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19:19:08 <rkta> alsa is not listing my pc speaker. How can I change the sound level? It's very loud.
19:20:52 <hagbard> If alsa knows it, then you can set the volume with alsamixer.
19:21:05 <hagbard> Or do you mean the Mainboard beeper?
19:21:41 <hagbard> Its loudness can't be set.
19:30:13 <rkta> the mainboard beeper. Iirc I had it as an alsa channel on other devices, but not in this one.
19:32:37 <hagbard> I think it can only be an alsa channel, if it's not an actual classical physical beeper, but is emulated by the sound chip/driver.
19:35:11 <rkta> that makes sense
19:35:54 <hagbard> An actual pc-speaker would just be a tiny bit of hardwired hardware, with no way to influence its level by software.

20:54:54 <leitz> Trying to update a node, and getting "release file for .... is not valid yet". How do I either remove that repo, or is there another option?
20:56:16 <hagbard> Is maybe your clock way off?
20:57:48 <hagbard> that would explain getting a date in the "future"
20:59:02 <hagbard> I there's a problem with a specific repo mirror, choosing a different one would help: https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt
20:59:17 <leitz> yup, thanks. On boot, it didn't have internet connectivity. Rebooting, to see if ntp starts up on its own.
21:19:44 <leitz> Date was still off, chrony was not installed. Fixed the latter, which fixed the former, and the upgrade is in progress.
21:20:37 <leitz> It's an old Dell E6500, having issues. I have to look at an i801_smbus transaction timeout error, and figure out why trying to look at Firefox settings locks up the computer.

22:47:49 <leitz> If I want to blacklist a module, but there is no /etc/modprobe.d directory, is it okay to create it?
22:57:25 <debdog> leitz: I'd say yes.
23:00:12 <leitz> looks like I'm blind, it was there. I wrote blacklist.conf, but to no avail. Do the modules need to be in their own files?
23:00:52 <leitz> And hey, debdog, thanks! My chat screen still showed the last time you answered a question for me. :)
23:03:40 <debdog> no, one .conf can contain more than one module. just to be certain, you have a "blacklist $module_name" and a new line in there?
23:04:08 <debdog> I did?
23:05:06 <leitz> debdog, yeah, it was a few weeks ago.
23:06:34 <leitz> So, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf didn't stop the boot error. Neither did single files nor putting "install <module> /bin/true".
23:07:36 <leitz> I'm not sure if it's related, but on build it asked for a "regulatory.db" for some non-free hardware. No idea how to go about that.
23:15:38 <devuanconsumer> Hi guys. I installed devuan on a new system with a ryzen 7950x processor with an integrated GPU. I have the following issues: 1) no temps are showing up 2) small resolution due to not being able to find graphics drivers for it on synaptic. I tried sudo sensors-detect without success. I also tried installing the packages without success: amd64-mirocode, firmware-amd-graphics, sudo sensors-detectand running What is the repository to try new
23:15:39 <devuanconsumer> kernals?
23:17:11 <devuanconsumer> should I try the backports or the experimental?
23:18:59 <divad27182> with new devices... you might need to wait a few months for linux to implement things...
23:19:22 <devuanconsumer> ryzen 7950 was released at the end of september
23:19:27 <devuanconsumer> so must i wait 6 months or a year?
23:19:41 <divad27182> possible
23:19:58 <divad27182> there should be something, but you might be missing some bits for a time.
23:21:54 <divad27182> and you might need to wait longer for it to be in a distribution kernel
23:22:11 <devuanconsumer> should I simply try both backports and experimental?
23:22:14 <divad27182> checking Linux 6.0.11 for "7950" now
23:22:41 <devuanconsumer> how can I do what you're doing
23:23:18 <divad27182> Well, in this case, I downloaded the 6.0.11 kernel a day or so ago, and unpacked it.
23:23:32 <divad27182> now I CDed into the source tree and ran: find . -type f -exec grep 7950 {} +
23:23:44 <divad27182> download from www.kernel.org
23:24:03 <devuanconsumer> how do i install it?
23:24:09 <devuanconsumer> im a newb lol
23:24:11 <devuanconsumer> compared to u
23:24:15 <divad27182> you might just try googling "linux" and your CPU model
23:27:15 <divad27182> for the sensors... You might try looking to see if you have anything in /sys/class/thermal/
23:32:39 <devuanconsumer> ok I will look into it
23:33:06 <leitz> How do I totally blacklist i2c_i801 and i2c_smb modules? Can I just remove the i2c packages?
23:33:06 <divad27182> four instances so far of "7950" in sources, at least one more expected. None relevant.
23:34:04 <divad27182> you can blacklist a module by putting a blacklist line in a file matching /etc/modprobe.d/*.conf
23:34:19 <leitz> divad27182, so far that's not working.
23:35:32 <divad27182> I think I've seen that once or twice. I think you might need to remove (or rename) the files in /lib/modules/....
23:52:49 <divad27182> leitz: I think there is a requirement the filename end in .conf in this case.
23:53:13 <devuanconsumer> @divad, I looked inside the sys/class/thermal and there are 31 components there it looks the same as on my pc where sensors are detected
23:54:15 <divad27182> assuming some where thermal_zone*, those should report temperatures.
23:55:30 <divad27182> not sure where else to look...
23:55:59 <divad27182> hard drives may require another package to report their temps.... at least, they used to.
23:56:28 <devuanconsumer> how do I install this https://github.com/ocerman/zenpower
23:56:30 <devuanconsumer> for devuan
23:56:33 <devuanconsumer> i'm a newb
23:56:36 <devuanconsumer> please check out this link
23:56:42 <divad27182> there are 3 other pieces of hardware called a "7950" that I've seen in the kernel
23:57:54 <divad27182> with caution....
23:58:35 <divad27182> that appears at first glance to be a kernel mod/patch...
23:59:53 <divad27182> so the first step is to get a working kernel source build....
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00:00:16 <divad27182> well... and as that hasn't changed sine 2020, I would not expect it to work for your CPU.

00:00:37 <divad27182> on the other hand, if it is a matter of IDs, you might be able to whitelist something
00:07:40 <devuanconsumer> ok so I restarted with the new 6.0.0.0 driver from synaptic package after adding experimental and backports to sourceslist and it booted up with more sensors
00:07:51 <devuanconsumer> now i am seeing tctl and tccd1 and tccd2
00:07:54 <divad27182> devuanconsumer: In any case: you asked how to install that. The ubuntu instructions have a good chance of working (ubuntu could be callsed a sibling distribution to devuan).
00:08:02 <devuanconsumer> they seem to be the cpu temps
00:08:30 <divad27182> seems possible.
00:08:40 <divad27182> newer kernels support newer CPUs.
00:08:50 <devuanconsumer> thank you for the help man
00:08:52 <devuanconsumer> this is good enough
00:09:00 <devuanconsumer> i don't care about the resolution apu for the 7950
00:09:07 <devuanconsumer> it sucks its only 1000x700
00:09:11 <devuanconsumer> because no graphics driver
00:09:13 <devuanconsumer> but thats fine
00:09:15 <divad27182> well
00:09:19 <devuanconsumer> i just want to see the temps for this mining rig
00:09:23 <devuanconsumer> they're for mining :)
00:09:27 <divad27182> that might just be a matter of find the right driver to install
00:09:29 <devuanconsumer> i want to overclock
00:09:43 <devuanconsumer> i already tried all of them in the synaptic manager
00:09:47 <divad27182> or even just parameterize it right
00:09:57 <devuanconsumer> even though shitty resolution, i can play 4k videos while mining
00:09:58 <divad27182> synaptic just installs packages.
00:10:13 <divad27182> now load the right module into the kernel... or parameterize it right
00:10:25 <devuanconsumer> i need practical instructions lol
00:10:45 <divad27182> well...
00:11:13 <divad27182> check out the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
00:11:23 <divad27182> it may tell you about your video system.
00:12:33 <devuanconsumer> ok
00:12:43 <devuanconsumer> is there a command i can run
00:12:45 <devuanconsumer> i don't remember
00:12:47 <divad27182> make sure your monitor is better than the resolution you are seeing, as the card/OS may not be willing to do better than the monitor
00:12:58 <devuanconsumer> my monitor is definitely good
00:13:07 <devuanconsumer> display port 1.4 and hdmi 2.0
00:13:17 <divad27182> I think there is readedid, but I think that tells you about the monitor.
00:14:12 <leitz> divad27182, I had already added a blacklist.conf to /lib/modules.d
00:14:20 <u-amarsh04> my /etc/X11/xorg.conf just has the following 4 lines:
00:14:25 <u-amarsh04> Section "Device"
00:14:27 <u-amarsh04> Identifier "Radeon Cape Verde"
00:14:28 <u-amarsh04> Driver "amdgpu"
00:14:29 <divad27182> You could try gvidm and see what it offers for resolutions
00:14:29 <u-amarsh04> EndSection
00:14:48 <divad27182> leitz: I think it may be modprobe.d not modules.d
00:14:57 <u-amarsh04> the text in quotes on the Identifier line doesn't really matter
00:15:57 <u-amarsh04> and my /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf blocks radeon as I use amdgpu:
00:15:59 <u-amarsh04> blacklist radeon
00:16:45 <divad27182> devuanconsumer: What u-amarsh04 is saying is probably a good solution for you.
00:17:29 <u-amarsh04> but also, I build my own kernels
00:17:30 <devuanconsumer> i am only using the integrated graphics on 7950x
00:17:34 <devuanconsumer> no radeon graphics card
00:17:38 <devuanconsumer> no discrete graphics card
00:17:46 <devuanconsumer> no nvidia graphics card
00:18:05 <divad27182> didn't amd buy radeon?
00:18:08 <u-amarsh04> that 7950x apu should still use the amdgpu module
00:18:17 <devuanconsumer> which one is that
00:18:19 <u-amarsh04> AMD bought ATI
00:18:25 <devuanconsumer> what package?
00:18:29 <devuanconsumer> in synaptic
00:18:31 <divad27182> not packages.
00:18:38 <devuanconsumer> what module?
00:18:39 <divad27182> edit files, maybe reboot.
00:18:52 <devuanconsumer> specific instructions please :)
00:18:59 <leitz> divad27182, you're right, I just mistyped.
00:19:06 <u-amarsh04> amdgpu is a kernel module, should be all kernels over the last several years
00:19:50 <divad27182> so put a line reading "amdgpu" (no quotes) in file /etc/modules
00:20:19 <divad27182> then put the four lines u-amarsh05 showed into /etc/X11/xorg.conf
00:20:31 <u-amarsh04> and make sure that you have the package: xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu installed
00:20:57 <divad27182> yes, then do "modprobe amdgpu", then restart your X server.
00:21:13 <devuanconsumer> how do i restart x server
00:21:37 <divad27182> might be enough to logout and back in.
00:21:49 <divad27182> might need to "kill" the server.
00:21:58 <divad27182> might need to reboot.
00:22:16 <divad27182> for a newb, if not too inconvenient, I would say reboot.
00:22:24 <u-amarsh04> yes, when I log out of the graphical desktop, the desktop manager restarts the X server
00:23:38 <u-amarsh04> if you are still having issues, checking /var/log/Xorg.0.log may help
00:25:12 <devuanconsumer> ok let me try
00:33:20 <divad27182> I have another thought about those sensors. You said you had installed "sensors-detect". Did you run "sensors-detect"? It doesn't try to detect sensors just because you've installed it.
00:40:31 <u-amarsh04> will be idling, after 2am here
00:41:52 <divad27182> 10AM here - need to get breakfast.
00:42:56 <devuanconsumer> Here is my log info u-amarsh04 https://pastebin.com/9XUtuc5d
00:50:43 <divad27182> did you get the lines entered into /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
00:54:55 <divad27182> (The pastebin doesn't show any evidence of "amdgpu")
01:05:18 <devuanconsumer> ok great now i busted my computer
01:05:29 <devuanconsumer> after rebooting with all the fixes
01:05:34 <devuanconsumer> it's asking for "gklogin 01"
01:06:03 <devuanconsumer> "gk01 login:"
01:06:10 <devuanconsumer> how do i fix this :/
01:06:41 <devuanconsumer> i did all of this : /etc/X11/xorg.conf just has the following 4 lines:
01:06:41 <devuanconsumer> Section "Device"
01:06:41 <devuanconsumer> Identifier "Radeon Cape Verde"
01:06:41 <devuanconsumer> Driver "amdgpu"
01:06:41 <devuanconsumer> EndSection
01:06:43 <devuanconsumer> <u-amarsh04> and my /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf blocks radeon as I use amdgpu: blacklist radeon
01:06:45 <devuanconsumer> divad27182> put a line reading "amdgpu" (no quotes) in file /etc/modules
01:07:23 <devuanconsumer> divad27182: and u-amarsh04: please help
01:07:32 <divad27182> ok... that much is promising.
01:07:57 <divad27182> did you <u-amarsh04> and make sure that you have the package: xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu installed
01:08:09 <devuanconsumer> yes
01:08:17 <devuanconsumer> it was already installed
01:08:29 <devuanconsumer> in the etc/modules
01:08:35 <devuanconsumer> what was the file name
01:08:36 <divad27182> OK. login
01:08:37 <devuanconsumer> i added one
01:08:44 <devuanconsumer> i don't understand how to login
01:08:51 <devuanconsumer> "gk01 login:"
01:08:54 <devuanconsumer> how?
01:09:05 <divad27182> that is the login prompt, text mode variant.
01:09:15 <devuanconsumer> so how do i login though
01:09:20 <devuanconsumer> i don't know lol
01:09:27 <divad27182> you enter your username. Then it prompts for password
01:09:35 <devuanconsumer> ok before i do that
01:09:47 <devuanconsumer> put a line reading "amdgpu" (no quotes) in file /etc/modules, what was the name of the file suppose to be for this
01:09:57 <devuanconsumer> i added a file for modules.d
01:10:08 <devuanconsumer> named amdgpu.conf and added amdgpu
01:10:23 <divad27182> actually, the filename is "/etc/modules"
01:10:26 <divad27182> no .d
01:10:29 <divad27182> no subdirectory.
01:10:36 <devuanconsumer> lol
01:10:37 <divad27182> just a simple list
01:11:42 <divad27182> in any case, you need to get logged in, go find /var/log/Xorg.0.log
01:11:47 <divad27182> and see what the errors are
01:12:00 <divad27182> why X failed to start
01:12:06 <devuanconsumer> well
01:12:13 <devuanconsumer> i logged in and it didn't login to desktop
01:12:26 <devuanconsumer> it continued in the text mode
01:12:30 <divad27182> right. No X -> no desktop.
01:12:39 <devuanconsumer> how do i get desktop?
01:12:45 <divad27182> start X.
01:12:57 <devuanconsumer> do i type start X?
01:13:05 <devuanconsumer> "start X" without ""
01:13:09 <divad27182> which means first: find out why X did not start.
01:13:16 <divad27182> so: no desktop for now.
01:13:34 <devuanconsumer> so what do i type in the text mode
01:13:49 <divad27182> try: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
01:14:13 <divad27182> you need to look for lines with EE (or maybe FF) in the front
01:16:09 <divad27182> Some will be problems, some not.
01:17:03 <divad27182> (apparently it doesn't use FF... so just "(EE)" lines)
01:17:17 <divad27182> probably near or at the end
01:17:47 <devuanconsumer> it says there's a parse error "section" is not a valid keyword in this section
01:17:55 <devuanconsumer> problem parsing the config file
01:18:00 <devuanconsumer> error parsing the config file
01:18:04 <devuanconsumer> no screens found
01:18:22 <devuanconsumer> this is for the xorg.conf
01:18:47 <devuanconsumer> > etc/X11/xorg.conf
01:19:05 <divad27182> ok. that file's syntax is painfully critical.
01:19:06 <devuanconsumer> can i edit the xorg.conf from the text line?
01:19:25 <gnarface> devuanconsumer: note, sensors are in the package "lm-sensors"
01:19:25 <divad27182> yes. What editor's do you know? and have installed?
01:19:39 <gnarface> devuanconsumer: (you have to install that first then run sensors-detect)
01:21:36 <gnarface> for the xorg.conf try editing it with nano
01:21:43 <gnarface> that's probably the simplest choice
01:21:58 <devuanconsumer> ok but how do it get the terminal text to remove the command
01:22:11 <devuanconsumer> i mean to clear what i brought up
01:22:12 <divad27182> q
01:22:46 <gnarface> q to exit less, also q to exit man pages; "man xorg.conf" for syntax details on that file
01:23:11 <gnarface> note letter-case matters in that file
01:23:14 <divad27182> at this point.... you might be better off finding someone who knows linux to come in and help you.
01:25:01 <gnarface> devuanconsumer: example amdgpu device section (note that the string in "Identifier" has to match the string in "Device" under the "Screen" section: https://paste.debian.net/1262835/)
01:25:12 <devuanconsumer> ok so i opened it with nano
01:25:19 <gnarface> the strings in VendorName and BoardName don't matter
01:25:39 <divad27182> Does it match what you pasted before?
01:25:39 <gnarface> there's a bunch of other options but you probably don't need them right now
01:25:48 <divad27182> or are there punctuation or spelling errors?
01:26:20 <gnarface> it has to be "Section" not "section" too, be careful
01:26:43 <divad27182> right... "painfully critical"
01:26:57 <devuanconsumer> ok let me try
01:26:57 <divad27182> case matters on everything not quoted.
01:27:19 <gnarface> well, case matters on some of the quoted stuff too like "amdgpu"
01:27:30 <divad27182> true
01:27:59 <divad27182> the amount of whitespace doesn't matter. The presence does. "End Section" is not the same as "EndSection"
01:28:20 <devuanconsumer> what am i looking for under man xorg.conf
01:28:20 <divad27182> but it is OK to write:
01:28:29 <divad27182> Driver "amdgpu"
01:28:48 <gnarface> devuanconsumer: for xorg.conf you should read the whole thing, but ignore it for now just copy my example
01:29:09 <devuanconsumer> ok copy your example from the pastebin
01:29:15 <divad27182> But in your case, I think you may have written "section" instead of "Section"
01:29:22 <gnarface> that's what it sounds like to me
01:31:18 <divad27182> next obvious question: are you using xdm, gdm, kdm, or something else. Once you've edited and saved, you can do "invoke-rc.d xdm start" (or whichever other one you are using) to try to start the desktop.
01:31:20 <gnarface> or forgot to close a previous section or something like that
01:31:41 <divad27182> I suspect only one section at this point.
01:35:06 <devuanconsumer> ok so i rebooted and it didn't work
01:35:29 <gnarface> checked the xorg log again, if you made any meaningful change the error will also be different
01:35:35 <divad27182> OK. Login, read Xorg.0.log again
01:35:39 <devuanconsumer> ok
01:36:24 <divad27182> The invoke-rc.d variant will be faster than a reboot, and leave you where you were if it doesn't work.
01:36:44 <gnarface> yea but it probably has to be restart or stop then start not just start
01:37:05 <devuanconsumer> the error is the same
01:37:10 <divad27182> actually... you are right....
01:37:35 <devuanconsumer> "Section" is not a valid keyword
01:37:47 <gnarface> devuanconsumer: alright, you're gonna want to learn this stuff yourself eventually but if you put the whole xorg.conf in paste.debian.net i'll proofread it for you
01:38:12 <devuanconsumer> yeah im trying to learn lol
01:38:37 <devuanconsumer> i'm not sure how to put everything from xorg.conf in debian past if i only have textmode
01:39:00 <devuanconsumer> can't i just delete everything in xorg and reboot
01:39:08 <divad27182> that could work
01:39:16 <divad27182> assuming it was empty to begin with
01:39:21 <gnarface> it might work, but it might work without using the amdgpu driver
01:39:42 <gnarface> give it a try but you might end up missing out on hardware accel (the log file changes will make it obvious)
01:39:42 <divad27182> right. You might not get the resolution.
01:40:06 <gnarface> if the log file still doesn't change after that you're probably looking at the wrong log file
01:40:42 <divad27182> possible, but that would imply he is running multiple X servers
01:41:07 <gnarface> no if it's an upgraded system it could just be the change from running suid root to running as own user
01:41:20 <devuanconsumer> lol it worked!
01:41:24 <gnarface> it can have moved from /var/log/Xorg.0.log to ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log and left behind the old log
01:41:26 <devuanconsumer> i am learning haha
01:41:38 <gnarface> devuanconsumer: check the log now to see if amdgpu shows up at all
01:43:58 <divad27182> well... good luck
01:48:32 <gnarface> the best way to learn how to make a custom xorg.conf in your case is to read the man page for xorg.conf and the man page for amdgpu while looking at some examples in the wild that are known to work
01:48:44 <gnarface> (and your error log of course)
01:49:08 <gnarface> in my case it wasn't necessary to put the amdgpu module in /etc/modules but it was for several other modules for me so ymmv
01:49:21 <gnarface> you might also need a boatload of mesa libraries to make all the hardware accel work right
01:49:38 <gnarface> everything you need is in the repo though, just don't go downloading packages from 3rd party location
01:51:13 <devuanconsumer> ok here are the pastes
01:51:34 <devuanconsumer> https://pastebin.com/VL6TzN2W
01:51:35 <devuanconsumer> https://pastebin.com/gqc4TpvR
01:51:46 <devuanconsumer> one is for the log and the other the man xorg.conf
01:53:34 <gnarface> devuanconsumer: sorry i don't trust pastebin
01:54:12 <gnarface> you're gonna have to either just /msg it to me here or figure out how to use paste.debian.net somehow if you want me to look
01:54:44 <gnarface> if your gui is up now it shouldn't be a problem
01:57:39 <devuanconsumer> ok do u prefer the paste.debian.net?
01:57:52 <gnarface> doesn't really matter but that'll be faster
01:58:15 <devuanconsumer> https://pastebin.com/VL6TzN2W
01:58:16 <devuanconsumer> https://pastebin.com/gqc4TpvR
01:58:22 <gnarface> that's still pastebin
01:59:02 <gnarface> if you /msg it to me you just have to wait a minute for it to come through due to rate limiting
02:01:42 <devuanconsumer> oops sorry
02:01:43 <devuanconsumer> lol
02:01:53 <devuanconsumer> my daughter is sick and i thought i copied and pasted it right
02:02:51 <devuanconsumer> https://paste.debian.net/1262838/
02:02:52 <devuanconsumer> https://paste.debian.net/1262839/
02:02:54 <devuanconsumer> here they are
02:03:22 <devuanconsumer> i also just added amdgpu to the etc/modules
02:03:26 <devuanconsumer> i didn't have that part right
02:03:37 <gnarface> ok, these are two identical pastes of the bottom of the xorg.conf man page, i already have a copy of it installed here so i don't need to see that
02:04:08 <gnarface> what i want to see is your actual xorg.conf attempt and the Xorg.0.log from before and after you deleted the xorg.conf
02:04:18 <gnarface> so that'd be 3 total links
02:04:43 <gnarface> if you don't have the older log still that's fine
02:07:21 <devuanconsumer> ok let me see
02:08:02 <devuanconsumer> i took a picture of the log before
02:08:10 <devuanconsumer> is there a website u trust i can add it to?
02:08:54 <devuanconsumer> this was my conf attempt Section "Device"
02:08:55 <devuanconsumer> Identifier "Radeon Cape Verde"
02:08:55 <devuanconsumer> Driver "amdgpu"
02:08:55 <devuanconsumer> EndSection
02:09:43 <devuanconsumer> oh i see pastedebian has a file
02:09:46 <devuanconsumer> feature
02:15:21 <gnarface> that was really the only thing in your xorg.conf?
02:15:29 <gnarface> no other lines besides that?
02:15:33 <onefang> Finally got JACK sorted out. The audio setup on my super desktop is complex. Though the last thing solved was "jiggle this cable a bit to get stereo out of that particular port". lol
02:15:57 <onefang> Now to try out all that wonderful audio and MIDI software.
02:16:14 <gnarface> onefang: you might want to disable "Auto-Mute Mode" in alsamixer if furnished, it can cause trouble
02:16:52 <gnarface> i had a problem with it triggering at the wrong time due to loose connections
02:16:54 <onefang> Haven't spotted that yet.
02:17:14 <gnarface> if jack takes over your alsamixer view like pulseaudio does, you'll have to make sure it's not running first
02:17:18 <onefang> Not using alsamixer anyway.
02:17:36 <gnarface> it would be a hardware feature exposed by the driver to alsamixer directly
02:17:54 <gnarface> it may or may not be furnished, but if you're not using a laptop on the go it's probably not worth it
02:18:05 <onefang> I have a Plantronics RIG mini mixer.
02:18:33 <onefang> I said "super desktop", this ain't no lappy. lol
02:19:41 <devuanconsumer> yes that was it
02:20:02 <devuanconsumer> how can i find out what the device identifier is for my APU using the terminal linux
02:20:23 <gnarface> devuanconsumer: the "Identifier" field is arbitrary, you can pick whatever you want
02:20:46 <gnarface> devuanconsumer: what is important is that it matches what's in the "Screen" section, which you don't have but you need
02:21:27 <gnarface> you don't need the whole xorg.conf anymore, you don't need any of it, but if you include some of it, there's a minimum of those two things: a valid "Device" section and a valid "Screen" section
02:22:50 <gnarface> without them, things should work but will probably fall back on the generic modesetting driver which is missing support many of your GPU's best features
02:22:58 <gnarface> support for*
02:23:00 <devuanconsumer> how do i figure out the valid screen
02:23:03 <devuanconsumer> lol
02:23:04 <devuanconsumer> :/
02:23:16 <gnarface> hang on i'll just give you one
02:23:39 <gnarface> what's your display's native resolution?
02:24:36 <devuanconsumer> devuanconsumer@gk01:~$ lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12
02:24:36 <devuanconsumer> libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-config.c:657 kmod_config_parse: /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf line 1: ignoring bad line starting with 'blacklist'
02:24:36 <devuanconsumer> 0f:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device [1002:164e] (rev c1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
02:24:36 <devuanconsumer> Subsystem: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd Device [1458:d000]
02:24:37 <devuanconsumer> Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 255
02:24:39 <devuanconsumer> Memory at fce0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
02:24:43 <devuanconsumer> Memory at fcf0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=2M]
02:24:45 <devuanconsumer> I/O ports at e000 [disabled] [size=256]
02:24:47 <devuanconsumer> Memory at fc900000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
02:24:49 <devuanconsumer> Capabilities: <access denied>
02:24:51 <devuanconsumer> Kernel modules: amdgpu
02:24:53 <devuanconsumer> 0f:00.1 Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device [1002:1640]
02:24:55 <devuanconsumer> Subsystem: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device [1002:1640]
02:24:57 <devuanconsumer> Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 119
02:24:59 <devuanconsumer> devuanconsumer@gk01:~$ xrandr
02:25:01 <devuanconsumer> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
02:25:03 <devuanconsumer> Screen 0: minimum 1024 x 768, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768
02:25:05 <devuanconsumer> default connected primary 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
02:25:07 <devuanconsumer> 1024x768 76.00*
02:25:09 <devuanconsumer> its 1024x768 and i can't edit it to make it higher lol
02:25:13 <devuanconsumer> the display section has no other options
02:25:33 <gnarface> don't you have a manufacturer's manual to verify from?
02:25:48 <devuanconsumer> my amd manual?
02:25:51 <devuanconsumer> yes
02:25:58 <gnarface> for the display
02:26:01 <gnarface> not for the cpu
02:27:03 <devuanconsumer> oh
02:27:23 <devuanconsumer> the highest i have is 2560x1440 (16:9)
02:27:58 <gnarface> does it happen to mention horizontal and vertical refresh ranges in there too?
02:28:01 <devuanconsumer> i am basically switching screens to my main pc and the ryzen one lol
02:28:30 <devuanconsumer> devuanconsumer@devuanrig:~$ xrandr
02:28:31 <devuanconsumer> Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 2560 x 1440, maximum 32767 x 32767
02:28:31 <devuanconsumer> DVI-D-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
02:28:31 <devuanconsumer> HDMI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
02:28:31 <devuanconsumer> DP-0 connected primary 2560x1440+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 597mm x 336mm
02:28:31 <devuanconsumer> 2560x1440 59.95 + 165.08* 144.00 120.00
02:28:33 <devuanconsumer> 1920x1200 59.88
02:28:35 <devuanconsumer> 1920x1080 119.88 60.00 59.94 50.00
02:28:37 <devuanconsumer> 1680x1050 59.95
02:28:39 <devuanconsumer> 1600x1200 60.00
02:28:43 <devuanconsumer> 1280x1024 75.02 60.02
02:28:45 <devuanconsumer> 1280x800 59.81
02:28:47 <devuanconsumer> 1280x720 59.94 50.00
02:28:49 <devuanconsumer> 1152x864 75.00
02:28:51 <devuanconsumer> 1024x768 75.03 60.00
02:28:53 <devuanconsumer> 800x600 75.00 60.32
02:28:55 <devuanconsumer> 720x576 50.00
02:28:57 <devuanconsumer> 720x480 59.94
02:28:59 <devuanconsumer> 640x480 75.00 59.94 59.93
02:29:01 <devuanconsumer> DP-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
02:29:03 <devuanconsumer> DP-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
02:29:05 <devuanconsumer> DP-3 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
02:29:07 <devuanconsumer> DP-4 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
02:29:09 <devuanconsumer> DP-5 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
02:29:13 <devuanconsumer> let me look on the website
02:29:28 <gnarface> careful with multi-line pastes in this channel, you can get kicked by flood protect bot
02:29:39 <gnarface> better to use paste.debian.net for anything over 3 lines
02:30:00 <devuanconsumer> oops :/
02:30:43 <devuanconsumer> here is my monitor : https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-27-curved-gaming-monitor-s2722dgm/apd/210-azzp/monitors-monitor-accessories
02:31:41 <devuanconsumer> I don't see anything about horizontal or vertical refresh rates
02:32:41 <devuanconsumer> Here is the Native Resolution QHD 2560 x 1440 (DisplayPort: 165 Hz, HDMI: 144 Hz)
02:32:43 <gnarface> stand by
02:33:25 <gnarface> it's under the support section
02:33:56 <gnarface> in a pdf, i found it
02:33:59 <gnarface> gimme a minute to type this up
02:35:40 <devuanconsumer> ok thanks you are the bomb
02:35:59 <devuanconsumer> I was looking up xorg.conf file examples on the internet
02:36:07 <devuanconsumer> and was thinking about trying some but i'll go with yours
02:37:56 <gnarface> are you using HDMI or DisplayPort? the refresh ranges are different
02:38:06 <devuanconsumer> hdmi for that one
02:38:19 <devuanconsumer> there is hdmi1 and hdmi2
02:38:19 <gnarface> there's two?
02:38:26 <gnarface> you have two displays at once?
02:38:30 <gnarface> that does complicate things
02:38:36 <devuanconsumer> no i have one display, with two ports
02:38:49 <devuanconsumer> and am using the same display for my main computer and the ryzen 7950
02:38:55 <gnarface> oh i see
02:38:58 <gnarface> ok, whew
02:39:05 <devuanconsumer> is that ok?
02:39:09 <gnarface> yea, try this then: https://paste.debian.net/1262840/
02:39:17 <gnarface> wait, hang on that one isn't perfect
02:39:29 <gnarface> this one: https://paste.debian.net/1262841/
02:39:34 <devuanconsumer> LMAO
02:39:43 <devuanconsumer> take advantage of the sections that don't matter lol
02:40:10 <devuanconsumer> ok so i copy that into the xorg.conf and reboot?
02:41:07 <gnarface> replace your current xorg.conf with that then reboot yes (reboot isn't actually necessary but easier to understand)
02:41:36 <gnarface> if it complains about it or doesn't work, just remove it again
02:41:57 <gnarface> it might want a ServerLayout section but we're trying without for now
02:42:34 <gnarface> some of the optional stuff you still sometimes want to use if you don't like default behaviors but i'm picky about these things
02:42:42 <gnarface> my own xorg.conf is ... exhaustive
02:43:02 <gnarface> here's your monitor manual by the way https://dl.dell.com/content/manual3890536-dell-s2722dgm-monitor-user-s-guide.pdf?language=en-us
02:43:11 <gnarface> you should download that pdf and keep a copy locally
02:43:43 <gnarface> if you switch to DisplayPort later you're gonna want it as a reference
02:44:17 <gnarface> in my experience auto-detect doesn't usually do this stuff perfectly so if you want optimal behavior you still have to be explicit about certain things
02:47:08 <gnarface> also you should install mesa-utils if you haven't already, because it'll pull in most of the critical hardware-acceleration librarires
02:47:11 <gnarface> libraries*
02:47:16 <gnarface> devuanconsumer: ^
02:47:27 <devuanconsumer> thank you. I am waiting for it to load. It's blinking with a _
02:48:01 <gnarface> uh... none of this should have affected boot
02:49:10 <gnarface> is it still just stuck?
02:49:13 <gnarface> ???
02:49:26 <devuanconsumer> yeah
02:49:30 <gnarface> sigh
02:49:34 <gnarface> you had a gui login setup?
02:49:58 <devuanconsumer> it just got stuck after I decrypted LUKS
02:50:06 <devuanconsumer> with password
02:50:17 <gnarface> this shouldn't have affected boot, but if your HDMI cable can't handle the max res it might have affected the GUI
02:50:24 <gnarface> what does ctrl+alt+f2 do?
02:50:51 <devuanconsumer> it prompts me to login through text
02:51:16 <gnarface> oh, well this really should not have changed anything
02:51:26 <gnarface> the boot process doesn't read this file
02:51:32 <gnarface> did you change anything else before rebooting?
02:53:45 <gnarface> if not, you're gonna need to backup the xorg log file and move the xorg.conf out of the way and reboot again
02:53:56 <gnarface> and i will need to see that xorg log to see what went wrong
02:54:36 <gnarface> first guess is your HDMI cable can't carry 2560x1440, i assume it's not one that came with the monitor?
02:55:32 <gnarface> i hope you have another boot disk around, like a live image or the installer disk or just even another machine you can write one from ...
02:55:58 <gnarface> devuanconsumer: ^^
02:56:01 <devuanconsumer> https://ibb.co/cTnNQqH
02:56:08 <devuanconsumer> here is a picture of the error
02:56:10 <devuanconsumer> on the log
02:56:20 <gnarface> sigh, don't trust that either, can you use imgur.com instead?
02:56:28 <gnarface> i have... reasons
02:56:30 <devuanconsumer> YES for sure
02:56:55 <gnarface> wait so you were able to log in after ctrl+alt+f2 or what?
02:57:06 <gnarface> i didn't see you say how you got past the blinking "_"
02:59:49 <devuanconsumer> what other websites do you trust? i can't upload to imgur
02:59:54 <gnarface> note, imgur.com makes it seem like you have to sign up but you do not have to sign up
03:00:04 <gnarface> just click on the upload button on the front and it'll let you post anonymously
03:00:10 <devuanconsumer> yes i logged in to the text version
03:00:37 <gnarface> here do this
03:00:45 <gnarface> move the xorg log to your home directory
03:00:59 <gnarface> then move xorg conf to your home directory too
03:01:19 <gnarface> then reboot again and log in normally and you can just use paste.debian.net for the error as normal
03:01:21 <gnarface> make sense?
03:02:10 <gnarface> you might actually just be able to get the GUI up by running "startx" though after moving the xorg.conf out of the way
03:02:20 <gnarface> don't delete it, just back it up somewhere
03:02:35 <gnarface> a full reboot should not typically be necessary
03:03:00 <gnarface> but make sure whatever you do that you back up the log too so we can see it, because when you start the gui again it'll be overwritten
03:03:29 <devuanconsumer> https://imgur.com/a/BoxSFN8
03:03:59 <gnarface> none of those are errors, that's all fine
03:04:03 <gnarface> scroll down to the bottom
03:04:15 <gnarface> you're looking for lines with (EE) in them, specifically
03:06:11 <devuanconsumer> ok
03:06:21 <devuanconsumer> it says no screen found
03:06:31 <devuanconsumer> screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section
03:06:39 <gnarface> hmm
03:06:48 <devuanconsumer> devices detected, but none match those in the config file
03:06:57 <devuanconsumer> no screens found
03:07:07 <gnarface> ok, stand by, revision 2 coming
03:07:13 <devuanconsumer> please check the log file for additional revisions
03:07:20 <devuanconsumer> so is the screen name incorrect?
03:07:35 <gnarface> you might just be able to delete the line: Identifier "Screen0"
03:07:52 <devuanconsumer> ok i can do that
03:08:14 <gnarface> try that while i work on a more complete config file for you
03:10:33 <devuanconsumer> i tried it and rebooted. It didn't work
03:10:39 <devuanconsumer> It loaded the text login screen
03:10:49 <gnarface> different error though right? what error?
03:11:00 <devuanconsumer> let me check
03:12:45 <devuanconsumer> it says problem parsing the config file
03:12:47 <devuanconsumer> no screens found
03:12:58 <devuanconsumer> error parsing the config file
03:12:59 <gnarface> ok, stand by, just cleaning up something based on my config
03:13:10 <devuanconsumer> you have a paypal?
03:13:13 <devuanconsumer> you've helped me a lot
03:13:17 <devuanconsumer> let me send you something ;P
03:14:13 <gnarface> https://paste.debian.net/1262850/
03:14:15 <gnarface> here, try this config
03:15:14 <gnarface> and actually when you try that, REMOVE the "amdgpu" from your /etc/modules file, i'm really not sure it should be preloaded like that, i vaguely remember it could cause problems
03:15:29 <gnarface> but use this xorg.conf verbatim
03:15:43 <gnarface> you should not have needed to blacklist "radeon" either just fyi
03:16:09 <gnarface> i can't be sure that won't cause problems either
03:16:22 <gnarface> but at least this xorg.conf file shouldn't have any parse errors or missing sections
03:16:33 <devuanconsumer> ok so i'll undo all the changes they had me do and copy your xorg.conf
03:16:54 <gnarface> yes
03:16:59 <gnarface> did you install mesa-utils already?
03:17:16 <devuanconsumer> i will if its not on boot up
03:17:17 <devuanconsumer> let me try
03:17:44 <gnarface> i am not sure what all changes you made, don't uninstall anything, just remove the blacklist of radeon and the preload of amdgpu
03:18:14 <gnarface> we're trying to match my working systems here as closely as possible
03:19:00 <devuanconsumer> no other changes made
03:19:29 <devuanconsumer> i left the synaptic packages default (AMD/Radeon)
03:19:30 <devuanconsumer> its booting now
03:19:51 <devuanconsumer> oops
03:20:04 <devuanconsumer> i mean my computer is loading just barely going to login to put changes in xorg
03:28:26 <devuanconsumer> do i need to have mesa-utils-extra installed?
03:28:38 <devuanconsumer> what about firmware-amd-graphics
03:28:48 <devuanconsumer> mesa-utils was already installed
03:28:50 <devuanconsumer> after this i reboot
03:29:58 <gnarface> you do need firmware-amd-graphics, i don't have mesa-utils-extra should not be necessary... other stuff you might be missing is just for some games (vulkan libraries might not be present by default but "mesa-utils" should have got you everything for most opengl and video i think)
03:30:39 <gnarface> if you have mesa-utils and firmware-amd-graphics i think none of the other missing mesa stuff should affect xorg just coming up right
03:31:40 <gnarface> it would just be for like wine or support for certain video players/codecs that might be missing in addition to that
03:31:44 <gnarface> i think you're good to reboot
03:33:09 <gnarface> if i'm wrong the xorg log will let you know
03:33:48 <devuanconsumer> yes
03:33:57 <devuanconsumer> it's saying that i need it while loading stuff
03:34:23 <devuanconsumer> ok let me install and try again
03:37:06 <gnarface> devuanconsumer: here's the ones i have installed, ignore versions (i'm on unstable) and :i386 duplicates (they're for wine and steam) https://paste.debian.net/1262855/
03:37:45 <gnarface> main parts of the base package names should be mostly unchanged for you though
03:40:17 <gnarface> particularly, make sure you have libgl1-mesa-dri and libgl1-mesa-glx, but i had assumed mesa-utils or firmware-amd-graphics would get those for you already
03:41:52 <divad27182> still at it, I see.
03:42:21 <gnarface> yea :-/ always a struggle the first time
03:45:26 <devuanconsumer> fuck
03:45:35 <devuanconsumer> now it freezes and doesn't even login
03:46:04 <devuanconsumer> here is a picture
03:46:11 <devuanconsumer> https://imgur.com/a/9eMmze4
03:47:25 <gnarface> hmm, you're on stable?
03:47:41 <gnarface> i wonder if you need the backports kernel and firmware
03:48:09 <gnarface> you might need a newer kernel and firmware to support this hardware
03:48:27 <gnarface> sorry you'll have to move the xorg.conf out of the way again but don't delete it
03:48:42 <gnarface> you got your install disk or a live cd to recover from?
03:49:00 <onefang> I did need the stable-backports kernel for my newish AMD graphics card.
03:49:10 <onefang> But I'm off to bed now.
03:49:26 <gnarface> devuanconsumer: yea, seems likely you'll need the backports kernel and firmware-amd-graphics
03:49:41 <devuanconsumer> ok
03:49:47 <devuanconsumer> let me try loggin in with the old kernal
03:49:52 <devuanconsumer> and i do have a live disk
03:51:41 <gnarface> you should be able to access the harddrive from the live disk to move the xorg.conf out of the way
03:53:32 <devuanconsumer> q
03:54:57 <gnarface> devuanconsumer: don't panic, i know it doesn't look like it but this is actually progress
03:57:09 <devuanconsumer> ok i logged back in
03:57:14 <devuanconsumer> with the old kernal
03:57:17 <devuanconsumer> now what
03:57:26 <devuanconsumer> i double check that i have all the same drivers installed
03:57:35 <devuanconsumer> and then in the mean time tell me how to install backports kernel
03:57:54 <gnarface> alright, we'll install the backports kernel for you, first paste.debian.net your /etc/apt/sources.list file just so i can sanity check it before i tell you what to add
03:59:37 <devuanconsumer> ok lol
04:03:20 <devuanconsumer> https://paste.debian.net/1262859
04:03:22 <devuanconsumer> here it is
04:03:45 <gnarface> hmm, yikes, you got experimental in there, not sure how safe that is
04:03:55 <gnarface> but you already have backports it looks like so no changes should be necessary
04:04:01 <devuanconsumer> i'll remove it
04:04:13 <gnarface> just comment it out by adding a # to the start of the line
04:05:02 <devuanconsumer> ok sounds good
04:05:07 <devuanconsumer> now what do i do next
04:06:37 <gnarface> alright, try this, but before you say "Y" just paste here in channel what it says it's gonna install first: apt-get update && apt-get -t chimaera-backports --no-install-recommends install linux-image-amd64 firmware-amd-graphics
04:06:50 <gnarface> i wanna make sure it's gonna get the right thing
04:09:59 <gnarface> (we might have to actually pick a kernel by name specifically, that "linux-image-amd64" is just a meta-package, and i'm not sure it's defined for backports)
04:11:23 <gnarface> devuanconsumer: ^
04:13:26 <devuanconsumer> it just says
04:13:32 <devuanconsumer> the following packages will be upgraded
04:13:36 <devuanconsumer> linux-image-amd64
04:13:53 <devuanconsumer> can i go into synaptic and install it there?
04:14:14 <gnarface> i am not sure, i don't use synaptic... does it have a way for you to see backports packages ?
04:14:26 <devuanconsumer> i can see linux-images there
04:14:33 <gnarface> need to know which versions
04:14:41 <devuanconsumer> which version must i install?
04:14:53 <gnarface> i don't know specifically but if you tell me the highest version shown i'll know if it's enough
04:15:16 <gnarface> stock is 5.10 and the backports one should be significantly higher than .10
04:15:30 <gnarface> but you need to make sure you have the backports version of firmware-amd-graphics to match
04:18:17 <devuanconsumer> oh ok
04:19:07 <devuanconsumer> so there are 5.18
04:19:08 <devuanconsumer> 5.19
04:19:11 <devuanconsumer> and 6.0
04:19:14 <devuanconsumer> which should i install?
04:19:17 <devuanconsumer> 5.19?
04:19:32 <gnarface> here, from the command line this search should work: apt-cache -t chimaera-backports search ^linux-image
04:19:46 <gnarface> i'm not sure if you're also seeing experimental in there, make sure it's just the backports one
04:20:21 <gnarface> i think all 3 should be new enough but i don't want you to also introduce extra instability
04:21:26 <devuanconsumer> https://paste.debian.net/1262862
04:21:31 <devuanconsumer> here is the output
04:22:43 <gnarface> well looks like the latest is 6.0, so if you want that one use this: apt-get -t chimaera-backports --no-install-recommends install linux-image-6.0.0-0.deb11.2-amd64 firmware-amd-graphics
04:23:35 <gnarface> if you prefer 5.18 or 5.19 use linux-image-5.18.0-0.deb11.4-amd64 or linux-image-5.19.0-0.deb11.2-amd64 in place of the 6.0 one
04:23:43 <gnarface> ignore the rest of them, they're for other purposes
04:24:15 <gnarface> this change will require a reboot
04:24:30 <gnarface> but don't put the xorg.conf back on the first try, make sure it even boots first
04:24:48 <devuanconsumer> yeah so it looks like thats the one i have installed
04:25:07 <gnarface> you already had 6.0 installed?? what does "uname -a" say?
04:25:16 <devuanconsumer> i just booted into the 5.10 because with the firmware-amd-graphics it didn't boot
04:25:26 <devuanconsumer> after i added your xorg.conf
04:26:04 <gnarface> well keep in mind that if you tried to use the stable firmware-amd-graphics version with the backports kernel it might not have worked
04:26:15 <devuanconsumer> ah
04:26:19 <devuanconsumer> so i should uninstall it
04:26:27 <devuanconsumer> and then try it with your xorg.conf then
04:26:34 <devuanconsumer> i think i tried that already and it didn't work lol
04:26:36 <devuanconsumer> let me try again
04:26:45 <devuanconsumer> i'll uninstall the firmware-amd-graphics
04:26:46 <gnarface> well you should install the backports version of firmware-amd-graphics
04:26:51 <gnarface> it won't work without it either
04:27:07 <devuanconsumer> ok do i have to boot into the new kernel and do it like that?
04:27:12 <devuanconsumer> in synaptic?
04:27:24 <gnarface> it might seem to work by falling back on a more generic driver
04:27:36 <gnarface> won't matter if you do it with 1 or 2 reboots, give it a try
04:27:49 <gnarface> how new is this hardware exactly?
04:28:48 <devuanconsumer> the motherboard is from last month
04:28:58 <devuanconsumer> gpu ryzen 7950x is from september 2022
04:29:07 <devuanconsumer> apu*
04:33:49 <gnarface> devuanconsumer: lol i pushed the wrong button and accidentally shut my computer down, if you responded i missed it sorry
04:37:47 <hagbard> [20:28:48] <devuanconsumer> the motherboard is from last month
04:37:47 <hagbard> [20:28:58] <devuanconsumer> gpu ryzen 7950x is from september 2022
04:37:47 <hagbard> [20:29:07] <devuanconsumer> apu*
04:38:03 <gnarface> wow i wonder if even the 6.0 kernel in backports isn't new enough?
04:38:23 <gnarface> (thanks hagbard)
04:38:50 <devuanconsumer> well the backports
04:38:54 <devuanconsumer> did enable the cpu temps
04:39:02 <devuanconsumer> that were available with 5.10
04:39:04 <devuanconsumer> so thats a plus
04:39:18 <devuanconsumer> so i installed the amd firmware and it still didn't boot
04:39:24 <devuanconsumer> the latest is 2021
04:39:35 <devuanconsumer> so i had to login with the old kernel
04:39:45 <devuanconsumer> im going to just try to install the mesa libraries you have
04:39:56 <devuanconsumer> and try it with the old kernel 5.10
04:40:37 <gnarface> well do try with all those libraries but it's possible that you're gonna need an even newer kernel or firmware than what's in the repos, you're gonna have to consult some forums or mailing lists about that... this should be a known quantity just not one i know off the top of my head
04:40:47 <gnarface> i'm totally jealous of your gear though
04:41:13 <gnarface> with the generic modesetting driver you should be fine you just won't get optimal performance
04:41:33 <gnarface> they'll probably have an update out in a month or two
04:42:10 <gnarface> if you're into building kernels maybe there's source you can compile to make it work but that's gonna take more time than i have at the moment to walk you through that
04:42:33 <gnarface> sorry we didn't get it working though, i was hoping it'd be easy
04:42:51 <gnarface> there's nothing like seeing the desktop come up at full resolution for the first time on new hardware
04:48:11 <devuanconsumer> thanks gnarface
04:48:15 <devuanconsumer> i'm happy with the temps for now!
04:48:19 <devuanconsumer> thanks for helping me out!
04:49:10 <gnarface> no problem, let us know if you figure out the rest of it
04:53:41 <devuanconsumer> how did you get newer versions of the mesa files
04:53:49 <devuanconsumer> i dont see the same versions in synaptic package manager
04:53:51 <devuanconsumer> gnarface
04:55:22 <gnarface> devuanconsumer: oh, i'm on ceres (unstable) and i wouldn't recommend it but there's always the possibility it has something even newer than backports that might help you, it's just that usually even unstable is about 6 months behind reality and your hardware is so very new
2022-12-04    
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