable to find it.
I'm guessing I need to brush up on the find command
As side question, I installed Devuan to get away from systemd, so why is there /run/systemd ?
Thanks again rolfie!
Swap:
ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 73.87 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%)
dev: /dev/sda2
Hooray!
I also installed asunder after your recommendation!
Tweedlewise
2 questions please,
1. How do I know if I succeeded in getting the swap partition properly set up? 
    (During the recent boot, I saw mention of "swapfile", so I'm sure if  I edited /etc/fstab correctly.
   
[fsmithred]you can run mkswap on it and edit /etc/fstab to use that partition instead of the swapfile. Note that it will be outside your encrypted partitions and insecure.
2. Not related to this sub-forum, but how do I rip my music CD's to my Music folder?
    (I read something about "flac" but it apparently isn't loaded on my PC, apt-get didn't get it either)
edit: Doh! Synaptic File Manager found flac for me!
p.s. I'm still haven't tried 'fsmithred's suggestion about, combining the / and /home partitions during boot (it is still on the todo list, but I'm unfamiliar with what a keyfile is.
To avoid entering a password for both home and root partitions, you could make a keyfile that automatically opens the home partition during boot. This post has a couple of useful links for that: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=38078#p38078
 Thanks again!
Tweedlewise(?)
Thank you administrator!
> To be able to answer the question how to add swap, you owe us some information about which kind of boundary condition we are facing in your case. How does the installation look alike currently?
>    # fdisk -l
> Note: the first command is run on the user account, the second one as root, indicated by the prompt before the command.
> PS: I do set up my system with the traditional so called full disk encryption with luks, having an unencrypted /boot, and I am decrypting the computer with hidden >keys sitting on USB sticks. When the stick is removed the PC does not boot.
fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 931.51 GiB, 1000204886016 bytes, 1953525168 sectors
Disk model: ST1000DM003-1CH1
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xcc603bdc
Device     Boot     Start        End    Sectors   Size Id Type
/dev/sda1  *         2048  269588479  269586432 128.5G 83 Linux
/dev/sda2       269588480  424511487  154923008  73.9G 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda3       424511488 1953523711 1529012224 729.1G 83 LinuxI set up sda1 /, and sda3 /home to have the same encryption "key" but separately during Install
> How did you create these 3 partitions? And how did you use the partitioner inside the installer? Did you use manual or guided partitioning?
During installation I used 2 different programs to partition, one was gparted, and the other (I don't remember the name of) was also in the Live installation.
(SunOS was so much easier to partition!)
$ inxi -Fzr
System:
  Kernel: 6.1.0-30-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1
    Distro: Devuan GNU/Linux 5 (daedalus)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Dell product: Inspiron 3847 v: N/A
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Dell model: 088DT1 v: A01 serial: <superuser required> BIOS: Dell
    v: A04 date: 04/03/2014
CPU:
  Info: dual core model: Intel Core i3-4150 bits: 64 type: MT MCP cache:
    L2: 512 KiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 2146 min/max: 800/3500 cores: 1: 3491 2: 800 3: 3493
    4: 800
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 4th Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics
    driver: i915 v: kernel
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
    unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: crocus gpu: i915 resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 4400 (HSW
    GT2)
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio
    driver: snd_hda_intel
  Device-2: Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio
    driver: snd_hda_intel
  API: ALSA v: k6.1.0-30-amd64 status: kernel-api
  Server-1: PulseAudio v: 16.1 status: active
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
    driver: r8169
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter
    driver: ath9k
  IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 2.73 TiB used: 70.83 GiB (2.5%)
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST1000DM003-1CH162 size: 931.51 GiB
  ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Toshiba model: MQ01UBB200 size: 1.82 TiB
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 125.47 GiB used: 6.03 GiB (4.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-0
  ID-2: /home size: 716.57 GiB used: 64.8 GiB (9.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-1
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 256 MiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) file: /swapfile
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 28.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 518 mobo: 855
Repos:
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
    1: deb [url]http://deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] daedalus main non-free-firmware
    2: deb [url]http://deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] daedalus-updates main non-free-firmware
    3: deb [url]http://deb.devuan.org/merged[/url] daedalus-security main non-free-firmware
Info:
  Processes: 222 Uptime: 1h 48m Memory: 7.67 GiB used: 1.99 GiB (25.9%)
  Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.26> If you deny you have to use the Ubuntu way with sudo for administrative tasks.
Actually, I have used "sudo" in the past, Your comment explains why "su" would only give an "Authentication Failure" when I tried to run commands as "root"!
(As you can see above "sudo" allowed me to run "fdisk -l" above.
Thanks again for your responses!
Sincerely,
Tweedlewise
Thanks smithred!
Okay, downloaded Daedalus amd and installed it to a USB drive.
It has installed on the PC (I'm writing from it now-Yay!)
Much quicker than DVD!
During install I gave it separate passwords for the disk, partitions, root, and user/self.
I am currently transferring files from my backup to my home partition.
A couple of problems.
I made 3 partitions root, swap, home
I set the 2nd as linux-swap, but is not being used as swap, just sits there, showing up as a partition that I cannot access, 
1. How can I get the system to recognize it as swap when booting?
2. Also when I try to access the root partition (or swap as it is listed in Thunar) , it pops up an "Authentication Required" dialog box, but the passwords I've attempted (the ones I made during install) do not work.
3. How do I install additional programs?
   Is that what RefractaInstaller is for?
  I have never heard of Refracta before going to Devuan.
[edit]
NEVER MIND #3 I figured it out as Synaptic Package Manager
Sincerely,
Tweedlewise
inxi -Fzr : Command not found
dmesg worked, but that is quite large.
dmesg did list an nvidia in the final audit apparmor portion.
>Hi there, welcome to the dev1galaxy forum.
Thank you, Rolfie!
>Well, some questions: is your computer really about ten years old?
Year of manufacture: 2014
>Then why do you want to install the 32bit version?
Huh?
> Why not amd64?
Because it is an Intel processor? And I didn't see a 64 bit Intel version listed.
> Any ten year old PC will be able to use that (except some very crude simple outdated stuff).
> And why use a DVD?
Because it has one.
> Booting from an USB stick should also be fully supported from such kind of hardware.
I think I tried that first, and when the install went sideways, I went with DVD .iso because that is what worked in the (not so distant) past.
> A guess: NVidia graphics involved? 
I don't really know...
> It would be perfect for support if we knew more about the involved components. Please can you add here the output from
> inxi -Fzr
If I can run (and save the output) from boot  single user (recovery?) mode, I'll do that.
BTW, I'm an old UNIX sysop, but never heard of that command before, I hope to get it posted for you.
Thanks again!
? It may be neccesary to install this package first.
After 3 attempts to install Daedulus -i386 from a DVD .iso, onto a 10 year old Dell tower, I keep ending up with a black screen shortly after it begins Init 2.
I say "black screen" because the monitor does not display a HDMI not connected message.
There is no mouse arrow either.
I am frustrated at this, as I was looking forward to installing Devuan after Linux Mint 17 no longer allowed me to update Brave or Firefox, and they were not allowing me to complete transactions,
Early in the ;process or installations, I lost my Win7 partition and all its data (yeah, I should've backed that up too before installing.)
So, is this a problem that is easily solved?
If not, I'm going back to Linux with systemd I feel the days spent trying to get a working install have been wasted.
Sincerely,
Tweedlewise
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