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This is a comparison between my new Byte3 (5 inches square, which is just over 12 cm, and 4 cm high) using neowofetch, and my 10-year-old Lenevo (16 x 4 inches and 12 inches high) using neowatch (latter is no longer in excaliber/Debian-13 as no longer supported):
The byte3:
alexk@star
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OS: Devuan GNU/Linux 13.2 (excalibur) x86_64
Host: Byte 1.0
Kernel: 6.12.57+deb13-amd64
Uptime: 1 hour, 4 mins
Packages: 1570 (dpkg)
Shell: bash 5.2.37
Resolution: 1920x1080 @ 60.00Hz
DE: Xfce 4.20 (x11)
WM: Xfwm4
WM Theme: Default
Theme: Clearlooks-Phenix-Sapphire [GTK2/3]
Icons: Deepsea [GTK2/3]
Cursor: DMZ-White [GTK2/3]
Terminal: xfce4-terminal
Terminal Font: Monospace 12
CPU: Intel 3 N355 (8) @ 3.9GHz
GPU: Intel Graphics]
Memory: 1.60 GiB / 31.19 GiB (5%)
Network: 1 Gbps
BIOS: coreboot 0.0 (12/04/2025) The Lenovo:
alexk@ng3
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OS: Devuan GNU/Linux 6 (excalibur) x86_64
Model: 90BJ008CUK Lenovo H30-05
Kernel: 6.12.57+deb13-amd64
Uptime: 4 days, 17 hours, 47 mins
Packages: 3240 (dpkg)
Shell: bash 5.2.37
Resolution: 1920x1080
DE: Xfce 4.20
WM: Xfwm4
WM Theme: Default
Theme: Clearlooks-Phenix-Sapphire [GTK2/3]
Icons: oxygen [GTK2/3]
Terminal: xfce4-terminal
Terminal Font: Monospace 12
CPU: AMD A8-7410 APU with AMD Radeon R5 Graphics (4) @ 2.200GHz
GPU: AMD ATI Radeon R4/R5 Graphics
Memory: 2438MiB / 7362MiBThe byte is so fast that I want to move to it as soon as I can. As always, it is setup that takes the time, but I'm almost there. Installing GBs of Thunderbird's profile will be the final act, and I'll go.
hth
The problems starts when some AMDs are in use on Linux.
As stated above: my old box was AMD64 (a processor actually made by AMD) and was first booted in May 2016 into Devuan. No problems of any kind then nor ever since. What on earth are you talking about? AMD v's intel is a non-starter here, so I'm marking this SOLVED.
I used devuan_excalibur_6.1.0_amd64_netinstall.iso obtained from the devuan excaliber download page. Then dd to setup a 2GB USB stick (wildly oversized; the iso is only 593MB).
sudo dd if=devuan_excalibur_6.1.0_amd64_netinstall.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=1M && syncMy existing screen has a HDMI option, so that was plugged into the Byte, as were an aged Dell keyboard via USB, mouse via USB, a LAN connection to my Virgin Media cable box, the external 18v power via DC jack + the USB stick.
Setup was a doddle:
The first issue was to spot the console warning to access the BIOS at startup. It was "F2", but that was on-screen for a very brief time.
Inside the BIOS it was easy to spot 'choose boot disk', with the internal 2TB SSD or the USB as options after that choice. Choosing 'USB' and 'reboot', everything occurred at astonishing speed afterwards.
My existing box is 10 years old, and one of the main reasons for getting a replacement is the gigabit LAN in the new one. Virgin have upgraded their Cable to an astonishing speed, but the old box was 10/100 LAN & that was the max it could handle. The new box is tiny outside but has 10 x the speed & capacity of the old one.
I was impressed by the intelligence of the setup in the ISO. It spotted my GB location & all the options for LAN setup (lan, wlan + bluetooth). The defaults for disk setup were also intelligent.
Finally, if you have not yet spotted it, only the intelligence of me & the Devuan page is lacking. I'm an ex-internet professional + server admin and yet was flummoxed by "amd64" as the supported architecture.
The Star-Labs Byte3 is working fine with Devuan. My main problem now is the amount of time that it is going to take me to set it up to my liking, so that I can drag myself away from the old box.
Oh good lord! Thank you for a fast reply.
I have a horrible feeling that the answer will be "No".
I've been running Excalibur on my old machine without problems since it was released.
I've bought a Byte computer from Star-Labs:
https://starlabs.systems/pages/byte-specification
It arrived today & I was going to burn an ISO to a USB & install from there. Then I read the Install-Guide on devuan.org:
https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … evuan.html
...and saw the dreaded statement:
Supported architectures
amd64
The Byte machine is an Intel Twin Lake N355. Is there no chance under intel? I truly do not want to submit to the systemD plague by reverting to Debian.
Oh bugger. My bad. It never occurred to me when I placed the order.
This is sources.list within the Upgrade to Excalibur page (devuan.org):
"Modify sources.list to look like the one provided. Comment out all other lines."
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur main deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-updates main deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-security main #deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-backports main
Then, just to confuse you (Devuan is good at shooting itself & you in the foot), the page says:
Just add the non-free-firmware, non-free and contrib components to the appropriate line(s) in /etc/apt/sources.list as required:
deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
It is the last line above that you need within sources.list, with duplicate lines added for excalibur, excalibur-updates, excalibur-security + excalibur-backports as required. I would suggest the 1st 3 initially, and all 4 if you are comfortable adding backports.
[added later]:
Here is my sources.list for Excaliber:
$ grep ^[^#] /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-updates main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur-security main non-free-firmware non-free contribhth
$ apt info libdvd-pkg
Package: libdvd-pkg
Version: 1.4.3-1-1.1
Priority: optional
Section: contrib/utils
Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers <debian-multimedia@lists.debian.org>
Installed-Size: 89.1 kB
Provides: libdvdcss-dev, libdvdcss2
Depends: debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, build-essential, wget | devscripts, debhelper-compat (= 13)
Recommends: libcap2-bin
Download-Size: 16.9 kB
APT-Manual-Installed: yes
APT-Sources: http://deb.devuan.org/merged excalibur/contrib amd64 Packages
Description: DVD-Video playing library - installer
This package provides libraries that are needed for playing video DVDs
with a media player (such as VLC, SMplayer, Totem, etc.). It automates
the process of downloading source files, compiling them, and installing
the binary packages.So, it *is* available & is inside contrib.
And Dev1palaxy.org finally hits spam central. Been expecting it from all the noise recently.
This turned out to be a bad dkms for a SDR device (software driven radio, which I do not use anymore) & was fixed like this (install following the purge):
$ sudo apt purge xtrx-dkms14 updates made after including new firmware. Seems ok so far.
Interim update:
The ODT load on a 600 page document has become so high as to freeze LibreOffice and, on a couple of occasions, also freeze Devuan solid.
$ lscpu | fgrep 'Model name'
Model name: AMD A8-7410 APU with AMD Radeon R5 GraphicsWork is in process to reduce that load.
The following has been completed:
All Direct Paragraph Style have been changed for other styles (mostly Text Body)
[note: in 24.8 “Text Body” has been renamed to “Body Text”]
Each Heading x style (levels 1, 2, 3 + 4) contains a Text-Box (TB) at the far-right as an extra visual clue. Each TB has been swapped out for a Frame
[styles: H1Frame, H2Frame, H3Frame + H4Frame]
The following is still in process:
DrawObjects are being swapped out for PNG images
Several hundred Direct Formats with a FreeMono font are being swapped out with a self-created “Console” Character Style
[the original PDF described this style as “Lightface”]
Just like slugs, Bugs leave sure-fire notice of their existence.
On document load the page count (Status Bar at bottom left) would vary wildly from moment-to-moment
The DrawObjects would move location, often across pages as well as within them, and that could also be within the page header or footer. From observation I believe that it may be this latter that caused the freeze-ups.
(added 20 Nov) Images + Tables would also move location through the text from their original place.
(added 20 Nov) In the Navigator (F5) Tables, Images, DrawObjects, etc.would be listed out-of-order from their position in the text-flow
Under 7.4.7.2 it currently takes 14 seconds after document load for the system load to fall from 30% to a trivial level. Before the changes above it *never* fell below 30%.
(added 20 Nov): After vast amounts of work to create "Proper" styling, a freshly-loaded document takes 10 seconds before the load falls below 30% (an extra 4 seconds saved on earlier work)
4_paragraph-fix.odt was a dead end. So I began again with 1_Programming-In-Python3.odt:
Opened 1_Programming-In-Python3.odt in AppImage 7.2.3.2
(normal load, NOT 30%)
Used existing lines in Title page (currently styled as Direct Paragraph) to create styles Subtitle 1, (2, 3)
(using f11 | Styles actions | New Style from Selection); thus no line on Title page now has Direct formatting
Shift+Ctrl+S (save-as) to 2_paragraph-fixes.odt
Changed Text Body style to "Below paragraph: 0.50 cm" + single line spacing
(this matches the original pdf closely)
Changed default list + indent to Text Body Indent
My intention at this stage was to discover what it was that was freezing LO solid (and once froze the entire system solid). I *did* find it (a bug in 7.2.3.2, so not the original issue). First, a quick word about 'Direct Paragraph' style + Text-Boxes (TB) in H1, 2, 3 & 4 paragraphs:
The Direct Paragraph Style is the base style for all other paragraph styles. Thus, modifying that Style will affect every other paragraph in the entire document, which may (or may not) be what you want. I was also informed that using it directly as a Style throughout a document increases the processing load due to lack of caching.
Each Heading in the pdf contains a stylistic |||| for H1 headers, ||| for H2 headers, and so on. I used a TB to create these. I was advised to use a Frame instead. So what's the issue here?
TB can NOT be assigned a Style, whereas Frames CAN be assigned a Style. We are going to discover a very weird bug with these TB when we reach H2 edits. Frames also have a bad bug associated with them, but that is for later.
The next stage in these edits is to swap out each header TB for a Frame:
Each H1 TB was swapped out for a Frame
(no problems)
Each H2 TB was swapped out for a Frame
(I did it Chapter-by-Chapter; no problems until I reached Chapter 15)
The "Dialog-Style Programs" (p568) + "Main-Window-Style Programs" (p574) (ODT, not PDF) each have a TB that has a daeafb Colour applied to the Area (I do not recall applying them)
Changing the TB Area from Colour to None then showed the following option within menu:Edit: "Undo: Sort Shapes"
Attempting to Save the change produced the following Error (below), which then prevented any attempt to save the document
The identical change to the identical document under 7.4.7.2 showed zero problems
Write Error
Error in writing sub-document content.xml
Wot a blooming nightmare.
The changes made to this point DID allow 'normal' 7.4.7.2 to open document with ordinary load after some short moments processing. Battered & bruised I continue.
There is one main route that requires a reboot, and that is following install of a new kernel. The kernel will need installing at bootup (the only time it gets installed) and the process to that requires an initramfs, which makes a setup from RAM & at the end loads the kernel, etc., etc. initramfs is always specific to a specific kernel.
Here is some user-level info on the setup device:
dpkg -l initramfs-toolss
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version Architecture Description
+++-===============-=============-============-================================>
ii initramfs-tools 0.142+deb12u1 all generic modular initramfs generaI assume that a bug-report here needs to be to Debian. I could not find an easy way to do that (they use an auto-report which expects you to be using Debian). Any advice?
This sorry tale continues.
To re-iterate: somewhere within a 600 page Writer ODT is *something* that has triggered a weird bug.
A long-time expert on the ask.libreoffice.org website fingered my use of "Default Paragraph Style" as one source for system slowdown (should be "Text Body" / "Body Text" instead). I set out to change every one of the thousands of 'ordinary' (not indented, or list, etc) Default-paragraphs to Text Body-paragraphs. Having got almost halfway through those manual changes, I have:
Discovered that LO-7.6.7.2 allowed access to edit + save the odt, although the system was at 30% load throughout
Changing the 43 paragraphs in the 'Introduction' / save / re-open caused all the excess load to go away
Restarting LibreOffice (after no further changes) the load was back
Reaching page 113 of 599 with edits the excess load goes away again.
Simply restarting LibreOffice (no further changes) and the load is back.
Restarting computer then LibreOffice at page 233, after changing 3 paragraphs LibreOffice freezes & has to be dismissed with prejudice (ps aux | fgrep -i libreoffice then kill -9 4112 4171).
At some page before this LibreOffice froze so hard that the entire computer system also froze; it required Ctrl+Alt+F1 (go to the command-line) | login | startx | restart computer)
I can't take much more of this.
Why? You're running an uncommon driver for uncommon hardware, on a backported kernel.
Expect this class of problem with new kernels and out-of-tree drivers.
I'm not certain about the 'uncommon hardware' bit, but I accept your sentiments.
First time this has happened to me. Frightened the shit out of me when I got to the boot screen!
Installed yesterday Saturday 9 November 2024, although the config file is dated different:
$ $ la /boot/config-6.10.11+bpo-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 276562 Oct 3 21:43 /boot/config-6.10.11+bpo-amd64Error immediately after install whilst (from memory) DKMS module build. Reboot into the new kernel failed & I have to boot from the old kernel. I cannot find anything on the web about this. Difficult to believe that I am the only one.
Here is the top of the install script output that failed:
Setting up linux-image-6.10.11+bpo-amd64 (6.10.11-1~bpo12+1) ...
/etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms:
dkms: running auto installation service for kernel 6.10.11+bpo-amd64.
Sign command: /lib/modules/6.10.11+bpo-amd64/build/scripts/sign-file
Signing key: /var/lib/dkms/mok.key
Public certificate (MOK): /var/lib/dkms/mok.pub
Building module:
Cleaning build area...
make -j4 KERNELRELEASE=6.10.11+bpo-amd64 -C /lib/modules/6.10.11+bpo-amd64/build M=/var/lib/dkms/xtrx/0.0.1+git20190320.5ae3a3e-3.2/build.....(bad exit status: 2)
Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 6.10.11+bpo-amd64 (x86_64)
Consult /var/lib/dkms/xtrx/0.0.1+git20190320.5ae3a3e-3.2/build/make.log for more information.
Error! One or more modules failed to install during autoinstall.
Refer to previous errors for more information.
dkms: autoinstall for kernel: 6.10.11+bpo-amd64 failed!
run-parts: /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms exited with return code 11
dpkg: error processing package linux-image-6.10.11+bpo-amd64 (--configure):
installed linux-image-6.10.11+bpo-amd64 package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1...and here is the top of the error-log for the xtrx build:
$ head /var/lib/dkms/xtrx/0.0.1+git20190320.5ae3a3e-3.2/build/make.log
DKMS make.log for xtrx-0.0.1+git20190320.5ae3a3e-3.2 for kernel 6.10.11+bpo-amd64 (x86_64)
Sat 9 Nov 14:45:35 GMT 2024
make: Entering directory '/usr/src/linux-headers-6.10.11+bpo-amd64'
CC [M] /var/lib/dkms/xtrx/0.0.1+git20190320.5ae3a3e-3.2/build/xtrx.o
/var/lib/dkms/xtrx/0.0.1+git20190320.5ae3a3e-3.2/build/xtrx.c: In function ‘xtrx_uart_do_tx’:
/var/lib/dkms/xtrx/0.0.1+git20190320.5ae3a3e-3.2/build/xtrx.c:472:28: error: ‘struct uart_state’ has no member named ‘xmit’
472 | xmit = &port->state->xmit;
| ^~
/var/lib/dkms/xtrx/0.0.1+git20190320.5ae3a3e-3.2/build/xtrx.c:473:13: error: implicit declaration of function ‘uart_circ_empty’; did you mean ‘uart_lsr_tx_empty’? [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration]
473 | if (uart_circ_empty(xmit))My situation at the end of the last post proved to be a false dawn when I restarted since the 30% load was back & did not go away. No changes at my end yet the bug was back. I carried on updating the paragraphs regardless.
Whilst still in the process of fixing all normal paragraphs (by changing them to being styled with "Text Body" rather than "Default Paragraph Style") I've just reached "Chapter 3 Collection Data Types" (page 113 out of 599) and, finally, the system load has switched yet again from being at a constant 30% (1 of the 4 cpu cores constantly fully occupied) to a more normal 2%.
Reaching this state has been my goal. I've done these changes before & reached this blissful condition on that occasion. In my ignorance I thought that all my problems were over until, after many more changes, the whole thing suddenly completely froze up.
On the previous occasion I had zero idea as to what change triggered the LO freeze. This time I am monitoring the results of the changes that I make much more carefully.
Wish me luck.
PS
I got Kernel 6.10 installed from bpo today & that had a harsh computer bug. I could not restart into the kernel because of some blasted error. I had to restart into the old kernel. Together with these LO issues it all seemed completely normal.
A significant report to make:
Some folks reported that it opened fine in old versions of LO:
PedroReina :: LO-5.0.0.5
Babarosa :: LO-7.6.7.2
I had a strong suspicion that the mantra of 'use the newest version' may be skew-whiff (winXP v winVista, anyone?)
From LO AppImages listing I downloaded & installed "LibreOffice-7.2.3.2.basic-x86_64.AppImage"
It was pointed out to me on ask lo org that I was "using Direct Paragraph Formatting instead of Body Text" and that "Direct formatting puts stress on Writer because every occurrence must be handled individually whereas style effects can be cached and reused at will"
3_new.odt loaded up under 7.2.3.2 & allowed me to operate LO
(the load was still 30%, but this time I had full access to LO).
I modified the Text Body style to single line-spacing
(that matches the original document closely).
Ctrl-h gave Search+Replace. Using "Paragraph Styles" I searched for "Default Paragraph Style" & replaced with "Text Body"
Changing only the paragraphs within the Introduction I saved as 4_paragraph-fix.odt, closed then re-opened.
Opening 4_paragraph-fix.odt again all the excess load was magically gone. Good Lord.
Added later:
Going to re-open 4_paragraph-fix.odt I thought to open 7.4.7 & see if it would also open the ODT at less than 30% load. It turned out to be worse than that. LO froze up. What?
Opening 24.8.2 the ODT was at 30% load but *did* allow access to ODT.
I'll change the rest of the paragraphs & see what happens.
Note 1:
In 24.8.2 "Text Body" style has been changed to "Body Text"
Note 2:
The above is the 2nd time that I've been through all this. The first time I changed not just the plain paragraphs but also Tables & SideBars. I got about halfway through & changed something (do not know what) that caused the load to go through the roof & freeze LO solid (this was under 7.2.3.2). This time I'm re-doing it from the beginning, going slowly & saving damn near every minute.
Thanks to rolfie & Babarosa for your responses.
I decided to go with an AppImage since that offered the opportunity to use a later version without changing any of the currently installed LO elements. It turned out to be not so much of a success (and then more of a success, see below).
I went through the following steps:
$ cd /usr/local/bin
$ sudo wget https://appimages.libreitalia.org/Libre … 4.AppImage
$ sudo mv LibreOffice-fresh.standard-x86_64.AppImage LibreOffice-24.8.AppImage
$ sudo chmod a+x LibreOffice-24.8.AppImage
$ LibreOffice-24.8.AppImage --help
LibreOffice 24.8.2.1 0f794b6e29741098670a3b95d60478a65d05ef13
$ sudo cp /usr/share/applications/libreoffice-startcenter.desktop /usr/share/applications/loappimage-startcenter.desktop
$ sudo nano /usr/share/applications/loappimage-startcenter.desktop
(I changed the .desktop name + all Exec lines to begin /usr/local/bin/LibreOffice-24.8.AppImage, but pretty much every else was left unchanged)
The new launch link was immediately within menu:Office | LO AppImage Start Centre & showed the correct LO version.
I launched 3_new.odt and GOOD LORD yes! I was able to navigate around the file & travel from top to bottom.
It was still troubling. LO was having problems with the page display at the bottom of the file. The number of pages showing in the Status Bar at bottom left, and also on each page, kept changing. In addition, Figure 15.1 (it is an image & can be viewed safely in the PDF) kept appearing at the top of the bibliography & also other pages, each one well out of place.
Since it seemed stable I asked for the file to be saved. Everything seemed fine & at a normal speed until almost at the very end, when LO & the screen froze. It stayed like that for some time & I had to force-close it. So, no change.
I did not make any changes to the file before saving.
Ran the whole thing again as to be able to discover the name of the image that kept appearing out of order near the bottom of the file (Fig 15.1) (it kept shifting in the display from page-to-page from moment to moment). I noticed that a single core (1 of 4) was active all the time. Also, that the LO version was GTK.
Then I noticed that the usage had dropped from 30% to a more-normal figure. I tried Save again & this time LO both saved it & also completed. I was able to shut the program down normally.
Whoo-hah! This version of LO is hardly working the way that it is supposed to with an ODT, but it seems that I may have use of the file back again, so many thanks to all who responded.
The following pages were also of assistance:
Update Nov 7: display fixes
Daedalus backports has 24.8.2
OK, now I'm confused.
That is why I did an 'apt search', so that I could get advised of the range of different LO versions available. And it only offered me 7.4.7. Yet I've already got backports in my listing:
$ grep ^[^#] /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-proposed-updates main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list:deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-backports main non-free-firmware non-free contrib
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/josm.list:deb https://josm.openstreetmap.de/apt/ alldist universeI run an update every day, but I've never been offered 24.8.2.
So, how would I tell it to update from backports (or have I pinned it somehow)?
Added later:
I've looked at the search listing (which is huge) more closely & have discovered a number of bpo, but the main element appears missing. Here is the closest:
libreoffice-uiconfig-writer/stable-backports 4:24.8.2-1~bpo12+1 all
UI data ("config") for LibreOffice Writer
What I mean by 'main element' is a straightforward "libreoffice-writer" etc, which is present for 7.4.7 but not 24.8.2. I think that an error has been made.
I think that I shall try to install an AppImage & pray that there are no systemD viruses tucked in there.
Hi Babarosa.
Your post is the most hopeful for me so far.
I've tried "apt search libreoffice" & absolutely everything that came up is 7.4.7 (same as I currently have).
How did you install 7.6.7? Is it installed concurrent with 7.4.7 or instead of?
It sounds crazily ironic that v5.0.0 & v7.6.7 both can open this ODT yet v7.4.7 freezes solid.
Hi Ron.
Couple of things:
No time to do the copy/paste before LO freezes
One of the bugs I found (listed at the bottom of GitHub) is that Tables encapsulated in a Frame are missed on a Copy. So it wouldn't even transfer accurately if I could copy/paste.
I couldn't wait, so asked LO to start 3_new.odt, started my smartphone stopwatch & waited.
There are 4 cores in my Desktop machine, and I noted that one of them was 100% occupied all the time. Just once across the next 25 minutes I noted that processing had switched to a different core.
I had decided that I was willing to give it 25 minutes.
Too often I've been in situations where a process has gotten stuck & I could have waited for eternity & never had obtained satisfaction. This seemed like one of those.
After 25 minutes I force-closed it.
Thanks stargate, but I do not think that waiting for startup is any fix for this one.
Thanks stargate, I'll pay attention to that & discover whether it will become responsive again (if so, perhaps the no-Contents production was an identical issue).
However, all that will have to take a back-seat. I've got pressing issues coming up shortly, and will have to attend to those first.