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#1 Re: DIY » So I guess there's no getting around having to use GTK3 and Wayland? » 2023-11-25 23:19:22

sorry but this thread has less substance than my breakfast that i did not have
why is wayland bad and what is the problem with gtk3?

dont get me wrong, i would prefer if everything would work with motif and xenocara, but i understand the drama

#2 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Forge OS » 2023-11-01 13:45:21

wow this took waaay longer than i planned
but it is finally here: Forge v2023-11


this may very well be the final version
i definetly need a break from this project
and i dont know when or if i will return

with that out of the way, here are the news:
boot time reduced by 10%
improved user friendliness
files on the desktop (jwm)
more from the good things
less bad things
all new and shiny
overall smoothness increased by 200%
hotness also increased by a factor of 10
the price stayed the same smile

since dbus is now dependency-chained to xorg, i had to pin seatd to chimaera

as always this is experimental software, i am not a porfessional, use at you own risk
but i think it works pretty well on 10 year old hardware big_smile

#3 Re: DIY » Question, about dd and/or qemu, for disk cloning » 2023-09-15 23:14:21

you can copy the whole disc and then shrink the qcow

#6 Re: Off-topic » We all aware the interweb is problematic, deranged, imbalanced. » 2022-11-06 15:01:20

this is not your personal blog
how this thread is still up is beyond me

the only way, the internet goes poof is when there is a power outage
no low-level tools will help you in that case

#7 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] full-upgrade: » 2022-10-02 19:31:17

that is a mirror

what is the output of

cat /etc/apt/sources.list

#8 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » undesireable Motherboard config changes to time and fan settings » 2022-05-20 20:14:18

Now this is not a fix for the cause, but it could fix the fan problem if it is an option for you...
I once had a problem with a pc that the cpu fan would always run at 100% speed,
this was a problem with coreboot and had nothing to do with linux or the system time,
but i could fix the fan issue with a cheap fan controller board that measures temperatur and powers the fan, independent from the system.
Its not pretty, it does not fix the cause, but the fan works how it should.


#9 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Forge OS » 2022-04-14 14:54:16

I just uploaded version 22-04

There is no complete list of changes, but here are the highlights:

  • alacritty replaced urxvt

  • lossless-cut replaced vidcutter

  • antimicrox replaced qjoypad

  • yt-dlp replaced youtube-dl

  • magnifiqus replaced xzoom

  • qps is the default task manager again

  • new emulators: visualboyadvance-m, bsnes and bsnes-plus

  • and rom patchers flips and lazy_ips

  • Cardinal as new virtual modular synthesizer lv2-plugin

  • there was a bug in the installer that got fixed

  • /usr/local/bin/ now has a '--auto' option, to automatically set the system time

  • some scripts in the jwm menu got fixed and i added new ones (set date format, change conky color and toggle to maximize all windows)

  • syslinux bootloader now looks for the symlink /boot/vmlinuz, it will update automatically when a new kernel is installed (/etc/kernel/postinst.d/yy-bootlink)

  • OBS will now start, if your pc does not support GLSL >3.3

  • other new applications are zbarcam-qt to scan qr-codes and crazydiskinfo to check s.m.a.r.t parameters

  • qutebrowser will delete .local/share/qutebrowser/webengine before it starts, this prevents a rare case where it will always freeze

  • conky will now only show battery and wifi info, if those are present on your system

more changes can be seen here … cd98499bd1

#10 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Forge OS » 2022-04-01 08:39:48

if you are using jwm, there is a theme option in the right-click menu
if you do mean the darkpurple/orange theme, that is still there
or do you mean the terminal theme?
i am not really shure which theme yoou want
i did change the qt theme from yaru to adapta, because yaru looked different in chimaera
the gtk theme has always been snowblind-sunset
if you can tell me exactly what you are looking for or have a screenshot, i will see what i can do

#12 Re: Installation » [SOLVED] Backported kernel update » 2022-03-19 22:02:20

why not use the standard kernel?

sudo apt install -t chimaera linux-image-amd64

#13 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Forge OS » 2022-03-11 18:22:12

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The old isos are no longer available,
Forge is basically the same, but upgraded to chimaera and with improvements on the installer and other scripts
if you are looking for a specific script or config file, you can find them here on gitlab

#14 Documentation » HOWTO: Manual Wifi roaming multiple networks (no network-manager) » 2022-03-05 14:22:06

Replies: 1

In this guide, I want to show how to manually setup your wireless lan connection, so your laptor automatically connects to the network nearby.
If you are using the network-manager service, you don't need any of this.

1 - make sure '/etc/network/interfaces' contains the following lines, where wlan0 in this case is the name of the network adapter

iface default inet dhcp

allow-hotplug wlan0
iface wlan0 inet manual
	wpa-roam /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf

2 - if you don't have '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf ', create it and make sure only root can acces it because it will contain your passwords

sudo touch /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
sudo chown root:root /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
sudo chmod 600 /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf

3 - to get the stanza's for your network, copy the output of the following command to /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf


Here is an example how /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf should look.
For networks that use the same ESSID, add the mac address and optional a priority.

# for documentation see:
# less /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples/wpa-roam.conf
# zless /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz  
# zless /usr/share/doc/wpa_supplicant/README.modes.gz


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#15 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » qtsystems5-dev » 2022-02-02 12:13:27

 apt show qtsystems5-dev 
Package: qtsystems5-dev
Version: 5.0~git20181230.e3332ee3-4+b3
Priority: optional
Section: libdevel
Source: qtsystems-opensource-src (5.0~git20181230.e3332ee3-4)
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers <>
Installed-Size: 265 kB
Depends: libqt5publishsubscribe5 (= 5.0~git20181230.e3332ee3-4+b3), libqt5serviceframework5 (= 5.0~git20181230.e3332ee3-4+b3), libqt5systeminfo5 (= 5.0~git20181230.e3332ee3-4+b3), qtbase5-dev
Tag: devel::library, role::devel-lib
Download-Size: 50.6 kB
APT-Sources: chimaera/main amd64 Packages

i have it on chimaera
maybe you have to enable backports

#16 Re: Off-topic » Boot iso from hard disk » 2022-01-11 14:36:32

You could use a mini pci-e to usb card, if you have a free slot
There are also cards that can take two micro sd cards

#17 Re: Off-topic » Happy Holidays & Merry Christmas » 2021-12-29 19:37:47

i have some disc shaped magnets here wink

#18 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Alternative browser for Devuan/Debian - Brave » 2021-12-27 18:25:36

aitor wrote:

DEB packages of version 78.15.0 are available at:
I announced them yesterday night in the irc channel. It looks good in chimaera:

is this a fork of icecat?
according to, the last version is 60.7.0 and was realeased june 2019

#19 Re: Devuan Derivatives » refracta_11_xfce_i386-20211114_0205.iso » 2021-12-26 01:54:03

  • The hard way:
    Make a live-CD with live-sdk by fsmithred

  • The easy way:

    sudo refractasnapshot-gui

    click on Help if you need insturctions or just select the first option and give it a try
    make sure you have enough free space: if your system is 20GB in size you need another 20GB for the copy + a few gigs for the squash and the iso file

#20 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [SOLVED] NumLock on at boot time, possible? » 2021-12-25 18:56:42

Check your bios options, sometimes there is an option to set numlock at boot.

#21 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Ugly fonts in JWM after upgrade » 2021-12-06 22:46:01

There are multiple lines where you can set the font in .jwmrc

<!--	┏┳┓┏━╸┏┓╻╻ ╻   ┏━┓╺┳╸╻ ╻╻  ┏━╸	 -->
<!--	┃┃┃┣╸ ┃┗┫┃ ┃   ┗━┓ ┃ ┗┳┛┃  ┣╸ 	 -->
<!--	╹ ╹┗━╸╹ ╹┗━┛   ┗━┛ ╹  ╹ ┗━╸┗━╸	 -->

<!--	╻ ╻╻┏┓╻╺┳┓┏━┓╻ ╻   ┏━┓╺┳╸╻ ╻╻  ┏━╸	 -->
<!--	┃╻┃┃┃┗┫ ┃┃┃ ┃┃╻┃   ┗━┓ ┃ ┗┳┛┃  ┣╸ 	 -->
<!--	┗┻┛╹╹ ╹╺┻┛┗━┛┗┻┛   ┗━┛ ╹  ╹ ┗━╸┗━╸	 -->
<WindowStyle decorations="flat">
  <Font align="center">Dejavu-11:antialias=true:encoding=utf8</Font>

<!--	┏┓ ┏━┓┏━┓   ┏━┓╺┳╸╻ ╻╻  ┏━╸	 -->
<!--	┣┻┓┣━┫┣┳┛   ┗━┓ ┃ ┗┳┛┃  ┣╸ 	 -->
<!--	┗━┛╹ ╹╹┗╸   ┗━┛ ╹  ╹ ┗━╸┗━╸	 -->
<TrayStyle decorations="flat">




if nothing changes there is probably a syntax error somewhere

#22 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Forge OS » 2021-11-05 18:38:56

LarryDC wrote:

Some observations:
1 - The script seems to have an error:
line 2 :

should be:

2 - no longer finds LATEST_VERSION
My kludge is to insert the following as line 22:

Hi Larry,
thanks for helping to improve this project.
The file extiension for the wallpaper was dropped on purpose, when i made the new gui wallpaper chooser ( themes > wallpaper > select wallpaper )
but i see that i forgot to change that in the "old" way.
This command should fix it for now:

sed -i 's:WP=".local/wallpaper.png":WP=".local/wallpaper":' ~/.config/jwm/dynamic/

You should try the gui wallpaper changer if you have not discovered it yet, its way more elegant

I noticed the qutebrowser update problem too (and the one for shotcut), on monday i did upload a new iso where this is fixed
but no need to reinstall the whole thing, i uploaded all relevant scripts on gitlab just now.
Actually i did update more of the scripts so the best thing would be to just copy the .local/Script directory and overwrite everthing that has changed

git clone
cp -R forge-dotfiles/.local/Scripts/* .local/Scripts

In the beowulf release this would be done automatically with 'update_all' but i decided to drop that feature.
From now on you will be able to see new gitlab commits in newsbeuter (super + , )
the rss feed should already be there, you can refresh the list with 'r'

Edit: also to get the calendar working, create .config/kalendar directory

#23 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Forge OS » 2021-10-25 16:25:59

tuxnoobfr wrote:

please can you clone goodlifelinux? it was so lightweight and it only had a few programs installed by default sad

Sorry i am not going to clone a distro that i never heard of, and lightweight in terms of disk usage is not my motto
you can easily make your own devuan iso with refractasnapshot

tuxnoobfr wrote:

I was never able to get wifi or wired working with all the derivatives on here, I know you guys don't spoonfeed newbies but jessie has been archived for a while

if you post some more details about that on irc or in the forum, i am pretty sure someone will help you

#24 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Forge OS » 2021-10-18 23:31:43

Hey Larry i am glad that you like it

LarryDC wrote:

I'm going to try and stick to your zsh since you've got so much added to it.

If you would rather use bash, you could just try chsh to bash, i have not tested this very well but the files that get sourced by zsh, also get sourced by .bashrc
and all scripts use sh anyway, so it should be mostly the same in theory, i just prefer the zsh's tab-complete.

LarryDC wrote:

As an aside: Is there any way of getting a small donation to you? Or do I have to wait until you visit the Boston area And I can take you out to dinner? wink

Thanks, i dont take donations, but if you would throw a fiver or something to someone who really needs it, that would be awesome.
Sadly i dont think i will be around Boston in the near or later future, but i will message you in that case

Let me know if there are any issues.

I personally have encountered 2 problems, that we could discuss here
I guess since this is not mentioned elsewhere i throw it in here
1) Scanning for wifi networks with Ceni now takes ages, it used to be a few seconds
i dont have a solution for this, but i also added setnet to the iso
2) i have one machine where i needed to manually setup the graphics driver in xorg.conf because it would not use the correct one although it is installed
but that machine is a strange beast anyway, it works great on all my thinkpads and my desktop

PS: Thanks to the person behind JWM-Kit! i forked you wallpaper tool and i love it
PPS: And also thanks to fsmithred for refracta and also to the whole Devuan team!

#25 Re: Devuan Derivatives » Michaels Devuan Edition *Update* » 2021-10-17 15:59:03

The project continues now under a new name:
Chimeara Iso will be uploaded today!

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