19:00:42 <djph> yay, everything came up and works on Chimaera

04:47:00 <unixbsd> hello

04:47:10 <unixbsd> I tested this kernel on devuan: https://gitlab.com/openbsd98324/linux-archlinux-20210601

04:47:20 <unixbsd> it works very well with graphics on the ascii devuan.

04:47:36 <unixbsd> what is the reason actually? it does have a better drivers for AMD Ryzen?

04:47:53 <unixbsd> opengl works very well with this https://gitlab.com/openbsd98324/linux-archlinux-20210601

04:50:43 <Walex2> unixbsd: what are you asking?

04:51:07 <unixbsd> why the kernel/modules archlinux works bettter on devuan that default one?

04:52:42 <Walex2> unixbsd: that is a weird question. They all use the same kernel with slightly different patches. But probably you are really asking about the difference between "stable" and "rolling" distributions, even if perhaps you don't realize it.

04:57:12 <unixbsd> it seems that they have got a good drivers for amd ryzen, no idea what they managed to do with their graphic/modules

04:58:11 <mason> unixbsd: Is it a newer kernel? Support for things generally improves over time. If you've a newer kernel with better support for things, then there's your answer.

04:58:48 <mason> Alternately, if there's some preferable config they've used, that could be the answer too. De*an gives us decent tools for running custom kernels.

05:00:42 <unixbsd> they use 5.Â0.15

05:01:06 <unixbsd> the 5.10.15 that they use is nothing exceptional, but it is well compiled for games

05:01:54 <mason> Beowulf uses 4.19.181-1 and ASCII is older still, so there's your answer.

05:02:43 <unixbsd> do we work on backport for devuan?

05:03:05 <unixbsd> i.e. do we have a backport for modern kernels?

05:04:00 <unixbsd> even, if we have one, it seems that they do a better job in compiling the kernel for optimized graphic cards. modules is way larger though

05:04:10 <mason> unixbsd: Yeah, there's backports. beowulf-backports seems to have 5.10.24-1~bpo10+1 right now

05:04:11 <hagbard> If something new and shiny is needed, the vanilla kernel is also an option. Building a debian package out of it is a one-liner.

05:04:39 <mason> What he said. The kernel has learned to build Debian packages.

05:04:47 <unixbsd> hagbard: not so sure if vanilla is key, it is more an art to get all working graphic cards nowadays.

05:19:20 <Walex2> unixbsd: note also that GPU support depends *also* on how new the Xorg drivers are too.

05:19:58 <unixbsd> ah man, thank you, this is too true.

05:20:23 <unixbsd> actually, when I use their kernel on our devuan, games like ps2 work better (so same xorg).

05:25:07 <mason> unixbsd: diff the config, no sense in it remaining a mystery

05:29:43 <unixbsd> I havent found their config file halas :(

05:29:58 <unixbsd> ...yet.

05:30:03 <mason> unixbsd: Do they embed them?

05:30:26 <unixbsd> I will look or search for it

05:30:28 <mason> unixbsd: Do you have a /proc/config*

05:30:29 <mason> ?

05:30:56 <unixbsd> nope :(

05:30:59 <hagbard> otherwise they are somewhere in /boot

05:31:14 <mason> If they don't ship one in /boot *or* embed one, that'd be unfortunate.

05:31:26 <unixbsd> they didnt give config into /boot

05:32:00 <unixbsd> not to give config is like kernel being a linux closed source ;)