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#301 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Can you suggest some tips and tricks for speed up Devuan? » 2022-11-15 09:35:10
To use openrc-init as PID1 see https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=2788.
Thanks. Question? Is it have a secnse? Switching to openrc give me speed and overall system responcivness ?
#302 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Can you suggest some tips and tricks for speed up Devuan? » 2022-11-15 01:18:37
Here https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=38617#p38617
what services is safe to disable?
sysv here, rc-update not found but update-rc.d works
I use openrc init,
How switch Devuan to openrc? And is it safe to swich? What is faster sysv or openrc?
#303 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Can you suggest some tips and tricks for speed up Devuan? » 2022-11-14 23:50:21
antiX is ONLY window managers (Icewm, JWM, Fluxbox, Herbstluftwm) by default. I don't know if installing XFCE slows down the system - I have XFCE installed on antiX and the system seems plenty fast enough.
Thanks again!) And what distros are you using and which one do you like the most?
So no, you could not say the "only" way to speed up Devuan is to disable unneeded services. It's probably one of the BEST ways to do it though.
and what i could do right in my case?
https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=38617#p38617
#304 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Can you suggest some tips and tricks for speed up Devuan? » 2022-11-14 22:53:07
deepforest wrote:So what is happens with my Ceres when freeze is come?
Ceres is always fluid and unstable. It never freezes. Please take a look at our release information.
Thanks You! Its useful.
#305 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Can you suggest some tips and tricks for speed up Devuan? » 2022-11-14 22:45:09
Like this?
root@devuan:/home/freeartist/Downloads/Q-Zandronum_source/qzandronum2-patch/buildclient# service --status-all
[ + ] acpid
[ ? ] alsa-utils
[ - ] anacron
[ + ] avahi-daemon
[ + ] bluetooth
[ ? ] bootchart-done
[ - ] bootlogd
[ - ] bootlogs
[ - ] bootmisc.sh
[ - ] brightness
[ - ] checkfs.sh
[ - ] checkroot-bootclean.sh
[ - ] checkroot.sh
[ + ] connman
[ - ] console-setup.sh
[ + ] cron
[ ? ] cryptdisks
[ ? ] cryptdisks-early
[ + ] cups
[ + ] cups-browsed
[ + ] dbus
[ ? ] dundee
[ + ] elogind
[ + ] eudev
[ + ] exim4
[ + ] gpm
[ - ] hddtemp
[ - ] hostname.sh
[ ? ] hwclock.sh
[ - ] keyboard-setup.sh
[ - ] killprocs
[ ? ] kmod
[ - ] lightdm
[ + ] lisa-trinity
[ - ] lm-sensors
[ ? ] mount-configfs
[ - ] mountall-bootclean.sh
[ - ] mountall.sh
[ - ] mountdevsubfs.sh
[ - ] mountkernfs.sh
[ - ] mountnfs-bootclean.sh
[ - ] mountnfs.sh
[ + ] network-manager
[ ? ] networking
[ + ] ntpsec
[ ? ] ofono
[ - ] openvpn
[ + ] osspd
[ + ] pcscd
[ + ] preload
[ - ] procps
[ - ] pulseaudio-enable-autospawn
[ - ] rc.local
[ - ] rmnologin
[ - ] rsync
[ + ] rsyslog
[ + ] saned
[ - ] sendsigs
[ + ] slim
[ + ] smartmontools
[ ? ] speech-dispatcher
[ - ] stop-bootlogd
[ - ] stop-bootlogd-single
[ - ] sudo
[ ? ] tdm
[ - ] umountfs
[ - ] umountnfs.sh
[ - ] umountroot
[ - ] unattended-upgrades
[ - ] urandom
[ + ] uuidd
[ - ] virtualbox
[ - ] x11-common
root@devuan:/home/freeartist/Downloads/Q-Zandronum_source/qzandronum2-patch/buildclient#root@devuan:/etc# update-rc.d -f bluetooth disable
insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script `bluetooth' overrides LSB defaults (2 3 4 5).
insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (0 1 2 3 4 5 6) of script `bluetooth' overrides LSB defaults (0 1 6).
root@devuan:/etc# #306 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Can you suggest some tips and tricks for speed up Devuan? » 2022-11-14 22:18:33
Give it time
And enjoy the massively outdated packages during the upcoming freeze. The Debian devs sometimes even leave critical bugs unfixed in the development branches until the release is done...
So what is happens with my Ceres when freeze is come?
I respectfully disagree. Change my mind :-)
LoL. Devuan after hours working feeling like rubber. And Artix not it fast from the boot. On Arch when i push on "Application menu"(not Whisker) after boot, needed ~10-15! sec to it appear. On Artix all response is instantly.
#307 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Can you suggest some tips and tricks for speed up Devuan? » 2022-11-14 21:55:44
deepforest wrote:Tell me one best benchmarks
No. FPS is equal on all my systems. I am talking about booting, launching apps, responce time gui, and lag of DEs. How it can be measure? And its NOT subjective)
#308 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Can you suggest some tips and tricks for speed up Devuan? » 2022-11-14 21:51:05
Stable. Unless you enjoy fixing broken systems.
I am on Ceres almost year and nothing is broke yet.
#309 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Can you suggest some tips and tricks for speed up Devuan? » 2022-11-14 21:48:30
One thing I do, and check from time to time is services that load at boot.
rc-update, I turn off as many server services as possible...
ie, sudo, squid, openvpn, ssh, savecache, nethack-common, haveged, fancontrol (stops error spam), exim4, dictd, avahi-daemon and bluetooth.
Because I tether my phone as a modem, squid and openvpn are started after I connect to the phone long after the boot processes are done...
:-)
Thanks! And how exactly turn off unneeded services technically? And what services is safe to disable? Were is i can get list of this services?
#310 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Can you suggest some tips and tricks for speed up Devuan? » 2022-11-14 21:45:10
andyprough Thanks a lot!
I thought that antiX with runit, Artix with s6, and a minimal Void installation were all shockingly fast.
But only Artix have xfce out from the box? Why antiX have no xfce by default? If i am install xfce on antiX its not broke the speed?
Also MX is using either sysvinit or systemd - the two slowest init systems that I've personally experienced.
Devuan is pretty fast, but not like antiX, Artix and Void in my experience. Once again, probably has to do with it using sysvinit and starting up more services by default than I really need.
This! So only one way to speed up Devuan is disable unneeded services?
#311 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Can you suggest some tips and tricks for speed up Devuan? » 2022-11-13 23:30:10
andyprough Thank you, very useful!
Using the latest version of an older generation LTS kernel instead of a new generation kernel will usually give you a speed boost according to years of benchmark tests on Phoronix website. LTS kernels such as the 5.10 kernel are optimized over a period of years
And what you can say about MX Linux compare to Devuan? MX have lts kernel 5.10
runit and s6 make systems noticeably faster in terms of booting and program start times compared to sysvinit and are especially faster compared to systemd. So on your Artix systems you'll have a lot of good options there. Also dinit seemed pretty zippy when I tried it.
choice is not rich https://nosystemd.org/ if we speak about Linux with "human face" and that working "out of the box"
#312 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Can you suggest some tips and tricks for speed up Devuan? » 2022-11-13 23:21:44
Which benchmarks are you using? Care to share them?
Overall feeling of response time.
Tell me one best benchmarks and i can make tests.
I would expect Devuan to do well against Arch.
Thanks! Witch Devuan stable or unstable?
#313 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Can you suggest some tips and tricks for speed up Devuan? » 2022-11-13 18:20:25
Devuan is already faster than vanilla Arch anyway
hey) Its very interesting question! On my second legacy PC i have 3 Linux)
1.Arch(vanilla)
2.Devuan Ceres
3.Artix(no systemd Arch)
The fasted for me is Artix, second is Devuan, third Arch
My second PC, legacy - c2d Q6600, gf9800gtx, 4gb ram
PS i want ask here? What Linux is better for
My first PC, modern - AMD r2600, radeon rx580, 32gb ram
I think may be vanilla Arch? I love play different games old and new)
#314 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Can you suggest some tips and tricks for speed up Devuan? » 2022-11-13 18:09:57
Thanks All for replys)
Yes. As i know only mitigations=off in kernels upper 5.15.
So it works.
freeartist@devuan:~$ for i in /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/* ; do echo "$(basename $i): $(cat $i)" ; done
itlb_multihit: KVM: Mitigation: VMX disabled
l1tf: Mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: EPT disabled
mds: Vulnerable; SMT disabled
meltdown: Vulnerable
mmio_stale_data: Unknown: No mitigations
retbleed: Not affected
spec_store_bypass: Vulnerable
spectre_v1: Vulnerable: __user pointer sanitization and usercopy barriers only; no swapgs barriers
spectre_v2: Vulnerable, STIBP: disabled, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
srbds: Not affected
tsx_async_abort: Not affected
freeartist@devuan:~$ #315 Desktop and Multimedia » Can you suggest some tips and tricks for speed up Devuan? » 2022-11-12 20:06:33
- deepforest
- Replies: 92
Without upgrading hardware;)
Please, post here if you have such tips and tricks.
#316 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Thunar not show all devices on left panel » 2022-11-12 17:20:31
I usually am starting Thunar not from terminal, so cant say. Today is good again. If it happened next time i am try your suggestion.
And what i must look at xorg log than it happened?
#317 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Thunar not show all devices on left panel » 2022-11-12 01:45:29
huh, its happens again( after boot i don't see devices at left in Thunar
root@devuan:/home/freeartist/Downloads# findmnt
TARGET SOURCE FSTYPE OPTIONS
/ /dev/sdc3 ext4 rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro
├─/sys sysfs sysfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime
│ ├─/sys/kernel/security securityfs securityfs rw,relatime
│ ├─/sys/fs/pstore pstore pstore rw,relatime
│ └─/sys/fs/cgroup cgroup2 cgroup2 rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,nsdelegate
├─/proc proc proc rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime
├─/dev udev devtmpfs rw,nosuid,relatime,size=1991116k,nr_inodes=497779,mode=755,inode64
│ ├─/dev/pts devpts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=600,ptmxmode=000
│ └─/dev/shm tmpfs tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=1643280k,inode64
└─/run tmpfs tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=402220k,mode=755,inode64
├─/run/lock tmpfs tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=5120k,inode64
└─/run/user/1000 tmpfs tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,size=402216k,nr_inodes=100554,mode=700,uid=1000,gid=1000,inode64
├─/run/user/1000/gvfs gvfsd-fuse fuse.gvfsd-fuse rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=1000
└─/run/user/1000/doc portal fuse.portal rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=1000
root@devuan:/home/freeartist/Downloads# #318 Desktop and Multimedia » Can't extract boot chart from collector - at booting log » 2022-11-12 01:34:40
- deepforest
- Replies: 0
I see this at end of boot log. What this mean? Previously bootchart was installed.
freeartist@devuan:~$ sudo dmesg | grep -i collector
[sudo] password for freeartist:
[ 50.048596] bootchart-collector started as pid 1777 with 2 args: '--dump' '/tmp/bootchart.JiLx4zycq7'
Failed to find the collector's pid
bootchart-collector pid: 1777 unmounted proc / clean exit
freeartist@devuan:~$#319 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » Thunar not show all devices on left panel » 2022-11-10 18:30:09
Can we see
cat /etc/fstab findmntThanks!
Thanks! Weird, but today all drives is shown. I am do not nothing.
https://imgur.com/a/U9uQrk5
Here output.
freeartist@devuan:~$ cat /etc/fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
# device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
# that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# systemd generates mount units based on this file, see systemd.mount(5).
# Please run 'systemctl daemon-reload' after making changes here.
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
# / was on /dev/sdb3 during installation
UUID=b719b471-3b3a-4eda-8fd4-0e5406bf9906 / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
# swap was on /dev/sdb2 during installation
UUID=5755abdb-a2a3-4387-9469-a23778127f40 none swap sw 0 0
# swap was on /dev/sdc2 during installation
#UUID=fbf32798-7cc2-4ffd-8b77-8bd2934d0f6a none swap sw 0 0freeartist@devuan:~$ findmnt
TARGET SOURCE FSTYPE OPTIONS
/ /dev/sda3 ext4 rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro
├─/sys sysfs sysfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime
│ ├─/sys/kernel/security securityfs securityfs rw,relatime
│ ├─/sys/fs/pstore pstore pstore rw,relatime
│ └─/sys/fs/cgroup cgroup2 cgroup2 rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,nsdelegate
├─/proc proc proc rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime
├─/dev udev devtmpfs rw,nosuid,relatime,size=1991116k,nr_inodes=497779,mode=755,inode64
│ ├─/dev/pts devpts devpts rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=600,ptmxmode=000
│ └─/dev/shm tmpfs tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=1643280k,inode64
└─/run tmpfs tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=402220k,mode=755,inode64
├─/run/lock tmpfs tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=5120k,inode64
└─/run/user/1000 tmpfs tmpfs rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,size=402216k,nr_inodes=100554,mode=700,uid=1000,gid=1000,inode64
├─/run/user/1000/gvfs gvfsd-fuse fuse.gvfsd-fuse rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=1000
└─/run/user/1000/doc portal fuse.portal rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=1000
freeartist@devuan:~$ #320 Desktop and Multimedia » Thunar not show all devices on left panel » 2022-11-09 22:20:31
- deepforest
- Replies: 9
Devuan Ceres
After last update. Thunar not show all devices on left panel. Before update i see all my drives on left panel now not, even mounted. Why?
screenshot
https://imgur.com/a/9cVpii1
#321 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » How disable apparmor? » 2022-11-01 02:49:20
Thank to all for suggestions and replys! Its all bit hard for understanding for not expirenced linuxoids. I need time to think:)
so, is it safe to purge appamor, look for system responce and performance, and bring apparmor back if it will be needed?
#322 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » How disable apparmor? » 2022-10-31 21:17:43
so, solution here is remove apparmor?
#323 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » How disable apparmor? » 2022-10-30 22:41:44
Thanks! So hard and complex)
No errors at booting now.
Buy why i still see this? apparmor module is loaded
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# service apparmor status
apparmor module is loaded.
apparmor filesystem is not mounted.
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# #324 Re: Desktop and Multimedia » How disable apparmor? » 2022-10-30 21:46:21
issue, still loading with errors
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# dmesg | grep -i apparmor
[ 0.000000] Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.0.0-2-amd64 root=UUID=b719b471-3b3a-4eda-8fd4-0e5406bf9906 ro quiet mitigations=off apparmor=0
[ 0.048939] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.0.0-2-amd64 root=UUID=b719b471-3b3a-4eda-8fd4-0e5406bf9906 ro quiet mitigations=off apparmor=0
[ 1.036333] evm: security.apparmor
root@devuan:/home/freeartist# service apparmor status
apparmor module is loaded.
apparmor filesystem is not mounted.
root@devuan:/home/freeartist#/var/log/boot 1109305/1084K 99%
Sun Oct 30 23:38:31 2022: Starting: AppArmorLoading AppArmor profiles - failed, Do you have the correct privileges? ... .[31mfailed!.[0m
Sun Oct 30 23:38:39 2022: startpar: service(s) returned failure: apparmor ... .[31mfailed!.[0m#325 Desktop and Multimedia » How disable apparmor? » 2022-10-30 20:49:17
- deepforest
- Replies: 34
Delete this symlinks not help, apparmor is still loading
/etc/rcS.d/S14apparmor
/etc/systemd/system/sysinit.target.wants/apparmor.service
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