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Re: AI and programming.

dummy@example.com (Calamity) — Mon, 14 Sep 2026 15:20:20 +0000

Nice article:
http://toastytech.com/about/ai.html

Re: AI and programming.

dummy@example.com (golinux) — Sun, 30 Aug 2026 14:58:41 +0000

We are definitely lost down the rabbit hole . . .

Re: AI and programming.

dummy@example.com (chomwitt) — Sun, 30 Aug 2026 14:17:28 +0000

Various views on the LLM usage issue on libre software projects

Debian : @Debian's resolution on LLM usage and @discussions on the debian vote emailing list.
FSF@
GCC @ GNU Compiler Collection - AI Policy
LinuxKernel@ Linus Torvald's opinion on kernel emailing list , @ Coding assistant's guide.
LibreOffice @ Libreoffice / 03-09-26 / Yes, no AI is now a feature
Gentoo @ (2024) Project:Council/AI policy
Artix @ (04-06-26) Forum discussion
antiX@ (31-05-26) antiX project AI policy. AntiX is using LLM to speed localization that increasing it's visibility to other languages.
Hyperbola (20-10-25) Hyperbola, a renewal of our rejection towards generative algorithms, neuronal networking and the projections done
GUIX @ (28-07-26) Submitting GCD 009: "Allowing LLM-assisted and LLM-generated contribution
Rsync @ rsync and outrage by Andrew Tridgell Jun 3, 2026 (a retired famous hacker cant find humans to help..)
Firefox @ (09-2026) Latest changes in Firefox AI intergration
GIMP@ (11-03-26) LLM Co-coding and AI Slop: differences explained
NetBSD @ NetBSD Commit Guidelines
FreeBSD@ FreeBSD 2025 status report.
Codeberg @ (230726) Protecting our FLOSS commons from LLMs
SourceHut @August 27, 2026 by Drew DeVault's post on SourceHut policy and it's community discussion on the matter
HaikuOS : @ (250526) On LLM policy of HaikuPorts
SFC @ SFC's Recommendations When Using LLM-backed Generative AI Systems for FOSS Contributions.

Re: AI and programming.

dummy@example.com (Xenguy) — Sat, 29 Aug 2026 01:34:59 +0000

Paragraphs are a thing; please use them.

Re: AI and programming.

dummy@example.com (bai4Iej2need) — Fri, 28 Aug 2026 17:13:44 +0000

https://youtu.be/QJUBKYuVXUc?t=1925

AI gives you a statistical view of a program of "how it could look like, but no function guaranteed."
You have to give a software functional specification so detailed, that you have the job done yourself.
Do A first
Do B second
use the result string for Processing in C
output C Result to a device / file / stream what ever you need.

And then you have anonymously transferred all your know how to an mulltibillion corp which is eating it not even thankfully.

I tested this on several occasions with very small snippets of specifications.

I will not give them my money and my know how.

Re: AI and programming.

dummy@example.com (SS) — Mon, 17 Aug 2026 17:06:30 +0000

Fascinating topic. I hated the way Microsoft was getting too overwhelming with all the features, forced AI and updates etc on my laptops. Then windows 10 was no longer supported. I would have had to landfill 2 laptops (one with 4k screen and 16gm ram,). I am non technical and busy with my own commitments but curious about this thing called Linux. I asked AI and Gemini suggested Ubuntu , Linux Mint and for my very old 2008 laptop (4gb ram but SSD drive), Devuan. I had never heard of these. It explained Devuan is a fork of Debian created by VUAs. It will ruin flawlessly etc. I took the plunge, not knowing what system d was or anything really and realised Devuan needed a load of config . Using AI , forum help and perseverance I got the old 2008 laptop set up in a few days and now implementing on the 4k laptop. The topic of "init freedom" kept coming up. I had to figure out what that meant. At the end of it I realise that building one thing to do something properly and connect to next thing is brilliant, instead of building a complicated mess with no transparency. I apply that philosophy where I can in every day work now eg the way I will construct a spreadsheet or think about solutions. Without AI making me aware of Devuan's existence, and learning how to do/ not to do things, I wouldn't have got here. But then with AI it's easy to get lazy or degrade quality of output or principles. My wife played around on my laptop and found it so transparent, and thought it was so cool that devuan was founded on values that stand against corporate greed, and a reminder of human ability to be more conscious in choices instead of illusionary freedom, she is switching to Devuan on her laptop. Maybe I am not a desired user of Devuan (not sure), given my use of AI in the story, but the principles behind the distro are what makes me use Devuan as my only operating system of choice (plus it runs absolutely brilliantly. I haven't had a single crash, screen freeze or forced restart. Laptops are running blazing fast. Bluetooth is flawless. WiFi connection is instant and way better. Performance is amazing, wireless printer connects and locks in, no cut out. Nothing undesired, nothing forced on my laptop). The excellence should never be compromised.

Re: AI and programming.

dummy@example.com (blackhole) — Mon, 17 Aug 2026 17:01:56 +0000

RedGreen925, I mentioned the plagiarism aspect in another recent post and in the past in other posts here and on other sites.

The likes of Microsoft, the owner of github, are well placed to use the "tools" they are promoting to "steal" code from the massive array of private and public github repositories it hosts. This is in fact a means for proprietary vendors to effectively circumvent GPL licensing.

Re: AI and programming.

dummy@example.com (sgage) — Mon, 17 Aug 2026 15:58:21 +0000

The notion that a given technology is neutral, just a tool that can be used for good or ill, is not borne out by fact or history. Technologies have their own imperatives, their own tendencies, and 'unintended consequences'. This goes 100-fold for so-called 'AI'. Look at what it has already done...

Re: AI and programming.

dummy@example.com (RedGreen925) — Mon, 17 Aug 2026 15:36:01 +0000

Yet again I see no one mention my biggest problem with the garbage AI. If you use it you are plainly and simply a thief. In the Free Software community we support copyright and those models were trained on stolen code from the entire internet. Now if a company trains an AI on its own self produced or licensed for that purpose code it is a different thing. Though they have lost any claim to copyright when doing so then using it as all code produced by a machine is not allowed that protection. As far as I am concerned all those AI companies should have their executives sitting in jail and all their money taken as that seems to be the solution when an individual does it and infringes copyright. As they claim that corporations are people for their purposes when it suits them and their justification of the parasite behaviour of their actions and its harms towards society.

Re: AI and programming.

dummy@example.com (Altoid) — Mon, 17 Aug 2026 11:05:36 +0000

Hello:

blackhole wrote:

... many of you fail to realise is that it's all for profit.
... exists to make money for shareholders.
... while the billionaires laugh at the real "tools" who bought into it all.

Have a read:
https://www.theregister.com/columnists/ … ay/5288275

Best,

Re: AI and programming.

dummy@example.com (blackhole) — Mon, 17 Aug 2026 07:51:40 +0000

What many of you fail to realise is that it's all for profit. "AI" is just the last product from Big Tech, it is being heavily invested in, it's a bubble and it will burst at some point. It exists to make money for shareholders. But the immense amount of hype surrounding it, means that your boss is slowly becoming convinced that it can do your job. It probably can't - or maybe it can do aspects of your job well enough, that you can be laid off. You can then run along and babble about "AI" geing a great "tool", while the billionaires laugh at the real "tools" who bought into it all.

As Altoid said, it will run amok, because as with everything else, the risks are all acceptable, and the "running amok" is actually part of the plan - we're now at the stage where the big players want it regulated, so that they can maintain ownership, control and exclude competition. To be seen as viable "AI", and boost share value, LLMs are going to need be "headline news".

Re: AI and programming.

dummy@example.com (greenjeans) — Mon, 17 Aug 2026 02:36:38 +0000

Oh yeah!

Re: AI and programming.

dummy@example.com (IamThatIam) — Mon, 17 Aug 2026 02:17:17 +0000

I fully disagree with golinux on this. I think that if you are using the AI as a tool and are acting as a software designer or architect and keeping a schematic with blueprints of your software, intelligent questions for the AI, and with a specific design, and also keeping records of what you are doing then there is nothing wrong with using AI to make coding more efficient. I think alot of people will come up with niche clique ideologies to be an elitist and will turn everything to its extreme and try to say if it is bad for AI to be in control of all of our sotware then AI must be bad in all situations and circumstances and for any purpose. I disagree. I think this is just being an extremist and truly a software fascist as well as an elitist. There is nobody stopping people from deciding not to use AI. It isn't being forced upon you necessarily. There is nobody saying that using AI means letting it do everything and not having an intelligent designer in control of the AI. I think when we start making everything into its extreme polarity like that then we fall victim to the ideologies of the brown shirts in Germany way back when. People need to think for themselves and use common sense, and stop letting other people tell you how to think. It does not take a rocket scientist to know that using AI makes coding more efficient and faster and it also does not take a rocket scientist to know that you cannot let AI be in control when coding nor can you use AI and code without being the intelligent designer who keeps records, backup copies, and uses a schematic with intelligent prompts and questions. Everything must be intelligently thought out first and put on paper before you start using AI to code otherwise it is going to do things you do not want it to do. Also I would not use cloud based AI if I could help it. Claude and Grok are not so bad but localized is always better because you can control it and tell it what to do. I would say Enoch is a good way to go. Be the programmer and the designer and not the one just using someone else's service.

Re: AI and programming.

dummy@example.com (golinux) — Mon, 17 Aug 2026 02:06:14 +0000

The Dali Lama is right. All of our "suffering" is self-inflicted. Being able to maintain emotional "neutrality" toward whatever comes your way is quite liberating!

Re: AI and programming.

dummy@example.com (greenjeans) — Mon, 17 Aug 2026 01:39:09 +0000

The mind is the source of all our woes . . .

And the source of all our joys. I choose joy.

“We create most of our suffering, so it should be logical that we also have the ability to create more joy. It simply depends on the attitudes, the perspectives, and the reactions we bring to situations and to our relationships with other people. When it comes to personal happiness there is a lot that we as individuals can do.”

~His holiness the Dalai Lama the 14th in the Book of Joy