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#1 Re: Devuan » Next Release Date? » 2017-01-16 14:06:56

Thanks too, admin.

I've been waiting for Devuan to become non-beta so I can install it on customers' (eg, "people paying me money") machines, as they are understandably very wary of having anything labeled as "beta" running on a production server.

I'm completely aware that Devuan Beta works great already, and in fact I'm using it in a number of my own production systems -- but try explaining that to the PHB^H^H^Hcustomer... :-)

Seriously, Devuan *needs* a final, non-beta release so it can move beyond hobbist/enthusiast/personal installations and take the entire world by storm as it should.

Cheers,
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#2 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2016-12-18 14:42:37

Thanks for the update, @MiyoLinux, much appreciated. I'm continuing to use MIYO here and I am very much happy with it, sorry to hear abot your health issues... :-/

Cheers,
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#3 Devuan Derivatives » Any relation between Devuan and antiX/MX? » 2016-12-18 14:08:10

Vall
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Hello folks,

Is there any relation between Devuan and the antiX distro (or its MX derivative, which I understand is a collaboration between antiX and the MEPIS project)?

I ask because I just found out about AntiX and MX, and it announces itself as "Debian 8.5 (jessie), but systemd-free!"[1].

Seems very similar to Devuan, which is why I ask this question.

Thanks in advance for any clarifications,
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[1] http://antix.mepis.org/

#4 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2016-12-09 17:34:35

Howdy FSmithRed,

Fancy meeting ya here ;-)

fsmithred wrote:

It didn't lock up. It was waiting for you to close the cfdisk window. That's just the way the script is written. I should add a message somewhere that tells you to do that. (It's on the todo list now.)

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My suggestion would be for the script to close the window automatically if cfdisk terminates with a 0 exit code, but a message would be better than nothing.

3) The default filesystem to format the system partition was shown as ext2 (of course I chose ext4). Was that intended?

No. Normally, no filesystem is highlighted when the window comes up. At least that's how it is for me when I run it.

OK, so I'm possibly mistaken, but I remember the ext2 being highlighted. OTOH, perhaps it was just the first option so I "automatically" saw it as the default.

4) I have a swap partition but it doesn't show in the "Select a partition for swap" dialogue (in fact, this window doesn't show anything). I closed it (again, clicking on the X) and ran mkswap manually on a separate terminal window. It showed me a "you did not choose a swap partition" window, to whch I clicked "OK", and the installation seemed to proceed OK, (fortunately) instead of looping back to the "choose a partition for swap" dialogue.
EDIT: after the installation, I found out MIYO created and was using a "/swapfile" instead of the partition I created. I fixed it manually.

If you had a partition set aside for swap, but it still needed mkswap run on it, then it won't show up. The command the script uses to find existing swap partitions is

/sbin/blkid |grep swap | awk '{print "\n" $0 }'

Again I could be mistaken, but I remember running mkswap on it in a separate window.

5) After selecting all the timezone/locale/keyboard options, the system seemed to lock up in a black window (only showing "refractainstaller-yad" on top), with no blinking dots, progress bar, nothing. I saw that it was not a real lock-up because (contrary to #2 above) the HD access LED was blinking... but at least a "Doing something, please wait...." message would probably help the newbies.

The next thing that runs after the pre-install scripts (timezone, etc.) is the cleanup function. Maybe it took some time to unmount something? Just a guess. If you feel like repeating the experiment, run 'refractainstaller-yad -d' and pastebin the error log (/var/log/refractainstaller_error.log) or email it to me if you prefer.

I have a refractainstaller.log, but generated via the normal MIYO install (so, no "-d" I presume). If I ever install it using its installation procedure again, I will be sure to do it manually and supply that switch (usually I just install a new OS via its install once, then I generate a tarfile of the whole she-bang and install using my own manual method from them on).

Cheers,
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#5 Re: Devuan Derivatives » [MiyoLinux] New Releases Uploaded » 2016-12-09 15:12:44

Howdy everyone,

Just downloaded and installed MIYO-120316 in a VirtualBox VM, prior to wiping a netbook here to run it on.

Here's a few notes/observations/suggestions:

1) Please consider adopting a "YYYYMMDD" format for versions, instead of the apparent "MMDDYY" as above. Not only is the former an international standard for dates (therefore removing unneeded anglicisms) but when there are multiple versions spanning multiple months and years, it will sort much better on anyone's ls/download screen. :-)

2) Using the "expert" install with disabled "Use UUID (...)" and enabled "use existing swap (...)" and "write zeroes (...)" and "run cfdisk", it locked up here right after partitioning on the "Syncing disks" screen. This is 100% reproducible, and the only way out is closing the "cfdisk" window by clicking on its "X" top-right frame button. Installation seemed to resume  OK from there, but I reset the machine and started it over just in case.

3) The default filesystem to format the system partition was shown as ext2 (of course I chose ext4). Was that intended?

4) I have a swap partition but it doesn't show in the "Select a partition for swap" dialogue (in fact, this window doesn't show anything). I closed it (again, clicking on the X) and ran mkswap manually on a separate terminal window. It showed me a "you did not choose a swap partition" window, to whch I clicked "OK", and the installation seemed to proceed OK, (fortunately) instead of looping back to the "choose a partition for swap" dialogue.
EDIT: after the installation, I found out MIYO created and was using a "/swapfile" instead of the partition I created. I fixed it manually.

5) After selecting all the timezone/locale/keyboard options, the system seemed to lock up in a black window (only showing "refractainstaller-yad" on top), with no blinking dots, progress bar, nothing. I saw that it was not a real lock-up because (contrary to #2 above) the HD access LED was blinking... but at least a "Doing something, please wait...." message would probably help the newbies.

6) After a long time (probably because of my choosing the "write zeroes (...)" above), I got a couple more dialogues about setting passwords etc, then it said it was finished. Removed the install media as advised and reset the machine, MIYOlinux seemed to come up all right.

I'm just starting my tests, but I like what I see so far: just 135MB RAM used, lightweight indeed! (at least for those perverted times we're living)

@MiyoLinux, thanks for taking the time to make MIYO available, and I hope you find this report useful.

Cheers,
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