HOAS is gone, Zap. He left to find a new group of Linux users to bedazzle with his sed and awk demonic incantations, I would imagine.

Don't stare at your wallpaper too long, that one could give a person seizures from the looks of it.

That's actually pretty good zap. I wonder if google will agree to launch their data centers and explode them? I guess that would be one way to close the bug report.

I'm surprised HOAS hasn't re-spun his own distro yet. It's been languishing for the past year, and he talked like he had some ideas for it. Maybe he's busy doing that now, who knows. I always liked him, he would help me do crazy things like rip the init system out of an installation and replace it with something experimental. That's probably old hat for folks around here, but for me that's over my head. Anyway, he's an internet wanderer, leaving an imprint on most Linux-y forums at some point. Kind of like zapper in that way.

I think this is talking about an Nvme in an external usb enclosure, which is how I ran Devuan on my main laptop for about a year recently. I installed it normally like @fsmithred said, and I just used the normal grub bootloader. I did not need to use unetbootin to do the installation. It was a nice, fast system - you couldn't tell that it was running off an external USB enclosure, except for the dongle hanging out the side of the laptop. Make sure you are connecting to a fast usb 3.1 port.

Ubuntu owns the boot management for your system and by default won't allow any other OS's to boot. Here's a quick and simple step-by-step procedure to get Ubuntu to add your Devuan (and any other GNU/Linux partitions) to grub: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/12/gru … istros-fix

Before finishing those steps, I would make sure that the os-prober package is installed on your Ubuntu: 'apt policy os-prober'

I tried to figure out the history of the licensing and cc-by-whatever last year when you and I were hacking on it, but it looks like that rabbit hole goes down further than what I explored previously. It's possible that the icons themselves are copyrighted under one creative commons license and that the distro packages are gpl but they are just the installers for going out and grabbing those icons?

I probably won't do another Libre-antiX respin with them for the time being, or unless I can contact the original artist and clarify the status.

They did a literal tribute to Black Sabbath with the short piece "Iron Gland" from the same 1992 album "Dirt" - https://piped.kavin.rocks/watch?v=GUFf_DRCpkE

Why would a new distro that strives to be "simple", "clean", and to "eliminate legacy cruft" use gnome I wonder?

Musl would be nice except Void's been doing it for years so we already know there's a bunch of important programs that won't work right with it. dinit is a very nice touch.

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Big news, I'm really stepping up my dwm ricing game - I changed my wallpaper again:

I'm really going to miss that blackhole anonymous online persona who [checks notes] rage quit after the moderators belittled his/her/their juvenile attempts to intimidate them.

I really came here to report that the 'startxfce4' command really does start the xfce4 desktop without any other manipulations or gyrations, and that it does put you in a user-owned xorg, and that it's not just for cave persons. But that's kind of off-topic so I'll stop talking about stupid computer stuff and eat my popcorn while watching hoas put miyo through a "political beliefs inquisition".

Or just 'sudo sysv-rc-conf' and disable slim or lightdm, which is what I did, what I like to call 'the easy way'.

Or just be a normal person and write a ~/.xinitrc file with 'exec dwm' (or whatever your wm/desktop is), or with xfce4 just use the 'startxfce4' command instead of 'startx'.

... in another 15 years when Wayland is ready for most use cases ...

"Credo" by Karl Barth, probably the most impactful theologian since Calvin and Luther. Trying to get a better understanding of him. Barth's critics accuse him of promoting universal salvation, but that seems to be a misreading, as Barth talks about universal "hope" of salvation, a very different thing. Barth believes that Christ's atoning sacrifice was sufficient for all, and that our job is to respond in faith and not reject that atoning work. This would seem consistent with the Biblical passages that say Christ died once for all, and the concept in Mark 3:28-29, where Christ said, ““Truly I say to you, all sins shall be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they utter; but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”-...” (NASB). Don't reject the ongoing sanctification work of the Holy Spirit, don't assign the product of that work to demonic forces.

I'm not convinced yet, and Barth's critics on this point are the large majority in evangelical Christianity, so if I decide to become a proponent then I'm going to have my apologetics work cut out for me.

I've done plenty of patching and ricing and tinkering in the past, but eventually I found I was happiest and most productive with vanilla. It does have slstatus running with date and time though, it's just that the screenshoting program was on monitor #2 so this wasn't the monitor in focus. And I like having a systray for a couple of items I occasionally use, so I usually do the systray patch. Not much else. Picom for terminal transparency so I can see the pretty wallpapers. I like your setup though - nice colors, nice layout, very pleasant and comfortable looking. I don't know why you would spend your time trying so many other desktops and wm's when you have something so nice already.

Wow!!! I know you aren't one to write down all your steps. But you should really write down all your steps, so some of the rest of us can try this. Maybe start a new thread?