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#1 Re: Installation » No live devuan or refracta will boot on a new AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX370 » 2025-06-13 11:38:28
I downloaded devuan_excalibur_6.0-20250605_amd64_netinstall.iso from another mirror and success - well nearly: I could not use f2fs for my root partition. It seems that the partitioner could not manage f2fs.
I have had the same problem before with daedalus, and I thought that I bug reported that back then. I managed to work arround that, but don't remember how I did it: probably by taking a copy of / , reformating with f2fs and then copying back. It does seem odd that in these days of ssd that a format especially designed for that hardware is
not supported by default.
But basically success. So thanks to everyone. Of course it is too early to know what other problems I may hit after the basic installation.
#2 Re: Installation » No live devuan or refracta will boot on a new AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX370 » 2025-06-13 09:24:42
Thanks for all the replies.
1) I tried the vuu-do Devuan-Mate-Mini-20250206_1826.iso anyway. It worked on my old MBR clevo, but
was not even visible in the new UEFI laptop BIOS. In my first post, I did not say that I had disabled UEFI, but the
UEFI 'Secure boot' setting.
2) I will try
devuan_excalibur_6.0-20250605_amd64_netinstall.iso
when I can find it :-) It isn't on the mirror that I was using.
3) I need to follow up on the other suggestions. Thanks.
#3 Re: Installation » No live devuan or refracta will boot on a new AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX370 » 2025-06-12 21:52:09
I should have added that all the iso's work on my older Clevo, but that is using MBR rather than UEFI.
#4 Re: Installation » No live devuan or refracta will boot on a new AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX370 » 2025-06-12 21:48:52
Another update. I have since tried devuan_excalibur_6.0-20241017_amd64_netinstall.iso.
No joy.
All these iso's fail to mount with errors like
Failed to mount .. LABEL=DEVUAN.. on /cdrom
and indeed on the refractars which dump to grub, I have now explored further and the only file (system) system is
/boot/grub/grub.cfg
and that grub.cfg is trying to load from /isolinux or from /boot/isolinux/initrd.gz and those files or filesystems do not exist.
I said earlier that the keyboard did not work (past the initial dialogue) on devuan_excalibur_6.0-20241017_amd64_netinstall.iso and
devuan_daedalus_5.0.0_amd64_desktop-live.iso, but that the automatic option seemed to download
drivers or whatever to re-enable the keyboard. I can't get that to work again. So a full stop.
It may be that I have only rechecked on excalibur and need to switch back to daedalus.
But right now it looks as if I can't get devuan on this machine in any straight forward way. Perhaps I can take the ssd out and prepare it in another machine, but as of yet I can't open the case (lack of usual instructions), and it is under warranty so I need to be very careful.
Perhaps I will have to give up on devuan for now, at least. I hate to let systemd on, but I guess that I have to try to get debian to install. I only have a few days to return the machine if I can't get linux running, although that seems very unlikely.
This clevo is sold with linux installed on some dedicated linux shops, so it can't be that hard.
#5 Re: Installation » No live devuan or refracta will boot on a new AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX370 » 2025-06-12 21:24:06
I didn't realise that refracta_13_nox_amd64-20250425_1329.iso was 32 bit. I just saw amd64 as part of the name and assumed that it was 64 bit. Are you sure?
I followed your link and saw "This is not uefi-enabled"? So isn't that going to fail at the first hurdle? I don't think the BIOS on this machine will not boot from MBR?
I had never heard of ventoy. Why would I use anything but dd ?
#6 Installation » No live devuan or refracta will boot on a new AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX370 » 2025-06-12 18:31:30
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I have just bought a Clevo V560KU. These machines are sold under many different names, are highly configurable and can usually be sold without any WIndows. Be that as it may it uses a rather recent AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX370.
I am having trouble getting devuan installed: it looks as if I will be able to succeed with
devuan_daedalus_5.0.0_i386_desktop-live.iso, but I do not want to overwrite the existing partitions on the internal SSD
in case there are any manuals or other useful stuff there until I have taken a copy.
To get devuan_daedalus_5.0.0_i386_desktop-live to work, I had to get into the BIOS (hold down F2) and disable secure boot
and then use F7 to set the right boot device. However, the keyboard did not work on the menus. Eventually I tried auto-install
which didn't use the keyboard. The system clearly fetched a driver or perhaps some firmware, because although it failed, it then dumped me into the expert install menu, but now with a working keyboard. So there is something to be fixed there.
When I got as far as repartitioning the disk, I aborted since I wanted a backup first. Perhaps I could have backed up from there,
but instead I looked for a dedicated live devuan, especially since I already had a copy on an USB stick.
That devuan-live didn't work at all: it just dumped me into a grub prompt. So I looked for a refracta live image and tried
refracta_13_nox_amd64-20250425_1329.iso .
This also failed in the same way: it just produces a grub> prompt . It is a long time since I played the the grub command line
but could find nothing useful, although I was able to find and cat the grub.cfg file which was not enlightening.
#7 Re: Installation » Installing Beowulf with f2fs root partition? » 2020-05-20 19:55:07
OK. I am a little surprised because when I checked the grub git, I thought I saw the f2fs commit around 2 years ago.
That said, it would not be hard to include a later version of grub with f2fs support into the Beowulf installer, would it?
Meanwhile I loop mounted the live Beowulf iso and looked in the live/initrd,img, but again no f2fs module. I had hoped that the refracta images might already support f2fs.
Again, I suppose that I ought to be able to build a new initrd.img with f2fs support and create an new iso with genisoimage, and maybe
an updated grub. But that is a bit of a hassle, especially as the laptop that I am expecting to buy is a rather new model with perhaps some chip and bios quirks to overcome.
#8 Installation » Installing Beowulf with f2fs root partition? » 2020-05-20 16:13:56
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I posted a similar question on dng@lists.dyne.org yesterday.
I plan to install Beowulf on a new laptop soon, and wish to use f2fs as the root partition (and maybe boot partition) on the SSD.
Which, if any, of the install images support that? I looked at the devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_RC_amd64_desktop-live.iso and there did not seem to be any f2fs packages in the on-disk pool.
I loop-mounted devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_RC_amd64_desktop-live.isoand ran lsinitramfs on the ../boot/iisolinux/initrd.gz which seems to be the initramsys for the installer, and looked around lib/modules/4.19.0-8-amd64/kernel/fs/ for the f2fs module. It did not seem to be there.
That suggests that even if I prepartitioned an SSD and formatted for f2fs, even then the installer would fail?
Presumably all the installer iso's use a similar initramfs, so none of them would work?
Grub has supported f2fs for several years, but is that true of the grub in the installer, or is it somehow cut down?
Could the Beowulf installer please add support for f2fs?
Meanwhile, perhaps I could rebuild the initramfs from devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_RC_amd64_desktop-live.isoand adding f2fs, produce a new isa and use that. I am not sure what else I would need: presuambly if I used a net install I could fetch the other f2fs tools as needed?
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