03:53:29 <hagbard> is devuan unstable based on debian sid, or on current debian testing? If sid, is there a devian repo, thats based on debian testing?

04:02:46 <sadoon_albader[m> I believe devuan ceres is the equivalent of debian sid

04:04:18 <sadoon_albader[m> So yes unstable is basically sid

04:04:48 <sadoon_albader[m> Testing currently is chimaera which is equivalent to debian 11

04:05:32 <sadoon_albader[m> https://www.devuan.org/os/packages

04:05:40 <sadoon_albader[m> refer to this if you get lost like I often do

04:06:09 <gnarface> all correct

04:06:44 <hagbard> It was easy before the debian 11 release. So there's no devuan repo that currently tracks debian testing, right?

04:08:45 <gnarface> i don't know for sure it's not present under its name yet

04:08:57 <gnarface> i assume the "testing" link itself won't get changed until chimera goes stable, yes

04:09:32 <sadoon_albader[m> tbh chimaera is stable in all but name now

04:09:32 <sadoon_albader[m> I use it daily on all my machines

04:09:39 <hagbard> so do i

04:14:03 <hagbard> what's the next name for next testing after chimaera?

04:17:13 <sadoon_albader[m> Apparently the release files say Daedalus?

04:19:39 <hagbard> Ah, there's a daedalus repo, nice,

04:20:10 <sadoon_albader[m> I'll install a vm with it just for giggles

05:46:58 <skinnyboy_> Hello

05:54:04 <skinnyboy_> Idk what am i doing wrong i just wanna install a stub grub efi on efi partition ando i cant

05:54:13 <skinnyboy_> I got all perfect

05:55:15 <skinnyboy_> I said yes the first time with gui install but it didnt work

05:55:39 <skinnyboy_> And now i said no but i dont have bootloader xD

05:59:48 <skinnyboy_> It gives me an error with mok

06:02:07 <skinnyboy_> Okey

06:02:59 <skinnyboy_> There is a problem in my UEFI with this bootloader: shimx64.efi

06:03:23 <skinnyboy_> I had It to change It to grubx64.efi

06:03:31 <skinnyboy_> With efibootmgr

06:03:53 <skinnyboy_> Someone can give me light why dont work with shim?

06:08:28 <skinnyboy_> I GOT IT!!!

06:08:32 <skinnyboy_> :)))

15:32:35 <junicchi> it seems like grub is in console mode by default on devuan

15:32:45 <junicchi> anyone know how can i put it into graphical mode?

15:33:47 <fsmithred> you just see the generic blue grub screen?

15:34:05 <fsmithred> did you install a desktop from the installer?

15:34:17 <fsmithred> (is desktop-base installed?)

15:34:41 <fsmithred> is your root filesystem encrypted?

15:35:29 <junicchi> fsmithred: my root system is encrypted and yes, i didn't install a desktop from installer, compiled i3 manually

15:36:00 <fsmithred> put an image file in /boot/grub and run update-grub

15:36:12 <fsmithred> that should give you a background image

15:36:39 <junicchi> i put the image directly to /boot

15:36:56 <fsmithred> I don't know if grub looks there

15:37:21 <junicchi> also while specifying the image path, should i make it /boot/grub/path_to_image.jpg or directly path_to_image.jpg ?

15:37:40 <fsmithred> where are you specifying?

15:37:52 <fsmithred> just put it in /boot/grub/ and grub will find it

15:38:26 <fsmithred> that is controlled by the scripts in /etc/grub.d/

15:38:45 <junicchi> /etc/grub.d is empty in my case

15:39:02 <junicchi> >where are you specifying

15:39:05 <junicchi> on config

15:39:14 <junicchi> export GRUB_MENU_PICTURE="/boot/pics/pic.jpg"

15:39:19 <fsmithred> oh

15:39:31 <fsmithred> so I guess that should work

15:39:50 <fsmithred> no /etc/grub.d/05_debian-theme?

15:40:15 <fsmithred> it's in the grub-common package

15:40:26 <junicchi> oh yeah, i was always checking /etc/default

15:40:36 <junicchi> but it seems like there is also /etc/grubçd

15:40:53 <fsmithred> not here

15:41:48 <junicchi> so yes, there is a 05_debian-theme

15:41:55 <junicchi> how should i set it?

15:42:20 <fsmithred> put an image file in /boot/grub/ and run update-grub

15:42:35 <fsmithred> watch the output and it'll tell you if it finds the image

15:44:06 <junicchi> it found

15:44:11 <junicchi> lemme reboot and see if it werks

15:46:48 <ShorTie> how can i add -fPIC to the build process ??

15:50:51 <ShorTie> i'm trying to rebuild iptables with -fPIC

16:38:43 <ShorTie> got it, CPPFLAGS +=

17:21:59 <xrogaan> anybody knows a slim image editor for linux?

17:23:19 <UsL> imagemagick

17:25:25 <n4dir> mtpaint is said to "run on old hardware" too.

17:26:06 <n4dir> there was a screenshot program for easy simple editing. shutter or such? FotoXX ?

17:29:09 <rwp> Imagemagick is old and shows the older widget library but it still gets the job done. It's what I use for cropping images.

17:29:27 <xrogaan> mypaint is impressive. Don't know about mtpaint

17:29:29 <rwp> display image.jpg; Menu: Transform->crop then click and click and then crop and save

17:29:48 <xrogaan> I need something usable, I'll probably stick with inkscape for my use.

17:30:16 <rwp> There is more than one way to do it. :-) Lots of tools. Lots of different ways.

17:34:13 <xrogaan> mypaint can simulate water colors! Crazy.

17:44:08 <UsL> didn't know about mtpaint. Looks pretty good. I haven't figured out how to make effects for only selected areas yet though.