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#1 Installation » Problems after dist-upgrade from jessie to ascii » 2018-01-14 23:33:56

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Hi folks,

my goal is to switch von Devuan jessie to ascii. I had a Devuan installation before with Xfce and MATE and made some experiments with apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade, but the results were not trustworthy somehow.
So I made a fresh install of Devuan with Xfce today and repeated my dist-upgrade. Here's how I did it:

First, I logged in as normal user, started the terminal (in Xfce Desktop Environment), and switched to root (su).

Second, changed sources.list to use ascii packages:

deb ascii main 
deb ascii-security non-free main 
deb ascii-updates non-free main 

Third, performed

apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade

During dist-upgrade already some errors came up:
There were dependency problems with dpkg package (and one or two others) and some folders couldn't be deleted because not empty, these, for example:
- etc/udev/rules.d
- etc/udev
- etc/kbd
- var/lib/initramfs-tools
- ...

Then I wondered why my sources.list has grown by the two following lines I never added myself. What's the difference to pkgmaster and why were these lines added?

# Devuan repositories
deb ascii non-free main  
deb-src ascii non-free main

Then I restarted the system, it successfully started again but I noticed that I cannot start synaptic as my "normal" user anymore (when starting via terminal, it says command not found). It works only in terminal when I switch to root. Maybe some permissions are broken, but why?

Additionally, during the starting process I noticed three situations where the system is idle/hanging (no HDD actions) for several seconds and I don't know what exactly the OS is doing here.
1. While it logs [....] Waiting for /dev to be fully populated...[   16.092224] [drm:drm_atomic_helper_commit_cleanup_done [drm_kms_helper]]
*ERROR* [CRTC:26:pipe A] flip_done timed out
the system seems to be idle for about 10 seconds but seems to change the video mode meanwhile.
2. After it logs Starting slim: slim system hangs about 10 seconds, then the WLAN LED starts blinking the first time and then the login screen appears. (For testing, I disabled automatic WLAN connection and after restart I had the same idle time, so WLAN doesn't cause the problem here)
3. After logging in, the desktop background appears and, the system seems to hang (no hdd) for about 5 seconds, the mouse cursor appears and then the system is idle again for 15 seconds! After that the all desktop elements like taskbar and icons are drawn.

Summarized, the starting process takes about 30 seconds longer than before the dist-upgrade due to the idle times.
[Edit: Searched the internet and checked dmesg. The idle times seem to be caused by a kernel bug. Have kernel 4.9.0-5-amd64 now, had probably 3.x before]

That was much of text now and I don't expect a solution for everything now, but appreciate your support even if it only helps to solve one thing...

#2 Re: Installation » Downgrading Ascii back to Jessie » 2018-01-12 22:12:49

@shirase: May I ask why you want to go back to jessie? Did you have problems with ascii? (I'm asking because I'm thinking about upgrading to ascii...)

#3 Re: Installation » Possible to installing Mixxx2.0 from backports? » 2018-01-12 18:25:53

So, you mean I should remove all jessie repositories from the sources.list and replace with ascii, right?
But this way I think I will have a complete upgrade to ascii, which means all packages are updated, right?

Is it really necessary to make a complete dist-upgrade or is it possible to get a newer version of a certain software only?

#4 Installation » Possible to installing Mixxx2.0 from backports? » 2018-01-12 00:25:22

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I am new to Devuan (not brand-new to Linux, ran LMDE before). I successfully installed Devuan yesterday and wondered why in the stable repositories lots of packages are up to three years old.
For some software this is not a problem, but I wish to have some in newer version.

My sources.list is

deb jessie contrib non-free main  
deb-src jessie contrib non-free main  

# jessie-security, previously known as 'volatile'
deb jessie-security non-free contrib main  
deb-src jessie-security non-free contrib main  

# jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb jessie-updates non-free contrib main  
deb-src jessie-updates non-free contrib main  

# jessie-backports, previously on
# deb jessie-backports non-free contrib main 
# deb-src jessie-backports non-free contrib main 

For example I want to have Mixxx 2.0.0 (open source DJing solution). I already installed 1.11.0 from stable jessie repositories, but in the backports I found the current version 2.0.0.
I decommented the jessie-backports lines (and had to comment-out jessie lines) to get 2.0.0 displayed in synaptic:
Screenshot Synaptic
But it shows an exclamation mark and is not able to resolve the dependencies.

What can I do now? Where can I get all needed packages for mixxx 2.0.0? Can I get it from ascii?



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