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#1 Re: Off-topic » ${THEY} continue crippling browsers... » Yesterday 16:15:25

snork wrote:

[sarcasm]Awesome... I'm sure they're dropping FTP in order to make room for great new features like Bonzi Buddy![/sarcasm]

No - even better (or worse depending on your viewpoint): "Firefox 88 now supports PDF forms that have JavaScript embedded in PDF files... Apparently JS in PDF is a thing for form validation and other interactive elements." … 8-Released

I mean - what could possibly go wrong?

#2 Re: Off-topic » youtube-dl tutorial » Yesterday 15:37:28

How about making a "yt-webm" or "yt-opus" (or similar) for downloading and playing lower-quality audios. For downloading lectures and podcasts where quality doesn't matter but getting a small file size is more important. I use this option a lot with the NewPipe app on my phone, which gives me a 50kbps opus option as the lowest quality download. Would there be many changes to make in your method besides the --audio-format option?

#3 Re: Off-topic » youtube-dl tutorial » 2021-04-19 23:05:29

This is fantastic! Awesome way to organize a song collection, thank you very much.

I'm using 'ytfzf -L <song name>' to find the url's for the songs, and then yt-mp3 to download them. ytfzf is a very cool ytdl search tool:

#4 Re: Off-topic » Gemini protocol » 2021-04-15 01:50:42

Distrotube has made his main website a capsule on Gemini - gemini://

#5 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-04-14 21:19:08

msi wrote:

Just compare the rendering of this very page in Elinks to that in any half-way capable graphical Web browser.

Looks fine to me - I'm responding to you from elinks, no problem whatsoever.

#6 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-04-14 17:42:22

Do not use bloated gui web browsers. If you can't do it with elinks or links2, you probably didn't need to do it anyway.

#7 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-04-13 03:31:17

MiyoLinux wrote:

People may not realize that despite his lack of curly locks, Miyo still has one of the prettiest wives in all of Linux land:

#8 Re: Off-topic » What other distro are you using (besides devuan)? » 2021-04-09 20:12:19

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Once more: the Devuan kernel is completely blob-free. Whatever extra modules you can see are all open-source unless you've added the contrib and/or non-free repository components and installed stuff from there.

That's an important distinction and good to know. Linux libre is the kernel I've compiled most often over the years and am most familiar with. I prefer using it on Devuan and antiX and MX.

#9 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-04-09 03:08:46

zapper wrote:

Actually, moc seems to be the lightest way to play audio that I know of.

ffplay is way more cpu usage intensive in my findings... heh.

Yes, big difference. Just played the same song with each - top showed moc using 1.4% cpu, and ffplay using 8%-14%. ffplay is bloat.

#10 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-04-09 02:51:48

I wonder if apt is bloat. I'm sure it is to a certain extent. Would the system allow you to uninstall apt and aptitude and dpkg? Then just build stuff from source. Would you still have Devuan at that point?

I'm going to try 'sudo apt purge apt aptitude dpkg' in a Devuan vm and see what happens... And really sudo is bloat too when you think about it, so I'll try 'sudo apt purge apt aptitude dpkg sudo' just for kicks.

Update: Nope, does not work.

#11 Re: Off-topic » What other distro are you using (besides devuan)? » 2021-04-08 20:43:32

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
andyprough wrote:

antiX Libre respin with Linux-libre kernel

You do know the De??an kernels are already de-blobbed, right? The only difference with the "Libre" kernel is that the ability to load non-free firmware has been hobbled but that's irrelevant if you use Devuan without the non-free firmware packages installed.

lsmod shows 41 additional modules with the default kernel in Devuan over the Linux-libre kernel in antiX Libre respin. Including some stuff I don't want such as appletalk and bluetooth. It's mainly just a personal preference though - the Devuan kernel is mostly blob-free enough for me, but I prefer Linux Libre, and I have no need to install non-free firmware on a Libre system so the "hobbling" is irrelevant.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

And to stay on topic: I've deleted my Debian systems so I'm now just using Arch & Alpine Linux. Alpine is my favourite and I might drop Arch

I'm proud of you!

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

once I get bored of GNOME 40.

I threw up in my mouth a little bit...

#12 Re: Off-topic » What other distro are you using (besides devuan)? » 2021-04-08 16:40:06

antiX Libre respin with Linux-libre kernel and the "abrowser" libre and privacy-focused firefox fork from the Trisquel project. All non-free firmware removed, so it is super light and super fast. None of that Intel mei module garbage to deal with.

Of course no systemd and no pulseaudio, goes without saying.

#13 Re: Off-topic » what music are you listening to RIGHT NOW? » 2021-04-03 22:23:58

Any Terry Kath fans? Chicago's Kath was Jimmy Hendrix' favorite guitarist in the early 70's. I'm listening to Chicago, "Oh Thank You Great Spirit", which is Kath's tribute to Hendrix:

It's got a very Hendrix-like guitar solo at the end.

#14 Re: Other Issues » Runit » 2021-03-30 14:18:58

xinomilo wrote:

btw, antix did some work on runit : … lseye-iso/
seems to use antix's own packages, not the debian way of mixing sysvinit/runit..
haven't seen it yet in action, will  be trying the latest iso in the following days : … available/

antiX has had runit ISO's available for about a year now. It's blazing fast.

#15 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2021-03-29 12:55:00

dice wrote:
andyprough wrote:

Any chance you can share the wallpaper by itself? That's a very good picture.

Hi it is a good picture, not very big size though as my laptop screen is only 1366x768.

I got the image from this website if you are interested, there are some others in the background you may like.

Nice! I was talking about HevyDevy's mountain wallpaper, but this whale picture is really a good one, thanks!

#16 Re: Off-topic » Show your desktop (rebooted) » 2021-03-28 23:07:14

Any chance you can share the wallpaper by itself? That's a very good picture.

#17 Re: DIY » Minimalism Tips » 2021-03-26 02:53:02

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

I think ffplay is also bloat, at least for music files:

for f in */*.wav; do aplay "$f"; done

Ouch!! That's nasty! You should warn someone before sharing commands like that.

#18 Re: Devuan » As Debian 11 moves closer to Devuan. Is there any reason to stay on De » 2021-02-24 16:27:57

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

I know it's an option for live-build but I don't think it will be in the installer.

Try the alpha3 ISO image for bullseye and report back, that should be pretty close to the release version.

I'm pretty shocked that a bunch of redditors got it all wrong. Shocked I tell you.

#19 Re: ARM Builds » Is a Devuan build for the new Apple M1 chip possible? » 2021-02-21 05:11:40

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Micronaut wrote:

Such intense Apple hate... Are they really any worse than Intel?

Fuck yes. Intel have contributed a huge amount to Linux, Apple are a bunch of twats.

Too busy grabbing stuff from the bsd'ers and repaying their kindness by donating literal pennies to their projects. Got to love non-copyleft licenses, trillionaires enriching themselves off the free labor of impoverished volunteers. Apple can't be bothered with copyleft code that would actually require them to share their changes.

#20 Re: ARM Builds » Is a Devuan build for the new Apple M1 chip possible? » 2021-02-19 22:22:52

Micronaut wrote:

Such intense Apple hate... Are they really any worse than Intel? It was sheer accident that IBM created a generic enough machine in their first PC that it could be cloned and actual competition became possible in the computer market. Apple has been much more careful, but still has not been able to totally control their hardware. We've had 'Boot Camp' for the Intel-based MACs since about a year after they appeared. I would hope and expect that something similar will be available for their ARM-based machines soon. It might be Android and Linux rather than Windows, but there will be fully functional OSes for these machines other than Apple's proprietary walled-garden.

I don't see Apple hate. I mean, other than HOAS literally dancing on Steve Jobs' grave. I just see a bunch of people noting that the hardware is normally underwhelming and overpriced, and that Apple makes poor software decisions that routinely make their own OS run slower on their own hardware than installing a distro on it. And benchmarks have repeatedly proven that all of this is completely true.

Also I see comments that most Apple users buy their hardware for status rather than any real benefit. Which is also obviously true, although there are probably some exceptions.

Stating the truth is not hate, even if the truth is unfavorable to something for which you are a fan.

Also, your IBM PC "sheer accident" cloning story is untrue. Open architecture and standardized, vendor-tested technology was an intentional part of the original design. … birth.html

#21 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Why I have to have a desktop and hope I am wrong. » 2021-02-17 06:02:13

For cli, mpv has a "--gapless-audio=yes" option by which mpv claims to give gapless play. So the command would be 'mpv --gapless-audio=yes song1 song2 song3...'. Unfortunately, I could not hear any difference - there's still the same gap of about one or two beats between songs as without using the option. Possibly it would work better with a playlist or with some other option.

#22 Re: Off-topic » Gemini protocol » 2021-02-13 04:21:34

ruenoak wrote:

@andyprough. I'm using Kristall nightly and elpher in Emacs both are Appimages so it depends on how you feel about using Appimages.
The reason for using the Emacs Appimage was the version in the repos doesn't support elpher.


Sounds good, thanks ruenoak. If this Lagrange browser I'm trying gives me any grief I'll try Kristall next. So far it's doing real well though and seems to be well maintained.

#23 Re: Off-topic » Gemini protocol » 2021-02-12 21:36:44

I'm trying out a gemini browser called "Lagrange". It's got a .deb installation file available as part of a Debian Buster zip download: … tag/v1.1.0

It has a few gemini sites bookmarked, and has a little search engine for searching some gemini sites worth visiting. I found ten pages (or "capsules") that mention Devuan. Seems to work very fast. Not a whole lot of content to look at right now.

#24 Re: Off-topic » Gemini protocol » 2021-02-12 14:43:31

ruenoak wrote:

Just wondering what the thoughts of the community are on Gemini.

I'd like to get a recommendation for a gemini client. There's a huge number of them, and I don't want to waste a lot of hours trying them all out. Is there one that's reasonably easy to install on Devuan and that works reasonably well? Looks like Castor may be the one to try first, but I figured I'd ask your opinion since you are more familiar with Gemini.

#25 Re: Off-topic » stable vs bleeding edge » 2021-01-22 15:07:28

F_Sauce wrote:

My oldest OS is running on devices from 1999; SuSE 9.1. is installed now, I am a bit nostalgic.

What kind of hardware is running SuSE 9.1 for you? That was an all-time great OS, I did accounting work for several years on the SuSE 9.x series.

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