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#1 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2024-03-10 15:08:44

Great, thank you! Both now boot fine into their respective DE/WM. I can also confirm that the xfce-runit image is booting fine, as expected.

It is just amazing to have so much choice on aging harware, in complete freedom.

#2 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2024-03-10 12:36:01

It looks like the new JWM image does not have the dbus problem any more, thanks!

After checking further, the issue that prevents the graphical session from starting seems to be the same as with plasma-sysvinit: glamor also complains that it does not get enough instructions. So it is likely hardware related. I now need to try with the latest xfce-runit image, maybe more recent versions of some GPU driver require higher specs.

The xfce-sysvinit image boots fine on the same hardware, though.

#3 Re: Off-topic » What do you think about electric cars? » 2024-03-07 22:58:19

GlennW wrote:

IMO, I wouldn't call it Clean, unless they changed the definition of that word too.

Note how they do not call it "clean", but "green".

#4 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2024-03-07 21:42:52

I have been trying to boot from the JWM iso, but am getting a flashing screen with umpteen lines of this error message:

fail: dbus: unable to change to service directory: file does not exist

EDIT: no luck with the plasma-sysvinit iso either. I am getting error messages about glamor not getting enough instructions (64 vs. 128), so this is probably hardware related. I may try the xfce-sysvinit iso and see how that goes.

EDIT: the xfce-sysvinit live iso is running great, difficult to tell the difference with the installed xfce-runit system.

#5 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2024-01-05 02:57:41

aitor wrote:

Fixed in vdev-1.3.1. I've updated the images.

Wow, lightspeed fix!  🚀

#6 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2023-12-27 00:38:43

I like your logic of requesting extra work for Gnuinos while suggesting sending money elsewhere. lol

zapper wrote:

RYP

How about RYS?

Reclaim Your Sanity.

#7 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2023-12-26 05:03:47

zapper wrote:

...my pocket mnt reform. it will be a while till other options... show up.

Why did you buy it then? lol

You can send it to me if you have no use for it. I would be interested in installing Trisquel on it, but my strict moral consciousness forbids me from sending such an amount of money for a blobbed device. Next time, just send the $1000 to me, I could have much better use for it. I would probably send it to aitor to support Gnuinos, at least that would be useful and deserved.

#8 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2023-12-24 23:59:51

Great work, as always! Thank you aitor.

I just have one side question, about a boot time warning message saying that udevd cannot be found. Since this is expected, I was wondering what is triggering the message. So far I have found this general explanation, which sounds reasonable: "These are related to many things on Linux revolving around udev."

The line is in there: /etc/runit/bootup/02-eudev.sh. Is it for compatibility reasons? I just modified the string so it now says "Gnuinos 5.0 Daedalus rocks!" instead.

#9 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2023-10-09 09:01:09

It appears that the complete procedure is detailed there: https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation … o-daedalus. Not sure how I could miss that.

So I followed up with the extra steps, and all went well. Gnuinos Daedalus is now up and running smoothly, and only marginally taking extra RAM compared to Chimaera, with the relative difference decreasing with the load.

#10 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2023-09-13 23:48:55

Thank you for the new ISOs. I fell asleep at some point last month, and did not realize that Daedalus has now been promoted to stable.

The Chimaera Xfce version that I installed some time ago is doing quite fine, I just updated it today. It is taking about 450MiB of RAM, which is great for a system with a complete DE, and about 950MiB with Icecat, LibreOffice and GIMP running, which is quite a feat.

I will upgrade the USB live system to the last Daedalus ISO, and see how that goes.  cool

UPDATE: The Gnuinos Daedalus live session works great, so I am considering installing it. A fresh install is an option, but I would like to try upgrading from Chimaera. Is there anything specific to know? simply edited the sources.list to 'daedalus' and ran apt upgrade, and that was it. Or is something missing? It currently says "Daedalus" everywhere, and all personal settings were correctly applied wherever applicable.

#11 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2023-07-08 23:13:55

Both Gnuinos Chimaera (installed on hdd) and Daedalus (from the live ISO) boot fine and run great here.

I am using the 64-bit Xfce version in both cases, from the last ISO.

Thank you Aitor!

#12 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2023-06-24 18:17:46

golinux wrote:

because the search function

Well you made me curious, so I searched for d_e_a_dalus in this forum, and guess what came out:

https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=4885 big_smile

My actual point is, I too like the sapphire theme very much, it almost feels like deepsea was a sort of preamble, a necessary path that unfolded into sapphire. I now need to get that Gnuinos Daedalus preview back into testing, I just noticed the 2023.06.21 images.

#13 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2023-05-26 00:26:46

aitor wrote:

Solved!

It's working in x86 as well smile

This is really good news for 32-bit users!

I am still to try the last 64-bit Daedalus Xfce live ISO. All is well on Chimaera, using Linux-libre 6.1.

#14 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2023-05-04 11:53:18

Good to know, thanks.

I am currently 100% happy with Gnuinos 4.0 Chimaera 64-bits Xfce, so I would like to thank you again for your effort.

The only extra system package I install is gvfs-backends, so I can sftp into other local machines right from Thunar's address bar.

#15 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2023-05-02 11:26:43

This is great news! I had indeed been looking at those lines in the zz-server.conf file, without any idea what to do about them.

Now everything just works, and I can indeed select tap-to-click in the Xfce touchpad configuration tab. I am planning to install again from the latest Chimaera ISO, but I was wondering whether there is a way to include these modifications through a system upgrade.

#17 Re: Installation » Installation problem or GRUB problem? » 2023-04-26 00:55:05

Piriponzolo wrote:

I'm asked for another login and BASH replies "command not found".

This probably means that you are already logged in, so what you are getting is a command prompt, not a login prompt.

If you have installed Xfce, you may want to try:

startxfce4

#18 Re: Off-topic » AI on mainstream media » 2023-04-25 02:58:05

An interesting and informed take on the topic - Geoffrey Hinton at CBS Saturday Morning:

https://invidious.flokinet.to/watch?v=qpoRO378qRY

Current forms of AI seem to be in fact diverging from the way human brain actually works. And be massively more resource hungry...

#19 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2023-04-16 05:50:38

zapper wrote:

I always disable touchpad on all my thinkpads if a trackpoint is available

Are you referring to Gnuinos or to Hyperbola? As much as I will celebrate the day HyperbolaBSD is released, this thread is about Gnuinos.

#20 Re: Off-topic » AI on mainstream media » 2023-04-16 02:49:09

Since we are talking about a vastly more powerful form of intelligence than what humans ever dreamed of, how can we predict its behavior? It seems that the very reason why we fear it - because we project our own behavior into that massive brain power - also implies that we cannot really predict its behavior. Maybe AI is already eating silicon popcorn while watching the human soap opera live.

yeti wrote:

That'll just be the next groundhog day for the universe...

I see no reason to worry about the universe. This is a highly local phenomenon after all, compared to the scale of the universe. At the human scale, though, this is indeed possibly going to be fast forward crash course into evolution. But maybe not. I believe we should let go: either resistance is futile, or there is nothing to resist. One does not simply resist evolution.

#21 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2023-04-12 03:58:15

@mammon: could you help aitor and send him some coworkers instead of trolling this thread?
@aitor: thanks for the new Gnuinos Chimaera ISO images that keep coming.

I have given up on touchpad scrolling for the time being, could not find where those settings are hiding and mostly using the keyboard anyway. It looks like the touchpad is defaulting to mouse, it appears as <default pointer> in the Xfce "Mouse and Touchpad" GUI, and there is no "Touchpad" tab showing. Other than that, it is quite a great experience, fast and stable. Great job in blob-free init freedom.

UPDATE: I had just managed to get some clues about synaptics vs. libinput vs. evdev, when I noticed this in the synaptics manual: "if your device is recognized as "PS/2 Mouse" or similar, the kernel driver does not support your device and this driver will only provide limited functionality". I did not want to believe earlier hints about the kernel, but they were probably correct. This is also consistent with my recollection of two-finger scrolling available in Daedalus.

UPDATE II: that was a red herring, I installed the last available kernel to no avail. I will now try the last chimaera ISO.

#22 Re: Off-topic » Share your photography! » 2023-04-09 20:37:16

aluma wrote:

Don't rub salt in the wound!

That was certainly not my intention. I thought you may also be interested in those bird facts: you were/are seemingly lucky to have spotted that specimen in the UK, so your shot is in itself a great feat. I like that bird, but I never noticed the variations in its singing mentioned in the article. I will need to listen more carefully.

EDIT: not sure why I assumed your shot was taken in the UK. I still like your hoopoe pic.

#23 Re: Off-topic » Share your photography! » 2023-04-09 03:10:35

aluma wrote:

Because of this bird, I now have three cameras and a bunch of optics for a Pentax SLR.
He flew to my garden and wanted to capture it. If I knew then that "birds" are the most expensive thing!
https://i.postimg.cc/CKV5hs9P/1.jpg

https://birdsfact.com/hoopoe-bird

#24 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2023-04-06 01:56:27

aitor wrote:

Hence, today I decided to update the isos once again.

Thank you. Surely I will give another try at Chimaera at some point. I only remember that the Xfce session became unresponsive, possibly after an update: I could still move the pointer around, but clicking on menus or icons would not trigger any visible reaction. The keyboard also seemed unresponsive, so I could not even log in another tty. So yes, probably related to vdev vs. eudev, I suppose.

Anyway, Daedalus is proving quite resilient for now, so I am going to keep tweaking it and see how much I can bend it to my needs and to my liking.

EDIT: I installed Chimaera again from the last ISO, and all went well. I made the exact same "tweaking" I had been doing on Daedalus, so at times I forget which version is running. By the way, Daedalus was repeatedly trying to ping through wlan at startup, to no avail since that non-free wifi card is not compatible. Chimaera is not exhibiting that behavior, even when wifi is enabled in the BIOS setup. The only usability thing I have been unable to do on that Chimaera system is to activate two-finger scrolling and right-click emulation on the touch pad. I am quite sure they were functional on Daedalus.

#25 Re: Devuan Derivatives » GNUinOS - Libre » 2023-04-05 01:36:57

Gnuinos is using the Linux-libre kernel, the current version in Daedalus is 5.19.0.2.

Newer versions of the Linux-libre kernel are available up to 6.2, but they have to be installed manually.

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