Posts by TWX

TWX · Hardware & System Configuration

Well, something of an update, when the computer comes back from screen lock or hibernate the bluetooth mouse is recognized but blueman just logs connects and disconnects. I've tried pairing and trusting, no dice. I doubt that this is a function of the laptop for what it's worth.

So I threw the old M.2 SSD from the original laptop into one of those external USB adapters. The adapter is an enclosure that came with a stick-on heat-transfer pad and metal plate for a heatsink. I just left the case cover off of the adapter for now, so that I didn't do something that would be difficult to reverse. This old 512GB SSD gets HOT, I can see why they included the pad and plate. I'm wondering if this actually contributed to the problems the original computer had that led to battery swell etc. I may look at what I can do to manage heat better with this replacement, maybe adding something to help transfer heat from the internal 4TB unit to the metal bottom of the computer.

TWX · Hardware & System Configuration

Once my 4TB M.2 storage arrived I went ahead and installed. Unlike my original plan I found that since Devuan Daedalus is at release-candidate stage I just installed it directly yesterday.

Only two hiccups that I would attribute to the install and initial config of the platform from the install... First during install, it prompted for firmware nonfree for the Atheros 10k for wifi even though notes elsewhere indicate that this is included with the installation media. Once I just skipped where it prompted for additional media it properly loaded the kernel module and I was able to proceed. Second, I could not and could not and could not get the @^)$ mouse to connect to bluetooth. I even tried a different mouse of the same model that I use for my work-issue laptop that I knew was good, same problem. Finally I found a setting in blueman-applet 2.3.5 where it only was letting devices with names through, rather than devices whose names could not be determined during the scan. Apparently the Logitech M535, at least of this vintage, doesn't advertise by name in a way that blueman likes.

Otherwise so far so good. Went with Cinnamon instead of Xfce like I was running on the old one, something auto-determined screen DPI and set the scaling to a reasonable amount for 3200x1800 on a 13.3" display for me and it seems like most programs are respecting this. Lock screen behavior, which was a problem on the old Debian Jessie install on the old laptop, is working just fine on this thing and general power and screen dimming settings seem a lot more reasonable. Still need to pull files off of the old laptop but that'll be for sometime later today probably.

It also doesn't seem to be getting nearly as hot as the old laptop did. No idea if that was just because back then it was a new laptop and the specific tricks Dell used on their own Linux install hadn't made it out to the general distros yet, or if it would've run as badly even with Dell's, or if there's possibly even something wrong with old laptop, but so far much happier with this replacement.

TWX · Hardware & System Configuration

So, as I was saying... *laugh*

I did actually look to see if there were other threads on this model since my last post, but it doesn't look like it's been all that popular. might as well resurrect this one so if someone else later ever goes looking they can find it.

My laptop I asked about all those years ago is on its last legs, but I found an excellent-condition late-production example from the same series after Dell switched production from the 7th-gen dual-core i7-7560u to the 8th-gen quad-core i7-8550u on the 9360. Back when I installed this old one I ended up on just straight Debian as the state of wifi was not up to snuff on Devuan at the time, and even then I ended up swapping in a different wifi adapter (Intel Corporation Dual Band Wireless-AC 8265) since the Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 "Killer" wifi gave me problems. So with this new-to-me laptop I could swap the Qualcomm out for the Intel if I need it.

My current plan is to install Chimaera on a new bare drive and then switch my sources to Daedalus and dist-upgrade to it. I plan to browse the forums a bit more before I kick this off but is there anything that you feel that I need to know or any pitfalls to look into further?

TWX · Other Issues

With the boot-time issues and since it'd been awhile since I did any updates, I've done and update/ugprade/dist-ugprade and now the external USB flash reader appears and disappears in Thunar as the device is plugged/unplugged. The error on kvm is still there at boot but it doesn't hang anymore, didn't have time to take a picture, but I don't think the udev error showed up.

I still need to do some more testing, but it looks less bad than it was. Not sure what was broken that the updating fixed.

EDIT: The internal USB flash reader now works too, and the external USB hard disk drive works, I can mount and unmount each as a user.

TWX · Other Issues

I reboot very seldomly. I'd forgotten I was getting the following during boot:

INIT: version 2.93 booting
[info] Using makefile-style concurrent boot in runlevel S.
[ ok ] Starting hot-plug events dispatcher: udevd.
[ ok ] Synthesizing the initial hotplug events...done.
[....] Waiting for /dev to be fully populated...[    7.724408]udevd[383]: specified group 'kvm' unknown
[   10.884900] kvm: disabled by bios
[   10.921378] kvm: disabled by bios

and it sits there for a fairly considerable amount of time before progressing.

Thinking about the nature of the problem I have to expect this is involved.

And with those packages (forgot to remove the rules file) still no new user-mountable devices in Thunar post-reboot.

TWX · Other Issues

Package: gvfs-backends
Status: install ok installed

Package: gvfs
Status: install ok installed

Package: policykit-1-gnome
Status: install ok installed

Package: thunar-volman
Status: install ok installed

Interesting, all were present. Anyhow, rebooting.

TWX · Other Issues

Ok. I'll doublecheck packages installed and reboot after moving the rules file out of the etc directory.

TWX · Other Issues

Long story short, having trouble with USB user-accessible media on a Beowulf installation running XFCE4.

First tried using a USB-internally-connected SD reader, had issues with no block device being created, was in a hurry so pulled the micro-SD card out and put it into an external USB reader. Got a block device on /dev/sdb1 but strangely Thunar did not display the presence of this device as a mountable volume. Walked away, when I returned some minutes later, the media had been shown in Thunar while I was away. Couldn't mount in Thunar though, permissions issues. Found this thread which ultimately led to some other thread and creating a file in /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d called 10-removable_storage.pkla with the following contents:

[Allow Automount]
Identity=unix-group:plugdev
Action=org.freedesktop.udisks2.filesystem-mount*
ResultAny=yes
ResultInactive=yes[1429273.027772] usb 8-1: new high-speed USB device number 9 using ehci-pci
[1429273.185740] usb 8-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0bc2, idProduct=ab28, bcdDevice= 1.00
[1429273.185743] usb 8-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=2, Product=3, SerialNumber=1
[1429273.185745] usb 8-1: Product: BUP BK
[1429273.185746] usb 8-1: Manufacturer: Seagate
[1429273.185748] usb 8-1: SerialNumber: NA9SSJ0A
[1429273.186817] scsi host7: uas
[1429273.189175] scsi 7:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Seagate  BUP BK           0304 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
[1429273.190821] sd 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0
[1429273.191496] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Spinning up disk...
[1429274.215711] .......ready
[1429280.361126] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] 9767541167 512-byte logical blocks: (5.00 TB/4.55 TiB)
[1429280.361129] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] 2048-byte physical blocks
[1429280.374922] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
[1429280.374926] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 4f 00 00 00
[1429280.375623] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
[1429280.376394] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Optimal transfer size 33553920 bytes not a multiple of physical block size (2048 bytes)
[1429280.463194]  sdc: sdc1
[1429280.466753] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI disk

ResultActive=yes

[Allow Eject]
Identity=unix-group:plugdev
Action=org.freedesktop.udisks2.eject-media*
ResultAny=yes
ResultInactive=yes
ResultActive=yes

[Allow Mounting of fstab]
Identity=unix-group:plugdev
Action=org.freedesktop.udisks2.filesystem-fstab*
ResultAny=yes
ResultInactive=yes
ResultActive=yes

Now as a user that's part of the plugdev group I was able to mount the media for what I needed to immediately do.

Trouble is, after unmounting the media in Thunar and then removing the media from the USB socket, it doesn't get removed from Thunar's list of media. Plugging it back in doesn't let me re-mount it until some as-yet undetermined amount of time has passed even though the block device has been created again.

Now this morning I went to use a different external USB device, a hard disk drive with exfat formatting. Dmesg shows it's been recognized:

[1429273.027772] usb 8-1: new high-speed USB device number 9 using ehci-pci
[1429273.185740] usb 8-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0bc2, idProduct=ab28, bcdDevice= 1.00
[1429273.185743] usb 8-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=2, Product=3, SerialNumber=1
[1429273.185745] usb 8-1: Product: BUP BK
[1429273.185746] usb 8-1: Manufacturer: Seagate
[1429273.185748] usb 8-1: SerialNumber: NA9SSJ0A
[1429273.186817] scsi host7: uas
[1429273.189175] scsi 7:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Seagate  BUP BK           0304 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
[1429273.190821] sd 7:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0
[1429273.191496] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Spinning up disk...
[1429274.215711] .......ready
[1429280.361126] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] 9767541167 512-byte logical blocks: (5.00 TB/4.55 TiB)
[1429280.361129] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] 2048-byte physical blocks
[1429280.374922] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
[1429280.374926] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 4f 00 00 00
[1429280.375623] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
[1429280.376394] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Optimal transfer size 33553920 bytes not a multiple of physical block size (2048 bytes)
[1429280.463194]  sdc: sdc1
[1429280.466753] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI disk

and the block devices for sdc and sdc1 exist, but Thunar is still not showing the presence of this device.

I feel like I'm beating my head against a wall, I've installed packages for udisks2 and udiskie and probably a bunch of others, at this point not sure where to do more troubleshooting. I'm trying to make this process gui-usable and semi-automatic because I won't be the only person using this computer, the goal is for anyone in the household to offload digital camera photos to the network share and to an external USB drive for redundant backup, but since it is a laptop and has to be moved regularly I can't really assume it'll remain a static setup.

Suggestions appreciated for where to turn next.

TWX · Hardware & System Configuration

Various lspci outputs:

Straight lspci:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Device 5904 (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 5926 (rev 06)
00:04.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Skylake Processor Thermal Subsystem (rev 03)
00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0 xHCI Controller (rev 21)
00:14.2 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP Thermal subsystem (rev 21)
00:15.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP Serial IO I2C Controller #0 (rev 21)
00:15.1 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP Serial IO I2C Controller #1 (rev 21)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP CSME HECI #1 (rev 21)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 9d10 (rev f1)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #5 (rev f1)
00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #6 (rev f1)
00:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #9 (rev f1)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Device 9d4e (rev 21)
00:1f.2 Memory controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PMC (rev 21)
00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Device 9d71 (rev 21)
00:1f.4 SMBus: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP SMBus (rev 21)
3a:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 32)
3b:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS525A PCI Express Card Reader (rev 01)
3c:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Lite-On Technology Corporation Device 2200 (rev 01)

lspci -vvv:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Device 5904 (rev 03)
	Subsystem: Dell Device 075b
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Capabilities: <access denied>

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 5926 (rev 06) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
	Subsystem: Dell Device 075b
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 285
	Region 0: Memory at db000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
	Region 2: Memory at 90000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
	Region 4: I/O ports at f000 [size=64]
	[virtual] Expansion ROM at 000c0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: i915
	Kernel modules: i915

00:04.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Skylake Processor Thermal Subsystem (rev 03)
	Subsystem: Dell Skylake Processor Thermal Subsystem
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 16
	Region 0: Memory at dc420000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: proc_thermal
	Kernel modules: processor_thermal_device

00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0 xHCI Controller (rev 21) (prog-if 30 [XHCI])
	Subsystem: Dell Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0 xHCI Controller
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 279
	Region 0: Memory at dc410000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd
	Kernel modules: xhci_pci

00:14.2 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP Thermal subsystem (rev 21)
	Subsystem: Dell Sunrise Point-LP Thermal subsystem
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Interrupt: pin C routed to IRQ 18
	Region 0: Memory at dc434000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: intel_pch_thermal
	Kernel modules: intel_pch_thermal

00:15.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP Serial IO I2C Controller #0 (rev 21)
	Subsystem: Dell Sunrise Point-LP Serial IO I2C Controller
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 16
	Region 0: Memory at dc433000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: intel-lpss
	Kernel modules: intel_lpss_pci

00:15.1 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP Serial IO I2C Controller #1 (rev 21)
	Subsystem: Dell Sunrise Point-LP Serial IO I2C Controller
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 17
	Region 0: Memory at dc432000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: intel-lpss
	Kernel modules: intel_lpss_pci

00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP CSME HECI #1 (rev 21)
	Subsystem: Dell Sunrise Point-LP CSME HECI
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 280
	Region 0: Memory at dc431000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: mei_me
	Kernel modules: mei_me

00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 9d10 (rev f1) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 274
	Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=39, sec-latency=0
	I/O behind bridge: 00002000-00002fff
	Memory behind bridge: c4000000-da0fffff
	Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000a0000000-00000000c1ffffff
	Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ <SERR- <PERR-
	BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- NoISA- VGA- MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
		PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn-
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: pcieport
	Kernel modules: shpchp

00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #5 (rev f1) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 275
	Bus: primary=00, secondary=3a, subordinate=3a, sec-latency=0
	I/O behind bridge: 0000f000-00000fff
	Memory behind bridge: dc000000-dc1fffff
	Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000fff00000-00000000000fffff
	Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ <SERR- <PERR-
	BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- NoISA- VGA- MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
		PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn-
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: pcieport
	Kernel modules: shpchp

00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #6 (rev f1) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 276
	Bus: primary=00, secondary=3b, subordinate=3b, sec-latency=0
	I/O behind bridge: 0000f000-00000fff
	Memory behind bridge: dc300000-dc3fffff
	Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000fff00000-00000000000fffff
	Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ <SERR- <PERR-
	BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- NoISA- VGA- MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
		PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn-
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: pcieport
	Kernel modules: shpchp

00:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #9 (rev f1) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 277
	Bus: primary=00, secondary=3c, subordinate=3c, sec-latency=0
	I/O behind bridge: 0000f000-00000fff
	Memory behind bridge: dc200000-dc2fffff
	Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000fff00000-00000000000fffff
	Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ <SERR- <PERR-
	BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- NoISA- VGA- MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
		PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn-
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: pcieport
	Kernel modules: shpchp

00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Device 9d4e (rev 21)
	Subsystem: Dell Device 075b
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0

00:1f.2 Memory controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PMC (rev 21)
	Subsystem: Dell Sunrise Point-LP PMC
	Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Region 0: Memory at dc42c000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=16K]

00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Device 9d71 (rev 21) (prog-if 80)
	Subsystem: Dell Device 075b
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 32
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 282
	Region 0: Memory at dc428000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
	Region 4: Memory at dc400000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
	Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel, snd_soc_skl

00:1f.4 SMBus: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP SMBus (rev 21)
	Subsystem: Dell Sunrise Point-LP SMBus
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
	Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 16
	Region 0: Memory at dc430000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
	Region 4: I/O ports at f040 [size=32]
	Kernel driver in use: i801_smbus
	Kernel modules: i2c_i801

3a:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 32)
	Subsystem: Bigfoot Networks, Inc. QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 286
	Region 0: Memory at dc000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2M]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: ath10k_pci
	Kernel modules: ath10k_pci

3b:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS525A PCI Express Card Reader (rev 01)
	Subsystem: Dell RTS525A PCI Express Card Reader
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 278
	Region 1: Memory at dc300000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: rtsx_pci
	Kernel modules: rtsx_pci

3c:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Lite-On Technology Corporation Device 2200 (rev 01) (prog-if 02 [NVM Express])
	Subsystem: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Device 1093
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
	Latency: 0
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 16
	NUMA node: 0
	Region 0: Memory at dc200000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: nvme
	Kernel modules: nvme

lspci -x:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Device 5904 (rev 03)
00: 86 80 04 59 06 00 90 00 03 00 00 06 00 00 00 00
10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 28 10 5b 07
30: 00 00 00 00 e0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 5926 (rev 06)
00: 86 80 26 59 07 04 10 00 06 00 00 03 00 00 00 00
10: 04 00 00 db 00 00 00 00 0c 00 00 90 00 00 00 00
20: 01 f0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 28 10 5b 07
30: 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0b 01 00 00

00:04.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Skylake Processor Thermal Subsystem (rev 03)
00: 86 80 03 19 02 00 90 00 03 00 80 11 00 00 00 00
10: 04 00 42 dc 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 28 10 5b 07
30: 00 00 00 00 90 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0b 01 00 00

00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0 xHCI Controller (rev 21)
00: 86 80 2f 9d 06 04 90 02 21 30 03 0c 00 00 80 00
10: 04 00 41 dc 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 28 10 5b 07
30: 00 00 00 00 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0b 01 00 00

00:14.2 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP Thermal subsystem (rev 21)
00: 86 80 31 9d 02 00 10 00 21 00 80 11 00 00 00 00
10: 04 40 43 dc 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 28 10 5b 07
30: 00 00 00 00 50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0b 03 00 00

00:15.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP Serial IO I2C Controller #0 (rev 21)
00: 86 80 60 9d 06 00 10 00 21 00 80 11 00 00 80 00
10: 04 30 43 dc 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 28 10 5b 07
30: 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0b 01 00 00

00:15.1 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP Serial IO I2C Controller #1 (rev 21)
00: 86 80 61 9d 06 00 10 00 21 00 80 11 00 00 80 00
10: 04 20 43 dc 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 28 10 5b 07
30: 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0a 02 00 00

00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP CSME HECI #1 (rev 21)
00: 86 80 3a 9d 06 04 10 00 21 00 80 07 00 00 80 00
10: 04 10 43 dc 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 28 10 5b 07
30: 00 00 00 00 50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0b 01 00 00

00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 9d10 (rev f1)
00: 86 80 10 9d 07 04 10 00 f1 00 04 06 00 00 81 00
10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 39 00 20 20 00 20
20: 00 c4 00 da 01 a0 f1 c1 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30: 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0b 01 10 00

00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #5 (rev f1)
00: 86 80 14 9d 07 04 10 00 f1 00 04 06 00 00 81 00
10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 3a 3a 00 f0 00 00 20
20: 00 dc 10 dc f1 ff 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30: 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0b 01 10 00

00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #6 (rev f1)
00: 86 80 15 9d 07 04 10 00 f1 00 04 06 00 00 81 00
10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 3b 3b 00 f0 00 00 20
20: 30 dc 30 dc f1 ff 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30: 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0a 02 10 00

00:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #9 (rev f1)
00: 86 80 18 9d 07 04 10 00 f1 00 04 06 00 00 81 00
10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 3c 3c 00 f0 00 00 20
20: 20 dc 20 dc f1 ff 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
30: 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0b 01 10 00

00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Device 9d4e (rev 21)
00: 86 80 4e 9d 07 00 00 02 21 00 01 06 00 00 80 00
10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 28 10 5b 07
30: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

00:1f.2 Memory controller: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PMC (rev 21)
00: 86 80 21 9d 00 00 00 00 21 00 80 05 00 00 80 00
10: 00 c0 42 dc 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 28 10 5b 07
30: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Device 9d71 (rev 21)
00: 86 80 71 9d 06 04 10 00 21 80 03 04 00 20 00 00
10: 04 80 42 dc 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: 04 00 40 dc 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 28 10 5b 07
30: 00 00 00 00 50 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0b 01 00 00

00:1f.4 SMBus: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP SMBus (rev 21)
00: 86 80 23 9d 03 00 80 02 21 00 05 0c 00 00 00 00
10: 04 00 43 dc 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: 41 f0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 28 10 5b 07
30: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0b 01 00 00

3a:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 32)
00: 8c 16 3e 00 06 04 10 00 32 00 80 02 00 00 00 00
10: 04 00 00 dc 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 56 1a 35 15
30: 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0b 01 00 00

3b:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS525A PCI Express Card Reader (rev 01)
00: ec 10 5a 52 06 04 10 00 01 00 00 ff 00 00 00 00
10: 00 00 00 00 00 00 30 dc 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 28 10 5b 07
30: 00 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0a 01 00 00

3c:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Lite-On Technology Corporation Device 2200 (rev 01)
00: a4 14 00 22 06 04 10 00 01 02 08 01 00 00 00 00
10: 04 00 20 dc 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 4b 1b 93 10
30: 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0b 01 00 00

I'll give your efforts a check once I have a chance. The other day when it was fighting me I had a separate battle against my ISP, which decided to down my neighborhood for about four hours in the middle of the day. I'll try to be a little more thorough on what does and doesn't work this time around.

TWX · Hardware & System Configuration

I had no good fortune with USB flash boot with either Devuan or with Debian. Devuan would fail to find the filesystem and Debian would behave unpredictably, even freezing.

I had taken the one you recommended and burned to DVD and tried with an external USB DVD, no dice. Did the same for a Debian install and still had issues, it supposedly had the nonfree repository for the various wifi and network stuff but wouldn't work right, ended up having to copy that stuff to a USB flash drive and then insert that when it prompted for that sort of thing.

This is the first UEFI computer I've worked with. Can't say I care for what they've come up with.

For now I decided to basically do this:

http://ewen.mcneill.gen.nz/blog/entry/2 … dual-boot/

I shrunk the Windows partition down to 100GB, then created boot, swap, and a root partition for Debian Stretch, and for the moment left the better part of 100GB unallocated so that later I can revisit Devuan when ascii is further along.

I did not have to install gnome in order to get wifi working, and I followed some other instructions for pruning-back on systemd with replacing it with sysvinit. So far everything seems to be doing well, video came in at the ultra-high 3200x1800 resolution. Touchscreen sort of works, I'd have done some things differently out of the box, will see if they can be tweaked. Once the kernel module was loaded at-install I've had no trouble with wireless. Sound works, even got Bluetooth going for the mouse (never tried that in Linux before, mouse was being used on a Chromebook with crouton, with ChromeOS handling it).

I'll continue to keep-up on the developments with Devuan though, I'd like to make a go of it again.

Is there anything that would be handy for me to dig into and post here about the hardware that might be useful to someone working on the project?

TWX · Hardware & System Configuration

Well, once I got fsmithred's devuan_jessie_amd64_bpo_desktop-live-20170522_1240.iso onto a USB flash and tried to boot it, it ended up with a problem where it couldn't mount /dev/sda1 as the live filesystem and dropped me to an initramfs prompt. Despite this there were entries for /dev/sda and /dev/sda1, and no other sd* in /dev. No obvious bootloader commands to fix either. Tried both legacy and UEFI.

It's 1:40am, going to stop for tonight and pick back up again tomorrow.

EDIT: heh. Browser was sitting with an error message this morning from when I attempted to post the above last night. Guess my internet connection is flaky on top of everything else.

The Mac has wget, but I had remoted into another computer with a reliable connection and downloaded the file there, and did md5 checks on both the mac and that remote computer and the sums matched, so what I got is what was on the server.

Sleeping on the problem I'm not sure why the internal SSD wasn't /dev/sda. I've configured the BIOS to set it to AHCI and secureboot should be off. Will have to go in and check now that I've had some sleep.

TWX · Hardware & System Configuration

for some reason the ibiblio download likes to fail. I've had to resume it in the browser on the Mac I'm using for the job a couple of times now. Will have to see if it's valid on download or if I need to try another way.

TWX · Hardware & System Configuration

It goes sloooooowly.

Decided not to permanently burn bridges. This means following the initial stages of this guy's experiences:

http://ewen.mcneill.gen.nz/blog/entry/2 … dual-boot/

at least as far as basically creating restore media for Windows 10. I'm still in that process as all of the updates (including BIOS updates that apparently are needed and are most easily delivered via Dell's Windows software) are taking a long time. It doesn't help that Microsoft has increasingly split their UI controls between the old control panel and the new Metro stuff; I've administered my share of Windows over the years but it's becoming increasingly fragmented as they don't wholly jump-ship for the new but remove some features from the old to the new.

To get back on-topic I'm downloading fsmithred's devuan_jessie_amd64_bpo_desktop-live-20170522_1240.iso to give that a shot to see how the hardware support is. My hope is that basically everything just works. We'll see.

TWX · Hardware & System Configuration

Well after a delay I finally got the computer about three hours ago. Going to start. Now the fun part, clearing all of the USB flash I can find. Among my assets is a Mac with a DVD burner, and I have an external USB DVD drive to use on the 9360 if I need it. Might end up putting that into service, we'll see if it works better dealing with the .iso files that way or not. It's been a very long time and last Linux install was a lite-install from optical with a net install.

Wish me luck.

TWX · Hardware & System Configuration

Suppose I should that over the years I did run Debian unstable, and then when they started doing a testing version, ran that instead of sid, occasionally choosing to stay on testing as it became stable, sometimes jumping to the next testing as the existing testing version became the latest stable. Not too concerned if I end up on a testing or even unstable release.

TWX · Hardware & System Configuration

Thanks. Will consider partitioning for some experimenting. When I was younger I was very inclined to play (installing Redhat 5.1 with the "redneck" language choice comes to mind) but in the last decade I've been less inclined to experiment and more inclined for the computer to simply work properly.

I expect to be picking up the computer tomorrow if time permits. I might initially start-out by actually prepping the factory Windows load, creating recovery media, and doing BIOS and other firmware updates as per the first part of this guide:

http://ewen.mcneill.gen.nz/blog/entry/2 … dual-boot/

but if I intend to have Windows available it'll probably be on a virtual-machine rather than booting into Windows natively.

It's kind of funny, I'd been almost ready to jump-ship to Apple until their newest Macbook Pro models force you to choose to either have enough ports to be useful or else to have a physical escape key. Thanks Apple, thanks a lot.

TWX · Hardware & System Configuration

Well, as dissatisfied as I am with Debian's adoption of systemd, I'm admittedly not especially dogmatic, and it looks like there are means to strip-out and revert to SysV init on mainline Debian if I have to install-and-then-remove. I'd like to use Devuan first, or at least to give it a try. What I wasn't sure of is how much of Debian stretch's development has been looked-into for use for Devuan ascii (ie the Ubuntu model if I understand it accurately), or if ascii is basically substantially based only on Devuan jessie.

We'll see. If Devuan isn't ready for this hardware yet then I may stick with Debian or Ubuntu, we'll see. Figured I'd give it a try first.

That was the Debian document that I found and was going to see if I could adapt-to for Devuan purposes.

And this:

http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.p … an_Stretch

was the document I found on removing, or at least paring-back on systemd, in case I can't get Devuan to work at this time and have to go with straight Debian.

TWX · Hardware & System Configuration

Ladies and Gents,

I'm strongly leaning toward a new laptop as Costco has a deal on a fully-loaded Dell XPS 13 9360. This model could also be ordered directly from Dell as the "Developer Edition" with Ubuntu 16.04LTS. I've found directions for putting Debian 9 "stretch", which specifically state that Debian 8 jessie won't work on this computer. I assume that Devuan 1 jessie will have similar issues to the Debian release it's forked from.

Has anyone played with Devuan ascii or ceres on this model? I've started using Devuan jessie on a few older computers but not on anything with new chipsets like this.

Thanks.

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