Well that's very kind of you to say (unless it's sarcasm of course which I expect it is, lol), but i'm no expert at documentation or linux, i'm a student like most here.

I do try to do my part as best I can though.

Your threads are great for the most part, I have learned from them. But it's when you stray off into philosophical territory in tech forums that just seems a little weird, and very off-topic. We do have an off-topic section of the forum where that sort of commentary might be more apropos.

Calculate them, no. Relieve a package of ones that definitely aren't needed, yes.

I really enjoy and appreciate your very detailed threads, I have learned some things reading them. But the walls of text and "secret ritual" and AI stuff is kinda off-putting.

To be honest, I think you tend to over-think things. And when you launch into the secret ritual stuff and such, I think about a scene in the movie "Van Helsing" with Hugh Jackman:

Dracula: "IGOR, why do you torment that poor creature so?"

Igor: " It's what I do".

Glad you got it worked out, welcome to Devuan!

That's not the method i'm talking about either.

But thanks for the wall of off-topic text, I may try to read it after I get a few more cups of coffee in me.

The gnome-disk-utility does not depend on the gnome-settings-daemon, in fact it's listed as breaking the settings daemon if you DO have it installed and the version is less than 3.24 I guess. Current version for the settings daemon is 43.0-4 in the repo.

I have the disk utiility on my systems and it works fine. I do not have the settings daemon installed at all on any of them, unless you are running GNOME for your DE it's not needed.

Are you running Gnome for your DE?

Nice tutorial!

But there's also a quick and dirty way to do this that doesn't involve all that and takes about 10 seconds.

Not necessarily, the conversation has pivoted somewhat, but it has turned to discussion of the stumbling block itself, and perhaps a better understanding of that will help with expanding the script to include efi stuff.

I did spend a little time working on re-writing, but after several attempts i'm not quite there, so it's on the back-burner simmering while I try to gather more data and do more reading. I have a working prototype (mostly) that extends it to bypass the need for Mintstick, and does everything I want it to, wipe-format-write-add data partition. But again, that's gonna be useless for efi-only isos that may need the boot partition on the liveUSB.

Gonna be twice the amount of code just to deal with the useless efi crap.

No, something in that iso is making that happen, I make liveUSB's all the time with daedalus based isos, my own, vanilla Devuan daedalus, even Devuan excalibur. It's not the kernel version triggering it. It's definitely the iso itself.

Apparently Crunchbang++ does, the iso Altoid linked to is efi, and won't boot up a live-session on my machine.

Something really wrong with that iso anyway, it's bizarre, downloading it alone caused my browser to lock up at the end of the process. And just looking at it on a usb stick that I burned, it's got a whole lot of odd stuff on it I usually don't see on normal isos.

And it apparently requires an efi partition as Altoid mentioned just to (attempt) to boot.

Uefi is just shit. Pure shit. Like shit with a side of shit-sauce and a shit-shake with some turds on the side.

I don't think IRC can be considered as part of the infrastructure of Devuan or any distro for that matter, it's just a handy little outside utility, a simple courtesy that may be helpful.

If I really want eyes on an issue, I post it to the forum first, where it will be easily accessible and seen by many. Then I go on IRC and post a link to the forum thread for maximum coverage.

@igorzwx  I'd rather mess with X-apps than Gnome apps. This CSD theming crap is a deal-breaker. No more Gnome GUI apps in my projects.

As far as themes, thanks for the recommendation, but I already made my own that I like quite a lot.

Ice-Breaker! It's very nice and soothing, but not all blacked out like the truly dark themes.

(emoji doing the happy dance!)

Awesome, one last question my friend and i'll stop harassing you, did you add the extra sleep command to the script to get it to work or did the CLI version work for you without having to add the extra code?