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#1 Re: Installation » Installation keeping old /home » 2019-06-12 09:13:52

Andre4freedom wrote:

3. Keep a record of the UID & GID of your users (grep [username] /etc/passwd)

Just backup /etc too.
And look which software puts stuff in /var that's nice to keep too: Bitlbee, crontabs, mail, tor hidden services directories, ... come to my mind.
If in doubt, backup /var completely.

Maybe we should start a wiki page about what may be worth being backup'd even if someone insists in not having a full backup.

I'm a fan of periodically rsync-ing complete systems to a backup storage.
Not a very sophisticated solution but it already saved my day often enough.

#2 Re: Devuan » UsrMerge on Devuan? » 2019-06-12 07:48:15

golinux wrote:

Yeah . . . it's another clusterf*** from the folks.


Let's hide the whole system in /.../*!
That's what the enduser really wants!
I do know that!
Trust me...

#3 Re: Installation » Installation keeping old /home » 2019-06-11 06:02:03

Copper36 wrote:

Except backing everything up, are there any recommendations (general and Devuan/Refracta-specific)?

The alternative to having a backup is to have multiple backups.

#4 Re: News & Announcements » We're now 800 strong here! » 2019-05-29 17:12:20

Apropos counter(s):

Don't fear the popcon!



Please install and activate popularity-contest.

#5 Re: Other Issues » How i can fix ? » 2019-05-23 04:21:45

golinux wrote:
yeti wrote:
Dutch_Master wrote:

I'd suggest to re-install Devuan with separate partitions for /etc, /var, /usr and /home.


Maybe that would work on his Funtoo . . .  wink

Fun for the whole family!

#6 Re: Other Issues » How i can fix ? » 2019-05-23 03:59:29

Dutch_Master wrote:

I'd suggest to re-install Devuan with separate partitions for /etc, /var, /usr and /home.


#7 Re: News & Announcements » Devuan 2.0 ASCII Stable » 2019-05-08 13:05:36

alupoj wrote:

Why not to add a Libre (deblobed) kernel directly to Devuan distro? It would make Devuan even more free than it already is and may be even more free than Debian 5 Lenny was.

I want to keep the freedom to use my old hardware which may need some blobs.
The environment wants to keep the freedom that not every notebook needing some blob is turned into useless toxic trash because extremists declare them as inacceptable.

Let's keep old hardware busy by allowing blobs and let's look at the blob aspect when buying new stuff.

#8 Re: Other Issues » Is the debian/devuan merge working right? » 2019-04-23 07:07:40

guioQ wrote:

I'm having the same issue.

I just upgraded an ASCII install with XFCE to Beowulf and that was not really funny due to this hiccup... :-/
At lest reading that it is not PEBCAK is a bit of a relief.

#9 Re: Other Issues » Ncurses » 2019-03-30 23:21:27

~/tmp4c$ cat /etc/devuan_version 
~/tmp4c$ ls -l
total 4
-rw-r--r-- 1 yeti yeti 1293 Mar 30 23:05 main.c
~/tmp4c$ gcc main.c -lncurses -o main
~/tmp4c$ ls -l
total 16
-rwxr-xr-x 1 yeti yeti 9216 Mar 30 23:14 main
-rw-r--r-- 1 yeti yeti 1293 Mar 30 23:05 main.c

It compiles without errors.
Started with

~/tmp4c$ ./main 

it runs and I can move the P with the arrow keys.

#10 Re: Other Issues » Ncurses » 2019-03-30 22:42:50

Where is the code?

#11 Re: Devuan » Using Debian packages » 2019-03-29 12:51:21

Grab the deb-sources and rebuild them on Devuan.

#12 Re: Off-topic » Life after Firefox » 2019-03-25 22:05:24

I haven't looked longer at Midori. A while ago it only could do http/https and no other protocol. And with today's quick and dirty build, I got lost in GitLab because some stuff in GitLab's menu refused to cooperate with Midori.

Midori will not be my future browser.
Pasta and Ramen!

#13 Re: Off-topic » Life after Firefox » 2019-03-25 19:54:21

This one?


Debian/Sid has it and a quick and dirty rebuild on ASCII is doable.

#14 Re: Devuan » Unpackaged (hardcoded) kernel and bootloader on armhf » 2019-03-17 13:42:59

The kernels are not blocked by Devuan and so they show up in Devuan's merged package index. I have neither added apt pinning commands nor sources.list lines directly pointing to Debian repositories.

It started as experiment and I expected to have to redo a clean Devuan install afterwards, but it just works and so I kept it.

#15 Re: Devuan » Unpackaged (hardcoded) kernel and bootloader on armhf » 2019-03-17 11:05:06

This definitely needs a solution suitable to endusers.

...and for lazy yetis... ;-)

I got packaged kernels on Cubietrucks by installing Debian9 first and uptrans(?)grading it to Devuan2. It would be nice not having to do it this way again. And I expect Debian and Devuan to diverge, so maybe this will not stay an option forever.

And please don't tell this to my Devuan-ish RPIs... I haven't looked at this problem for them yet.

Maybe someone already has done this?

Please chisel it into wikistone...

#16 Re: Hardware & System Configuration » [solved] sysvinit: Most simple way to start command as user » 2019-03-09 15:16:49

Look for @reboot in man 5 crontab.
You can hook up auto-start jobs there without ever needing root's superpowers.
So it's somehow simpler than with sysvinit.

If you want to start a job logging to stdout or somewhen needing input (I use that for e.g. syncthing), start screen with @reboot and wire the desired job(s) into ~/.screenrc (similarly with tmux).

#17 Re: Devuan » Is some part of systemd running in ascii 2 ? » 2019-02-13 17:46:52

Maybe the last unavoidable systemd packages can be renamed to fake-$originalname_*.deb to make clear that they are harmless? Via provides $originalname dependices could be satisfied.

Would that possibly reduce the iterating questions about systemd pieces still present in Devuan?

#18 Re: Off-topic » Please suggest a completely open source ARM board with Cortex A53/A7 » 2019-02-11 18:32:26

alupoj wrote:

Can I then chroot from LibreCMC into another distro like Debian v8/v9 located on a USB flash drive?
Only text mode is needed, NO graphical desktop is needed.

I don't know LibreCMC but it smells a bit like OpenWrt.
Search for "kexec" which would even allow booting a different kernel from an already running one:

#19 Re: Off-topic » Please suggest a completely open source ARM board with Cortex A53/A7 » 2019-02-09 15:11:12

alupoj wrote:

Please suggest a netbook (tablet with a keyboard)

Oh yes!
An ARMish tablet/netbook is missing in my collection too!
I'd prefer long runtime per charge over computing power.

I confess not having tried Devuan on my Nokia N900 yet and am dreaming of at least 5"..7" because the N900 (3½") is far too tiny for these old eyes.

#21 Re: Off-topic » Devuan Based Home to Web Server using VPN/VPS Networking, Please Help » 2019-02-08 09:47:26

IK7 wrote:

so eventually I'd like to write a guide of sorts for people also afflicted with terminal network-itis who have similar fun little goals to achieve.

       / )
___   / /__
   |-'    _)
   |      _)
   |      _)

Maybe start developing this HowTo in the wiki?
Half baken stuff discussed in a forum sticks around forever. Stuff in a wiki can be boiled down to the essence on the main page while being discussed on the related discussion page and if neccesary can be easier taken over by new leaders than forum articles.

#22 Re: News & Announcements » [package bump request] Youtube-dl » 2019-01-13 17:46:19

We aren't discussing how to package the newest KiCad nightly!
Come on... one script only... it's a nice 1st contact to chiselling the first own deb!

#23 Re: News & Announcements » [package bump request] Youtube-dl » 2019-01-13 08:55:21

Dutch_Master wrote:

@golinux: No offense, but I'm not cool with your 'compile it yourself' advise every time someone asks for the inclusion of a new or updated package. Yes, I could compile stuff myself, but then I'd be installing s/w outside of the apt tool chain, so what's the use of that?

You can bake your own deb packages. So who is stopping you from packaging the stuff you compiled yourself? And with stuff that already is available in older versions it even is easier. You have a working example.

~$ apt-cache policy youtube-dl
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 2017.05.18.1-1
  Version table:
     2018.11.07-1~bpo9+1 100
        100 ascii-backports/main armhf Packages
     2017.05.18.1-1 500
        500 ascii/main armhf Packages

Having two examples patching in the diff to youtube-dl's 2019 version really shouldn't need magic!

#24 Re: Other Issues » Linux systemd Affected by Memory Corruption Vulnerabilities » 2019-01-11 15:08:15

I really hope for Systemd based OSes to evolve into their own direction, so that in a while (months sure will not be enough) they will be an own "digitope" or brand like e.g. Android or ChromeOS is today.

We should applaud on every add-on to Systemd that makes it more incompatible with classic Unixens to support this divergence!
Let them go!
In peace...
The faster, the better!
The farther away, the better!

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